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Kemal
Jan 22, 2003, 11:51 AM
I got the turn this morning so you should find it in your mailbox soon.

Incredible starting location for you Propain, too bad for you you had to wait for cultural expansion to use those cows. Or was that done on purpose as to give the others a chance to keep up? ;)

As far as the Persian empire is concerned, I'm happy to report that Persia has taken a giant leap in the demographics compared to the latest statistics Matrix put on his site. :D

Maybe Propain isn't the only one with cows nearby....

ProPain
Jan 22, 2003, 01:58 PM
it's the well known trade of between moving a settler and losing a turn or settling on the spot. This screenshot was taken from a 'replay' also, when i played the turn I first moved the scout and decided to wait the turns.

Got my turn and playing it right now.

Matrix
Jan 23, 2003, 08:08 AM
I might not play my turn today. :undecide:

ERIKK
Jan 23, 2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by Matrix
I might not play my turn today. :undecide:

:hmm: sent the save to ProPain yesterday at 18:45 CET. Too bad!

ProPain
Jan 23, 2003, 09:09 AM
I played and sent it on around 20:45 .

Matrix
Jan 24, 2003, 08:18 AM
I won't be at home much the following days, so I'll only be able to play at the university. Not in the weekend. :undecide: I don't know for how long, but probably not very long (two weeks or so)...

Kemal
Jan 24, 2003, 08:28 AM
Too bad, Matrix. :(
Have you recieved the turn from Plux already?

It's been ages since I last played a turn! (Well, 2 days actually, but it feels like a very long time ;) )

I won't start about the 1 turn/day thing again, but it would be nice if the game progressed on a steady pace, especially since now the early expansion phase is almost over and diplomacy kicks in.

If anyone can't play their turn for some time, please (like Matrix) make a statement here or send an email to the players so we know why the delay occurs.

edit: recieved the save about 1 minute after posting :yeah:

Matrix
Jan 24, 2003, 06:37 PM
I'm still here, this weekend. ;)

ProPain
Jan 24, 2003, 06:44 PM
I won't be able to play from saturday 18:00 untill sunday 18:00 (maybe 14:00 if I'm lucky). So if I have my turn before 17:30 I can play it and email it still.

Matrix
Jan 25, 2003, 12:52 PM
Did ProPain get the save in time?

ERIKK
Jan 25, 2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Matrix
Did ProPain get the save in time? send it 16:10 CET. He should have had it in time. :confused:

ProPain
Jan 26, 2003, 03:55 AM
Things turned out a little different, sorry. Was away sooner but could check mail sooner too! (took my laptop along just to play!)PLayed and send it on this morning. I will be available again around diner time (gotta get some physical exercise today)

Matrix
Jan 26, 2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by ProPain
(took my laptop along just to play!)
Uitslover! :p

(There's no English translation.)

But great in any case! I think it's going great now that we are at one turn a day again! I made contact with a second person! :yeah: That makes it more interesting anyway, so that I want to play even more frequently. ;)

Plux
Jan 26, 2003, 12:51 PM
If any outsiders still want to follow this game, I put my log online at http://62.251.31.100/AO1/log.html. No access allowed for fellow players!!! Note that I'm hosting it on my own pc, so there may be times that it is not available. I already asked Matrix to put a link on his AO1-site

Matrix
Jan 26, 2003, 04:32 PM
I didn't take the time to fit it in yet, Plux. Sorry. :( But I will soon. ;)

As a statistics freak, I checked all the dates I received a savegame and sent it forth. Unfortunately, of the times that I played and sent it from the university I don't know when I sent it, so I have no reference of those turns. :undecide:

Cruise
Jan 26, 2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Matrix

Uitslover! :p

(There's no English translation.)



Now who's the "uitslover"? :rolleyes: :D

Matrix
Jan 26, 2003, 04:54 PM
You got a point. ;)

Matrix
Jan 26, 2003, 05:32 PM
And now I'm off to bed. ;)

(Purple means unknown.)

ERIKK
Jan 27, 2003, 03:00 AM
You are gonna put this on your cv? "Reliable PBEM player"? ;)

Well, in any case I can tell you I am not the one who holds back the save. This morning I played my turn before leaving to work, that is around 6:55 in the morning! :eek:

Now, who can beat that... :satan:

ProPain
Jan 27, 2003, 03:31 AM
I'm not working today so I wasn't up that early, but I played it and send it a 10:10. Maybe 2 turns today?

anarres
Jan 27, 2003, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by ProPain
Maybe 2 turns today? I recon that would be a record.

