View Full Version : I would let Denzel Washington stick it in me!


JohnRM
May 29, 2010, 01:44 PM
Okay, jk, but seriously he is the best actor ever!

Who is yours?

Shekwan
May 29, 2010, 02:33 PM
Either Johnny Depp or Russell Crowe.

Or a Classic. Arnie.

Traitorfish
May 29, 2010, 04:10 PM
I'm going to go for the mildly obscure here, and say Peter Stormare. You've probably never heard of him, but chances are that you've seen him somewhere (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001780/). He plays a good sleazy European.

scherbchen
May 29, 2010, 05:15 PM
I am always bothered by the fact that most everyone goes for actor first and actress second. the first may be gouty, fat, old, ugly as long as they can act. the latter are pretty and sexy first of all and a vote for good acting comes once for every 10 votes cast for men. makes all of us seem somewhat bi-curious tbh. not a bad thing but you never see somebody going apepoo over Helen Mirren.

having said that I'd go for Martin Sheen, David Tennant and Steven Weber.

Traitorfish
May 29, 2010, 05:29 PM
I am always bothered by the fact that most everyone goes for actor first and actress second. the first may be gouty, fat, old, ugly as long as they can act. the latter are pretty and sexy first of all and a vote for good acting comes once for every 10 votes cast for men. makes all of us seem somewhat bi-curious tbh. not a bad thing but you never see somebody going apepoo over Helen Mirren.
True, but, in all fairness, you often have to work with what Hollywood chooses to inflict upon you, and, in the case of women, looks seem to be as important as talent. As much as anything else, the very fact that this bias exists means that most women who get into acting tend to be at least somewhat attractive, so there simply aren't that many ugly female actors around to chose from in the first place. Vicious cycle there, sadly.

JohnRM
May 29, 2010, 08:25 PM
I don't think that I chose an 'actor' because of any bi-curious nonsense. It is probably because when I watch movies, I live a fantasy in a way and my favorite characters are people that I want to be rather than people I want to bang. I like people like Denzel Washington and Bruce Willis, because they play characters whom I'd like to be, in real life.

Cutlass
May 29, 2010, 08:29 PM
On the other hand, I pay a great deal less attention to actors than actresses... :)

classical_hero
May 30, 2010, 12:57 AM
Samuel L Jackson is a fine actor and has been in many good movies.

Lord Baal
May 30, 2010, 02:52 AM
Samuel L Jackson is a fine actor and has been in many good movies.
"PULP FICTION! THAT WAS A GOOD ONE!"

Seriously, Denzel is very likely my favourite current actor. I'm also quite partial to Michael Caine - when he cares about the role - John Malkovitch and Kevin Spacey. as for actresses, Annette Benning and Julia Stiles are quite talented.

classical_hero
May 30, 2010, 05:46 AM
"It's a tasty Cheeseburger."

warpus
May 30, 2010, 08:27 PM
I'm not sure, maybe Edward Norton or Steve Buscemi

nc-1701
May 30, 2010, 09:30 PM
Never figured out what was so great about Denzel Washington, I always find him boring and dry.

Will Smith is my favorite actor hands down, he's just awesome.

Glassfan
May 30, 2010, 09:39 PM
I'd like to mention the Kiwi actor Martin Csokas. When he played Celeborn in LOTR, he had that odd, slowspeak thing going. But now that I've seen him elsewhere - Kingdom of Heaven, Bourne Supremacy, etc. - I see that's just how he talks. He plays a pretty good bad guy.

I wouldn't let him stick it in me, though.

Maybe Angelina Jolie.

Lord Baal
May 30, 2010, 11:46 PM
"It's a tasty Cheeseburger."
"What do they call a Whopper?"

Samuel Jackson may very well be the most quotable actor of all time, I'll give him that.

Love
May 31, 2010, 12:16 AM
Jack Nicholson.

warpus
May 31, 2010, 06:13 PM
Jack Nicholson.

Good one, I forgot about him.

warpus
May 31, 2010, 06:15 PM
Will Smith is my favorite actor hands down, he's just awesome.

I don't get people who say that. Doesn't Will Smith pretty much play the same guy in every movie he stars in?

I guess if you're into that sort of character, then he can be your favourite, but we're talking about the best actor.. and a good actor should have a wide range of characters he can portray. Will Smith appears to have a really limited range in that regard.

Cutlass
May 31, 2010, 06:56 PM
I don't know that Will Smith has a limited range so much as preferred role that he goes for. His early work on Fresh Prince was nothing like what he's done in the movies. I once heard an interview with him where he said when he was breaking into movies that he looked around, and movies with a lot of special effects tend to make a lot of money. So he targeted that type of movie for himself. Within that type of movie, I don't think he was playing the same character. But there were certainly similarities in a number of them.

scherbchen
May 31, 2010, 08:36 PM
I don't get people who say that. Doesn't Will Smith pretty much play the same guy in every movie he stars in?

