I don't know about you guys, but I don't like buying games right after release. Obviously there are quite a few people who disagree with me on this, or the industry wouldn't be in the state it's in.

I don't like paying to be a beta-tester. It's supposed to work the other way around.

I don't like paying $50 for a game when, with a little patience, it will be in the bargain bin inside a year for $20, AND it will have some of the more grievous bugs patched.

I don't like buying a new anything until I've heard from other people who bought it and gotten some of their opinions. (Assuming I can't take whatever it is for a testdrive myself.)

I do understand not all bugs can be caught by playtesters before they number in the millions. I do understand there comes a point you have to release the thing to the wild. I do understand Firaxis generally doesn't release games that don't even run before the first patch or three comes out (unlike some companies). I do understand that when something reaches rockstar status, there are far more mindless drones, many of whom are proud to admit it, who will pay anything to be the first to own, if not play, a new game they really want instead of taking the thing off the pedestal and having some patience.

But the question still remains: when will you be getting Civ5?

I pre-purchased the deluxe edition already. I usually wait to buy games... but civ 5 deserves an exception.

i made preorder on amazon
i firmly believe that i will like it!

Well if I'm going to be forced to use Steam in order to play, which is going to be the case according to what I've been reading, then never.

After two expansion packs, three patches, a new computer, and time for our friends to generate some fan-content, I'll be happy to buy Civ V - I figure 3 or 4 years down the road.

I usually wait 1-2 years, because, prices have got way out of hand lately, and the PC games tend to have bugs unlike the gamestation counterparts.
Civ has a History of trying to sell us 1/3 of the game at a time.
So, you have to wait until the rest of it is out to determine if it is a good game, or so-so with alot of current hype.
Especially, with all of this backpedalling they are doing on game mechanics.
Sure the graphics look nice, but, a new paint job won't encourage me to buy a lame car either.
I grew in the age of Microsoft! Never buy version 1.0 of anything! I learned.
I didn't buy an electric car when they came out either.
I let others be the guinea pigs, lol.
:)

I will wait at least for a year, or when the first expansion comes.

I commit the mistake of buying the Civilization IV Special release edition and my computer had a ATI graphics card, it was supposed to work but it didn't.

Not funny.

EDIT:

Oh, I forgot, I have the 2 CDs version of Civilization IV, with the "put this CD to play the game" in the wrong disc. :D:D:D:D:D

Not a good experience when you have pre-ordered a game, waited for 2 months, had the game 2 days later than the release day and wasted 4 hours figuring out how to make the game run.

I won't be buying it. Steam = No Sale as far as I'm concerned.

I once made the mistake to buy a game "unseen", i.e. on release date. I loved Master of Orion 2 so much, that I bought MoO3 as soon as i could get my hands on it. And it was crap. It just didnt had the spirit of MoO2, it didnt had the balance and its stupid real itme fights were.. well.. boring.

Since then I never pre-ordered a game again. I wait at least a few days, read reports and stuff like that, read comments in forums like this one. But I will not buy it on day 0. If I buy it, depends on your reactions. And sometimes its just a question of "when" or "for how much money" rather than "if". But my point is: I get it not before week 2 or so after release.

Semmel

My fiance will buy it for me on the first day or release. :banana:

I'll probably buy it pretty early, but might wait to see what the plans for DLC and expansion packs are.

The Steam deal has introduced too much uncertainty. It is now on my not to buy ever list. Year or two down the road when we see how things go, I will think it over again.

If Civ 5 uses the nickel and dime the player to death model, it for sure is a bad idea.

I like Civ, but there are a lot of good games coming down the road. And to be sure, there are good games on my shelf I have never had time to play. Probably most serious players are in the same happy situation.

The only thing that can restore confidence at this point would be a full and detailed disclosure of how Civ 5 will be sold and a careful explanation of what they intend to do with Steam and what they do not intend to do.

Of course, this was a deal between 2K and Valve. Firaxis may have been out of the loop. Sid Meier may have no idea what is going on.