Many 8 player PBEMs can take a day when everyone is quick, but 2 turns in a day would have to be a record :D

Matrix
Jan 28, 2003, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by ProPain
I'm not working today so I wasn't up that early, but I played it and send it a 10:10. Maybe 2 turns today?
Apparently not. :undecide:

But it is doable! Redwatch can play around 22:30 and 17:30, n'est-ce pas? So if he gets the savegame before 17:30. :rolleyes:

(I keep hoping. ;))

Plux
Jan 28, 2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by ERIKK
Well, in any case I can tell you I am not the one who holds back the save. This morning I played my turn before leaving to work, that is around 6:55 in the morning! :eek:

Now, who can beat that... :satan: Remember this post? :cool: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Matrix
By the way, I received the savegame from Plux at 05:35 this night!
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Yes, I just finished GOTM XV BTW: Today I played my turn when I was at my girlfriend's using Remote Desktop :scan:

ERIKK
Jan 28, 2003, 07:16 AM
:lol: You use PCanywhere?

Your girl let you install this stuff on her PC??? Wow!

Matrix
Jan 28, 2003, 07:40 AM
Nice, Plux! :goodjob:
Originally posted by ERIKK
Your girl let you install this stuff on her PC??? Wow!
That's interesting: I may install anything I like on my girlfriend's computer, but she was pissed when I re-arranged the (chaotic) start menu for her. :rolleyes:

Plux
Jan 28, 2003, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by ERIKK
:lol: You use PCanywhere?

Your girl let you install this stuff on her PC??? Wow! No, I use VNC. It's freeware and has a built-in java webserver so you can access your pc through any browser. Very handy, although the graphic data throughput is not very good. But I don't mind, it works..

Of course she doesn't let me install just anything on her pc :p , but I love her anyway :love:

Matrix
Jan 29, 2003, 05:07 PM
http://www.straland.com/junk/whereisthesave.gif

ProPain
Jan 29, 2003, 05:16 PM
sent it to redwatch yesterday at 20:45. Last one I saw

Matrix
Jan 30, 2003, 02:03 AM
Plux sent it to me yesterday evening. :)

(By the way Plux, the e-mail came after a 7/8 minutes. Which has been very usual.)

Kemal
Jan 30, 2003, 02:31 AM
Matrix, could you please resend the 2510 BC save because something must have gone wrong when sending the save. It is only 43k large and when loading PTW gives an invalid save file error.

When will we be collecting our demographics again? Shall we keep on doing that every 500 years in the pre-AD era, meaning I should send a screenshot from this turn or the next, or shall we make the period turn-specific (every 10 turns)?

There have been some very interesting developments in this game recently, can't wait to get some additional turns going. :)

Plux
Jan 30, 2003, 05:39 AM
I want to let you guys know I will be gone this weekend. From tomorrow around 18.00 GMT until prolly monday or tuesday I won't be able to play my turn.

ERIKK
Jan 30, 2003, 12:28 PM
:hmm:

I still have no save in my mail! Do I have email problems?

Kemal
Jan 30, 2003, 12:36 PM
A little patience, ERIKK. :)

Matrix delivered a semi-complete savegame, but he has resend it and the game is on the move again now. You should be playing your turn about... now.

ERIKK
Jan 30, 2003, 04:06 PM
Sent 2510BC 19 minutes ago! :)

ProPain
Jan 30, 2003, 04:41 PM
Received from ERIKK : 22:52
Sent to Redwatch : 23:08

Redwatch
Jan 31, 2003, 05:41 AM
i'll play it around 1800 hours...

Matrix
Feb 01, 2003, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by Plux on jan. 30
I want to let you guys know I will be gone this weekend. From tomorrow around 18.00 GMT until prolly monday or tuesday I won't be able to play my turn.
Originally posted by Redwatch on jan. 31
i'll play it around 1800 hours...
Tough luck... :rolleyes:

ProPain
Feb 04, 2003, 04:37 PM
The Iroquois are happy to report they're still going strong. Scouts still roam the lands and discover new terrain. Our medicin men recently also discovered a new tech and smoke signaling away to our neighbours to tell them the good news ( and make em jealous ) Still a bit too early to show a satelite foto of our lands. Maybe in a few turns we'll post a peek

