GAME IS ON ITS WAY!

Agent Orange™ DDPP homepage: See this funny page! (http://www.straland.com/DDPP/)

Game characteristics:
- no accelerated production
- version 114f
- Monarch level
- standard map, pangea, 5 billion years, warm, wet
- standard barbs
- all victory conditions

player1: Matrix, Scandinavia
player2: Kemal, Persia
player3: ERIKK, America
player4: ProPain, Iroquois
player5: Aggie, Egypt
player6: Plux, Japanese

Player #1 layout:
Email: matrix_AT_straland.com
Civ: Scandinavia
Name: Matrix:
Country Name: Straland
Noun: Stralanders
Adj: Stralandic
Title: Emperor

Player #2 layout:
Email: Jilkocfc_AT_hotmail.com
Civ: Persia, Ottomans
Name: Kemal
Title: Default
Country name: Default
Noun: Default
Adj: Default
Title: Default

Player #3 layout:
Email: erikkost_AT_xs4all.nl
Civ: America
Name : ERIKK
Country Name : ThisIsIt
Noun : This
Adj : IsIt
Title : Ruler

Player #4 layout:
Email: h.t.wink_AT_cqprocesmanagement.nl
Civ: Iroquois
Name : ProPain
Country Name : default
Noun : default
Adj : default
Title : default

Player #5 layout:
Email: ageling_AT_xs4all.nl
Civ: Egypt
Name : Aggie
Country Name : default
Noun : default
Adj : default
Title : default

Player #6 layout:
Email: plux_AT_tweakers.net of bram_AT_tweakers.net
Civ: Japanese (or any other)
Name : Plux
Country Name : default
Noun : default
Adj : default
Title : default

im here i want persians, ottomons, or vikings in that order

tiny map pangea 70% 4ba normal and normal with raging barb

wow. 1.01? the german copy hav 1.04 on it.... :-(

EDIT

Dutch are 101 and playing with others (1.14f) fails (as i discovered now). :mad:

lets go 1v1v1 is good
no allies at all

regicide
spacetrvler@hotmail.com

Whoa! Stop the spamming!

- Excess posts deleted

I would certainly like to participate (and I am a DDP player that's for sure!) BUT... I don't have much time to play the next 7 days. I'm certainly out for this weekend and have lots of tentamens (exams for non DPP players ;)) the next week. :(

So for some serious play I'll only be available from the 6th of December, (but I'll a lot of time to play then :)) and I guess that's a bit too long of a wait to be participating in this game, right? :(

Well, i don't have much time this weekend either and i think it will take some time to fill in the players. PBEM does not take that much time as players will have to wait for each other (see the other PBEM games). I can only play in the evening for instance. It wont take hours each day, more like a couple of minutes (possibly a few times on a day). ;)

Originally posted by Kemal
I would certainly like to participate (and I am a DDP player that's for sure!) BUT... I don't have much time to play the next 7 days. I'm certainly out for this weekend and have lots of tentamens (exams for non DPP players ;)) the next week. :(

So for some serious play I'll only be available from the 6th of December, (but I'll a lot of time to play then :)) and I guess that's a bit too long of a wait to be participating in this game, right? :(

Bu mesele 7 gunde cozulmiyecek

The problem wont be solved in 7 days

If it's not to time comsuming I'm in. I'd like to be iroquois

Got PtW and stayed non-patched since I read al the troubles with patching. I'm mad as hell, this will the last infogrames/firaxis game I bought for quite some time.


ProPain

Originally posted by ProPain
If it's not to time comsuming I'm in. I'd like to be iroquois

Got PtW and stayed non-patched since I read al the troubles with patching. I'm mad as hell, this will the last infogrames/firaxis game I bought for quite some time.


ProPain

Welcome :) , I'm happy to put you in!

Erikk, nice of you to start a PBEM game and I'd like to join, but I won't play any game with accelerated production or any stupid adaption just to make the game faster! After all, with PBEM acceleration isn't even necessary!

So I'm in, but without accelerated production.

