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Sommerswerd
Mar 21, 2010, 03:30 AM
One of the first orders of business is to decide what our AMAZON acronym will mean.

You will notice that the we have always used the word "AMAZON" to describe ourselves and that "AMAZON" has always been in caps.

The plural of "AMAZON" has always been AMAZONs with a lowercase "s" and we have not been referring to ourselves as "Amazonians."

This is why..."AMAZON" is an acronym... A.M.A.Z.O.N., ... and now we need to decide what each letter in it means... :confused:

It is a mystery that has elluded our wisest soothsayers and preistesses for generations, but now we will unravel this mystery together...:eek:

So reply to this thread with your suggestions/ideas/comments, and as with all things, we AMAZONs will decide with a vote, once all AMAZONs with ideas have come forward with their choices.:D

Tinkerbell
Mar 21, 2010, 03:53 AM
Amazing Mermaids After Zoink's Oval Nation

This marks the moment in time the nation of the AMAZON started. King Zoink has stolen the treasure of the happy nation of the Mermaids. At that moment, the Mermaids realized they needed to stay cheerfull, but also get organized in a nation and chase King Zoink back to his Oval Nation.

Sommerswerd
Mar 21, 2010, 05:02 AM
Awesome Maidens&Men Against Zeus's Other Nations

nabaxo
Mar 21, 2010, 08:23 AM
I think it should be a recursive acronym, for extra nerd-cred. ;D

Amazonian's Mighty And Z*** Order of N***

Yeah, the *** denote where I couldn't come up with something, feel free to suggest. ;)

remake20
Mar 21, 2010, 10:44 AM
So were gonna be like SANCTA? I don't think it should stand for anything. It's just the way were are, mysterious and unknown.

Calis
Mar 21, 2010, 11:35 AM
I agree with r20.

Especially when the acronym already exists and THEN you try to find the meaning. This gives rather strange result IMO.

Sommerswerd
Mar 21, 2010, 06:40 PM
Another idea:

A - Associated / Allied
M - Magnificent / Masterful / Mighty / Malevolent
A - Accolytes / Apostles -of the
Z - Zenobian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenobia)
O - Omniscient / Omnipotent / Omnipresent
N - Nation

Zenobia was a Warrior Queen:queen:, who conquered Egypt and fought the Roman Empire.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Herbert_Schmalz-Zenobia.jpg

Zenobia famously wore golden chains in Aurelian's military triumph parade in Rome. She was eventually given an estate and became a prominent Roman matron. Notice the Wrist Bracers (like Diana) and the Golden Chain in the picture above.

IMHO this is a ringer! Perhaps the mystery has finally been unraveled. The Golden Ropes that Diana gives us at our induction cerominies are actually a symbol of the golden chains worn by our Matron Saint, the Warrior Queen Zenobia.

We can choose which word to use for the other letters (I listed a few possibilities). What do AMAZONs think about this?:D

SilentConfusion
Mar 21, 2010, 07:35 PM
I like Sommerswerd's first concept with the added change which incorporates nabaxo's idea of a recursive acronym.

AMAZON stands for:

AMAZON Maidens Against Zeus's Other Nations.

Now what the other AMAZON stands for is still unclear. Perhaps we'll find out in time.

But I agree that Zenobia is worthy of our tribe. She should definitely get a city or unit named after her.

Those are my thoughts.

nabaxo
Mar 22, 2010, 03:43 AM
Maybe AMAZON's Mighty Alliance of the Zenobian Omnipotent Nations? Don't know if it makes sense anymore. :P

remake20
Mar 22, 2010, 08:09 AM
I still think it shouldn't stand for anything. How about we claim that the name is so powerful that it we hear it, we die.

Sommerswerd
Mar 22, 2010, 11:41 AM
Maybe AMAZON's Mighty Alliance of the Zenobian Omnipotent Nations? Don't know if it makes sense anymore. :P Makes perfect sense. I like this variation:goodjob:

@r20 - Maybe your point about keeping it a secret could be fun. Maybe only AMAZONs are allowed to know/say the WHOLE meaning, but we can slowly reveal parts of the meaning to our allies in our diplomacy with them. A great opportunity to do a little role-playing.

Maybe every 100 years or so we reveal a different part, or with every diplomatic message we tell a little tiny bit of the story...

