This is the official thread for getting noble or royal titles and/or knighthood. The second post in this thread tracks all of the nobility.

The old thread can be found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32959).

Rules for nobility can be found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=838795#post838795).

Royalty
Chieftess, High Queen of Fanatika, Princess of Seetee, Countess at large, Squire of Vanir
Octavian X, King of Doughnutia, Duke of Augusta, Count of St. Mark's Point, Baron of St. John's Land, Knight of the Cedar
FortyJ, Prince of the Realm, Duke of Kartenwerk
Cyc, Prince of Manitou, Knight of the Realm
Eklektikos, Prince of Pointiple
jdd2007, Prince of Cincinnatia,Duke of the Palantire, Earl of Omaha, Baron of Cincinnatia, Knight of the Fanatikan Hawks, Knight of Vanir
Padma, Prince of Lancre and Fal Morgan, Duke of Omalu, Count of Mara, Baron of Kultis, Margrave of Brükenkopf, Knight of the Bridge (Vanir and Lancre)
Donovan Zoi, Prince of Klein Vanir, Knight of Vanir
Grandmaster, Prince of Vanir, Count of Aiger, Knight of Aegir
Stuck_As_a_Mac, Prince of All Penguins, Baron of Cupertina, Lord Knight of Cupertania, Knight of Vanir
gunning1, Prince of Gewehr, Count of Eis Mauer, Knight of Vanir
CivGeneral, Prince of Kampfenvanir, Count of Rohan, Knight of Vanir

Nobility
disorganizer, Duke of Morgana, Baron of the Outer Rim, Knight of Tsort
Falcon02, Knight of the Fanatikan Order.
Plexus, Duke of Zimt, Count of Bahrwald, Knight of Roten-Hawk.
Shaitan Snow, Baron of Süd-Besitz, Count of Schlachtfeld
Zarn, Count of Celraste, Jedi Knight
Ehecatl Atzin, Baron of Cuernavaca
Strider, Duke of Utopia, Baron of Mt. Hope, Knight of Fanatika
Shabbaman, Count of the Grail, Knight of Lancre
naervod, Duke of Vanir, Count of Numenor, Knight of Vanir

Knights
donsig, Knight of the Realm
Almightyjosh, Jedi Knight
Cheetah, Knight of Rohan
Falcon02, Knight of the Fanatikan Order
Sir John, Squire of Utopia

*Titles in italics are unlanded.
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Royal Bloodlines
Great Houses
House Doughnutia: Octavian X (founder)
House Vanir: Shaitan (deceased, founder), Grandmaster, Donovan Zoi, CivGeneral
House Seetee: Chieftess (founder)
House Kartenwerk: FortyJ (founder)
House Pointiple: Eklektikos (founder)

Lesser Houses
House Manitou: Cyc
House Cincinnatia: jdd2007
House Lancre: disorganizer (abdicated), Padma
House Cupertania: Stuck_As_a_Mac
House Gewehr: gunning1

What about squires? I'm also a squire of vanir :)

Prince of Fanatika? I'll have you know I'm the Prince of Pointiple, young man ;)

@gonzo - squires are Knights in training. You moved up from squire to knight.

Originally posted by Eklektikos
Prince of Fanatika? I'll have you know I'm the Prince of Pointiple, young man ;)
I merely copied Shaitan's list from the previous thread. ;)

If you really want to be the Prince of Pointiple, it shall be done!

:D

Padma could you add to one of your posts the list of official positions held here in the rpg such as game manager, itme manager and herald that sorta thing. just so everyone knows who to contact if there is a problem

I wish to claim the title of Prince.

There are currently three provinces in our nation, thus requiring 9 tiles, of which I currently own 10.

My home is the Castle Kultis.

I will pay the 1000g fee directy.

BCLG100 - There is already a place that you were putting that. It isn't really appropriate to the Nobles thread.

hello padma, and welcome to the princes. who is holding the next gala, tourney or party? i might sometime, but first i have to get a better home!

As King of Fanatika I do hereby raise FortyJ to the peerage. As confirmed by the Royal Council (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=615826#post615826), he shall evermore be known as FortyJ, Duke of Kartenwerk!

Titles to this point have been processed.

@padma: are those tile continuous? i believe you need continuous tiles ;-)


...must have in order to get that title. "Land tiles" are tiles that have visible land. These tiles must be continguous (touching) for multi-tile requirements. Income is what the title will earn per turn chat (from holdings, etc in the nobility).

and diagonally does not count as touching in there imho as it doesnt count for water tile availability.

Diagonal does count for land tiles to be contiguous.

(Whew!)

Thanks, Shaitan. :D

Edit: BTW, Sir Disorganizer, (and anyone else interested) I appreciate your asking that question. I have no wish to be, nor to be seen, as unethical. If anyone doubts any actions I take in this thread, please be sure to speak up.

ok i would like to be known as the duke and baron of Ankh Morpork everyone else has stolen pratchett names why not me :)

A link somewhere in the thread to the rules regarding nobility would be appreciated.