Matrix: Scandinavia
Country Name: Straland
Noun: Stralanders
Adj: Stralandic (or is it the other way around?)
Title: Emperor

By the way, if more than 5 people want to join, I'd suggest that these AI can be changed as well...

As a matter of fact, I'd like to play without any AI at all, but of course I shouldn't ask to many. ;)

Well, you convinced me ERIKK, I'll sign in too, but as I mentioned above if you guys want to start and play large sessions, I won't be able to. Maybe some turns an evening but never hourly sessions (before the 6th that is :)).

Name: Kemal
Favourite civs: Persia, Ottomans
Title, Country name, Noun, Adj: Default
I never play accelerated, so I prefer just standard rules (no acceleration, all vic. conditions plus culture flipping allowed), Archipelago large/huge map, all other settings random.

Matrix: Your avatar doesn't look good this way, are you sure you don't want to let your doom trooper respawn back to life again. Maybe you can find some supercharge in one of the secret forums ;)

Well 2 more, great!, we are on 4 players then. Let's wait one more day for some more players to join. Still 4 open slots! :scan:

- No acc production.
- About the AI players. I would like to see the remaining spaces filled up if any, especially when we play on an larger map. But with a max of 8 players a standard map would be big enough of course! But let's have most votes counted on this. :)

Agreed. :)

Here's my info

Player #2 layout:
Email: h.t.wink@cqprocesmanagement.nl
Civ: Iroquois
Name : ProPain
Country Name : default
Noun : default
Adj : default
Title : default


ProPain

Just upgraded to 114f with the new crack (which needs the original (bought) CD), but gamemaking at gamespy still sucks. DirectIP will be a must.

Shall we all upgrade first (i can sent you all the crack) before starting this PBEM (I still like to play)?

ERIKK

(About this crack see http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37852 )

I don't know if 1.14f is compatible with 1.01f, otherwise upgrading will be a must for all players, or you should downgrade your game to 1.01f again ;).

Have some problems with my e-mail now, should be solved quickly though. I'll PM the correct address to the players once we're going to start the game.

Thanks for the invitation, ERIKK, but I think that PBEM is a bit too slow for my taste.

Well if we can play with v1.14, why not? :D

I guess you have to change the name of this PBEM game. ;)

I unfortunally cannot change thread names. Maybe a moderator can! ;) But I will change the first message of this thread. Also, I have sent an email with the winrar-file to Matrix (the straland account from your website) and Propain.

As soon as I hear from Kemal I'll sent it to him too. :D

I already got it from Mercade. :p But thanks anyway.

I already got it from Mercade. But thanks anyway.

Okidoki!

So it's official now! It will be Agent Orange? Ok by me! Maybe you can change this threads name? I assume you are still a moderator.

got the link form mercade too, but didn't d/l it yet so thanx! I emptied my mailbox and I'll install it tomorow.

ProPain

Originally posted by ERIKK
Maybe you can change this threads name? I assume you are still a moderator.
Yea, I'm still a mod, but only of the GOTM forum. I'm not a super-mod. :p Never was.

I will PM Willenvanorange, Plux, Shabbaman and Beammeuppy. Hopefully some of them will read it and join!

I would like to join in.I'm not dutch,I'm English and live in Kent,does that disqaulify me?Just 1 or 2 questions,what level are you thinking of?What is direct IP?
I've PM'd Mercade asking for the 1.14f crack.The time differential is only 1 hour,so no problem there.I have won on Emperor level,only played it once and am comfortable with monarch level.

Last thing I wanna say for today (this thread grows like a madman! :eek: ):

During the game, I'll take a screenshot of the map (of one of the advisor screens) every turn, and I'll keep up a log. Both will be on my website, which is strictly forbidden for your eyes! ;)

Originally posted by rodneysandy
I would like to join in.I'm not dutch,I'm English and live in Kent,does that disqaulify me?Just 1 or 2 questions,what level are you thinking of?What is direct IP?
I've PM'd Mercade asking for the 1.14f crack.The time differential is only 1 hour,so no problem there.I have won on Emperor level,only played it once and am comfortable with monarch level.