The mystery could also be a great topic for our international newspaper!:D

remake20
Mar 22, 2010, 01:15 PM
Okay.

nabaxo
Mar 22, 2010, 03:22 PM
If we do it like Sommer says, we then wont have to decide on anything. We could just give contradicting explanations to the other teams at different occasions, you know. Just for shits and giggles! A little mind:):):):)ing is always fun. :D

remake20
Mar 22, 2010, 03:30 PM
Or we could give all of them the wrong meaning. :evil:

wideyedwanderer
Mar 22, 2010, 06:29 PM
I like the idea of keeping the true meaning a secret to team members only, while giving false meanings to outsiders.

But you know, maybe even among AMAZONs there is great internal debate as to the true meaning of our name. The secret has been lost to time, over the course of thousands of years. Many have searched for clues to the name, but there is no one conclusive definition.

ALL HAIL ZENOBIA!

remake20
Mar 22, 2010, 07:30 PM
There we could add some role playing. All AMAZONs have to find out our true name.

TheMeInTeam
Mar 22, 2010, 09:23 PM
Always
Making
A
Zulu
Offensive
Notion

Norton I
Mar 22, 2010, 10:09 PM
AMAZONs making acronyms... zany or nerdy?

Loev
Mar 23, 2010, 02:11 AM
Always
Massively
Aware
ZzzZZzzZ
OW
NOESS
Sleepy :(

classical_hero
Mar 23, 2010, 06:14 AM
It is quite Amazon that you are doing this.

I hope you knew that I was taking your team name as a bastardisation of calling you amazing. Well that how I see you team name.

remake20
Mar 23, 2010, 07:05 AM
I still say we find out a little bit at a time.

RasmCiv
Mar 23, 2010, 09:03 AM
AMAZON's Might Always Zap(or Zurprise :D) Other Nations

nabaxo
Mar 24, 2010, 08:02 AM
Sorry for repeating myself, but I really like (my?) the idea of giving conflicting and contradicting accounts on the meaning of the name of different occasions.

fireflames
Mar 24, 2010, 06:21 PM
Sorry for repeating myself, but I really like (my?) the idea of giving conflicting and contradicting accounts on the meaning of the name of different occasions.

I concur. Let's make it fluid. That's an advantage of the acronym!

Gingi
Mar 24, 2010, 08:20 PM
I still think it shouldn't stand for anything. How about we claim that the name is so powerful that it we hear it, we die.

Or that it is so sacred that we can never say it, like the Jewish Tetragrammaton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton), the name of the God of Israel, which we never say. Ever ever.

Ancient Jewish tradition said that the name could only be said by the High Cohen, on Yom Kippur, inside the First or Second Temples of Jerusalem (the First being the Temple of Solomon). Which pretty much means it could only be said by the holiest person on Earth, at the holiest time of the year, at the holiest place on Earth. Most people didn't even know what the name was. During prayer, Jews say fillers words, and when not during prayer, we just say Hashem, which literally means "The Name" in Hebrew. So it could be like that.

Or alternatively, we could just do like nabaxo said and tell each team it stands for something different. That would just be hilarious! We'd need to think of five different things.

I like the AMAZON's Mighty Alliance of the Zenobian Omnipotent Nations. Then to make it make sense (for we'd be one civilization, not an alliance of several) we could make our civ divided into city-state type things, like in Ancient Greece, where Athens and Sparta would have two different governments. So then they would be an alliance, like a confederacy.

But that would be our story to just one team, we'd need 4 more of those. And they need to contradict each other as much as possible. Like for instance the next one could include a legend of how the universe was created by an ancient dragon with seven heads (Hydra?) who made the Sun out of his fiery breath, and he ruled over the universe for many thousands of years, and when he was ready to die he curled up into a ball and became the Earth on which we live on today. But he had a bunch of fleas on his body (we won't provide any explanation of how they got there :D). And it gets even weirder.

No, we aren't descendants of those fleas, cause that would just be too simple. No, the fleas were gods, and each one had been sucking the blood of the great dragon from a different head, and each head did different things, so the fleas gained special powers based on the head that they had been living on. And they became the great gods that the AMAZONs worship. One made the sea, one the trees, etc. etc. Then after that the seven god-fleas wove their spirits into one and left their great bodies as a mountain and flew into the sky, exploding and creating a bunch of sparkles in the sky (the stars). Then one of the pieces fell back down on the mountain and where it struck there was a volcano, that erupted a while later.

The only problem was the Earth was still the great body of the seven-headed dragon in his sleep, and when the volcano erupted and matter came out from within the body, some of the dragons' soul came out and that became life. And to this day our civ still worships AMAZON, the Awesome Monster that Attacks Z_____ Of N_______

That was long. :crazyeye:

wideyedwanderer
Mar 24, 2010, 10:19 PM
Or alternatively, we could just do like nabaxo said and tell each team it stands for something different. That would just be hilarious! We'd need to think of five different things.