:D

Crud, one more thing...

Does my position as both RPG Manager (conflicts) and Vice President earn me the appointed Earl title?

you can be an earl cos of your manager job not sure about VP

You only get a temporary title if you lack a comparable permanent one. As Octavian is a permanent Prince he will never get a temporary title unless he becomes President.

@bclg: your titles have been updated.

@Octavian: a link has been added to the first post. :)

Believe me, I will become president, even if I am VP for a bunch of terms!

i do feel sorry for you although its a greaat job VP in both civ2 and 3 for 2 terms you must be going mad

Squire naervod shall be invested as Knight of Vanir, with my sponsorship. He already has the required housing. The ceremony of knighting will be held on Monday in the new Vanir thread but please take care of the legal minutiae right away.

Come the end of elections, I will be a governor. Will that bump my rank at all?

Thanks Shaitan. This means you are sponsoring my investiture right?
EDIT- BTW, can you post a link to the Vanir thread?

@naervod - Yup. Vanir sponsors your investiture. I'll link to the Vanir thread in my signature as soon as I get it up.

Padma: Im a governor and Science Deputy. Does this do ANYTHING to my rank?

@Shaitan: naervod is now listed as a Knight of Vanir.

@SAaM: You are already a Baron (at large). I need to get a reading on whether Governors are elevated (temporarily) to Earl/Duke. If so, you will receive that title.

Note on naervod's ceremony: Due to an extremely busy Monday, the Vanir thread and naervod's knighting ceremony will go up tomorrow.

The second post, listing all titles, has been updated to reflect the loss of titles with the changes in leadership for the new term.

A reminder to all: if you have received a position that will allow an upgrade to a higher temporary title, you must claim it here. I will not be searching you all out and auto-updating those. Exception: Eklektikos has been upgraded to King. ;)

@SAaM: I marked you as Duke at Large due to your Governorship. If you wish a more specific title, please request it in this thread. :)

I am happy to announce that naervod has been beknighted. See this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=631174#post631174) in the Vanir thread for the details.

i wish to become an earl as well

@bclg: You can be either a Duke or an Earl by appointment. If you wish to be both, you must purchase an investiture in one. Total cost would be:

600 gold
Mansion (or better)
12 Contiguous Tiles (2 * current Active Provinces (6) )

@BCLG100 - You have only 7 tiles. You need 18 to become an Earl. 6 Active Provinces X modifier of 3 = 18.

Sir Shaitan, The modifier for Duke/Earl is 2. ;)
Inv. -Requirements--
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Title Req. #tiles Housing Income
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Squire (sira) 200g 0 none 5
Knight (sir) 400g 0 Lg. House 10
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Count/Baron/Margrave 600g 1* Mansion 15
Earl/Duke 800g 2* Mansion 20
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Prince/Archduke 1000g 3* Castle 25
King 1400g 5* Palace 35
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* = Times number of active provinces

I stand corrected. Actually, I sit corrected. I am at the computer after all.

With the correct modifier of 2, the requirement for Earl is currently 12 tiles.

ok then well i would also like to become a squire and a knight

have to have summin to fall back on i believe i already am a duke by appointement?

@bclg: Yes, you are the Duke of Ankh Morpork by appointment, and you also hold the title of Baron of Ankh Morpork, by virtue of an investiture you purchased early in the game.

A Squire is a Knight-in-Training, so you cannot be both.

ok so can i just be a knight then?

Certainly! :)

I haven't yet checked, but I assume you already own a Large House, or better? If not, you'll need to build one. Plus, 400 gold for the investiture.

I can mark you as a Knight at Large, unless you are affiliated with an order tha confers Knighthood (i.e., the Jedis) or are sponsored by another (Shaitan has the Knights of Vanir, Disorganizer the Knights of Lancre, etc.).

BCLG100 has a mansion so he's all set for that requirement.

Thank you, Lord Shaitan. :)

So, BCLG, all you really need is to post that you are expending the 400gold in this thread, and you will be known as Sir BCLG100, Duke of Ankh MorPork, Baron of Ankh Morpork, Knight of ... whatever.

:D

lets See.. Im Sir SaaM. Knight of Cupertania, Baron of Coctys (somebody run a spell check on that one for me: Inferno, I forget which Canto #), Duke of the Antartic. (When I hit prince hood, Ill be Prince of All Penguins)
also: how much to get rid of "at large"?