Well, it was "partly" supposed to be a Dutch game but I am quite sure we will not make it to 8 players until tomorrow evening! So I am Ok with it. Please give your preferentials etc... and i'll sign you up. ;)

Disclaimer: I don't think so but if others oppose I like to hear it. I do not wanna be "the Boss" here :)

- Direct IP is for internet play, Check the PBEM forum for info.
- Level: I am thinking of Monarch, not to hard, not to easy.

i dont think 1.01 and 1.14 can work
but if you want a pbem go to my ulitmate PBEM of death

About rodneysandy: The more the merrier. ;)

Spacetrvler: I'm sure v1.01 and v1.14 won't work. But what do you mean with the rest?

I have to pass on this one, sorry guys ;)

I'm in for this one, although I have no experience with PTW or PBEM yet. I even thought PBEM would be passing on the savegame by E-mail so there would not be any 'MP-sessions'. But now I understand we do make appointments for playing, and in those sessions the game will be tossed around by E-mail?? And I always play with random civs so I wouldn't even know what civ I'd like to be. Anyway, if I have to choose here are my prefs:

Email: plux@tweakers.net
Civ: Japanese (or any other)
Name : Plux
Country Name : default
Noun : default
Adj : default
Title : default

I'm having problems getting 114f to operate correctly.I downloaded from powergozer(civ 3 pbem games thread)but it keeps saying that it can't find 1fc23.dll file,whatever that is.Any ideas?

Originally posted by rodneysandy
I'm having problems getting 114f to operate correctly.I downloaded from powergozer(civ 3 pbem games thread)but it keeps saying that it can't find 1fc23.dll file,whatever that is.Any ideas?

I don't know. I thought the Dutch version was the English version. But it might be a slightly different version, which, in that case, is causing the problem. I haven't seen this error.

Originally posted by Plux
But now I understand we do make appointments for playing, and in those sessions the game will be tossed around by E-mail??

There are no real plans but I for example will only be able to play in the evening. Just keep an eye out for email if we wanna have some progress ;) (I guess).

rodneysandy: join us, not being dutch is no problem for me.

I'm wondering if we're all gonna upgrade to 1.14 and all be sitting at the comp at the same time. Why not start an IP turn based game, goes a lot quicker than PBEM. Especialy in the beginning this saves lots of time (move worker, save, email, wait, open email, start mine, save, email, wait)


ProPain

Originally posted by ProPain
rodneysandy: join us, not being dutch is no problem for me.

I'm wondering if we're all gonna upgrade to 1.14 and all be sitting at the comp at the same time. Why not start an IP turn based game, goes a lot quicker than PBEM. Especialy in the beginning this saves lots of time (move worker, save, email, wait, open email, start mine, save, email, wait)
ProPain

I guess we can do that also in the near future, that is the plan BTW (remember Agent Orange™) ;) . But the great advantage with PBEM game is that you are not dependent on all players being there. I would like to play a turnbased game sometime if somebody arranges a strict schedule and all players comply with it before starting up. (8 players will be tough I think.)

I hope this will be soon! :goodjob:

We must at least play one turn a day. I doubt we'll play on till 2050 AD, but if so, that's 540 turns! That one-and-a-half year!

Now if that's the consequence of playing with the 8 of us, then that suits me fine. But I do think that especially in the beginning we should play Turn Based. Also because then you don't really have to wait that long.

Yet, as ERIKK said: the feasibility is questionable. And I also don't have the time for that this week.

One thing is vital: If you receive the PBEM, play is as soon as possible! After all, playing one turn per day means that everyone should play one turn per day.

PBEM it is. One turn a day is np for me, I check my email several times day and I'll be able to fit in the odd turn in my schedule. Especially those early turns : pressing enter because your worker is busy and your warrior isn't finished yet :)

Furthermore I say lets go for 540 turns if necessary. It wil be some sort of record if we finish it in 1,5 years!

When can I expect the first save to be mailed?

ProPain

Ok i'm in, I'll need the crack (lets call it patch, cause we alle have the original version of PTW).

I won't be able to play before 2200 hours.

If its a problem, let me know.

