Personnaly, I love Age of Empires I, Rise of Rome Expansion.

I also had fun with AoE II, Dune 200, Emperor: Battle for Dune, Warcraft III, Dungeon Keeper (I & II), Stronghold, Cossacks (original & expansion)...

And yours? What's your favourite RTS game?

RTS? CIVIII PTW of course :lol: (OK, I havem't played it yet...)

Now, seriously, AOE-ROR exp and AOK:TC and Cossacks(+exp... )
Maybe Stronghold would be fine...

Not Dune: too low CIVs and only some campaigns with no random maps = short life time game :rolleyes:
NOT WARCRAT3!!! Stop it!

Ground Control, Battlezone II, metal fatigue...
And I was told Virtual Valerie 2 was a great strategy game too. In real time of course.

WarCraft II Battle.net edition of course.... though I haven't played any of the others mentioned except WC3 ;)
also I don't think there was too much strategy in Virtual Valerie 2 except playing one-handed

Originally posted by Portuguese
RTS? CIVIII PTW of course :lol: (OK, I havem't played it yet...)


You do realize Civ 3 isn't an RTS game right?

My favorite goes to Age of Empires 2.

Total Annihilation

age of empires II and the conquerers expansion are BY FAR the best ever

I still love AOE-RoR, a true classic.

Europa Universalis series and (future) clones

The Age of Empires games but I would also include Medieval total war because of its strong RTS element.

Starcraft set the RTS standard. I'm beginning to think blizzard just got lucky, War3 is an awful game to anyone who played SC competitively. The old school community is already dwindling, and age of myth doesn't seem to be catching on with many of the non AOKers.

To be fair, Starcraft wasn't really completely balanced until a year after its release. Its not been 6 months for war3, but with random item drops, mundane creeping patterns if you're playing to win, and the dumbed down micro, it doesn't really have much of a progaming future.

War3 was still a big success, it just won't have the staying power SC had.

I really liked both Total Annihilation+expansions for its flexibility and AOE2:TC.

Red alert 2 closely followed by Age of Empires 2

AOE 2, C&C Tiberian sun

Yea, I'm one of the few people who thinks tiberian sun was one of the better C&C games, so what are you gunna do about it? huh, huh ... HUH ... yea thought so, nothing :crazyeye: :p

Nothing touches Starcraft: Brood War.

AGE series

I never really got into RTS game very much, but the one that I liked the most was Conquest: Frontier Wars. It's also the only RTS game that I still occasionally play.

I play some "real-time" tactical games, but that doesn't really count.

Originally posted by No.Dice
Starcraft set the RTS standard. I'm beginning to think blizzard just got lucky, War3 is an awful game to anyone who played SC competitively. The old school community is already dwindling, and age of myth doesn't seem to be catching on with many of the non AOKers.

To be fair, Starcraft wasn't really completely balanced until a year after its release. Its not been 6 months for war3, but with random item drops, mundane creeping patterns if you're playing to win, and the dumbed down micro, it doesn't really have much of a progaming future.

War3 was still a big success, it just won't have the staying power SC had.
Warcaft 3 was a bit of a disappointment. Still it was the fastest selling game ever!!! 1 million copies in a week or so!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait for Starcraft 2. That will blow every gaming record out of the water. Blizzard hasn't announced anything about it, except that they plan to make it. Dummies are wasting their time with World of Warcraft and Starcraft Ghost. What's up with this going into the RTS world, with these two upcoming games. Get back to the RTS! :( :mad:

Aoge of Empires series absolutely, Conqueror expansion for Aoe2: Aok especially..

Originally posted by Furry Spatula
C&C Tiberian sun

Wow out of the C&C games, I would rate it as the worst... :p

All C&C games.
All AoE Games.
And I played a demo of Cossacks and enjoyed it very much,but don't own it yet.

I still play TA - great asa solo game, even better MP.

The mod community out there is awesome and keep the game fresh.

Empire Earth by far! NOT Star Trek Away Team. That is a garage sale junk game. Worth 10 bucks.

Emprire Earth gets my vote also.

StarCraft. End of debate. AoE is pretty good too.

Thats a very convincing arguement...

Empire Earth is closely behind Starcraft Brood War in my opinion.