@SAaM: Your titles have been updated. Don't forget that your "Duke" is only temporary, and goes away if you are ever voted out of office. ;) You might want to take steps to make it permanent. Of Course, that'll cost 800 gold and requires you to have 12 contiguous tiles ... :)

(Oh, just slip me 200 gold under the table for getting rid of those "at large" titles. :D )

Contiguous... Darn...
Unless....
Penguin expanded during the last TC. If I can buy them (which only I can on some, due to land ownings of costal tiles..) I can do it!
Ill see you after the Penguin tiles go up for sale. Then we'll talk.

ok i am knight of AnkhMorpork as well i believe i can become an earl now possibly even a prince

I wish to become an Earl/Duke. Do I have the requirments to do this? (I recently bought a Sm. Palace)

Announcement: I give the title of "prince of lancre" from me to Padma, as he will lead lancre in the future.

@ bclg100: Am I to take your last post here as approval to debit your account for 400 gold (for the knighthood)?

@ Strider: You have the house, and I am sure you can come up with 800 gold, but you must have 12 contiguous tiles at this time to be a Duke/Earl.

@ disorganizer: I accept the title, as Lancre must have a Prince. :( I shall put my title of Prince of Fal Morgan in abeyance. No income changes will be recorded.

oh yeah sorry i do want to be debited for it

All right. BCLG pays 400g for investiture as Knight of Ankh Morpork.

2nd post updated.

civ general has become part of Ankh Morpork so his titles need changing accordingly

I'll be glad to update CivGeneral's titles as soon as he tells me which titles specifically need changing. ;)

Originally posted by Padma
I'll be glad to update CivGeneral's titles as soon as he tells me which titles specifically need changing. ;)

CivGeneral, Count at large,
Jedi Knight, Knight of the Fanatikan Order and Fanatikan Hawks

Well, I have recently been elected Govenor of the North Provance :). I have 3 land tiles so that would mean that I would be the Archduke of Ankh Morpork, Please let me know If I need anything elts to get the title of Archduke :).

Well, CG, the key thing for you to be Archduke is to have 18 contiguous tiles, not 3. ;) If you read the fine print, that's 3 times the number of active provinces (6), not just 3.

You also need a Castle (at least) and must pay an investiture fee of 1000g.

The investiture fee for something as grand as archduke is preferred to be paid out to the populace directly, via a tournament, or something like that, that causes you to spend the equivalent amount in our many shops and as purses for winners, and so on. Of course, you can always just pay the fee here, and it will be disbursed to the citizens as straight cash.

If you would like, I can update your "at large" entry to be "Count of Ankh Morpork" for no charge. :D

You can also hold a temporary Duke/Earl title as Governor, without paying any fees or anyother consideration. As it would be a temporary title, if you ever lose your position, you would revert to your "Count" title.

Doh :cringe:. I though you had to hold 3 land tiles, well I am off Land Tile hunting.
Yes I would like to upgrade to Duke and have the "of Ankh Morpork" added :).

Well, I updated your "Count" title to include "of Ankh Morpork".

I have a problem with your Ducal title, though. BCLG is already the "Duke of Ankh Morpork" (also by appointment). I cannot in good conscience provide the same title to two nobles. I can make you the "Earl of Ankh Morpork", with the same pay and benefits, or you can have a different Ducal title.

Your call. :D

Ok, Ill take the Earl :).

make me a duke please :)

@CivGeneral: Earl of Ankh Morepork it is, then. :D

@jdd2007: I would love to make you a Duke. Unfortunately, according to the current ruleset, you must have 12 contiguous tiles, and the most recent update I see only shows you with 10 contiguous tiles (in & around Dacula). If I am mistaken, please show me my error, and feel free to rub my nose in it. :D

so far including me we have all been asking padma do make us dukes princes whatever without actually checking what the rules are if you feel the urge to get a title read the rules first it would save padma a lot of time also when asking for a title remember to put "of something"

Thanks for the plug, bc. :D

Actually, the duties of Herald do include verifying that the applicant meets the requirements. Still, it would be refreshing to see a post like:

"Here's my 800g. My 12 tiles are located here,and my mansion (or better) is located here. Please make me the Duke of Earl."

:D

what can i be with 10 contig. tiles?

Well, jdd, according to the rules (found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=565644#post565644) ;) ), you can be a Baron/Count/Margrave(Marquise) for 6 tiles + 600 gold + mansion or larger.

i will be a baron please. :)

Very well, jdd. Baron of ... Dacula?

I shall become the Baron of Zimt and now will assume the titles Marquise of Bahrwald and Knight of Roten-Hawk.

Payment: 800g
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=648278#post648278

@jdd: your titles have been updated. I made you Baron of Dacula. If you prefer some other name, let me know.

@Plexus: Very well, sir. Your titles have been updated.

I just read some of your other posts, Sir Plexus. Did you mean to take the title Duke of Zimt? If so, I shall update it accordingly.

I am sponsoring Shabbaman as a Squire of Lancre. He has been performing the duties of a squire for some time now, without recognition. His squireship should be short, therefore, with a promotion to Knight in the near future.