I like this idea a lot. Instead of each of us saying different things, we should make it uniform to each team, i.e. we tell Sirius one story, tell Merlot another story, tell CDZ another story, ect. That way each team will truly believe the story we tell them, but at some point they'll realize that other teams are saying something else...

nabaxo
Mar 25, 2010, 03:50 AM
I love mind-games! Glad you took a liking to the idea! This will be hilarious! xD

remake20
Mar 25, 2010, 07:51 AM
What happened to Diana :confused:
Okay here we go:

There once was a man just floating around in space. He never did much, because he had almost nothing to do. Diana had put him there for a reason for putting him there, but he didn't know why. His name: Adam Savage. Adam was floating around in space when we saw this huge light. He was is shock because he had never seen anything in space before, not even light. He floated in to the light and he felt like he was becoming powerful. Hr suddenly grew to enormous size, he thought this must be Diana's great power. He then head Diana's audible voice and she sad, "Take this rock that I have given you and take with it and make a home for my might descendant." Because of the power of Diana's voice Adam went def for the full two years it took him to carve this giant rock. When he was done he said, "Diana, your home for your people is done." Somewhere in the universe she replied, "Thanks I'll be right there " He then saw Diana wit the golden rope. Because of the power of the rope he went blind for the rest of his life. Diana then took something so very small and put it on the rock. She said, "Now go, live on on that planet that is called CFC BTS MTDG II. I have given you power, and take it. Since you are more powerful then you were before, you need a new name. From now on your people will be called will be called Arisen Marvels At the Zenobian Overpower-full Nation." Adam went down to the CBM II and lived there for the rest of his life. About 10 years later someone who the called Jaroo came and put 10 other people on the planet, we cursed them in the name of Diana but they would not go away. All of our people started to grow until we founded our first city...

How was that? I know I didn't use name suggestions, but if this is not our real name it doesn't matter.

Sommerswerd
Mar 25, 2010, 10:10 AM
Somebody please remember where we have all these stories to put in our diplo when we start meeting other teams.
:lmao:

Gingi
Mar 25, 2010, 03:29 PM
I like this idea a lot. Instead of each of us saying different things, we should make it uniform to each team, i.e. we tell Sirius one story, tell Merlot another story, tell CDZ another story, ect. That way each team will truly believe the story we tell them, but at some point they'll realize that other teams are saying something else...

I think that was the idea from the beginning, we tell each team something completely different that contradicts each other. :)

About the Adam Savage story, that doesn't explain why we're called AMAZONs. Any ideas for the correlation?

Allright, I figured out how to complete my acronym (the Awesome Monster that Attacks Z_____ Of N______) We would change it to the Awesome Monster that Attacks Zenobian Omnipotent Nations. :goodjob:

That way we'd tell one team we're called the "AMAZON's Mighty Alliance of the Zenobian Omnipotent Nations" and the second team that we worship the "Awesome Monster that Attacks Zenobian Omnipotent Nations". Yeah. Exactly.

remake20
Mar 25, 2010, 05:32 PM
About the Adam Savage story, that doesn't explain why we're called AMAZONs. Any ideas for the correlation?

I will edit it, look at it again soon. EDIT: Done. Sommerswerd, was that :lmao: in response to my story or your comment? :confused:

Norton I
Mar 25, 2010, 06:35 PM
Hey... we haven't got any zombie options yet :mischief:

..how about: AMAZONs Make Angry Zombies Of Neighbours

SilentConfusion
Mar 25, 2010, 06:47 PM
Hey... we haven't got any zombie options yet :mischief:

..how about: AMAZONs Make Angry Zombies Of Neighbours

I like it.

remake20
Mar 25, 2010, 06:52 PM
I don't really like the name. Sorry if I offended you, but I don't think we should be as (AHHH I can't think of the word!!!) humorous (that's what I have now) as that. Though if it is a name to give someone else, go ahead.

SilentConfusion
Mar 25, 2010, 06:59 PM
That just sounds retarded IMO. Sorry if I offended you, but I don't think we should be as (AHHH I can't think of the word!!!), uh, humorous (that's what I got now) as that. Though if it is a name to give someone else, go ahead.