I just got Star Trek: New Worlds, but only because EB was selling it for $5 at my local mall. I figured I had nothing to lose. I know it and all other Star Trek games got bad reviews, but I had nothing to lose. I like Star Trek enough to stick with it for when I need a break from Civ3 and Starcraft.

Empire Earth is closely behind Starcraft Brood War in my opinion.

I just got Star Trek: New Worlds, but only because EB was selling it for $5 at my local mall. I figured I had nothing to lose. I know it and all other Star Trek games got bad reviews, but I had nothing to lose. I like Star Trek enough to stick with it for when I need a break from Civ3 and Starcraft.

Dune II :)

I think there are a lot of very good RTS games :)

Empire Earth is probably one of my favourites, it is very epic :) Although it has a lot of shortcomings, I think the good by far outweighs the bad.

Starcraft Broodwars is another great game, I had a lot of fun playing multiplayer with that game.

Medieval: Total War is great as well, a sort of RTS, TBS hybrid, and it does it very well :)

Total Annihilation was excellent, and had very nice mods to keep it fresh.

And I would probably add C&C Tiberian sun. I played that a lot at school with my friends. It was also easy to mod (I love rules.ini :p)

Starcraft & BW exp. for sure! I agree with the earlier post: it set the standard. TA is ok too.

On Empire Earth, I found it a waste of € 45. It got even less strategy than the AoE games.

Time to undust the protoss units I think.

Shogun: Total War, only because i'm better at it than Medieval: Total War.

Starcraft all the way? arf arf, talking about that subtle game ;)
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/sotw3.jpg

I vote for AOE 2

The best RTS game to me would be. Empire Earth, Starwars Galatic BattleGrounds, Age of Kings, and the upcomming Rise of Nations :D.

Nice stack of battlecruisers Genghis!

Genghis how did you do that? How did you get more than 200 supply?

My guess is build em in human and posses (not the correct spellname) them in protoss. IIRC: merge two dark templars and you get the spell. Other option : a hack, pretty sure you can get +200 hacks

TA and it's various free fan made mods. TA and it's various free fan made MP meta games. TOTAL ANNIHILATION...

besides Herzog Zwei of course. :goodjob:

I must say Tiberian Dawn as well as Red Alert 2. Don't forget Warcraft II though.

Tiberian Dawn- Best Strategic developement

Warcraft II- Most Fun to Play

Red Alert 2- Best Improvements/ New Features

AoE2 of course!

Starcraft is old old old old old and fun. Every summer I have a sudden urge to play it, then I get bored of it after three weeks ;)

Id love to see Starcraft2, but Ill bet Blizzard wont make it until 2010. :rolleyes: I mean, theyre working on a Starcraft console game first person shooter that I heard of five years ago. I think Blizzard wasted WAY too much time and resources on WarIII, which from what I hear isnt too good...

Originally posted by Silverflame
I mean, theyre working on a Starcraft console game first person shooter that I heard of five years ago.

Yeah, its Starcraft: Ghost. They are barely making it, though: they have a handful of other companies doing the work for them. In the words of Penny Arcade..."Someone has to count the money." I think they should stick where they're good: RTSs.

CG

After having played, I say Age of Mythology.
It isn't much innovative, but mythology is so fascinating (expecially greek)

Favourite games when they came out:
-Warcraft 1 and 2 - it's so stupid now to see your orcs standing there stupidly exchanging hits with your enemy.

-Comand and Conquer (1) :D

-Age of Empires - especially rise of rome.

-Total Annihilation - classic

I think it would be a tie between Starcraft and Outpost 2. I really liked Outpost 2 for some reason but everyone else said it was aweful.

Stronghold is the only RTS that i really ejoyed playing.

I thought the rest were very weak.

Total Annihilation + TA: Core Contingency.

Even today it's still unrivaled for its engine and variety of units. TA's mass battles are second to none. And you can get some brilliant mods. All time best RTS imho.

Europa Universalis

Age of Mythology! At least its first impression. I'll have to see how long it lasts, but I've had the most fun with it so far (I've had it a week), at least compared to the AoE games (never played StarCraft).

CG

Oooh, you're missing out, CGannon64! I enjoyed SC even longer than WCIII or AoE. Have fun with AoM, though.