ERIKK
Feb 05, 2003, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by ProPain
The Iroquois are happy to report they're still going strong. Scouts still roam the lands and discover new terrain. Our medicin men recently also discovered a new tech and smoke signaling away to our neighbours to tell them the good news ( and make em jealous ) Still a bit too early to show a satelite foto of our lands. Maybe in a few turns we'll post a peek Hehe... american scouts dont need smokesignals to contact new friends! Last experiments all failed and gigantic woods were set on fire! ;) We just watch over the waters and see just a tip of strange colored lands on the other side of the channel! Legends speak of ruthless barbarians living over the water. Our scientists soon will try to find a way to travel over these waters to exterminate these savages! ;)

ProPain
Feb 05, 2003, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by ERIKK
Legends speak of ruthless barbarians living over the water. Our scientists soon will try to find a way to travel over these waters to exterminate these savages! ;)

Our American friend speaks with an agressive tongue. The peaceloving Iroquous would never exterminate poor savages. We strife to pacify, revert and assimilate them into the great Iroquois Nation. Of course there's always the risk that some overzealous Iroquois Warrior collects the odd scalp......but if you want an omelet you gotta break some eggs.:D

ERIKK
Feb 05, 2003, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by ProPain
Our American friend speaks with an agressive tongue. The peaceloving Iroquous would never exterminate poor savages. We strife to pacify, revert and assimilate them into the great Iroquois Nation. Of course there's always the risk that some overzealous Iroquois Warrior collects the odd scalp......but if you want an omelet you gotta break some eggs.:D :hmm: we learned that from the harsh live of the jungle, it makes you a real man! No sissy "culture things" for a junglebrother! :)

ProPain
Feb 05, 2003, 03:17 AM
Assimilate has nothing to do with culture in the Iroquois book. We think more along the lines of gently taking over there settlements, stationing a few good troops there, put them to work on some badly needed improvements (maybe use a whip, but gently also :evil: )and issue food rations that kinda select the strong from the weak.

But extermination is such a harsh word.

Kemal
Feb 05, 2003, 04:15 AM
While their fierce neighbours quarrel over how to subdue savages across the sea, Sjah Kemal has had visions (not after using too much of the Iroquois' pemmican, mind you ;) ) over even more fertile lands spanning an entire planet, located many, many miles away. :)

Already every effort is made to ensure the Persian people being the first to reach these new grounds! In the meantime however, the Sjah has noticed that already the lands near the Persian borders are beginning to get crowded with others, and "gently" urges these bow and arrow wielding warriors not to grab more nearby territory.

Matrix
Feb 05, 2003, 06:12 AM
Whatever. Straland rules. :D

We know a lot of surroundings and have good and friendly contact with our neighbours. Even though it appears Straland is far more superior in development. :p

Starting with scouts have major advantages! All those hut that never give barbarians, but do give technologies and even a complete city. http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/yeah.gif (I'd rather have a settler, but ok.)

ERIKK
Feb 05, 2003, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by Matrix
Whatever. Straland rules. :D
We know a lot of surroundings and have good and friendly contact with our neighbours. Even though it appears Straland is far more superior in development. :p
Well, you must be terrifying for your neighbours...

Matrix
Feb 05, 2003, 08:32 AM
I'm never afraid. :satan: But always cautious. ;)

Matrix
Feb 06, 2003, 05:30 AM
I wanted to apologize for not being available yesterday since 15:00, but it appeared that's not necessary. :rolleyes:

ERIKK
Feb 06, 2003, 05:52 AM
So, where is the save? Last one I have seen was 2 days ago...

ProPain
Feb 06, 2003, 07:49 AM
last one I got was 4/2. played it and sent it to redwatch at 22:50

Matrix
Feb 06, 2003, 12:05 PM
So Redwatch or Plux has it.

Play! ;)

Kemal
Feb 07, 2003, 03:30 AM
The game is on the move again! [dance]

On to ERIKK!

Matrix
Feb 07, 2003, 03:40 AM
Yea. I rushed the game when I got it, just before I left home to catch the bus. :eek:

Matrix
Feb 10, 2003, 10:54 AM
I cycled to the university especially to play my turn, but it seems that was for nothing. No save, so it'll have to wait till tomorrow... :(

Redwatch, could you try to play the turn before we all go to work in the morning (or the evening before that)? I think it's you, but it might as well be ProPain... :rolleyes: No offence to anyone though.