I guess if you're into that sort of character, then he can be your favourite, but we're talking about the best actor.. and a good actor should have a wide range of characters he can portray. Will Smith appears to have a really limited range in that regard.

well there is a difference between playing one character and playing one character very well. who is to say that having a wide range is required of a good actor? you should ask about which actor is the most versatile then.

Alan Rickman is certainly a fine and very enjoyable actor but he only gets to play villains most of the time in big movies. I am pretty certain he can do more than that but you have to blame his agent, the producers and the audience's expections as well. now he makes a good villain. he gets casted as a villain again and again because he makes a good villain. is there a magic threshhold at which his acting capacities dissolve?

it is like saying Luc Besson is a bad actor because he only ever plays French characters.

Love
Jun 01, 2010, 04:01 AM
Brad Pitt is also a good actor.

I also have to nominate Clint Eastwood for being so goddamn cool.

warpus
Jun 01, 2010, 12:31 PM
I don't know that Will Smith has a limited range so much as preferred role that he goes for. His early work on Fresh Prince was nothing like what he's done in the movies. I once heard an interview with him where he said when he was breaking into movies that he looked around, and movies with a lot of special effects tend to make a lot of money. So he targeted that type of movie for himself. Within that type of movie, I don't think he was playing the same character. But there were certainly similarities in a number of them.

Let me put it this way, he hasn't proved (to me) that he is capable of playing a wide range of characters. So either he's not capable of it, or he just hasn't done it. Either way, we just don't know.

well there is a difference between playing one character and playing one character very well. who is to say that having a wide range is required of a good actor? you should ask about which actor is the most versatile then.

Acting is an art, right? I would rank a painter who can paint in a wide variety of styles well far higher than one who is limited to one particular style. Same goes for authors, musicians, etc. It just means that they are more talented at their craft.

it is like saying Luc Besson is a bad actor because he only ever plays French characters.

I'm not saying that people who get typecast are bad actors, just that they can't (in my eyes) compete with actors who have proven that they are able to play a wide variety of differing characters.

Obviously Michael Cera is amazing at playing an awkward teenager; that doesn't make him a bad actor, neither does it make him an amazing actor, comparable with the best. (Maybe he would be, who knows, he keeps playing the same character over and over, so we just do'nt know yet)

Krill
Jun 01, 2010, 01:17 PM
"what do they call a whopper big mac?"

ftfy.

Love
Jun 01, 2010, 01:52 PM
Le Big Mac.

Ice_Tyrant
Jun 01, 2010, 02:04 PM
I'm a big fan of Alan Alda.

Azale
Jun 01, 2010, 05:24 PM
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/22960859/Will+Smith+willsmith.jpg
http://quantumdragon.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/clint-eastwood-photograph-c12149548.jpeg
http://content8.flixster.com/photo/11/84/12/11841226_gal.jpg
http://www.celebrityheights.net/f/harrison-ford/image.jpg

Any QUESTIONS?!

Disgustipated
Jun 02, 2010, 09:39 AM
Brad Pitt is also a good actor.

I also have to nominate Clint Eastwood for being so goddamn cool.

good choice (on the cool factor)

Traitorfish
Jun 02, 2010, 01:58 PM
Acting is an art, right? I would rank a painter who can paint in a wide variety of styles well far higher than one who is limited to one particular style. Same goes for authors, musicians, etc. It just means that they are more talented at their craft.
That's a pretty goofy measure of value. Surely, competence is worth more than mere variety; depth of skill, you might say, over breadth? Variety has it's place, certainly, but honing one's craft is at least as important, if not more so. "Talent" is a largely abstract notion, after all, and worth little unless it is realised- an individual can be a naturally excellent musician, but that's worth very little if they turn it to playing fifty different instruments in a very mediocre manner, or even a single instrument in fifty mediocre styles. "Jack of all trades, master of none", as the expression goes.

nc-1701
Jun 02, 2010, 07:07 PM
I don't get people who say that. Doesn't Will Smith pretty much play the same guy in every movie he stars in?

I guess if you're into that sort of character, then he can be your favourite, but we're talking about the best actor.. and a good actor should have a wide range of characters he can portray. Will Smith appears to have a really limited range in that regard.

Will Smith has done a good bit of variety, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Seven Pounds, and I Am Legend all had utterly different characters.

I general though I don't care for variety so much as actors portraying characters I like, can identify with, or admire in some way. I have never seen Denzel Washington play one of those characters, and the movies of his I've seen (American Gangster and Facing the Giants are the first to come to mind) had him playing boring characters I couldn't connect with at all.