I don't think it's appropriate to call a suggestion retarded. Just say you don't like it because you don't think we should have a humorous name. That way you get your opinion across with supporting reasons without attacking someone else's idea.

remake20
Mar 25, 2010, 07:00 PM
You have a point. Sorry Norton.

Gingi
Mar 25, 2010, 07:01 PM
That just sounds retarded IMO. Sorry if I offended you, but I don't think we should be as (AHHH I can't think of the word!!!), uh, humorous (that's what I got now) as that. Though if it is a name to give someone else, go ahead.

I didn't understand any of that past "retarded".

Norton I
Mar 25, 2010, 07:13 PM
You have a point. Sorry Norton.

No need to apologize, I'm not offended :cool:

remake20
Mar 25, 2010, 07:25 PM
Thanks :) I'm been kind of mean lately, sorry for my behavior.

nabaxo
Mar 25, 2010, 07:30 PM
Bah! Funny ones are great! This whole team is built on humour and a laid-back attitude. :D

remake20
Mar 25, 2010, 07:35 PM
But having a funny name doesn't sound like we are playing the game very serious IMO, but that is just MO.

Link
Mar 25, 2010, 08:05 PM
i dont like the acronims. they dont sound like anything id ever rlly want a team im on 2 b called, and i dont think its possible 2 come up with a good one bc weve already determined the word which isnt how an acronim should be made

remake20
Mar 25, 2010, 08:15 PM
I kind of agree with link, but since everyone else seems to be in favor of it, eh WTH. (I'm not Canadian)

Sommerswerd
Apr 06, 2010, 11:55 PM
Now that the game has started, we can give our Civ a unique Name, short name and adjective. We don't Have to stick with AMAZON Empire. For Example, CDZ is the "CDZerian Kleptocracy", or something like that.

I sugggest that our Official name, the one that you see when you log in should be: Zenobian Omnipotent Nations

Allied Magnificent Accolytes should be Our Short Name (the one you see when you scroll over the Units/Territory)

And "AMAZON" should be Our adjective - what you see for culture (ie. 75% AMAZON, 25% Dutch) or for when it says "Your scout was killed by an AMAZON Immortal"

nabaxo
Apr 07, 2010, 05:33 AM
Imo "matriarchy" should definately be in the name there somewhere.

remake20
Apr 07, 2010, 08:00 AM
How about just, Land of the Mighty. We don't want people to know what it actualy stands for.

Sommerswerd
Apr 07, 2010, 09:53 AM
Imo "matriarchy" should definately be in the name there somewhere. @ nabaxo - How bout' Allied "Matriarchal"?

damnrunner
Apr 07, 2010, 03:48 PM
This could be a good combo

The Alliance of Matriarchal And Zenobian Omnipotent Nations


Some other thoughts
Omnipotent could be replaced with omnipresent. The fact that we are an "alliance of sovereign nations" would explain all the polling we do.

Sommerswerd
Apr 07, 2010, 07:18 PM
The Alliance of Matriarchal And Zenobian Omnipotent Nations... Some other thoughts... The fact that we are an "alliance of sovereign nations" would explain all the polling we do.:goodjob:Ding! Ding! Ding! :agree:

FYI...
Omipotent = All Powerful, Most Powerful, Strongest
Omnipresent = All Around You, All Encompasing, Everywhere
Omniscient = All Knowing, All Seeing, Most Intelligent

All of these apply to the AMAZONs IMO... :D

remake20
Apr 08, 2010, 08:25 AM
Omnipotent FTW.

Quaczar
Apr 08, 2010, 09:21 PM
Since all three apply how about we use all three........Omnipotentpresentscient

Loev
Apr 09, 2010, 04:43 AM
When I hear Omnipotent I think completely different stuff...

damnrunner
Apr 09, 2010, 06:43 AM
When I hear Omnipotent I think completely different stuff...

I agree - and prefer Omnipresent

nabaxo
Apr 09, 2010, 06:51 AM
Omniscient is cooler. :D

damnrunner
Apr 09, 2010, 07:48 AM
I like omnipresent as we hope to spam cities.

remake20
Apr 09, 2010, 07:58 AM
But that's doesn't make us sound as powerful.

damnrunner
Apr 09, 2010, 09:10 AM
But that's doesn't make us sound as powerful.

Nor does the word Zenobian.

Sommerswerd
Apr 09, 2010, 11:27 AM
Nor does the word Zenobian. As I explained in This Post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9021127&postcount=7), the word "Zenobian" refers to the mighty warrior queen Zenobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenobia)

So I think that's pretty powerful:D

remake20
Apr 09, 2010, 02:00 PM
^ Maybe not if no one knows who she is.