Kemal
Feb 10, 2003, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Matrix
I cycled to the university especially to play my turn

That's exactly the spirit and dedication we need to get this game through to the end, way to go Matrix :goodjob:

We were actually at 1 turn a day during the weekend, come on people, it's still not to late to try and keep that pace going during this week! (Well, it is for today but please don't let Matrix make his educational trips to the university for nothing ;))

ProPain
Feb 10, 2003, 02:04 PM
Maybe I'm to late for redwatch to play it before he goes to work in the evening. What time do you need it the latest Redwatch?

ERIKK
Feb 10, 2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Kemal
(Well, it is for today but please don't let Matrix make his educational trips to the university for nothing ;))

:lol: Hehehe,
Kemal, this type of sardonic humor is exactly the fuel we need to put our DDPP world in flames very soon...! ;)

ProPain should better watch out making his smoke signals now! ;)

Plux
Feb 10, 2003, 05:09 PM
IIRC Redwatch always was able to play between 17.30h and 18.30 and around 23.00-ish. Most of the times I get it around midnight, so I guess he often misses your dinner-time save..

Cruise
Feb 10, 2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Matrix
I cycled to the university especially to play my turn

Don't let IT-beheer catch ya, those "paupers" have given me a 2 week ban once! :D

ProPain
Feb 10, 2003, 05:22 PM
if he needs it before 18:30 that's a problem because i rarely have it myself by that time

Matrix
Feb 10, 2003, 05:33 PM
I happen to be here after all. :rolleyes: Unforunately the save is still not in.
Originally posted by Cruise
Don't let IT-beheer catch ya, those "paupers" have given me a 2 week ban once! :D
They won't I always play downstairs (in het "ei"), where they never come check. By the way, playing one turn isn't very noticable, is it? ;)

Anyway, about the time: I never expected Redwatch to receive it before 17:30, but I do at 22:30, so that Plux can play his turn between 23:00 and 17:00 the next day. Preferably earlier, so that I don't have to wait for it.

Enfin, it's gonna take a day longer now. Pity.

Matrix
Feb 11, 2003, 01:35 PM
I think the game is stuck again.

Last turn: 2350 BC.
Received: 09-02-2003 16:00 (exact)
Sent: 09-02-2002 16:15

So who's got it?

ERIKK
Feb 11, 2003, 01:41 PM
Last turn: 2350 BC.
Received: 10-02-2003 +/- 11:00
Sent: 10-02-2002 18:37

ERIKK
Feb 11, 2003, 01:46 PM
Suggestion:

Lets start, from the next turn on, to sent emails to all members when sending the game to the next player. That way we always know where it is.

Who is in favour?
- I am.

Matrix
Feb 11, 2003, 02:21 PM
Sure.

Kemal
Feb 11, 2003, 03:12 PM
Yes, that's a good idea, no more "where's the save" confusion.

ERIKK
Feb 11, 2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Kemal
Yes, that's a good idea, no more "where's the save" confusion. But that doesn't change the fact that the save is with Redwatch for two days now (I assume). We can switch the discussion then to: what has happened to him???? ;)

Matrix
Feb 13, 2003, 02:12 PM
For all lurkers: I've updated my log again! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/yeah.gif

I've had war with someone already. :eek: But it appeared to be a complete misunderstanding. We even don't know how it got there; I just pressed F4 for fun, and there it was. Very strange. :rolleyes:

I think we can be open about who knows who, don't you think? :) I believe everyone knows now, or not?

ERIKK
Feb 14, 2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by Matrix
I think we can be open about who knows who, don't you think? :) I believe everyone knows now, or not? Let's wait till we all have contacts with each other! Like in the real game.

ERIKK
Feb 15, 2003, 06:04 AM
Yesterday evening I entered the twilight zone and sent the wrong save three times :eek:

I have sent the correct save the ProPain now (lets hope so!). ;)

I'll be back on sunday around 17:00 the play the next turn!

ERIKK

Matrix
Feb 18, 2003, 03:39 AM
I just actually got a savegame! :eek: I almost forgot how to play the game. http://www.smilies.nl/eviltongue.gif

Kemal
Feb 18, 2003, 04:09 AM
Will be playing my turn soon.

Let's all take screenshots of our demographics again next turn. Next turn meaning the turn after this one, so starting when Matrix has recieved the turn from Plux again.

Can't wait for contact with the "others" in this game, that should really give a huge additional amount of info for Matrix's site.

ERIKK
Feb 25, 2003, 02:25 PM
:hmm: Well?

Are we still playing? Is somebody on holiday?

(Last save I sent was 2150 BC 19-02-2003 07:18 CET)

Plux
Feb 25, 2003, 04:47 PM
Remember that Matrix had to turn his attention to the loss of his girlfriends mother. I guess he'll be back any day now..