They just announced it requires Steam, so I won't be buying it. Thanks a lot, Firaxis

Preordered yesterday. Looks like it's £10.00 reduced for preorders atm.

no plans on buying immediately. as a couple people have mentioned, a few years down the road I "might" take a look at it again for consideration but given the current information available and published I am not overly optimistic. a shame really but so it goes....~

[x] Other

I cancelled my Amazon preorder yesterday right after the Valve/2KGames cooperation was announced.
Will buy it as soon as it becomes free of steam and/or other DRM-restrictments

I usually don't pre-order games since they are expensive and often times do have bugs. However, Civilization is the one exception to that rule. I have been playing this game since version one came out and will not wait one more moment then the download takes. Life is short and you have to be willing to indulge in your gameplay delights when they happen. :mischief:

Will be pre-ordering it on payday, and will get a mysterious illness for a few days in September that just force me to stay at home...

Bargain bin. I was a 1st day purchase until this week's news about DRM that requires activation for the game to work. That devalues the product enough for me that I can see myself picking up Civ 5 Complete for $5 in a few years, instead of buying the game and its expansion packs for full price.

Count me into the no-Steam group...
Looked forward to this, but I guess this means I will be using my mods a lot longer, and then learning more modding for Civ4.

If they get rid of the Steam requirement, I will buy it that day.
I don't want to have to connect to the internet to play a game, at any point, that I already BOUGHT with my own :gold:

I will pre-order it on steam and use Steam's fantastic service to pre-load it, begin playing it at midnight on release day, and then play it until I can no longer see the screen for lack of sleep.

I'll get it when the steamless version is relased. *something EVIL i could get banned for*

I work in a game store... I'll buy the Deluxe the second it gets delivered. When my wife told me that the baby we're expecting is to be born end September, I actually cursed because that's when Civ comes out and I was going to plan 2 weeks holidays then...
Don't mind the steam, steam works pretty good. Would pre-order there if not for employee discount.
If however I find evidence anywhere that modding won't be free (eg: can't mod in a Babylon civ because that's "DLC only"), I'm not buying.

If it did not have steam, i would have been willed to buy it in the first week, maybe even on the first day, but so...

I registered after finding out about the DLC /Steam announcement
I have bought civ 1 to 4 with add-ons multiple times for myself and as gifts.
If the dlc is zero day no sale, steam required=no sale .
Perhaps after a GOTY version with all the dlc comes out I will buy it install so i only have to mess with steam once or move on to other games:(
I have been computer gaming since 1977 I don't pirate so i have never played hl2 or other games that require additional stuff to run the industry has saved me money my expenses on games have went from 400 or more a year to less than 200. Please release a version I can support I WANT to give you my money for civ 5 but at present this will be the first civ I havent bought on release day thanks

I dont think there will be a GOTY Edition. Civ5 is gonna to get very bad, it'll never get a "GOTY" Award.

I dont think there will be a GOTY Edition. Civ5 is gonna to get very bad, it'll never get a "GOTY" Award.

Wow, throwing the baby out with the bathwater? It's on steam so it's bad? Really? Check your priorities, man.

I'll prolly buy it on release day or within a week (after the reviews come out). I am not happy about the DRM but if it needs to be there i would prefer steam to others...

I'll probably wait until I get better comp stuff so I can actually play on big maps. Or until someone makes a mod with Israel :D

I'll buy it a few weeks after

Will probably preorder.

P.S. the first option in the poll could be phrased better - "have preordered/will preorder" instead just "I pre-bought it"

I'll probably buy it in the store the day it comes out. There's a slim chance I'll buy it as a DLC, but it's been a while since I bought a game with an actual box and manual. That'd be nice for a change.

I am making my way to Civ V, still playing Civ III, though.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/spore.png

So, I guess not in the next 2 years. :king:

Well if I'm going to be forced to use Steam in order to play, which is going to be the case according to what I've been reading, then never.

Leaning that way too and very bummed out about the bundling with anything like Steam. Unless they patch it to not be tied to steam eventually, kinda like the did with the CD required removal with Civ IV after a couple years.