I think the best overall would be Lords of the Realm II, totally underrated game...now if only I could find the CD...

TOTAL ANNIHILATION!!!!

HAHAHAHA DIE PEEWEES YEILD TO MY ALMIGHTY KROGOTH
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :mwaha:

TA, definitely. Only problem was the AI- Either became too strong or too weak. Never tried MP though. Phantom Lord is right- Variety of units, MASSIVE battles, cool weapons and effects, and still runs great on my computer. Only problem is: I don't have it.

Stronghold is a close second.

Total Annihilation had some expansion packs which included AI by a guy mnamed Switek. It is called Switek's killer AI, and believe me, on hard, you get tank rushed in the first 3 minutes some times.

If you loved the AoE series then for the love of god go buy Cossacks and addons, very similar interface but SOOO much better and with a staggering 8000 unit limit (which was itself removed in the addon), formations, real tactics, damn the list just goes on. :) Only slight downside is the weak AI, definatley a favourite for multiplayer.

Kentonio

After some comments here I decided to look for bargain games (yes I'm a bargain hunter...) mentioned here. I found AoE-RoR for €7.99. Now I only have to figure out how to play and how to win. ;)
Looks like fun though!

Empire Earth

WARCRAFT III of course...
I can't wait for the expansion!

Number 1 is definitely Starcraft: Brood War. Red Alert 2 is pretty good, same goes for AoE 2. But they don't have anything on SC.

Although Ground Control 2 looks interesting...

I think #1 now would have to be Rise of Nations. It pretty much fixed everything that was wrong with AoE2 (like having to replant your farms every 5 freaking minutes) and added some cool new stuff that AoE2 didnt have, like national borders. Its a really sweet game.

I second that. I only have the demo, but the full version looks awesome. Only bad part is, it runs slow on my pc, even with the graphics lowered :(

Star Wars Rebellion.Totally underrated real time ultimate strategy game.They have upgraded this game with new characters,ships,ground forces,etc. at

http://www.swrebellion.com/

enjoy

Is that the Age of empires clone, where they just changed the unit names and then pretended that it was a whole new game?

"Dell19 Is that the Age of empires clone, where they just changed the unit names and then pretended that it was a whole new game?"

That is Force Commander, I would rather play AOE anyday then that game.Completely different game.I believe when it was released in Britain it had a different name then here in the states.
This game you have the whole galaxy to fight over with 200 planets.Put out by Lucas Arts.

http://www.lucasarts.com/products/rebellion/splash.htm

StarCraft, without a doubt.

Originally posted by Dell19
Is that the Age of empires clone, where they just changed the unit names and then pretended that it was a whole new game?

No, that would be Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds. I know because my brother has it. Its sort of sad, they didn't even put any new programming in it.

Originally posted by BobTheTerrible


No, that would be Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds. I know because my brother has it. Its sort of sad, they didn't even put any new programming in it.

Yep thats the one I was talking about but it does create the question, so what is Star Wars: Rebellion?

Starcraft, all the way.

Originally posted by Dell19
Yep thats the one I was talking about but it does create the question, so what is Star Wars: Rebellion?

Apparently it's a strategy game far different from GB. Beingofone posted a link above, and the game actually looks pretty cool.

Since the only RTS game I have played besides Civ III is StarCraft, I would have to say it is.

Dell 19 i know many people hated that game. I for one liked it. Ohwell. But Red Alert and The original was awsome aswell. I liked all of them. And I'm actually thinking I may reinstall them all after this weekend. I'm off to Vancouver Island for the weekend.

Are you talking about Star War Galactic Battlegrounds or another Red Alert games. Since I like the Age of Empires game then I would have technically liked SWGB but I saw a demo where it was almost exactly the same so I dislike it because a new game should be a new game especially when the next AOE game was a true step forward.

The best RTS should be Dune II of course :)
On the other hand there'll be a murder if anybody dare to say any Westwood RTS game, excepted the legendary C&C1. All the other games (red alert, C&C 2, Generals etc...) especially red alert were incredibly too unbalanced. Are you surprised that any winner would choose russians? mmm... Blizzard has alwas done almost perfectly balanced games (SC, War3)

Whoops. I think i should have been a bit more clear. I was reffering to the post you made after mine about Tiberian Sun. I thought that game was pretty dern good. But many people hated it. But overall the C&C franchise is the best RTS i think. I also do like AOE mind you that game had a helluva hard campaign, AOE and AOK.