I'll play with the :egypt:

Originally posted by Redwatch
Ok i'm in, I'll need the crack (lets call it patch, cause we alle have the original version of PTW).

I won't be able to play before 2200 hours.

If its a problem, let me know.

I'll play with the :egypt:

I'll sign you up and mail you the "patch" tonight. Please give my your (other) preferentials including your email!

When can I expect the first save to be mailed?

This evening, say 1800-1900, i will set up a game!

Originally posted by ERIKK


I'll sign you up and mail you the "patch" tonight. Please give my your (other) preferentials including your email!



This evening, say 1800-1900, i will set up a game!

I don't have the "patch" either,would you please send it to me.
I cannot see PBEM working with so many players,it would take far too long.I have watched the American attempts to do this and they have all fizzled out.
I agree with Matrix that the first part should be turn based at least.To do this we need communications,I suggest all using
microsoft network,we can then see when and who is on line also we can use the audio chat room,setting up a private one.
It is a lot easier to talk than to type,for me ,anyway.
I can send the microsoft programme to anyone that needs it.

We should definitely play the entire game through, IMO. What's the point if we stop, say, when we have finally established our empires and approach the 100 turn mark? It may take long but I'll play 1.5 years and set a record if necessary.

One turn a day is a bit slow but I'm sure we can play longer sessions on certain times when we're all available at the same time (should be possible at least once a month, not?).

As far as my time schedule this week is concerned, as I mentioned in earlier posts I'm very busy and that will give some problems with other players I guess. For instance, Redwatch can play from 2200 hours, but I'm only available today from about 2000-2100 hours, and tomorrow from 1930-2030 hours if absolutely necessary. :(
I'll have more time though once I've finished all my tentamens on friday. :)

I would love to pay a 8-player turn-based game later this month but I'm not sure my connection is fast enough for it.

I don't have the "patch" either,would you please send it to me.
I am a little bit confused here! :confused:

You said you had Powergozer's crack, which did not work on your computer. The crack we are talking about is the same one.

You must do:
- run the 114f patch from FIRAXIS on your PTW version 1.01
- replace the .exe with the crack
- leave the CD in the drive

I cannot see PBEM working with so many players,it would take far too long.I have watched the American attempts to do this and they have all fizzled out.
What must I think of this? :hmm: :hmm:

I say we try the PBEM anyway, but maybe it would be wise if everybody could mention their daily most preferred time of play, so we can set up some sort of playing order.

eg:
propain: 15-16
Erik 18-19
Matrix 20-21
Plux 23-24

Catch my drift? Nothing obligatory, just prefs that will work for most of the days. For me it would be 23-24 or early night hours..

Originally posted by rodneysandy
I don't have the "patch" either,would you please send it to me.
You need to give us your email address, so I can send the crack. And the player who's before you will need that email address.
Originally posted by rodneysandy
I cannot see PBEM working with so many players,it would take far too long.I have watched the American attempts to do this and they have all fizzled out.
Well, we don't want that to happen. I'm sure you don't want to either, so...just be active. Play the game a.s.a.p. when you have received it, and then it won't fizzle out.
Originally posted by rodneysandy
I agree with Matrix that the first part should be turn based at least. To do this we need communications, I suggest all using
microsoft network, we can then see when and who is on line also we can use the audio chat room, setting up a private one. It is a lot easier to talk than to type, for me, anyway. I can send the microsoft programme to anyone that needs it.
Is "programme" English instead of American "program"? :confused:

Anyway, as I read the other responses, I don't think turn based is feasible at all, so we'll just have to email fast these first turns.
Originally posted by Plux
I say we try the PBEM anyway, but maybe it would be wise if everybody could mention their daily most preferred time of play, so we can set up some sort of playing order.

eg:
propain: 15-16
Erik 18-19
Matrix 20-21
Plux 23-24

Catch my drift? Nothing obligatory, just prefs that will work for most of the days. For me it would be 23-24 or early night hours..Very good idea! I think everyone needs to say when he's available most times.