I work in a game store... I'll buy the Deluxe the second it gets delivered. When my wife told me that the baby we're expecting is to be born end September, I actually cursed because that's when Civ comes out and I was going to plan 2 weeks holidays then...
Let me be the first to say, officially, you have your priorities WAY off.

Other: too early to tell. While I have pre-ordered [civ4] previously, I waited till about a month before the release when there was more info out there about the game and its features. In this case, not fully understanding what this steam :nuke: thing practically means, I may wait a few months after the release to see what's going on. Work wise I won't have any time in September anyway.

Let me be the first to say, officially, you have your priorities WAY off.I agree, just ask if she can't hold it for a few weeks. :p

Let me be the first to say, officially, you have your priorities WAY off.

Ahh com on.. He is just showing of for the folks here to sound cool. When he gets his baby "delivered" he will not look at his PC for a long time. So give him some slack ;-)

I was set on trying to wait just a little while, at least for the first patch to come out, wich when it comes to the latest edition of the Civilization franchise probably would involve voluntary imprisonment, ropes and chains, straitjacket and/or other means of restraint. The use of certain DRMs however, can be a complete dealbreaker.

I will get this when I don't have to use steam, I understand many people like the program, I have used it but really don't like it. When it comes out on Gamersgate I shall purchase it.

I'll wait until I can play it outside of Steam- and the likely final version.

If Steam hadn't been forced on me- Day 1.

I encourage others who feel the same way to change their title.

I'll wait until I can play it outside of Steam- and the likely final version.

If Steam hadn't been forced on me- Day 1.

I encourage others who feel the same way to change their title.

Steamworks is fundamentally integrated into the game. You are never going to be able to play without steam, you are living in a fantasy land.

Bargain bin. I was a 1st day purchase until this week's news about DRM that requires activation for the game to work. That devalues the product enough for me that I can see myself picking up Civ 5 Complete for $5 in a few years, instead of buying the game and its expansion packs for full price.

+1 Bad move 2k. I voted first day, I was just clicking and forgot about the DLC for a minute, but for sure it is not first day now.

Probably a couple days after release.

Oh, It kinda bugs me how many people seem to hate on steam without giving a full reason. I use it a lot, the only real problem I notice is the occasional maintenance, and that only really disrupts the friends server. The only foreseeable problem I can think of is not having an internet connection when you want to activate it.

... I just hope they don't add achievements.

Edit: They did. Damn.

I once made the mistake to buy a game "unseen", i.e. on release date. I loved Master of Orion 2 so much, that I bought MoO3 as soon as i could get my hands on it. And it was crap...

I also loved Master of Orion 2 and so I made the same mistake and felt the same pain of disappointment.

But I will probably be weak and either pre-order or purchase on release day. I suppose I'm one part fool and one part optimist.

I was definitely excited about Civ5 and was planning on getting it the first week if not the first day (I would prefer Steam to not have been required, but its not a dealbreaker), but then I heard about the whole "standard" and "deluxe" edition and the DLC.

I have to say, Firaxis lost a lot of respect in my eyes then. I'm not even sure if i'm going to get it anymore.

Okay... I know people love to hate Steam in order to prove how leet they are and stuff and that's fine. However, you're really gonna have to decide just how much your hatred is worth. Steamworks is built into the game. This isn't like Civ IV where it was Steam enabled. Steamworks is a library that provides built-in support for messaging and voice communication and multiplayer matchmaking, as well as some candy such as achievements. Saying "I'm going to wait until Steam is patched out" is like saying "I'll buy Civ IV when Firaxis patches out Multiplayer." It's part of the game. It's not going to be patched out. Of course, voicing your belief that this is possible simply means you don't understand the system.

More importantly: For those of you who are actually buying the game, let me make a suggestion: Pre-purchase the game. No, I'm not trying to shill for Valve or 2K or Firaxis. If you're worried about playing the game on Steam, then do yourself a favor and pre-purchase it via Steam and let Steam pre-load the thing for you. I don't know how popular Civ5 will be, but release days for AAA titles tend to get busy. If you have a slow link, the last thing you want to do is to be one of the people stuck behind a loading dialog as hundreds of other users in your immediate area choke the download servers.