1.Starcraft:Brood War(started the revolution, great multiplayer)
2. Diablo II(great game!!)
3.Command and Conquer Generals(Very fun, hard)
4.Age of Empires (if you are in the mood for history, when I am i just play civ)
5.Warcraft

Tiberian Sun didn't live up to the hipe and whilst it was a good game it didn't really live up to my expectations...

Lol, diablo II ;) Sure sure :D

Originally posted by RX2000
I think #1 now would have to be Rise of Nations. It pretty much fixed everything that was wrong with AoE2 (like having to replant your farms every 5 freaking minutes) and added some cool new stuff that AoE2 didnt have, like national borders. Its a really sweet game.

I third that. I also agree about Rebellion being a great game, the only problem being the amount of time needed to get enough resources to build really big fleets. :(

And of course I have to mention Starcraft. :)

@GhengisK - C&C: Tiberium Dawn (the first one) was great...


And so was Red Alert, Tiberian Sun, and Red Alert 2 :p

@china444 - Generals was fun, but I hope you were kidding when you said it was very hard. That game was insanely easy when compared to the others (IMO).

Originally posted by Junzi Nicuzn

@china444 - Generals was fun, but I hope you were kidding when you said it was very hard. That game was insanely easy when compared to the others (IMO).

:blush: Whoops! I meant Red alert. i agree, Generals is simple!

[i]Originally posted by GenghisK[i/]

lol, Diablo 2. :D Sure Sure

why? It is addictive, very replayable, and the internet version of it (Battlenet) is great!

And their are many different characters you can make, and customize with armor and weapons and rings....over 68 Billion different combintions! of weapons armor, rings and amulets, and boots and gloves

Originally posted by Junzi Nicuzn
@GhengisK - C&C: Tiberium Dawn (the first one) was great...


And so was Red Alert, Tiberian Sun, and Red Alert 2 :p

Bah everone his/her opinion. The fact is there though. On starcraft or war3, there are quite an equal amount of people playing each race. Red alert? mmm weird everybody I played chose USSR... :rolleyes:
I never said it was not great. I said about the balance, could do better.

I probably enjoyed Red Alert 2 the most out of all the ones I've played.

Balance is overrated. Makes it boring.

GenghisK
Red alert? mmm weird everybody I played chose USSR... :rolleyes:

Really? Weird. I hardly ever chose USSR. I played as Allies most of the time, and IIRC it didn't seem any harder the playing as the Soviets. Of course that was ages ago and I have the memory of a goldfish. :fish:

Red Alert 2 I have played recently, and it is unbalanced. But as thestonesfan said, balance is overrated. If I want to crush my opponets I chose Soviets (Kirov/Apocalypse rush), but if I want a challenge I choose Allies. A lot harder to rush with them, I need at least 20 Prism Tanks or 16 Harriers

Weird but true, that's all... all my friends are also USSR winners and allies loosers...

Of course, I have to mention WC3..
But if you want to know what I think is best, take a look at Bungie's Myth series. I was never that good at it, but some ppl are still keeping it alive, with their own servers, tournaments, etc. It's unlike most RTS games, in that it's 100% strategy and unit control, 0% teching/base construction/unit management. Which makes it a lot more fun, imo.

warcraft 2
c & c red alert
AoE games
Star Trek Armada 2
Sim City series.

Red alert i always played as allies. The Soviets had slow tanks, and would always get directly hit, compared to the allies smaller, but faster units. And the GPS from the tech center helped out a lot. So did the gap generator in MP games. Me and my buddies used to play each other online. I always smoked 'em. 2 barracks, 3 ore refineries, 3 war factories. Then a radar dome if i felt i needed it. my philosophy with that game: build what you'll need and use...now i'm just ranting..

Many series i haven't tried yet. Tropico looks like a funny game. I think i'll pick it up and play it in the winter, to remind me of the summer warmth.

I know its not released yet but Battlefield Command is looking bloody awesome!

http://www.codemasters.com/battlefieldcommand/uk/battlefieldcommand.php

Originally posted by thestonesfan
I probably enjoyed Red Alert 2 the most out of all the ones I've played.