200 gold from Padma.

i would like to be baron of cincinnatia. sorry for the late response

@jdd2007: No problem. List is now updated.

Name Title Lands Investiture
jdd2007 Duke of the Palantire Palanthus,et al 800g
naervod Count of Falkonest New Falcon's Nest,et al 600g
Donovan Zoi Prince of Klein Vanir Tlaxcala,et al 1000g
gunning1 Count of Eis Mauer Gunningheim,et al 600g
gonzo_for_civ Baron of Süd-Besitz Huntington,et al 600g
Padma Margrave of Brückenkopf Southeast Lancre 600g
Shaitan Margrave of Sodor Naerva,et al 600g
Shaitan Archduke of Cimmaron Central Vanir (grass) 1000

Housing Requirements. The following have been arranged to meet housing requirements:
Donovan Zoi, Mansion in Tlaxcala upgrade to castle.
naervod, Large house in Kuhkaff upgrade to mansion.
gonzo_for_civ, Large house at BO-B-1 upgrade to mansion.

Total Investiture: 5800g

Investiture Paid via High Games:
720g, refreshments (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=649831#post649831)
4700g, prize purses (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=650291#post650291)

Investiture Due: 380g

The Heraldic Rolls are updated to this point.

Many thanks, Shaitan, for the investiture. :) I am sure the other recipients of your beneficence also thank you.

CivGeneral has forsworn his existing knightly titles in order to become a Knight of Vanir. LINK (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=658511#post658511)

Please remove those old titles and bill me 400g for his investiture to Knight of Vanir. The ceremony will be on Thursday in the Vanir thread.

The Knighting of Shabbaman (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=665690#post665690)

Padma is billed 400g for the investiture.

The titles for CivGeneral and Shabbaman have been updated.

Can you please check to see if I meet the requirements to become a duke/earl?

okay Chieftess wishes to become the first Knightess in the game of rpg i will pay her 400 gold fee as she agrees to become a Knight Of Ankh Morpork

So now Chieftess will be a Countess at large and a Knight.

ok Ankh Morpork yeah

i am paying for Cheetah to become a Knight Of Ankh Morpork 400 gold i believe :)

and admiral pj which come to a total of 800 gold

Cheetah bought a large house but Admiral PJ cancelled his order for one.

Chieftess, Cheetah, and Admiral PJ are now recorded as Knights of Ankh Morpork. 1200g debited from BCLG's account.

@Strider: Sorry, I just saw your post. As soon as the #*!$&! firewall at work lets me see the uploads folder so I can verify your land ownership, you should be good to go. (I see you have already met the housing requirement. ;) )

Chieftess also canceled her large house. :(

Strider has 9 contiguous tiles. Qualified for Baron, Margrave or Count.

Aargh! That'll teach me to triple check! I knew she had ordered one, assumed it was still good. :suicide:

So Scratch Chieftess (and Admiral PJ, it looks like) from the list, until Large Houses (or better) are built.

I think they are both waiting until after the land deal.

Before time runs out and new provinces are declared, I would like to jump onto princeship. I believe there are still only 7 provinces, so I have 23 con tiles, so Ill become a Prince (Padma- you have my title name already)

@SAAM - There are actually 8 provinces now as "Sugar & Spice" became official today. That shorts you by one tile but I think I've got one or two more left near your territory. I'll sell you one if you'd like. PM me your offer.

Shai: Ill wait. Hopefully, the next availability will be up before the term is out. Goonie's City put a lot of tiles up for grabs (and the best part, is no one seems to like the Ocean)

I would like to pay for investment for SAAM to Knight of Vanir and Chieftess to Squire of Vanir. 600g total.

I would like to become Grandmaster, Prince of Aegir. As you may know, I have held a tournament that paid 1000g in prize money, covering my investiture. I also own the following tiles:
TS-G-5
TS-F-6
TS-NOCS
TS-E-7
TS-F-7
TS-G-7
TS-E-8
TS-F-8
TS-G-8
TS-H-8
TS-E-9
TS-CIVA
TS-G-9
TS-H-9
TS-E-10
TS-F-10
TS-G-10
TS-H-10
TS-PENS
TS-D-11
TS-E-11
TS-F-11
TS-G-11
TS-H-11

Finally, I also own a palace in Grandmastoria.

If you require links, I shall furnish them upon request. If not, then I believe everything is in order. :)

I will also add a title. As you know, I've added 8 contiguous tiles in the South Doughnut Coast through dealings with you.

I have 80g investiture left from my tourney. I will therefore pay 520g to become the Baron of Bavaria, considering I'm Lord Mayor of that city.

I wish to update my title to say: CivGeneral, Duke of House Vanir

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@Grandmaster: You had me worried for a minute! :eek: Those tiles are Southwest, not Taliesin. ;)

@CivGeneral: I changed your temporary title from Earl of Ankh Morpork to Duke of House Vanir. Correct?