Now, perhaps those of you buying the DVDs will have a quicker validation. It will certainly be better than those downloading on the first day. However, experience has shown the people who pre-purchase and pre-load are off and playing their game while others are complaining about crowded servers. The other way to avoid this mess is to simply not install the game until a day after release. If you can, wait two days and whatever errors might exist with the installation will be resolved already.

Now, for those of you looking for ammunition against Steam: Yes, release days on popular titles suck. This isn't any more of a weakness of Steam than it is for movie theaters. If you're going to boycott a game because you had to wait a little while to play your game then I don't have much more to say.

Because Civ5 requires steam, I wont be purchasing it.

Otherwise, I might have considered buying the game.

Normally buy immediately, but due to DLC related concerns, I'm trying to decide whether I buy it discounted or not at all.

Okay... I know people love to hate Steam in order to prove how leet they are and stuff and that's fine. However, you're really gonna have to decide just how much your hatred is worth. Steamworks is built into the game. This isn't like Civ IV where it was Steam enabled. Steamworks is a library that provides built-in support for messaging and voice communication and multiplayer matchmaking, as well as some candy such as achievements. Saying "I'm going to wait until Steam is patched out" is like saying "I'll buy Civ IV when Firaxis patches out Multiplayer." It's part of the game. It's not going to be patched out. Of course, voicing your belief that this is possible simply means you don't understand the system.

More importantly: For those of you who are actually buying the game, let me make a suggestion: Pre-purchase the game. No, I'm not trying to shill for Valve or 2K or Firaxis. If you're worried about playing the game on Steam, then do yourself a favor and pre-purchase it via Steam and let Steam pre-load the thing for you. I don't know how popular Civ5 will be, but release days for AAA titles tend to get busy. If you have a slow link, the last thing you want to do is to be one of the people stuck behind a loading dialog as hundreds of other users in your immediate area choke the download servers.

Now, perhaps those of you buying the DVDs will have a quicker validation. It will certainly be better than those downloading on the first day. However, experience has shown the people who pre-purchase and pre-load are off and playing their game while others are complaining about crowded servers. The other way to avoid this mess is to simply not install the game until a day after release. If you can, wait two days and whatever errors might exist with the installation will be resolved already.

Now, for those of you looking for ammunition against Steam: Yes, release days on popular titles suck. This isn't any more of a weakness of Steam than it is for movie theaters. If you're going to boycott a game because you had to wait a little while to play your game then I don't have much more to say.
I love posts that go to great lengths to explain rational behavior to everyone, such as this...
I can tell you that I couldn't even make it through the first paragraph of this blurb, but thanks for the pontification nevertheless!

I'll probably pre-buy it at some point over the summer. The whole Steam thing doesn't really bother me and I'm looking forward to the game.

I'll be repurchasing it when we're a little closer to release.

Unless Steam eats my baby of course.

I dont buy a game that need Steam to play it. So my hope is that they will remove the Steam parts for the bargain Versions or when it will be aviable at other Digital Stores but if not I simply will never buy it.
Without Steam or other Online Requirments I probably would have bought it on release.

I know ill be buying a dvd version, still not sure when. As some people have stated, steam was on 2ks side not fraxis, and sid may have no idea whats going on with steam. So according to that the game dev team hasnt put steam into the game yet? And dont kno what its for?

My guess on this mess theyve made in terms of steam is that they 1. Couldnt put together a workable system for mods ect 2. Maybe are running way behind, and steam seems to do just what their looking for and is easy to patch into what theyve designed so far. 3. Steam deal was inked a way long time ago, and thats where the whole idea behind getting mods in game came fro

Without knowing really when the deal was made, id have to go with 1 or 3 but 2 is just as likely.
I would have loved to not kno about civ V and come across it 3 yrs from now and buy it once the dust has settled. Thats the only way i could wait that long, so ill have it after reviews and people who plan on playing offline post their experiances. Hopefully that happens sooner than later.

I am going to prepurchase Civ5 Deluxe next month (waiting for money) from Steam.