Balance is overrated. Makes it boring.

huh? I can't quite follow your argument. take WC3 or Starcraft: the races are very balanced (meaning you can win against a more or less equal opponent no matter what the race), yet they are totally different to play, and you need different tactics to win - > makes it WAY more interesting and definately not boring, IMHO.

Someone mentioned Lords of The Realms 2 that game was great.

I don't really consider Europa Universalis real-time. I'd never play it online because I like games that end after 3 hours or so.

Bought all the Age of Games >played them, but for some reason get bored even though their great games. I guess it just comes down to who can click faster> not much strategy in that.

Quake CTF is real time strategy :P but others might disagree so my vote goes to the granddaddy of them all Populous.

Anyone who didn't say Europa Universalis has obviously not tried it yet ;)

Its not really an RTS though... Like what the last poster before you said.

I disagree though. It's a hybird...part RTS and part TBS. It plays like an RTS, but you can pause it. I've heard it refered to as a TBS with really short turns, but then again, that's true of all RTS games if you think about it.

The thing is that units cannot move just anywhere, they have to move to a new location and there is a fixed time to move between each province so whilst its not actually a TBS it feels like one.

Originally posted by GenghisK
All the other games (red alert, C&C 2, Generals etc...) especially red alert were incredibly too unbalanced. Are you surprised that any winner would choose russians?

True! Back when they had global rankings, the highest Allied player was ranked 13# in the world. The aircraft alone we enough to make the Soviets the most dominate faction. The expansion made the situation worse, with the addition of the Shock Trooper. Red Alert 2 was not very unbalanced however. All three sides had advantages. Soviets had most troops in the field at any given time. The Allies has most expensive, but better equiped troops. Yuri had the ultimate defense, but was very hard to attack with.

I've never played Age of Empires <rather new to the whole strategy game arena, besides the boardgames Risk, Axis and Allies, and Chess>, but I really enjoy Galactic Battlegrounds...

I don't like RTS but sometimes I take a part in multyplayers battles in our office (after work indeed :)).

Our favorite RTS was AgeOfEmpires but since Rise Of Nations have been released, we plays only in this game.

So I think RON is the best RTS. It can be normal RTS like WC2 but if you select "hard sciences" or so option it becomes the global strategy, like Civilization. :)

starcraft is fun. i also enjoy C&C Generals alot, but i cannot really judge it because i am new to the series

i have tried the rts part of Medieval: Total War, and it was really cool, i just perfer the tbs empire building part instead:goodjob:

Rome: Total War and Battlefield Command look to be neck and neck in my list of upcoming RTS games... Both have amazing graphics, amazing realism, and amazingly high system requirements (probably). (Which of course my comp can't handle) In Rome: Total War units actually battle each other! Instead of mindlessly hacking with their swords, they thrust, parry, use theirs shields, combine that with 10,000 fully 3D animated units on a battlefield, I'd like to see a comp that could handle that. RoN seems good, too from the demo, but that runs slow...

Originally posted by Kasperus
Europa Universalis series and (future) clones

I played Europa Universalis and did not liked it .
AOE The rise of rome was ok
C&C 1
warcraft I&II

Originally posted by No.Dice
Starcraft set the RTS standard. I'm beginning to think blizzard just got lucky, War3 is an awful game to anyone who played SC competitively. The old school community is already dwindling, and age of myth doesn't seem to be catching on with many of the non AOKers.

To be fair, Starcraft wasn't really completely balanced until a year after its release. Its not been 6 months for war3, but with random item drops, mundane creeping patterns if you're playing to win, and the dumbed down micro, it doesn't really have much of a progaming future.

War3 was still a big success, it just won't have the staying power SC had.
No.Dice speaks for me in this regard. Starcraft and Brood Wars are the penultimate RTS platform. I seriously wonder why Blizzard is wasting my valuable lifespan not crafting new scenarios, campaigns, and expansions for this masterpiece.