@SAaM: I fully understand. Good luck with the land availability. :D

@Octavian & Shaitan: Done.

Sorry Padma, but it was all Shaitan's fault! :p

But seriously, he mistyped the list of transferred tiles and I just copied it. Sure enough, he changed it AFTER I had posted. But whatever, it all worked out in the end....

Yeah, that freaked me out too in the Land Sales page, but then I looked and posted something about it. :)

Grandmaster: Yeah, I caught it when I went to check the Land thread, and saw the edited transfer. :D

Originally posted by Padma
@CivGeneral: I changed your temporary title from Earl of Ankh Morpork to Duke of House Vanir. Correct?

Everything looks in good order :). Though my retired title should have Count (Or equivelent) of House Vanir.

"CivGeneral, Duke of House Vanir (Appointment, Governor of The North Province), Count of Ankh Morpork (Change to "of House Vanir"), Knight of Vanir"

Sir CivGeneral, I regret to inform you that I may not change your permanent Count title to "of House Vanir" without approval from Shaitan, the Prince of that house.

You already purchased the investiture to Count, and chose the title "of Ankh Morpork" for it. If you wish to change it, you must discuss it with Shaitan, the head of House Vanir, and with BCLG, the head of Ankh Morpork.

Padma: I got the tiles i needed. Please make me Prince SaaM.
Heres my investure.

@SAaM: If you are speaking of gaining your tiles from the current availabiility, let me quote Shaitan: These results are preliminary. I won't have time to do the financials until this evening at the soonest and there are 3 players who may have gone bust. Hopefully this will be the final and good list but please do not post any transactions for these tiles until I have closed the availability and posted the financials.I will not verify your tiles until this availability is closed, as there seems to be some problems with the outcome.

If you have gained the necessary tiles through other means, then please accept my apologies, and let me know. :)

Okay. So basically youre waiting for knightings and such the same reason Im yet to do the RL tile sales.

Actually, SAaM, I am just waiting on the formal announcement that the Land Availability is complete. :) It certainly looks like you've got the requisite tiles, but I don't want to "jump the gun".

You will be "Prince of All Penguins" before you know it. :D

All hail SaaM, Prince of all Penguins. :D

Thanks. Please dont bill me until my auction is over. The sale of Gooniedum will net me the 1000g i need for my Princelyness (not a word, who cares)
Sir SaaM, Knight of Vanir (Penguin of the Lake), Baron of Coctyus (please change that to Baron of Cupertania), Duke of the Antartic, Prince of all Penguins.
(Finally, Im a prince)

What can I get with a Small Palace and 11 tiles?

@Strider - Baron, Margrave or Count.

As a note, Stuck as a Mac is no longer a Duke, for he has the permanent title of prince.

Good point, Octavian! :D

The Prince title supercedes the temporary Duke title.

I (probably) would have caught it on my next review. ;)

Oct: why cant I be a duke (still a governor)?
Also: Padma, I changed the title. Please refresh it as so

@SAAM - The gratuitous titles are only for when the Leader type doesn't have that rank or better as a permanent title.

oh, okay. Didnt know that.

@SAAM: Your Baron title has been updated.

@Shaitan: Thanks for answering questions over the Holidays. :D

id like to become a margrave only cos it sounds good dunno what it is though

A Margrave is the same ranking as a Baron or Count. The literal definition is The lord or military governor of a medieval German border province.

well can i become that then and also can i have all of my titles changed to "Of Rohan" cheetahs also needs to be changed to that as well

Is Ankh Morpork's name changing to Rohan?

yes it has been announced in my thread also if its not to much trouble could you change the title it saves me having to create a new thread

@BCLG: All "of Ankh Morpork" titles in the Peerage List are now changed to " of Rohan". Now, did you wish to change your Baron title to Margrave, or did you want an additional title? If the latter, "Margrave of ..." what?

can i have the latter please Margrave of Rivendell please

i bet none of you have worked out where im getting these titles from and the other one which is the same as those2 cant remember what it is can i have that as well but with
"of Gondor" at the end

Okay, bclg, after that land deal you now have enough for both titles, so you are now also known as "Margrave of Rivendell and Count of Gondor".

:D

Will you be going for Archduke of Mordor next? :lol:

make me:

count of juno
earl of omaha
margrave of golden swords

please

:king:

had to combine the anglo-canadian beaches into 1, eh, jdd? :p

@jdd: I don't think you have enough contiguous tiles for all that. Count +8 tiles.
Margrave +8 tiles.
Earl +16 tiles.
Total = 32 tiles.

At last check of the land thread maps, I only count 34 contiguous tiles in your name. (25 near Dacula, 3 near Toyama in S&S, and 6 in Hafenland.) You do also have several isolated tiles, but the rules specifically state "contiguous". And they are cumulative as well. Giving you as much benefit of the doubt as I can, I have to "discount" 10 of your tiles for the titles you already hold.