Wow! Lots of Steam vilification. Sorry I didn't realize this would be a factor when I made the poll.

However, it looks like about half of all people will be buying within the first week of release. to be honest, I'm surprised the numbers aren't higher. I thought there were a lot more people with no self-control than that. Something I'm glad to be wrong about!

I was under the impression that Steam was just an option this time, that if you bought the Steam version you got the Babs and such, but from what I'm seeing in this thread, that's not the case. I'm not sure how that affects my decision. I have a gut-reaction to decline to buy it, but I try not to let my gut-reactions be the boss of me when I don't know why they're there.

Wow! Lots of Steam vilification. Sorry I didn't realize this would be a factor when I made the poll.

However, it looks like about half of all people will be buying within the first week of release. to be honest, I'm surprised the numbers aren't higher. I thought there were a lot more people with no self-control than that. Something I'm glad to be wrong about!

I was under the impression that Steam was just an option this time, that if you bought the Steam version you got the Babs and such, but from what I'm seeing in this thread, that's not the case. I'm not sure how that affects my decision. I have a gut-reaction to decline to buy it, but I try not to let my gut-reactions be the boss of me when I don't know why they're there.

This is how I look at it. Steam is a Home Console system like your Xbox or PS3. You buy games for each system and play them. Civ V is now a Steam Platformer, which I can say is better than the Xbox/Windows Live counterpart.

I will be pre-purchasing it on Steam. I would also like to say that modding will be no different than for Civ IV is now. The only difference will be that there are 2 or 3 folders between X:\ and Civ V folder but this will allow for a more streamlined approach to modding. Since the core folders under steam wont change from user to user... unlike Civ IV where there was 2 different folder sets for it.

I pre-bought it. At Steam and Games Universe.

Steamworks is fundamentally integrated into the game. You are never going to be able to play without steam, you are living in a fantasy land.

There is 99.99999999999999999...% probability that you can't legally play Civ 5 without Steam. There is also 99.999999999999...% probability that there will be less than legal ways to play Civ 5 without steam, at least it's single player part of it.

Oh and I leave my choise up to your imagination ;)

There is 99.99999999999999999...% probability that you can't legally play Civ 5 without Steam. There is also 99.999999999999...% probability that there will be less than legal ways to play Civ 5 without steam, at least it's single player part of it.

Oh and I leave my choise up to your imagination ;)

You can't play it without steam. Even cracked versions of steamworks games work on the basis of a crippled version of steam running behind the scenes rather than somehow detaching the game.

Sorry buddy.

I pre-purchased the deluxe edition already. I usually wait to buy games... but civ 5 deserves an exception.

No, I don't usually wait to buy games, I ALWAYS wait to buy games, But civ 5 deserves my Pre-ordering v-card.

I'm pre-ordering it on Steam during the summer. I don't understand people who are not buying it because of Steam. This is your loss and you are missing out on a great game just to spite Steam, which is just a one time activation.

I pre-bought it, however if steam isn't remove before release, I will cancel the order.

People can live without civ5 you know.

I'm pre-ordering it on Steam during the summer. I don't understand people who are not buying it because of Steam.

It's called having principles.

We are always told that one of the main reasons game prices are as high as they are is because of piracy. When a company takes incredible measures (makes you rent a game) to address piracy but keeps the price high (sometimes higher), only a fool wouldn't ask questions.

Indeed, the asking price for Civ5 is more than I have ever paid for a new video game whether on console or PC. 80 USD for the regular edition. Apart from MW2, Civ5 is the most expensive game on steam, equal with a few others.
If one goes with the Deluxe edition, Civ5 is the most expensive game available, equal with MW2.

It's quite difficult to ignore the opportunity that Valve and Firaxis/TakeTwo have here.

It's interesting to see that two of the other games that are at 80 USD also happen to be digital deluxe editions. Valve have done well getting Take Two to agree to this deal.

I'm going to wait for some independent scuttlebutt before buying.

