Please place imput on build queues for the province of Taliesin here. Thanks

Fionn

Nothing specific at this time, just a note that the governors will need to work closely together to coordinate their build queues for the overall benefit of Fanatika.

Fionn
Congratulations on your appointment as governor from the Cartographic Office. I would remind you that you are eligible for City Naming rights, but you already knew that. :)

Libraries! Many of the cities in this province are captured and some are near abe. We need to boost culture.

we also need to up our military, as we are weaker than japan!

Congratulations, governor. Your province just increased by 2 cities. Palanthus and Padmativa were founded this chat turn. They have been queued with a spearman in each. I would recommend queues of spearman, library, temple in Padmativa and spearman, library, harbor in Palanthus.

I agree with disorganizer. We are critically short of spearmen and horsemen overall.

I agree with Shaitan's proposed queues for Padmativa and Palanthus. We get strong culture footing, but not at the expense of needed defenses.

City Build Queue

Morgana Harbor [c], Horseman [6], Spearman [4], Horseman [6]
Strider's Haven Spearman [c], Barracks [10], Horseman [15]
Penguin Spearman [c], Spearman [10], Horseman [15]
Dacula Keep Current Queue (library, spearman, horseman, switch barracks to spearman or horseman whichever the military leader decides)
The Burrow Keep Current Queue (library, speaman and switch barracks to spearman or horseman whichever the military leade decides)
Palanthus Keep Current Queue (spearman 18)
Padmativa Keep Current Queue (spearman 18)

In Palanthus move the worker in the fields onto a wheat tile so the city grows in 6 turns rather than 8

Looks good Fionn :). A harbor in Morgana would certanly attract some trade deals :).

Perhaps swords are more approitate in Morgana...

I disagree, octavian... it will really help to have a harbor

City Build Queue

Morgana Harbor [c], Horseman [6], Spearman [4], Horseman [6]
Strider's Haven Spearman [c], Barracks [10], Horseman [15]
Penguin Spearman [c], Spearman [10], Horseman [15]
Dacula Keep Current Queue (library, spearman, horseman,
switch barracks to spearman or horseman
whichever the military leader decides)
The Burrow Keep Current Queue (library, speaman and switch
barracks to spearman or horseman whichever
the military leade decides)
Palanthus Keep Current Queue (spearman 18)
Padmativa Keep Current Queue (spearman 18)

In Palanthus move the worker in the fields onto a wheat tile so the
city grows in 6 turns rather than 8

That should be better aligned fionn :)

gracias mi amigo

i give ok for the morgana queue. will you regularly open queue discussion or do i have to open discussion for the city itself after each chat?

As mayor of Penguin, i dont mind the horsemen. Just remember to put a library in at some time.

just one thing: the next spearman should be garrisoned in morgana to increase happyness...

We should also think about building Libraries after the construction of the Military Units :).

yes. i will open a apropriate discussion thread after this chat and as soon as i know whether my governor will do it for the whole province or whether i shall do it for morgana only.

May I ask for a Harbor, Marketplace and Library in Penguin. Penguin is one of two main links to the inner sea. I feel with a harbor there, we can do trading deals.
Feel, wait, know. It is unblocked costal terrain. Mr. Governor, as Mayor of Penguin, I urge you to place a harbor in Penguin after the garrison is done, followed by a library.

I think our immediate military needs may need to take precedence over the infrastructure construction.

Shaitan: Penguin is a slow producer, which is not anyware near the battle ground. It would be better to let the larger cities deal with our weapons, since they can afford it. Let us grow, and we will then be able to support a militia.
Also- I have reason to believe that some other nations would be interested in Fanatikan gold for their luxuries, and Penguin would be a perfect middle man.

I would agree to that Shaitan. We should be building Spearmen and other Military Units to send to the front lines :).
We should also let the city of Penguin mature before commiting to to build military units :).

i disagree. until we are at war, we build internal structures. We cannot let us be just military and let our cities fall by culture flipping

thank you, governor. Harobr/Library or Library/Harbor

library first and then hardbor after the military units already in the queue are built so we can protect the city as well

I would say have the citires build libraries to help with both the culture and Science and the Coastal Cities build Harbors once they are done with there libraries :).