Matrix
Feb 25, 2003, 06:17 PM
But I'm back now and the game is on! Off to Kemal. ;)

ERIKK
Feb 28, 2003, 06:21 AM
I sent it to ProPain the 26th!!!!

Where is it now? I should have had it again by now! :mad:

Come on people, this one should survive!!!

Kemal
Feb 28, 2003, 07:59 AM
I don't think ProPain will be able to play this weekend as he's celebrating carnaval.

Hopefully, he has been able to play the turn you've sent him already, ERIKK, so we can all play our own turn by the time he returns.

Isn't Redwatch after Propain? Maybe he has the turn now?

Plux
Feb 28, 2003, 11:21 AM
I'll be less available for the coming week, as I am moving to another house, which needs a few days work. After the movement I am prolly even more less available, as there is no internet connection yet. But maybe I'll get a dial-in connection or some other alternative for the transition period, so we'll see how that goes. No need to worry yet :)

Matrix
Mar 01, 2003, 10:19 AM
Erm, new patch, but for US version only. If any of you find a new and funny file called "Civilization3X.exe"... :rolleyes:

ERIKK
Mar 01, 2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Matrix
Erm, new patch, but for US version only. If any of you find a new and funny file called "Civilization3X.exe"... :rolleyes: No, not yet...

ProPain
Mar 02, 2003, 01:45 PM
Hello people,

I'm back and sobered up! I got the game you sent me 26/2, played it and send it on to redwatch 26/2 21:30

ERIKK
Mar 09, 2003, 08:50 AM
Redwatch, shall we continue our game?

Where are you?

Matrix
Mar 13, 2003, 05:24 PM
I've updated my log again. :D http://www.straland.com/DutchPBEM/

The players should not look. ;)

Plux
Mar 13, 2003, 06:28 PM
Me too, although it won't be viewable for long at this adress:

http://whiskey.demon.nl/AO1/log.html

Matrix
Mar 20, 2003, 01:38 PM
C'mon, Plux! You got the savegame two days now! :eek:

ERIKK
Mar 20, 2003, 01:40 PM
Last one I sent to ProPain was 1950BC on 13-mar-2003 21:17

Plux
Mar 31, 2003, 08:02 AM
Hi Guys,

First of all I'd like to say sorry for holding up this game. Since two weeks I've moved and for now have no internet at the new home, that's why I've been so silent. Also, yesterday I came back from a week of snowboarding in the French Alps, and wasn't even able to play civ3 at all. Today is my first day back at the uni, and I'll take the save with me, and hope to send it on tomorrow or the day after. I think it'll take at least 3 to 4 weeks to get internet at my new place, so I will prolly still continue to slow down progression, but I promise to try to play every turn in two or three days. Again, I'm very sorry to hold up the various PBEM's im in and hope to be back @ full online strength asap ;)

Matrix
Mar 31, 2003, 01:45 PM
Ah, the response I've been waiting for for two weeks!

I'm sure playing at the uni won't be a problem with the time considering the fact that you're the one who can play between 23:00 and 17:00. ;) I can't wait to play my turn again!

P.S.: my 3000th post!! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/dance.gif

ERIKK
Apr 07, 2003, 07:02 AM
Hey ProPain, a week ago I sent you the save! What happened with it? :satan:

Kemal
Apr 07, 2003, 07:03 AM
So, where's the save now?

Last one I have recieved (and sent) was at 2nd of April, but I haven't recieved anything after that. Did you recieve that save from me Erikk?

ERIKK
Apr 07, 2003, 07:05 AM
he he, I stalked you! :satan:

ProPain
Apr 07, 2003, 08:57 AM
In from ERIKK : 2/4/03 23:19
out to Redwatch: 3/4/03 10:54

Matrix
Apr 07, 2003, 01:25 PM
Haven't seen it yet.

ProPain
Apr 09, 2003, 04:36 AM
Redwatch, did you get my save? I sent it to both your email adresses considering your chello problems.

Plux
Apr 09, 2003, 08:41 AM
I got nothing from Redwatch so I guess its still with him

ERIKK
Apr 24, 2003, 03:53 PM
We have a new player!

And the winner is...... Aggie!!! :)

He takes over Redwatch (missing in action) from now on. ProPain, I sent you his email.

Aggie
Apr 24, 2003, 04:02 PM
Hello all, I'm not disappointed, but I am Dutch. Oh wait, I'm disappointed about yesterday :( . That qualifies, I guess.