I'm willing to bet that most of the naysayers actually buy the game within a few days of release. :lol:

I'm willing to bet that most of the naysayers actually buy the game within a few days of release. :lol:
Correct. Releaseday of a version that doesn't force one into Steam (or any other kind of DRM) is the day I and many others buy the game.

I don't think a legal non-steam version will ever be released.

Most Civvers will forget their principles, give into temptation, and buy it soon after release.

For me Steam isn't that much of a problem. If it were GFWL or UBICRAP DRM then I would not buy it.

If the decision to require Steam stays, which I fully expect it will, then I won't be buying it.

If the decision to require Steam goes, which I fully doubt, then I will be buying it on release day or pre-ordering.

Naturally there are a few Civvers who will adhere to their principles. But I'm willing to bet my house that most will give it a few days and then give into temptation.

It's basic human nature.

If the sales of C5 are markedly below C4 then I will have been proven wrong, and will be selling the Big Issue.

Naturally there are a few Civvers who will adhere to their principles. But I'm willing to bet my house that most will give it a few days and then give into temptation.

It's basic human nature.

If the sales of C5 are markedly below C4 then I will have been proven wrong, and will be selling the Big Issue.

I agree a lot will cave. Those that don't will probably be forgotten by the developers since those that did fall into their trap will now get self-pressured into buying lots of downloadable extra content to make up for the loss of initial sales.

I just know I won't be one of them.

I agree a lot will cave. Those that don't will probably be forgotten by the developers since those that did fall into their trap will now get self-pressured into buying lots of downloadable extra content to make up for the loss of initial sales.

I just know I won't be one of them.

Me neither. This isn't the first steam exlusive I skip, Half-Life 2 (and anything it spawned) and Empire: Total War (and squals) being the ones I remember off hand. I won't lose sleep over it now that the initial shock has passed. And Firaxis/2k will count the lost sales as caused by piracy anyway as there's absolutely no other reason for people to not buy the game so each of us must have pirated it :p:D

Maybe I'll have time to play some of the ~50 games I've bought but not yet played :lol: Total War Eras still sits in my closet unopened :p

I preordered the deluxe edition from Steam a week ago, the day it became available. I wouldn't have bought it anywhere else anyways.

I probably won't buy it immediately, and it's likely that I'll settle into a rather long waiting period looking at a number of things - price, reviews/CFC, stuff like that. Normally I'm a preorder junkie but day 0 DLC and required steamworks is enough for me to settle into waiting mode to see how it all pans out.

Marked as never which can change, but has about a 50/50 chance of not.

I just purchased CIV III and CIV IV. If history repeats itself.....

Im prob going to try it at a lan centre so I'll be kind of satisfied yet wont have to blow lots of moneys on a new computer. optomistically i guess 1+ years till i buy but yea i probably will cave sooner lol

I wont buy steam version but maybe when a boxed version comes out
but first renting from videotheque and try it out and play a demo
steam is bad and
"'ll wait about a year for significant price drop and/or multiple patches"
becuz every game makes patches and before that every game is horrible to play

I had a very bad experience with steam with Empire Total War (3 installs come on!!)

I will just download Civ 5 off **** as protest

the forum has a zero tolerance on piracy

I'll be repurchasing it when we're a little closer to release.

Unless Steam eats my baby of course.


:lol:

I really don't know why Steam is such a deal breaker for people. What I'm much more worried about is this DLC crap. If they prevent people from modding Babylon back in then I will just wait until Civ 5 Complete with all DLC included.

I've already pre-ordered the deluxe edition on Steam so I plan to be playing on day one! :)

Oh noes! They're going to burn me at the stake! Steam is the devil and I'm a disciple of its foul sorcery and witchcraft!!!

I preordered the deluxe edition from Steam a week ago, the day it became available. I wouldn't have bought it anywhere else anyways.

:lol:
From a Steam company employee?
Nice first post... bot.

:lol:
From a Steam company employee?
Nice first post... bot.

Nope.

I preordered the deluxe edition from Steam
my brother did the same :)

I have no problem with steam, or any other DRM.....I would be buying it on release day IF I had high speed internet. The tied to the game updates and patches are the sale killer for me, not because I don't like them, but because they are impossible on dialup.