If you can gain 2 more tiles in Hafenland, that would be good for a Count or Margrave title. One more tile near Dacula would be good for the Earl title.

I don't mean to be hard. I'm just trying to follow the rules as they are written. :)

@padma:
? 32>34 ?
if he has 34 cont. tiles, and needs 32?!?

Dis: read the rest. The amounts are cumulative. He is already a Prince, a Duke, and a Baron. Under the best circumstances I can come up with, 10 of those 34 are "used" already. :(

Edit: Shaitan, If I am misinterpreting this, let me know!

hmmm. are the titles additive?
so can you be Count and Baron and Margrave at the same time? i always thought you could only be one of the titles of the same class at a time?!?

They're the same level, but you can have more than one at once. But it takes (now) 8 tiles to be a Baron, 8 more to be a Count, etc.

Yup, that's the way it's supposed to work, Padma.

oic...

I wish to make the Following people this:

Stuck_as_a_Mac: Knight of Utopia
CivGeneral: Knight of Neverwinter

This I believe cost's me 400g... Please take it in full out of my account.

So if you want to have the king deal, will you be a prince that makes more money?

Originally posted by Padma
@jdd: I don't think you have enough contiguous tiles for all that. Count +8 tiles.
Margrave +8 tiles.
Earl +16 tiles.
Total = 32 tiles.

At last check of the land thread maps, I only count 34 contiguous tiles in your name. (25 near Dacula, 3 near Toyama in S&S, and 6 in Hafenland.) You do also have several isolated tiles, but the rules specifically state "contiguous". And they are cumulative as well. Giving you as much benefit of the doubt as I can, I have to "discount" 10 of your tiles for the titles you already hold.

If you can gain 2 more tiles in Hafenland, that would be good for a Count or Margrave title. One more tile near Dacula would be good for the Earl title.

I don't mean to be hard. I'm just trying to follow the rules as they are written. :)

i just traded for for a tile adjacent my lands surrounding dacula. id like to be earl of omaha now :D thank you

Mr Padma sir, I fear your list of titles is out of date again. I'm pretty sure that I am no longer the King, and have no doubt that President FortyJ would agree with this assessment :D

Oops! :blush: I meant to take care of that last week, and just spaced it off. It's all fixed now.

@jdd: Look at my location field on the left, and you will see why it is hard for me to make someone else "Earl of Omaha". :lol: Done.

@Strider: While I have no objection to these Knighthoods on their face, the gentlemen you mention are already Knights of Vanir. CivGeneral even foreswore all previous Knighthoods for that title. If CG and SAaM post here or PM me of their approval for this action, I will add these titles to them.

In going with LOTR theme, I will be Count of Numenor instead of Count of New Falkonest.

Ok... What rank can I get with 12 tiles and a large palace?

Originally posted by naervod
In going with LOTR theme, I will be Count of Numenor instead of Count of New Falkonest. <sigh> Okay, Count of Numenor it is.

(Shaitan & I have been discussing charging for "Name Changes". :evil: )

Padma, exactly how many consecutive tiles do I have to own before I can become nobility?

Here (again) is the table showing requirements for titles:
Inv. -Requirements--
Title Req. #tiles Housing Income
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Squire (sira) 200g 0 none 5
Knight (sir) 400g 0 Lg. House 10
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Count/Baron/Margrave 600g 1* Mansion 15
Earl/Duke 800g 2* Mansion 20
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Prince/Archduke 1000g 3* Castle 25
King 1400g 5* Palace 35
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* = Times number of active provinces
Note that since we have 6 active provinces, the tile requirements are 6, 12, and 18. (Since we have discovered Monarchy, we no longer invest Kings. :) )

@Strider: You can become an Earl or Duke.

@Shabbaman: at least 6 (right now).

I would like to become Prince of Gewehr. I have a Small Palace and lots of land down in the RL.

I wish to become Duke of Utopia

To celebrate my new appointment as heir to Vanir, I would like to switch my princely title to Prince of Vanir. That should make me Prince of Vanir, Count of Aegir, and Knight of Aegir.

@gunning1: I regret that I must inform you that, while you have "lots of land" in Rhineland, the rules stipulate that the tiles for a title must be contiguous. Unfortunately, the best count I can get is 17 contiguous around Trader's Inn/Grandmastoria. That is 1 short of the 18 required for a title of Prince. Perhaps you can talk gonzo or Padma out of a tile or two?

@Strider: You have the requisite 12 tiles, and a Castle, to boot. Duke of Utopia it is. That will be 800 gold.

@Grandmaster: Of course, my friend. :)

@Padma: You are Padma! :D

BTW, what do you want for tiles around RL? ;)

I will invest to become Prince of Numenor. I believe with my contigous land gained by the will I have enough land. Shaitan gave me all lands south of Civanatoria and east of Cuernavca.