I hear that I have the Egyptians? Nice, very nice :)

Kemal
Apr 25, 2003, 02:13 AM
Great news, welcome Aggie! :)

Looks like DDPP is ready for action again. :cool:

Aggie
Apr 25, 2003, 10:08 AM
He I was able to play the turn :)
However, Plux offers me -EDIT- something. Wat should I do with that Plux?

by the way: my msn = ageling@xs4all.nl

Matrix
Apr 25, 2003, 04:04 PM
Whooo... Talking about openness... ;)

Although we all figured out who knows who we don't negotiate through the forum...yet. We decided not to talk about things when not everybody knows everybody.

The Aztecs didn't know the English acquired Gunpowder from the Germans IRL. :confused:

Aggie
Apr 25, 2003, 05:54 PM
:wallbash: What an entrance. Breaking all the rules with my first serious comment . :cry:

ProPain
Apr 26, 2003, 02:32 PM
doesn't matter Aggie, I think everyone knows 'who knows who' by now anyway. There has been a lot of speculating going on.

Matrix
Apr 26, 2003, 05:41 PM
Wow, relax buddy! It's not like you've spoiled the entire game. ;) In fact I think it matters d***. I just said it in case you're gonna be too open in the future.

When we all know each other we can all say whatever we like! (You may even post your map if you don't mind. :rolleyes: ) I can't wait till that moment has come, so that we can debate openly about our/others atrocities or good deeds. :D

By the way, Plux, what's the status of your internet at home? Any idea when you'll have it?

Aggie
Apr 28, 2003, 11:30 AM
Don't worry matrix. I wanted to make sure that you all knew that I got the message :) I'm ready, I know the password (thanks Matrix ;) ). But still I have to understand the meaning of the offer that was made. Only then I can play.

Matrix
Apr 28, 2003, 05:16 PM
You got a deal; do something with it, or abort! I wanna play! It's been too long!! :cry:

Aggie
Apr 28, 2003, 05:18 PM
OK, I'll cancel that deal and play tomorrow!

Aggie
Apr 29, 2003, 11:51 AM
I sent the save to Plux

ERIKK
May 01, 2003, 06:01 AM
:hmm: ...no save in mailbox detected yet... :scan:

Kemal
May 01, 2003, 12:57 PM
Must still be with Plux then, haven't recieved anything from Matrix yet... :(

Matrix
May 02, 2003, 12:13 AM
I haven't received it myself yet. ;)
And I hoped I could play it monday... :(

Anyway, I'm back sunday night.

Plux
May 02, 2003, 09:05 AM
I just checked the status of my ADSL-application, and it'll prolly be a week or two, so we will have to wait just a little untill we can try to get back to 1 turn/day. Just picked up the save @ uni, and I will send it on saturday night/sunday morning..

Matrix
May 05, 2003, 05:55 AM
I played it yesterday night around 0:30 which was obviously too late, because I exited without saving and didn't think about sending the none existent savegame. :rolleyes: But just now I played and sent it. :)

Matrix
May 05, 2003, 06:41 AM
We seem to have problems with the savegame; I've played my turn en sent it to Kemal, but when he loads the game, he starts with my empire and has to finish the turn before he can play his own turn. :huh:

He has played his turn this way, but I hope we won't have to continue playing this way!

ERIKK
May 05, 2003, 10:12 AM
I am on 1.21 but can play 1.14. What version did you play on (and Kemal)?

Kemal
May 05, 2003, 12:48 PM
That could indeed pose a problem, though I do not think this is related to it, as Matrix loaded the game he sent me himself and the exact same thing happened on his machine.

I'm still at 1.14, but I'll upgrade to 1.21 very soon, almost certainly before I play another DDPP turn.

Matrix
May 05, 2003, 02:12 PM
I played this game with 1.14, though I have 1.21 too. I'll load the savegame with 1.21 too and see if it goes well then...

Matrix
May 05, 2003, 02:18 PM
:wallbash: Now that I replayed it I know what went wrong: I saved it not by ending my turn, but just saving it from the menu. :rolleyes:

Kemal
May 05, 2003, 02:30 PM
Good, that's solved then, and don't worry, I haven't changed any of your production queues, nor poprushed some spearmen in your cities....:satan: ;)

(Actually, I tried not to look at anything, just ended your turn as quickly as possible :) )

ERIKK
May 05, 2003, 02:36 PM
To propain on 1.14f!