Other (See my Post):
Probably a week or two after it comes out. I really don't know.

The tied to the game updates and patches are the sale killer for me, not because I don't like them, but because they are impossible on dialup.

I've been reading that there will be a 1 gig download from Steam when you first start your game up. That's going to exclude alot of people, myself included. Although I have broadband I use a wireless network with limited bandwidth, and 1 gig is way over my maximum allowed. That pretty much makes buying a retail version of the game a farce. You're not buying the game, just the installer. They may as well just go through Steam completely instead of trying to delude the public.

What's wrong with Steam?
I bought Empire Total War and haven't had any problems with it or anything.

And I will pay for extra stuff if it's released, like civs and things, as long as they interest me, and I feel that the 2 bucks is worth it. Why not? Someone had to program it and animate the leaderheads, and test it, balance it, etc. Why should there efforts be free?

Why do people believe they are owed anything?

What's wrong with Steam?


Nothing, as long as it's an option and not a requirement.

Lighten up guys or this will be closed. I've deleted the bickering posts. Do not repeat them.

Don't blame me. I'm trying my best to have a civil discussion, but I can only put up with so much abuse.

What's wrong with Steam?


That we are forced to use it.

I have no doubt it will be a very good game, but I'll buy it a few days after release date to wait and see if there are any major bugs or installation/performance issues.

I'll probably get it a few months or weeks after the release as there are many other games I want to get in that timeframe.

My fiance will buy it for me on the first day or release. :banana:
I am in a similar position., The family has already been asking when release date is and it is close enough to my birthday for their scheming purposes. They even know about Steam and the DLC and I don't have to make that purchase decision. I'd probably balk about the DLC. They don't have the same qualms.

So, I just have to wait and Civ 5 will happen. I love it.

I vowed 4 yrs ago to never do business with steam again...and I still haven't and won't.

Sure u have few problems when initially buying the game...wait a few months down the road when your PC glitches or u havn't played the game in a while and your game will not start. Steam will not help u get your version running agiain. If u need to re download you better have your credit card reciepts and info to send them, if u can even get ahold of anybody to help u that far.

Be very wary of company that you cannot telephone directly. You can send them e-mails endlessly and they will ignore u endlessly. Unless u decide to rebuy the game then they will help u of course...

If everyone boycotts steam no more games will be released via steam...simple solution.

I'll wait awhile, probably up to a year. Let the first patches come out, read the forums and see what folks say about the gameplay and how the Steam thing is working. And most importantly, let the mods get under the hood and see what they do.

I didn't get IV until Warlords and its first patch came out, and I don't feel I missed anything by not playing Vanilla.

I will be pre-ordering on June 2nd! :)

I don't know what I will do. I usually go by reputation when it comes to waiting for patches or not. CIV had issues with memory leaks but that was mostly performance, other bugs were small enough that they didn't bother me.
As such I might very well buy it on release day, I checked other though bc simply put, I don't plan that far ahead in time. It will depend on what I'm currently doing at the time, where I am and my economical situation.

I voted day of release because there was no option of buying within 2 or so weeks of release.

I know I shouldn't buy Civ V because Civ III was one of the worst purchases I ever made, same as MOO III. Then I had problems with Civ IV. You would think I have lernt my lesson for Civ V. I blame Civ III and MOO III more on myself and hyping the game up, and expecting so much that I was so disapointed with the game. Civ IV sucked because Firaxis lied, YES they lied to us about what the specs needed to play the game. So I will wait 2 weeks after release and see how smoothly the game plays for people. Also if I can't buy the game at the store, I will not get the game. From what I read there is no price difference from buying the game online without any paper box and manual and buying the game in a store with a paper box and manual. I thought getting things on the internet were suppose to be cheaper because of lack of paper. I see no difference at all.

I am a bit confused with all alot of people saying they will not buy the game because of steam. If I am reading these comments correctly, are these people saying you can only purchase Civ V on Steam only and not in stores like EB Games, Gamespot or Wallmart?

I'll wait for Steam to actually work on my computer.