The horsemen are not for protection. They are for the military, which as I have voiced is not that necessary.

im also predicting we will be at war again by the time that horseman will come into production

Suggestion: For these far off cities it may be better to build a temple before a library. Kicking these corruption pits into WLTK day should be a primary goal.

I would strongly suggest that we build Libraries in the provance. We play as the offspring of the Germans, We basicly have the same traits as them (Militaristic, and Scientific). I have found out that Scientific Civs gets to build Sicentific improvements at a cheaper cost. Buy Building a Library we would Help the Science Department and we would also have a Cheap Culture improvement generating Culture :).

I would prefer infrastructure for the time being. Perhaps later, after a library or temple in a few cities, we should focus on military. A mix of the the two would be more desirable.

We're being called to general war. Military really must be the priority at this time.

We could build the Libraries later. Though my consern is our cities that are touching the American cities near by.

Though I agree with shaitan on the part that the Military needs priority. But we would also need to prevent culture flips in our border cities.

Here is my new suggestion. Build Military units (Horsemen and Spearmen). For the Cities with the greatest culture flip risk, have them build Libraries.

Dacula needs attention now!

It currently has 1 Happy, 2 Content, and 1 Unhappy citizens. It will grow in six (6) turns which will likely result in rioting. It is currently producing a library which will provide good culture for border expansion, but will not prevent the city from rioting.

Coincidentally, the settler in Eklektochtitlan looks like it may get redirected to the dyes down south. The plan is to switch production in Eklektochtitlan to a settler for settling the incense fields. However, this will leave a large gap between Eklektochtitlan and the new "dye" city.

I propose that we immediately switch the production in Dacula to a settler for settling the incense fields. This will allow the new settler in Eklektochtitlan to settle further to the south, linking the "dye" city with the rest of our nation. It will also prevent Dacula from rioting. If we switch this production immediately, we will be able to produce the settler next turn with no loss of shields.

Of course, there may be a better solution, but no matter what is done, it should be done sooner rather than later when our city is on fire!

An interesting plan, one that has my support. I guess I missed Dacula when I was looking at the save...

Hmm. Dracula is a tough one. Hmm. I would suggest having a Citizen be turned into an entertainer. If that does not work then we would have to build another settler.

Forty's plan is well thought out and very workable. Instead of another entertainer we get another city.

2 before the next chat shall we keep the current queues from last threads instructions since not much has changed or should we change a few things?

Yes. Penguin still lacks a harbor. Mr. Governor, I implore you to build a harbor in Penguin. It is connected and it is ready to recieve. Just build it and ti will be done.

i posted a "direction" poll for morgana queues after the current queue finished.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37006

Here is a discussion thread for the queues of Morgana:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37148

Until this queue suffices, i would like to give the military department temporary controll over the queue.

A horseman-production would be fine, switched to more powerful units later on.

The Pikeman in the queue should be garrisoned in morgana to produce a WLTKD.

Fionn/CivGeneral: I just had a chance to look at the save, and I have recommended in the Turn Chat thread that Padmativa and The Burrow build libraries as soon as their Pikemen are done. They are under cultural pressure from America and could use the boost to their own culture.

Padma
Culture Minister

Originally posted by Padma
Fionn/CivGeneral: I just had a chance to look at the save, and I have recommended in the Turn Chat thread that Padmativa and The Burrow build libraries as soon as their Pikemen are done. They are under cultural pressure from America and could use the boost to their own culture.

Padma
Culture Minister

Pamda,

I too have conserns about the city of The Burrow and the city of Padmativa. I would recomend that once a pikemen has been built that we should build a library to counter the potential threat of a Culture flip by the American. The Library will do us good by doing two things. One, The Library will help our science efforts and Second will keep the Culture flip at bay. I shall grant the approval via the Turn Instructions Thread due because of the Early Bird Turn Chats.

Thanks for your consern,
Moff CivGeneral, Lt Govenor of Taliesin