This is my first unit, the soviet type 941 Typhoon SSBN

I found an error in the Fidget file, so have uploaded a new one, if you downloaded the old one, please download this one instead

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/typhoon_corrected_Fidget.zip

hmmm looks like the atachment aint working anybody knowing why

can you post a preview? Thanks.

i dont know how to do it, im terrebly sorry

If you fix the link, I'll d/l it and do a preview

Download Link (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/typhoon.zip) should work.

GIDustin

Originally posted by zulu9812
If you fix the link, I'll d/l it and do a preview

i think it works now

im sorry everybody im a new user of the internet

Thanks GIDustin

No Problem :)

GIDustin

WOW!!!!! THAT IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!! Good job! :D

WONDERFULL :eek: :eek: :eek:

Hey! Great sub! Here's the default preview (the death and attack were both too large to attach):

Looks like I can use this Sub as a Boomer :D

Originally posted by CivGeneral
Looks like I can use this Sub as a Boomer :D

It is a Boomer :) the largest Submarine Ever Built !!!

Spasibo, Akula !!!!!! :scan:

:eek: :eek: That is SOO good! :goodjob: ... maybe we can see some missiles/ICBMs go off in a later alternative version??? :D

hehe- someone should record the Hunt For Red October theme and add a bit as a victory wave ;)

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TYPHOON (Project 941) Akula (Rus. = Shark)

During the Cold War the Typhoon submarines prowled the waters of the North Atlantic. These submarines do not have to submerge or go to sea to launch their long-range missiles. They are able to do so tied up at their docks. The Typhoon is the world’s largest submarine and was one of the most feared weapons of the Cold War. Each submarine is capable of carrying twenty long-range ballistic missiles with up to 200 nuclear warheads that were once aimed at the United States.

The design of the Typhoon submarine is multi-hulled and bears resemblance to a catamaran. The submarine has two separate pressure hulls with a diameter of 7.2 m each, five inner habitable hulls and 19 compartments. The pressure hulls are arranged parallel to each other and symmetrical to a centerplane. The missile compartment is arranged in the upper part of the bow between the pressure hulls. Both hulls and all compartments are connected by transitions. The pressure hulls, the centerplane and the torpedo compartment are made of titanium and the outer light hull is made of steel. A protected module, comprising the main control room and electronic equipment compartment, is arranged behind the missile silos above the main hulls in a centerplane under the guard of retractable devices.

The submarine's design includes features to enable it to both travel under ice and for ice-breaking. It has an advanced stern fin with horizontal hydroplane fitted after the screws. The nose horizontal hydroplanes are in the bow section and are retractable into the hull. The retractable systems include two periscopes (one for the commander and one for general use), radio sextant, radar, radio communications, navigation and direction-finder masts. They are housed within the sail guard. The sail and sail guard have a reinforced rounded cover for ice-breaking.

The submarine is equipped with the D-19 launch system with 20 solid-fuel propellant R-39 missiles which have a range of up to 10,000 km. They are arranged in silos in two rows in front of the sail between the main hulls. The Typhoon has an automated torpedo and missile loading system including 6 torpedo tubes with calibres of 650 and 533 mm.

In January 2000 it was reported that three of six Russian Typhoon-class submarines would remain in active operation to test the new Bark-class strategic missiles, contrary to both the plans of the Co-operative Threat Reduction program and reports that Bark-class missiles had been cancelled due to design failures. The Russian Navy reportedly believes that 12 strategic nuclear submarines with ballistic missiles represent the minimum necessary force structure. According to media reports a classified presidential decree of 04 March 2000 established this force goal for the period through 2010.

941 PICTURES !!! (http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/fleet/russian/941.htm)
MORE Pics and Text (above taken from here) (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/slbm/941.htm)

GREAT JOB AKULA!!! im gonna put it in my game ASAP!

Very nice! :goodjob:

Im wery glad you all like it

And thanks for the preview Zulu9812

Veery nice..can't wait to see it in game

Excellent unit.
Thank you.
I hope we will see more units from you.

wonderful looking unit.

Akula plz check your private messages.

Thanks

nice sub akula..

now can you make an Akula Class Russian Sub :)

Could we see a comparison of it next to the Civ3 sub?

Originally posted by sealman
nice sub akula..

now can you make an Akula Class Russian Sub :)

I guess im around 70% finished on that one, after that, i`ll do a Kirov Battlecruiser

Im sorry Kal-el i do not know how to do that Im as mentioned before, new at useing the internet

Akula,s Typhoon



Smoking mirror,s



CivIII Nuke Sub




CivIII Standard Sub

Originally posted by Akula
Im sorry Kal-el i do not know how to do that Im as mentioned before, new at useing the internet

Take a screenshot from the game of your Typhoon next to the regular nuke sub. That way everyone can see the difference in size and design.

Stainz, your previews didn't show up. :(

Here's a comparison.

Originally posted by Kal-el
Stainz, your previews didn't show up. :(

yeah, it figures. something about linking??