It freezes when trying to update.

I contacted Steam support, but their advice didn't help. I didn't try all of it, as some was stupid (delete all anti-virus programs completely:confused:, not just turn them off temporarily).

Geoff.

I voted Other. I will wait, but not necessarily for patches or the price to come down. I will wait and see what the reaction is on this forum, both to the game itself and to running it through steam.

If people report game-breaking bugs then obviously I will wait for those to be patched.

I will also be interested to hear what the modding community think of it. I don't mean waiting until mods are actually released, I just would like to hear experienced modders views on what they think will be possible with civ5.

I am a bit confused with all alot of people saying they will not buy the game because of steam. If I am reading these comments correctly, are these people saying you can only purchase Civ V on Steam only and not in stores like EB Games, Gamespot or Wallmart?

People will not be buying the game because it will REQUIRE Steam be installed on your computer to use (and they do not like Steam/DRM/DLC/Various other reasons). You can still buy the game in a store, but you will HAVE to download and install Steam for it to work.

People will not be buying the game because it will REQUIRE Steam be installed on your computer to use (and they do not like Steam/DRM/DLC/Various other reasons). You can still buy the game in a store, but you will HAVE to download and install Steam for it to work.

You won't need to download steam. It'll be on the disk and it'll install along with all the other files required to run the game.

I think I'll wait 3-6 months to see what is the initial reception about the game, read forums and such and make up my mind whether the game deserves money or not. Civ 4 vanilla was a letdown for me for some reason, the Warlords and BtS versions were much better.

i just got civ 4 last year, so chances are that i won't be getting civ 5 for a few years, if at all, since i'm not liking some of the changes they've made. but yeah, i usually wait for stuff anyway. if lots of people on here like it, then i'll probably get it, like i said, in a few years.

I will wait for a steam'd version. thank you very much. that will be maybe 2~3 months later. :P

I just pre ordered it :)

I put that I'll buy it on release day, but I'll probably wait a few days. These things never seem to come out on a convenient day.

i'll probably wait a bit, have to see what my schedule is like and if I'll have time to even play the first few months

Other:

Finding about about compulsory Steam, and 0day DLC today has really dampened my excitement for this. I'm actually not sure what I am going to do now. :(

Probably I will wait a while after it comes out, and see what other people are saying about it before making a decision.

I'll wait until after I learn how to win C5 via strategy posts in the forums.

I imagine if Steam or whatever slows down those posts, it'll slow down my buying the game as well.

I don't know what I'll do. I'm not even going to say I'll buy the game until I see more information about it. At this point, I could go so far as to preorder it or go so far as to not even buy it. Depends on what I hear in the coming months.

I am a bit confused with all alot of people saying they will not buy the game because of steam. If I am reading these comments correctly, are these people saying you can only purchase Civ V on Steam only and not in stores like EB Games, Gamespot or Wallmart?

You won't need to download steam. It'll be on the disk and it'll install along with all the other files required to run the game.

However you will need to activate the game online and inevitably Steam will require an update at that point, which depending on the size of the update might be practically downloading the program anyway. Note that Steam itself is not particularly big - it would only be the slightest of issues if you're on a dial up or similar connection.

Not buying or preordering it without the minimum/recommended system requirements and the demo.

I'll buy it when i don't have to use steam.

You won't need to download steam. It'll be on the disk and it'll install along with all the other files required to run the game.

Ah, my mistake. you will have to still register it online with Steam to activate it though, correct?

:yumyum:I'll buy it on release day (my vote) unless I find a good deal for pre-order close to the date. :yumyum:

Steam's a downer I reckon but I'll bear with it. :(:bounce:

If it was another game I'd wait and get it cheap but civ's always been good and they won't stuff it up this time round either. And they're finally using hexs - I can't wait. :bounce:

[X] Other

I will pre-order it, I think, but not now, I will wait a lil bit more.

I'll wait a few months to see how the bugs shake out.

That should put the purchase into the holidays, so I'd expect the first batch of patches and a $10 price drop to coincide with the time of year that I finally get enough time to actually enjoy playing.