Another actor I really like a lot is Richard Dean Anderson, though he definitely fits into the same character every time mold. Also Tony Jaa is really good within the particularly narrow character he plays...

scherbchen
Jun 02, 2010, 07:47 PM
sorry to barge in again but why would you want to/need to identify with a character?

can we all agree that Jodie Foster did a splendid job in The Accused? now I can't identify with a raped woman. nor can I identify with her portrayal of a child prostitute in Taxi Driver. or being a feral child in Nell or etc etc... I still think that there was some very good acting there. I did not particularly like any of those characters either though I did admire them and got caught up in the story which is 30% direction 30% script and 40% acting imho.

I did not want to be her, did not want to see the movie, did not like the premise but I bought the whole schtick. that, for me, is acting. it is very much like a retail job.

warpus
Jun 03, 2010, 04:31 PM
I dunno, every single Will Smith character has the same mannerisms, from what I've seen. He's good, sure.

Lord Baal
Jun 05, 2010, 02:39 AM
ftfy.
Jules asks Vincent "What do they call a Whopper?" after he asks about Big Macs. Vincent answers "I don't know, I didn't go into Burger King."

classical_hero
Jun 05, 2010, 10:27 AM
Why don't we just quote that whole scene?

Love
Jun 05, 2010, 10:32 AM
Snipped for language...

This scene?

classical_hero
Jun 05, 2010, 10:44 AM
Of course.
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Shekwan
Jun 05, 2010, 11:05 AM
Any QUESTIONS?!

Jeff Goldblum?

I dunno, every single Will Smith character has the same mannerisms, from what I've seen. He's good, sure.

Yes.

Wild Wild West - Sassy Will Smith is a cowboy
Independence Day - Sassy Will Smith is a Fighter Pilot
Men In Black - Sassy Will Smith is a government agent (with aliens)
Seven Pounds - Serious Will Smith is going to die
Legend of Bagger Vance - Serious Will Smith plays golf

Haven't seen The Pursuit of Happyness so maybe thats a unique turn for Serious Will.

Lord Baal
Jun 05, 2010, 06:37 PM
This scene?
Is it sad that I could actually quote that whole scene verbatim before you posted it?

classical_hero
Jun 05, 2010, 07:33 PM
No, it is not, since it is such a good scene. I think Pulp fiction has to be one of the most quotable films of all time.

Azale
Jun 06, 2010, 02:26 PM
Jeff Goldblum?

Indeed.


Yes.

Wild Wild West - Sassy Will Smith is a cowboy
Independence Day - Sassy Will Smith is a Fighter Pilot
Men In Black - Sassy Will Smith is a government agent (with aliens)
Seven Pounds - Serious Will Smith is going to die
Legend of Bagger Vance - Serious Will Smith plays golf

Haven't seen The Pursuit of Happyness so maybe thats a unique turn for Serious Will.

I Am Legend - Serious Will Smith is the last man on Earth.
I, Robot - Sassy Will Smith doesn't like robots.
Enemy of the State - Serious Will Smith is running from "the man".
Hancock - Serious Will Smith is a superhero.

Quackers
Jun 06, 2010, 02:31 PM
Christian Bale

http://i48.tinypic.com/2rzuk90.jpg

Plotinus
Jun 07, 2010, 05:22 AM
I Am Legend - Serious Will Smith is the last man on Earth.
I, Robot - Sassy Will Smith doesn't like robots.
Enemy of the State - Serious Will Smith is running from "the man".
Hancock - Serious Will Smith is a superhero.

Oh, harsh. He's got a serious side in I, Robot, while being mainly sassy, and is quite sassy in Hancock, while being mainly serious. See, Will Smith can combine the sassiness and the seriousness when necessary to create a whole range of complex and quite different characters.

I'm being a little bit unfair. He was very good in I am legend.

Having a limited range does not, in itself, make someone a bad actor. But it surely does prevent them from being as good as an actor who has similar ability but a wider range. Just as being able to play only one style of music doesn't make someone a bad musician, but someone who can play more is better. Of course, there are limited ranges and then there are limited ranges. Will Smith may be limited, but he's not as limited as (say) Vin Diesel. And even within their ranges, Smith is obviously much better than Diesel.

Don't forget, too, that sometimes actors choose to play within a limited range but are capable of quite different things. Look at Michael Caine in the original Sleuth as an example of this.

Azale
Jun 07, 2010, 10:36 AM
Oh, I know, but I was just adding onto the Will Smith movie list that Shekwan began. I love me some Will Smith.

I have never seen Ali, but I have heard that it was his most serious attempt at character transformation. Serious Will Smith is a boxer :p