EDITED

holy shnikeys its huge!

i haven,t put it in the game yet

Stainz, page not available at geocities. :(

Originally posted by Nemesis Rex
Here's a comparison.

OK. I had the jpg quality too low. This is a cleaner image.

??????

hopefully this will make up for it?

Pediaicons

Nice!

Now THAT'S what I call a Boomer. Nice work!

Awesome Looking Sub... Finally a sub that really looks like it carries Nukes :)

Does anyone have suggested stats for this beast?

Carries two nukes, longer range, more expensive....I'm not in the mood for being specific myself...but maybe someboy else is.

Originally posted by Architekt
Does anyone have suggested stats for this beast?

Carries two nukes, longer range, more expensive....I'm not in the mood for being specific myself...but maybe someboy else is.

same as the reg. nuke, but can carry 4 nukes, costs a bit more.

Nice job Architekt.

What I would do is make the original Nuclear Sub a regular SSN attack sub/sub hunter that could carry, say, 2 cruise missiles but no nukes. The Typhoon boomer would then be able to carry nukes only, have slightly reduced attack/defense and move, like, one space slower. Boomers tread lightly and carry a big stick. Although they have torpedoes, this is not their primary mission and will avoid combat as necessary to insure they carry out their primary mission of nuclear deterence.

I second CK's notion. That is how I would implement them as well.

I think you are right Colonel Kraken, however i don't think it should have reduced defence rating, Boomers are quite capable well protected subs.
The big old soviet SSBN and SSGN submarines can sustain far more serius damage than any SSN submarine

how can you make a submarine carry cruise missiles but not tactical nukes?

As far as I know, you cant at least not in the original game

For unit stats, I have done the following:

Boomer Sub (Typhoon)
Attack 8, Defense 12, Movement 6
Carries 4 Tactical Missiles, Invisible, Detect Invisible

Fast Attack Sub (Civ III Nuc)
Attack 14, Defense 10, Movement 7
Invisible, Detect Invisible

Modern Diesel Sub (reuses Civ III sub)
Attack 16, Defense 8, Movement 4
Invisible, Detect Invisible

I should mention that all my naval units have had their movements increased, so carriers and battleships move at 8, cruisers at 9, and destroyers at 10.

Oh I like it, I really like it...

Originally posted by Scipio Africanu
how can you make a submarine carry cruise missiles but not tactical nukes?

If you have the sub set to carry only tactical missiles and footsoldiers only, cruise missiles as tactical missiles and foot soldiers, and tactical nukes as tactical missiles only - that should do the trick :king:

It really works zulu9812!
Thank you for that information.

The problem now is that AI don`t load cruise missiles
to subs. By the way, have anyone seen AI load tactical nukes
to subs?

I've tried this before, and when I tested it in game, it could load infantry into the submarine.

I forgot to mention - I also made missiles aircraft, and gave nuke subs the 'transport only aircraft ability too'.

Originally posted by zulu9812
I forgot to mention - I also made missiles aircraft, and gave nuke subs the 'transport only aircraft ability too'.

Doesn't that mean that your nuke subs (at least AI subs) could be floating around carrying bombers and fighters?

No - because the missiles are flagged as tactical missiles and aircraft, the subs are set to carry tactical missiles only and aircraft only. Thus, the subs can only transport units which are both aircraft AND have the tactical missile flag.

No it doesn`t mean that your nuke subs will float around
with air units.
I have tested what zulu9812 wrote and it works:
You will get a cruise missiles sub only and a tactical nukes
sub only.

One Question, why all the trouble, SSN submarines does allso carry nuclear missile, the Akula submarine carries 12 torpedo lunched Granat (NATO SSN-21 Sampson), all nuclear

"why all the trouble"
Well, I suppose it`s because U.S. SSN:s carries
the Tomahawk missile, which have conventional warheads.

Originally posted by Rocoteh
"why all the trouble"
Well, I suppose it`s because U.S. SSN:s carries
the Tomahawk missile, which have conventional warheads.

If necessary, the tomahawks could be fitted with nuclear warheads, making them equivalent to tactical nukes in Civ3.

Not all Tomahak missiles are conventional, some Tomahawk missiles carries nuclear warheads
The most used land atack Tomahawk (TLAN/C) and anti ship version (TSAM) are both conventional, however tne TLAM/A cariant carries a nuclear warhead

In fact The W-80 Nuclear warhead (Standard nuclear warhead for Tomahawks) is a 200 kt. a large atomic bomb or a small hydrogen bomb, actually to large to, by international standards, to be caled tactical

I knew that what you says about the nuclear capability
of the Tomahawk missile are correct Akula.
Still it`s primary function is to act as an conventional
wepon. Well I have no intention to argue about this.
You have made a really great unit.
That`s what interesting.

Okay, I understand your point

I will give Typhoon a high defense rating and
extra hit points.
It should bee hard to knock it out.

Now THAT's what I call :eek: a boomer. Yikes. That sucker is HUGE.

Akula, may I have your permission to include this in a scenario-mod I'm making? I will email you a copy or post a copy here of the scenario for your use.