For me best would be 17:00-18:00. Usually I'm at home all evening and behind my computer as well, but from the 9th till the 20th I'm probably mostly not at home and will have to play my turn at the university. :rolleyes: Don't worry, no one will notice. :D

In the weekend I'm all available, though. :) Almost always.

Another thing: please install an email notification program (or keep Outlook Express minimized). Personally I use ICQ (http://web.icq.com/) for it. :)

You need to give us your email address, so I can send the crack. And the player who's before you will need that email address.

His email is in the first post! I put it there almost 2 hours ago :scan: And he has allready got the crack AFAIK....

It will be 6 of 7 (if Rodney gets his things together) players and 1 or 2 AI's!

I am available weekdays after 18:30 or 19:00 till 23:00. Fridaynight till later! Availablity in the weekends depends on social life. Sunday-evening I am most of the time at home! ;)
Matrix if you're up 17:00, it is better when you go first. In that case you will have to make (set up) the game! :eek:
Redwatch will be the last in line for obvious reasons! The rest in between!

Oops, I just sent him the crack. :o Sorry about that, rodney. (1,5 MB email! :eek: )

Anyway, thanks for giving me this honour. :D I only must disappoint you that we democratically decided not to include AI's. Just read your email about that. :) Yet, sorry.

Originally posted by Matrix
Oops, I just sent him the crack. :o Sorry about that, rodney. (1,5 MB email! :eek: )

Anyway, thanks for giving me this honour. :D I only must disappoint you that we democratically decided not to include AI's. Just read your email about that. :) Yet, sorry.

It's ok with me. G2G now!

The game has commenced!

The sequence of turns is:
1. Matrix
2. ProPain
3. ERIKK
4. Kemal
5. Redwatch
6. Plux
7. rodneysandy (canceled)

Be aware of any incoming email! :satan:

Oh, side note: I've made the world wet and warm, so that we (apart from the jungle) will have as much liveable land. Last time I started a MP game, I started on an island with only tundra and hills. :rolleyes:

Sorry folks,I'll have to bow out of this game,Im still unable to get the patch working.A mate of mine is coming round this evening to sort the whole thing out.With thanks to those of you who have made me feel welcome.I shall follow the thread with interest.
Matrix,don't take any notice of the American spelling of programme,they never could spell.Our spelling may be a trifle archaic but we did invent the language you know.Thanks for the 114F crack.

Ok. I sent a new game to ProPain.

Sent me the crack please h.kleinentink@chello.nl

Het spelen van PBEM:

When you recieve a game: copy it in the saves folder and open PTW and click load game on the main menu
locate the savegame and load it. after you finish your turn you are prompted te save the game and exit
sent de savegame to the next player
this completes the cycle

Nieuwe volgorde:
matrix
kemal
erikk
propain
plux
redwatch

Succes!

The people of ThisIsIT have settled on some mediocre lands near the jungle. It is said that dangerous beasts live in the jungle and it is forbidden to enter it because of all kinds of deceases that people can get entering it! They make you :vomit: and can even kill you... ;)

Scouts are dispatched to explore new lands. Word is that other friendly, yet unsavaged tribes might live in the neighbourhood! :)

Game sent to ProPain!

Yea, about the same for me. :rolleyes:

:p

Originally posted by ProPain
PBEM it is. One turn a day is np for me, I check my email several times day and I'll be able to fit in the odd turn in my schedule. Especially those early turns : pressing enter because your worker is busy and your warrior isn't finished yet :)
Ya, right. We've been waiting for you all evening! I hope you'll submit tonight after all, otherwise we all have to wait another day. :(

We're not all students with nothing more on their hands than sitting at home all day waiting for PBEM to arrive ;)

Just mailed my turn so np.

Was away on a business meeting as I explained in an email to you all that I just sent also.

ProPain

FYI I'll be on anther business meeting tomorrow from 12:00 to 15:00. Yes, this means I can't be reached then, but I'll promise to check my email before and after (sounds like a makeover, I'll post a the pictures).

Good news, no other appointments the rest of the week!!! I'll be working in my office and be available for all PBEM's arriving. Even better: on saturday I will be able to check in on the game also. I expect to spend saturday evening in a bar, so I'll prolly won't check email on sunday untill late afternoon.