Here is 1000g.

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Just a note: the Herald of Fanatika has become very busy in RL for this weekend, but will attend to these matters by Monday.
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Scratch Prince of Numenor, I am applyomg to the Grand Council of Vanir to become the Archduke of Vanir. I will not make the investiture until I get approval from the Council.

It is official, the Council has confirmed me as an Archduke of Vanir. I will be upgrading from Count.

Here is 1000g

Originally posted by gunning1
@Padma: You are Padma! :D

BTW, what do you want for tiles around RL? ;) I was merely listing those landowners who held tiles abutting yours in RL. One would not wish to give the appearance of using this office to *extort* land deals. ;)

BTW, see your PMs. ;)

:p

Ok, I was going to my PMs to PM Donovan and then I saw yours. Lucky me! :D See mine. :)

I was hoping the new Land thread, with the dispensation of Shaitan's Will included, would be out, so I could verify any new titles. But I see it will be a week or more, yet. So, rather than make people wait:

Naervod, you are now Archduke of Vanir. As such, your Earl title (by appointment) has been superceded.

Hello Sir Padma,

I recently found out that one of my ancestors, whose name I bear, Shabbaman of PDX was a nobleman in his days. He is renowned for his contribution to the construction of the Hanging Gardens in the lost city of PDX.

This would mean that I, Shabbaman, Lord of Castle Anthrax, am in fact his successor! Therefore, I would like the nobles of Fanatika recognize my claim to the title Count of the Grail.

Greetings!

Very well, Sir Shabbaman.

(The Herald checks his files: 6 tiles in Inner Lancre, a Small Palace, and 600g. Everything is in order.)

All hail the new Count of the Grail!

Hurray!

Dear nobility:
Fanatika has had corrupt people ruining the lives of the good Fanatikan folk. We must make sure these trouble makers are taught a lesson. I purpose a plan to all nobles. Let us create a police force to crush anyone that commits crime. I have talked to my Jedi, and they agree that the Jedi Council shall protect the civilians of Fanatika through the law. It was approved by Prince Shaitan before his untimely death. Bless him. All I am asking is your approval to have justice served in Fanatika by your friends, the Jedi Knights.
May the Force be with you,
Lord Master Zarn of the Jedi Knights

we even already have a prison :-) even if its burried on one of the oldest pages of our national logs

Ok Padma, I think that my "lots" of land can now get me a Prince title. So if it can, I would like to be Prince of Gewehr. Ok? Is that the one I said earlier?

Originally posted by gunning1
Ok Padma, I think that my "lots" of land can now get me a Prince title. So if it can, I would like to be Prince of Gewehr. Ok? Is that the one I said earlier? Prince of Gewehr - right.

However, may I point out this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=724063#post724063)? I'm sorry, but you don't have the Small Palace you thought, just the Mansion. You will need to upgrade it first. Once that's taken care of, you'll be known as a Prince of a fellow! ;)

:mad:

I was almost completely sure I upgraded it! :( Well, I might have to wait even more time, to see how the money situation is going...

Captain Shaitan Snow shall be known as the Duke of Schlachtfeld (Battlefields). I thought it appropriate as that's where he holds court. ;)

(By appointment, Public Defender)

Capt Snow's appointment has been noted in the Peerage List (Post 2).

:)

I just noticed, looking at the Land thread, that we have eight provinces: North, Southwest, Taliesin, Hafenland, Rhineland, South Doughnut Coast, Montis Abeo Gramen, and "Sugar & Spice". That means tile counts for respective titles are:

Baron/Count/Margrave - 8
Duke/Earl - 16
Prince/Archduke - 24

These will take effect immediately.

(Don't worry, gunning, you still have 25 contiguous in RL. ;) )

Ok, I figured you fixed it to where I couldn't get it again. ;)

Ok, I'll go ahead and become a prince. (While I still have a chance.) ;)

Ok, I am planning on getting a Sm. Palace (Since that would be the requierment). But I would like to know if I have Enough land tiles to be a Archduke :).

@gunning: I posted your investiture before I could change my mind. ;) Welcome to the world of Royal Princes.

@CivGeneral: While you have 19 tiles that I can see on a quick look (theoretically enough for Duke/Earl), the largest contiguous grouping of them I could come up with was 10, around Novgorod. And the rules specify the tiles must be contiguous. You'll need to find a way to link those groups together, or otherwise expand some more.