Originally posted by FearlessLeader2

No.Dice speaks for me in this regard. Starcraft and Brood Wars are the penultimate RTS platform. I seriously wonder why Blizzard is wasting my valuable lifespan not crafting new scenarios, campaigns, and expansions for this masterpiece.

or, better yet, a sequel:D

Tough to say for me. Starcraft: Broodwar was the best by far, but I just got WCIII a few weeks ago and so far I'd say it's a contender. I haven't played with the expansion yet, but I've heard it adds more strategy to the game, making it even a bit more fun (probably more like Starcraft, since many people seemed to prefer it).
Was not crazy for the AoE series at all. Way more civs, but they were all practically identical except for graphics and maybe one special unit. I like the variation in units and tactics that blizzard's games have, and I find it amazing that they manage to make them so different, yet keep them well balanced.

StarCraft is easily the best RTS game.

When it comes to balance and still difference between the Races, thats the best game ever.
When it comes to game design, this game beats all the other RTS's three times over.

And it's very good in SinglePlayer as well as MP.

I never played the game as much as many others though.

Originally posted by GenghisK
Weird but true, that's all... all my friends are also USSR winners and allies loosers... This is so true that I could glue my tongue to the wall if it turns out that most players played with the allies in MP.

I would have to say two of my favs are Warcraft II and C&C Tiberian Sun.

Originally posted by SoRHunter
Personnaly, I love Age of Empires I, Rise of Rome Expansion.
I also had fun with AoE II, Dune 200, Emperor: Battle for Dune, Warcraft III, Dungeon Keeper (I & II), Stronghold, Cossacks (original & expansion)...
And yours? What's your favourite RTS game?

Finally, a true AOE1 fan. I've been looking long and hard for you... Care for a game? :)

Finaly I played Starcraft! After several years from it's release (1997), it is still a great and addictive game. The campaign is just incredible.

Things better than AOE:
- the concept of the campaign;
- three races completly different from one another and with different playing styles;
- rally points;
- different units cost different population space.

Things worse than AOE:
- no random maps.

In the end, it's difficult to choose the best between these two games.

I think that aoe 2 sucks:king: [dance] :die: :band: :ninja: [pimp] :devil2: :tank:

Thankyou for that. I know its your first post but its usually nice if you actually put some reasoning behind your post. Like why you don't like it. Also just because there is a wide range of smilies, doesn't mean you have to use them all.

I think that Warcraft III rocks:king: [dance] :die: :band: :ninja: [pimp] :devil2: :tank:

;)
1st post.

I thought you had stopped spamming :p

sudden strike 2 ;)

Rise Of Nations right now
I enjoyed Age of series as well

RoN isnt really a true to form RTS. More of a hybrid it is.

Goodness...I have to CHOOSE? Ah what the hey...

Age of Empires series - love it, so easy to learn and can keep you occupied for hours. Great fun from both games and their expansions.

Shogun: Total War - just got back into it. Amazing battles, fun to backstab your neighbouring...allies. Medieval won't work, curse it, but I have heard great things about it...and let's not mention the upcoming Rome sequel ;)

Caesar 3 - My favourite of all the series. I prefer it to Sim City as well, for some reason - possibly because I actually understand how to play it.

And finally, for I don't think it has gotten a mention from anyone yet, but Homeworld could possibly be my favourite of all. A wonderful single-player storyline, gorgeous visuals (even today, I'd argue) and it even worked on my run-by-hamsters-on-wheels computer back when it was first released. A marvel of a game.

Caesar 3 was just too strange for me. Age was good because of the user-made campaigns, many of which were better then the pre-packaged ones.

Trouble with Caesar 3 is that you can spend all the time in the world building up a nice fine city, but then when one thing starts to go wrong, it can easily cause a catacylsmic chain of events that destroys you. It requires a lot more patience than most RTS games.

Yes, and I lack that patience.

I also lack that patience so i think war 3 frozen throne is the best.:vomit:

Warcraft - 3

And I have that patience. ;)

I didn't like warcraft 3 much. Maybe it was just my sucky graphics card, or maybe I just like having much larger armies than war3 allows. :)



(500 posts! :cool: )

What you just said proved you totally don't understand war3 philosophy. Bah, if you prefer games like total a., where you just build 500 units and send them to slaughtery, then it's your right. Now just keep in mind that War3 is focusing on another gameplay based on absolute micromanagement. So let's compare apples to apples, but not apples to pears. You just can't compare MTW to Empire Earth, nor compare RON to War3. Although they're all called RTS but actually War3 belongs to RTT. T for tactics, and not strategy. Capice.