Of course:)
Just go ahead

Will post it in a minute....

By the way, Akula, is there a chance of you making the Typhoon non-civ color specific so that every civ can use it with it's own colors?

Thanks to Akula for permission to use his Typhoon SSBN as the base for a modern SSBN. I've posted it here because the Typhoon is based here, and this mod is directly attributed to this.

Readme:

This is the readme for the "Naval Modern Start" Scenario, all conditions may be enabled. The only things changed other than the modern start are the units listed below. I don't think it is necessary to state that this is for PtW only, but I will anyhow. :-). This Mod may be posted in any fora or website, as long as this readme is included in the .ace file.

To play:

1. Put the "naval modern start.bix" into your PtW Scenario folder.
2. Put the folder titled "naval modern start" into your PtW Scenario folder.

Start PtW as usual, select Scenario and click on the naval modern start.bix, and have lots of fun.

Unit Notes:

The SSBN costs 20 shields, carries 8 tac nukes, has an A/D/M of 6/12/4, both "invisible and detect invisible" flags are enabled. This SSBN is based heavily upon Akula's Typhoon Class submarine, available at: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36997&perpage=20&display=&pagenumber=1. Thanks to Akula for permission to use the Typhoon as the SSBN for this mod- I am heavily indebted to him for this.

The SSN (aka Nuke Sub) carries 4 cruise missiles (no nukes) and has an A/D/M of 10/5/5. Both "invisible and detect invisible" flags are enabled.

The Aegis Cruiser carries 2 cruise missles and has an A/D/M is 12/10/5. The "detect invisible" flag is enabled.

The Cruise Missile can now be carried aboard SSN's and Aegis CA's. Both Lethal bombardment modes are enabled. Cruise missiles can be launched from up to 4 squares away.

Tactical Missles can be carried aboard SSBN's only. Both Lethal bombardment modes are enabled. Tac missles can be launched from up to 6 squares away.

ICBM's: Both Lethal bombardment modes are enabled.

Civilopedia Notes:
There is a copy of the modified Civilopedia for this scenario, and can be found in the "text" folder of the "naval modern start" scenario folder.

DJ54. You may PM me at www.civfanatics.net.

Ok, finally got it uploaded, took me awhile to figure out it wasn't through the forum reply post, but an upload file system. Here's the file URL:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/NMS_Mod.zip

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theres the upload file posibility at the bottom of the page

So I just discovered by reading some other posts. Haven't did this before, now I know.... Sorry!

Here's the file URL, as posted above also:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/NMS_Mod.zip

Akula, check your PM box, please.

Originally posted by Rocoteh
"why all the trouble"
Well, I suppose it`s because U.S. SSN's carry the Tomahawk missile, which have conventional warheads.
They do now, yes. However Tomahawks also have the option of carrying nuclear warheads- one variant being refered to as TLAM\N (Tomahawk Land Attack Missile \ Nuclear). There were also anti-ship nuclear versions as well- nothing puts a dent in a Kirov class Battle Cruiser better than a bucket of sunshine. :D

It wasn't until 1991 that Bush Snr. signed the orders removing all tactical nuclear warheads from US surface ships and submarines.

Maybe we could ask to see if there was a way to patch it so that you could select it so certain subs only carried tomahawks or nukes? Or that might be too complicated with the already hard written code.

Personally I think you should have been able to just load ICBM's onto subs as well. Instead I just had to mod tactical nukes so they had a massive bombardment range so they became effectively SLBM.

If there was a simply way so that you could toggle it so ships could only carry cruise missiles that would be great- you'd have extended range tactical nukes and ships able to carry cruise missiles but without nukes.

In CIV3 and PTW the naval aspects have so far
been rather neglected (not a single new naval unit in PTW).
One can only hope that if there will be a new expansion-pack
this problem will be corrected.
I should welcome naval interception, antiaircraft-rating and
of course more naval units.
If more naval units are added I hope they will choose Akulas
standard, which I regard as superior.

What I REALLY want for naval units is some more defensive abilities (air defence, sub hunter, assault ship) some extra abilities make the ship classes more unique (right now the battleship is just an improved destroyer)

WOW it's the most beautifull sub I ever saw!!!:goodjob: :D :)

noooooooooo, i cant download it, the link is broken!!
can anyone fix it! ic just can't wait to download it!!

I think something's wrong with the civfanatics server right now. Second download link that doesn't work in the past couple of minuts for me...

thanks for the information.
so it's just wait until the server works again.
:thanx:

This is a great sub, Akula, others have made new subs but they seem much the same graphics wise. Yours really stands out, great for a strategic missile sub. I was wondering though, could you make another version that is all gray, like the other civ3 subs? The reason I ask is that the Typhoon looks great in regular civ3 water, but when you use it with snoopy's graphics mod with the deep blue water, it looks a bit strange, like it is covered with fungus or something, the light blue water pixels on the sub don't blend with the deeper blue of snoopy's oceans.

I second that, I downloaded this sub so I could add a nuclear missile sub in my scenario, and it does look a bit weird in snoopy's water.