Sommerswerd
Apr 09, 2010, 04:27 PM
^ Maybe not if no one knows who she is. You have already said so many times that you WANT our name to be mysterious... So you should like it if nobody knows who she is.;)

One more thing for the others to wonder about us, and be mystified by;)

remake20
Apr 09, 2010, 04:33 PM
It's fine by me. ;) sorry for confusion.

SilentConfusion
Apr 10, 2010, 11:49 PM
It's fine by me. ;) sorry for confusion.

You don't have to apologize for me. I'm not your fault. ;)

Sommerswerd
Apr 16, 2010, 09:58 AM
It seems like we have "Matriarchal", "Zenobian" and "Nations" decided, as well as one of the 'As' being for "Alliance" or "Allied" and the 'O' being for Omnipresent, Omnipotent or Omniscient.

We just need to decide on the other 'A'

A__________ Matriarchal A__________ of the Zenobian O____________ Nations

For the other 'A' we can go with:
"Allmighty"
"Accolytes"
"Associated" , "Associates", "Association"
or "And"

leonisgod
Apr 21, 2010, 08:46 AM
I'm late to the party, but here's my contribution: All Males And Zero Obvious Nubians.

remake20
Apr 21, 2010, 08:49 AM
:lol: I like it, but I'm not sure about using it for our name.

Sommerswerd
Apr 21, 2010, 09:59 AM
Here are all the suggestions so far...
Amazing Mermaids After Zoink's Oval Nation AMAZON Maidens Against Zeus's Other Nations.AMAZON's Mighty Alliance of the Zenobian Omnipotent NationsAlways Making A Zulu Offensive NotionAlways Massively Aware ZzzZZzzZ OW NOESS SleepyAMAZON's Might Always Zap Other Nationsit is so sacred that we can never say it Arisen Marvels At the Zenobian Overpower-full Nation Awesome Monster that Attacks Zenobian Omnipotent Nations AMAZONs Make Angry Zombies Of NeighboursAllied Magnificent Accolytes of the Zenobian Omnipotent Nations Alliance of Matriarchal And Zenobian Omnipotent Nations All Males And Zero Obvious Nubians.
Another thought I had was: Allied Matriarchal Association of Zenobian Omnipotent Nations.

I will put up a poll request for this:D fun fun fun!:clap:

nabaxo
Apr 21, 2010, 03:24 PM
We should take a good, long hard look at this: http://s1020.photobucket.com/albums/af325/TeamAMAZON1/?action=accountoptions

wideyedwanderer
Apr 21, 2010, 07:20 PM
^ It's ironic that in our profile it says "female" yet we have no female members. Unless you count Loev in his dress. :crazyeye:

remake20
Apr 21, 2010, 07:50 PM
Says who?!?! If you are an AMAZON you are never male.

nabaxo
Apr 21, 2010, 11:05 PM
I meant that fact that it's a public profile and album that ANYONE can see.

Sommerswerd
Apr 22, 2010, 06:50 AM
Moved discussion of photobucket account to the to Turnplayer to-do thread. Probably best place for it since nabaxo is playing the turn.;)

nabaxo
Apr 29, 2010, 01:06 AM
I think we should change our in-game empire name to the AMAZON Matriarchy.

Sommerswerd
Apr 29, 2010, 07:50 AM
I made some changes... log in and see:)

remake20
Apr 29, 2010, 07:55 AM
You can't see on civstats :(

WAIT!!!!! YOU CAN'T GIVE THEM OUR REAL NAME!!!!1

Sommerswerd
Apr 29, 2010, 04:13 PM
The whole real name can't fit, so don't worry the mystery is still afoot.;) Plus even with the Adjective and the short name, you still dcan't tell what the full name is. The only way for them to know is to ask us... and then we get to tell them the long stories.:D

remake20
Apr 29, 2010, 07:36 PM
Still. I would rather it be something completely fake and I think that's what everyone wants.

Sommerswerd
Apr 29, 2010, 07:50 PM
Everyone? :smug: Hmmm... the "We never tell it" choice only got 6 votes...

remake20
Apr 29, 2010, 07:53 PM
Never tell it? No I meant we never tell it to other teams. Huh? I'm confused.

nabaxo
Apr 30, 2010, 12:09 AM
For us that can't log in, what has all of it been changed to?

remake20
Apr 30, 2010, 07:43 AM
Zenobian Omnipotent Nation I think (can't log in ATM)