I wasn't comparing anything. War3 isn't my style because I like larger armies, not as in tank rushing style, but not neccesarily way larger either (like the total war games), but large enough to give the feel of an immense battle going on. I never seemed to have got that from war3. Maybe I'll give war3 another go when I get an decent graphics card.

btw, tactics and strategy are basically the same imho. Afterall, you can't really have one without the other can you? You may have the tactics, but if you don't implement them properly (a strategy), they are useless.

Once again wrong, and wrong. Tactics and strategy and fundamentally different. Just search on a dictionnary, you'll see why. Strategy is a larger scale of management. Maybe you cannot have one without the other one, but that doesn't mean they're the same! You can't have algebra without mathematics, so are algebra and mathematics the same? mmm....

PS: you can also ask a general, or a military person ;)

Thats true I suppose. Maybe my brain wasn't working properly. :crazyeye: I think that what I was trying to point out is that like tactics/strategy on a larger scale than war3 can give me. Which of course does not make war3 a bad game, its just not my prefered type of game.

Starcraft. Warcraft 3 and F T

Everything is clear now, young admiral :)

Dune II, Shogun Total War.

was Shogun better than MTW?

srry, dp

I don't play TBS games much as I'm not great at constant fast action and manipulations but the one TBS with a deep strategic focus is Europa Universalis II which I would recommend to all lovers of historical strategy games.

as a RTS vet for 9 years, my crown goes to a few titles depending on when they were made:

95-98: Red Alert, Starcraft
98-00: AOK, The Conquerors
01-03: Warcraft III, Frozen throne

I love
1.Age of empires :the conquerors
2.Rise of Nations
3.Europa Universalis 2

why is there 2 thread for this.

as i mentioned in other thread

when u guys are nominating the best game what are u basing on?

on the game u enjoyed the most (which has no effect on what other thinks, so therefore everyone would have different #1s)

or on the game that was the most popular

or the game that was designed the best in gameplay strategy element glitches etc.

If it is the 3rd one, i think everyone should agree stracraft is it. maybe 2nd one too.

Red alert had horribly broken gameplay. It isnt good by that standard.

Starcraft and Sid Meier's Gettysburg are my favorites.

Starcraft!!

Originally posted by thestonesfan
I probably enjoyed Red Alert 2 the most out of all the ones I've played.

Balance is overrated. Makes it boring.

dumbest thing i ever heard...

When im taking full advantage of imbalances in games and you are constantly losing because of this, lets see if u would say if that is fun...

Originally posted by NetGear
dumbest thing i ever heard...

When im taking full advantage of imbalances in games and you are constantly losing because of this, lets see if u would say if that is fun...

You lost at it so you hate it? Fair enough, I suppose.

I never played MP too much, but when I did, it was fun.

But what imbalances bother you so much? Do you think the Prism Tanks are too good?

Age of Empires II: Age of Kings and the Conquerors Expainsion
Star Trek Armada 2

I want to try Empires: Dawn of the Modern World..is that a good game..thinking about getting it, just want to see what people think about it...

Cossacks: European Wars (including the expansions) was and is the best.

Starcraft is good, too.

Let's see...
A list of my favorite RTS games (unordered):
- Starcraft: Brood War
- Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
- Red Alert
- Age of Empires II: The Conquerors Expansion
- Homeworld

Out of those I prefer Starcraft and Warcraft III (with expansions). It's just my taste.

Age of Empires 2 and Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds.

You lost at it so you hate it? Fair enough, I suppose.

I never played MP too much, but when I did, it was fun.

But what imbalances bother you so much? Do you think the Prism Tanks are too good?

Why would I be the one losing if I am aware of imbalances. I'd be the one abusing those arent I?

It wouldnt be fun for those who arent aware of it, if they eevr played ppl that whored the tactics.

and if everyone eventually knows the abusable tactics, game gets reduced to practicing those broken elements in the game. And game gets boring. thats what i meant.

You cant compete with players that use only the best tactic when game is imbalanced.

so lucky for u u didnt play anyone too good, but if u did, it would have been boring just losing all the time just because game is designed crappy now wouldnt it?