Yay, I'm FINALLY ;) a prince! :D

Originally posted by Zarn
Dear nobility:
Fanatika has had corrupt people ruining the lives of the good Fanatikan folk. We must make sure these trouble makers are taught a lesson. I purpose a plan to all nobles. Let us create a police force to crush anyone that commits crime. I have talked to my Jedi, and they agree that the Jedi Council shall protect the civilians of Fanatika through the law. It was approved by Prince Shaitan before his untimely death. Bless him. All I am asking is your approval to have justice served in Fanatika by your friends, the Jedi Knights.
May the Force be with you,
Lord Master Zarn of the Jedi Knights

I oppose that. If we appoint an agency to fight crime, it must be based on Fanatikan law, and not founded on the base of any religion or whatever the jedi are.

And of course a police force must be INDEPENDANT :-)

Originally posted by disorganizer
And of course a police force must be INDEPENDANT :-) :thumbsup:

This is a major requirement for a police force, in my mind.

What must I do to become a Prince?

Originally posted by donsig
What must I do to become a Prince? This is an easy one! ;)

To become a Prince, you must own at least 24 contiguous tiles (3 * 8 active provinces), own a Castle (or better), and pay an investiture of 1000g. The investiture is preferred to be paid via role-playing, e.g., hold a tournament at your castle, all the purses, cost of foodstuffs & drink, etc. got toward the investiture. Or you can pay straight cash here.

However you do it, be sure to post here in this thread what you have done/are doing (I need to verify it ;) ) and tell me what specific title you want: "I will be the Prince of Yada-Yada".

"Prince of Yada Yada"... Puh-lease, what an awful idea:D

The Peerage (post #2) edited to remove appointed titles lost after the general elections. Elevated Chieftess to Queen of Fanatika.

If you gained an appointed title as a result of the elections, please post your new title in this thread.

@Padma - I'd like my retired title to be Margrave instead of Count. Thanks!

@Shaitan: Done!

uh..... Do I get to be a earl and a duke?

@Strider: Not unless you buy yourself an earldom.

You already have the title "Duke of Utopia", so you don't get a new equivalent appointment title. If you were only a Baron/Count/Musgrave, yes.

Originally posted by Padma
@Strider: Not unless you buy yourself an earldom.

You already have the title "Duke of Utopia", so you don't get a new equivalent appointment title. If you were only a Baron/Count/Musgrave, yes.

I was a baron.... but then I got the duke title.... Also don't I get to be a duke because of my science leader poistion?

@Strider - You only get an appointed title for a demogame position if you do not alreay have that rank or better. Since you are already a real Duke you don't need a temporary Duke title.

Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43621): Changing the Title rules.

gonzo has left us (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44065). :cry:

Per his last wishes, please transfer to me (Shaitan Snow) the title of Baron of Süd-Besitz.

@Shaitan: It is done.

I'd like to request a slight name change for myself. At the moment, I would like to be known as the Baron of St. John's Land, rather than of Bavaria. Thank you.

Because of my recent sucessful election to the Presidency, I shall be claiming the title King of Fanatika.

Thank you.

@Octavian: Your wish is my command. :D

Are there any plans to update this registry to reflect new rule changes?

I would volunteer to do it myself, if no one else will.

@Octavian X - You're hired. Padma is otherwise engaged and I haven't been able to find the time to do it. Not that it will take a huge amount of time but I can't seem to get even the hour or so that it would take. The critical thing is to figure which titles are landed. If you need any help with figuring the rules give me a PM/email.

Thanks! :D

Originally posted by Shaitan
@Octavian X - You're hired. Padma is otherwise engaged and I haven't been able to find the time to do it. Not that it will take a huge amount of time but I can't seem to get even the hour or so that it would take. The critical thing is to figure which titles are landed. If you need any help with figuring the rules give me a PM/email.

Thanks! :D

I can see why Padma has less time now... He is a mod and that's more important than this!

That's not the only thing, Strider. ;) I have other Real World responsibilities, and if I want to keep my head on straight, something has to give. I just haven't been able to come up with even the small ammount of time to do this task.

Padma: The second post can now be updated in accordance with the new nobility rules.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=853574#post853574

Thanks, Octavian.

The Peerage (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=614738#post614738) has been updated.

I will invest 3000g to make CivGeneral Prince of Kampfenvanir as stated in this thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47886&perpage=20&display=&pagenumber=2

That makes him a member of House Vanir. Thank you.

When I become a squire should I post it here to get it registered?

We welcome the Prince of Kampfvanir to the Peerage! :D Grandmaster, your account has been charged for 3000g.

Sir John: Yes, you (or your sponsor) must post in this thread for the Herald (currently me ;) ) to update the Peerage list. Note: to become a Squire, you must be accepted into the service of some other lord.

Strider acsepted me as a squire in the utopian house... Is that enough? Am I registered now?

Almost. :D

I do need confirmation from Strider that you are to be a "Squire of Utopia".

And one of you needs to post here authorizing the expenditure of 300 gold. ;)

ok. Il pm strider to remind him :)

Originally posted by Sir John
ok. Il pm strider to remind him :)

Sir John is a Squire of Utopia and I will pay all costs for this.