ProPain
May 06, 2003, 06:30 AM
Switched to 1.21 today. If I were the last I suppose we can switch.

Matrix
May 06, 2003, 11:01 AM
Great! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/yeah.gif

Plux
May 06, 2003, 11:16 AM
I'm still @ 1.14f as well, but I have 1.21f waiting to be installed at home, so switching should be np

Aggie
May 06, 2003, 02:48 PM
I'm at 1.21 as well. Also 1.14 possible, but this is the last game on it :)

Kemal
May 06, 2003, 04:13 PM
I'm at 1.21 now too, so after Plux upgrades there'll be no more problems with that.

ProPain
May 07, 2003, 08:05 AM
sent my game to Aggie on 1.21

Aggie
May 07, 2003, 10:18 AM
sent to Plux

Plux
May 08, 2003, 07:06 AM
I have some issues with installing 1.21f, because on my laptop with XP Home the patch won't install. So i have to take it with me and try to get it installed om my XP Pro system at home, and I can send the save on only later this night or even tomorrow.

Plux
May 08, 2003, 11:36 AM
Problems solved, game sent to Matrix.. for some reason I downloaded the patch with a macOS-system and it didn't work.. After downloading it on a W2K-pc, everything was ok.. strange, but hey! :)

Matrix
May 08, 2003, 12:53 PM
Avoid Mac at all times. :evil:

ProPain
May 09, 2003, 03:22 AM
At least avoid Mac the Knife.....

Matrix
May 09, 2003, 05:41 AM
I'm gone till monday again. Sorry.

Aggie
May 11, 2003, 01:38 PM
Sent the save to Plux

Matrix
May 16, 2003, 07:56 AM
Last savegame I received was three days ago. Where is it now?

You know, I have been trying to make a Perl/CGI or PHP script where we can go to when we've played a savegame and sent it on to the next one so that everyone can see where it is. (Talking about Big Brother. :satan: ) But I'm too unfamiliar with these languages. :(

More important: I've updated my log (http://www.straland.com/DutchPBEM/) again! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/yeah.gif (For lurkers only. ;))

Matrix
May 16, 2003, 07:58 AM
Now I read Aggie's sig. I suppose he won't get the savegame today since Plux probably got it... :undecide:

ProPain
May 16, 2003, 08:10 AM
aggie got the save from me yesterday, plux is up after Aggie

Aggie
May 16, 2003, 10:05 AM
I sent the save to plux yesterday. And glad to see that my sig works ;)

Matrix
May 16, 2003, 07:39 PM
I played the game today. :) Now we'll have to do the rest of the month without...

ERIKK
May 17, 2003, 03:27 AM
To PP!

Matrix
May 18, 2003, 01:10 PM
This is a graph with the scores of everyone minus the average. So if your score is 50, but the average is 60, this graph says it's 50 - 60 = -10. It's so frayed because the game rounds the scores.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/DDPPscore.gif

Matrix
May 18, 2003, 01:14 PM
Explanation (or discussion):
1. Aggie (formerly Redwatch), Plux and Kemal started so low because they built their capital one turn later than the rest did, I think.
2. It looks like ProPain and I got our "bonus" city on almost the exact same turn; perhaps he one turn earlier.
3. ERIKK's doing bad. :p

ERIKK
May 18, 2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Matrix
Explanation (or discussion):
3. ERIKK's doing bad. :p

Have mercy on me!!! Remember I am doing col's Tarzan act in this game!

Well done by the way, Matrix!

Thanks.

Matrix
May 18, 2003, 05:30 PM
"Tarzan act"? :confused:

Anyway, I've updated my log (http://www.straland.com/DutchPBEM/) again. Players: don't look! :eek:

But I've also updated the open, common page:
http://www.straland.com/DDPP/
Do check this and tell me when you have any remarks or comments. ;) Especially on the page about yourself...

Apologies to ProPain, by the way. He sent me something once and I've done nothing with it. :o

ERIKK
May 19, 2003, 03:21 AM
You know, Tarzan, lord of the jungle... ;)

ProPain
May 19, 2003, 03:50 AM
no problem Matrix. Do you still have that or do I need to resend it?

and sent the game to Aggie

Kemal
May 19, 2003, 04:01 AM
Very nice work, Matrix! :goodjob:

Looks like Aggie's influence in the game is already showing, as the Egyptians are moving away from Persia in the graph. :(

btw, what kind of stuff can be sent to you for the site? I imagine you yourself don't want to see too much of it before we have contacted eachother in the game.

Plux
May 19, 2003, 10:28 AM
Whooo! I am online again (at home that is)!!! Sad to see that we now have to wait for Aggie for 2 weeks :(

Matrix
May 21, 2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by ProPain
no problem Matrix. Do you still have that or do I need to resend it?
I can't find it; please resend it.
Originally posted by Kemal
btw, what kind of stuff can be sent to you for the site? I imagine you yourself don't want to see too much of it before we have contacted eachother in the game.
Eh, well, if you have experience with making websites and you like making them you could make your own log and I'll post a link, so that we have all logs bundled together.

But otherwise you could, also if you like, make a text which I'll put in the player-section, where there are now only one or two lines. And you can always make screenshots; just don't show too much. I don't know how much; judge for yourself...
Originally posted by Plux
Whooo! I am online again (at home that is)!!! Sad to see that we now have to wait for Aggie for 2 weeks :(
Yeah, nice timing. ;) Anyway, congratulations!

Matrix
May 29, 2003, 03:27 PM
Two days we have to wait yet and Aggie's back. :)

I was wondering: am I the only one with a log of our game? :( I didn't find any spoiler threads on anarres' forum. (Not to read it, I was simply curious about it. ;)) I believe this is the longest multimultiplayer game alive, so that's quite a prestation; worth documenting... ;)

Plux
May 30, 2003, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by Matrix
Two days we have to wait yet and Aggie's back. :)

I was wondering: am I the only one with a log of our game? :( I didn't find any spoiler threads on anarres' forum. (Not to read it, I was simply curious about it. ;)) I believe this is the longest multimultiplayer game alive, so that's quite a prestation; worth documenting... ;) Can't wait to get started again!

I am logging too btw, the link is in my signature.. (but it's prohibited access for fellow players)

digger760
May 30, 2003, 05:12 AM
hmmm what year are you up to...i'm in the nh1 game, with 4 players and we are up to 1100BC doing about 4-5 turns a week.

Still for the eight of you to persist considering the delays you've had is very impressive. keep it up.

Matrix
May 30, 2003, 09:46 AM
We are with six. And we've had some periods where nothing happened and periods with 1 turn a day. You can view the progress in my log. We're now at 1750 BC.

Aggie
May 31, 2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Kemal
Looks like Aggie's influence in the game is already showing, as the Egyptians are moving away from Persia in the graph. :(


Yeah, Redwatch used a different tactic than I would use.... Stil doesn't feel like my game, but I'm hoping to change that :)

Sent to Plux.

Matrix
May 31, 2003, 04:31 PM
Just played my turn! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/dance.gif I received it while watching Dit Was Het Nieuws. :undecided:

And don't worry, Aggie. We have in fact just begun. :sad:

ProPain
Jun 03, 2003, 06:06 PM
Erik, could you change my email adres to use _AT_ instead of @. Im receiving a little more spam lately, and am trying to reduce risk. maybe we could remove the email adresses altogether since everyone has em stored in their email prgram alrdy

Matrix
Jun 03, 2003, 06:33 PM
I did it for him. :D

ERIKK
Jun 04, 2003, 03:05 AM
We are at 1700BC now and over 400 replies I guess...

I think it is time for a new thread, right?

ProPain
Jun 04, 2003, 03:22 AM
Thanx for the change Matrix.

Redwatch
Nov 13, 2003, 12:53 PM
Thats bin a while......... after my car accident.... on april the 8th...
well, the game is dead ???

Probably you guys don"t even read this ....

Sorry for not showing up after that, but the docters wouldnt let me out for a few months.....

ERIKK
Nov 13, 2003, 12:58 PM
Check the second thread Redwatch! This game is far from dead. Good to hear you have recovered from your accident. Aggie has taken over your empire but he is on holiday now so Killer is governing the Egyptians at the moment

link: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55362&pagenumber=6

Kemal
Nov 13, 2003, 01:04 PM
Hi Redwatch, as Erikk pointed out the game is far from dead, we're planning its first annual celebration actually!

Sorry to hear about your car-accident, but I'm glad you recovered. As said, Aggie, and now Killer, are controlling Egypt at the moment. You can check Matrix's site too for some fast and very good general info. :)

Matrix
Nov 14, 2003, 08:40 AM
Wow, you're still alive! So it was a car crash that made you disappear. Sorry to hear that, but a good thing you're recovered. :)

To avoid confusion, let's keep it in one thread. ;)

Go to last post of second thread here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&goto=lastpost&threadid=55362)