Before I call it a night I say GLA & HF.

ProPain

GLA="Good luck all"
HF=?

Anyway, everything's in order then. :)

Good luck to you too!

HF=Have Fun

Even more important than good luck in my oppinion. Luck is something you can't influence, fun is.

ProPain

We got a complete round! :goodjob:
[dance]
Everybody check their email please. I think Redwatch sent his save to the wrong person! :scan:

Nope, I've got it.. apparently Rewatch and I have switched in order.. that's ok.. I'll play now and send to Matrix

Is there a FAQ somewhere regarding PBEM? How does diplomacy/trading take place?

Matrix has it now

Originally posted by Plux
Nope, I've got it.. apparently Rewatch and I have switched in order.. that's ok.. I'll play now and send to Matrix

Matrix has in that case made a different sequence :hmm:

Apparently the sequence is:
matrix
kemal
erikk
propain
redwatch
plux

Right, Matrix? (In that case my mail from 8:20 AM CET is wrong! Sorry abou that!)

Originally posted by Plux
Is there a FAQ somewhere regarding PBEM? How does diplomacy/trading take place?

Matrix has it now

It is in the manual, but if you don't have it ;) I will write it down for you and mail it!

Well this first turn cost me over two hours.... For those who want a head start -------> i pressed 'B'

You pressed 'B' :eek: That's what I did too!

This is going to be a close game...

ProPain

And moved my worker to the left square.... i'm in the winning mood.....

Don't get your hopes up. I not only moved my worker but too....... I also moved my scout!!!

Yes, I'm not kidding. This is serious stuff, not to be underestimated.

ProPain

People!

Quit screwing around! If you wanna be proud of yourselfs write a nice story like Ruler ERIKK of the ThisIsIt-ians!

As for now, your civilizations are nothing compared to allmighty ThisIsIT.... ;)

But I see you guys are having fun yet! :)

Seems like you guys are going pretty strong.... But you're already beginning to fall behind, since in addition to pressing 'B' and moving my worker, I also adjusted my research rate! :D

In what ways do you keep track of your game?
I intend to write a log every time something happens and I take a screenshot of my capital (Strastad) and defence advisor (just for the map) every turn.

Then at the end (or when we all know the map), I can show you the animated gif I'll make of all these maps. :)

By the way, once two persons have met, they may negotiate via email, ICQ or MSN, right? I mean that'll be a lot easier and quicker than via messages in the game... (No I'm not that far... :rolleyes: )

I will post over here. I will write down some funny stories like they do in the Pioneer PBEM, it gives (for the reader) the game something extra. I liked reading the Pioneer events thread. :goodjob:

But I may keep a log for myself too. :eek:

Usually I don't log, because when I played the QSC it took me way too much time. But considering the waits between turns time's not so much of a problem now, so I'll log too. Will be fun to read how we started when we finish the game june 2004....

Since we're probably gonna play for a while, I'd like to know against whom I'm playing actually.

I'm 21, student chemistry, loving the students life in the wonderful city of Groningen :) (though I live in the sleep town Haren). And though I got quite some experience with Civ3, I'm still not that good in it. :o Just look at my prestations of the GOTM. ;)

Ok, i'll say something about myself too.
My real name is Sid Me... ehh I'm in realestate and morgages and insurance. Run my own company(tje).:crazyeye:

I'm playing civilization from the beginning (the first edition where three 1.44 disks):eek: Together with Clint

I've never been playing Call to Power. Damn that was slow...
My tactics are..........right sure keep on dreaming, you all find out....:tank:

I mostley play at regent and score about 6 to 7 thousand points.

I'm an AI-student at Utrecht University and am also playing civ since civ 1. Have touched upon CTP but that wasn't as sweet as the real thing :) I am playing veteran division in tournament (which is slowly dying :( ), which means regent/monarch level.

This afternoon I also played some real MP games. Big Fun! :cool:

I'm a consultant and I also run my own company. Or more acurate I run it together with a friend. Which is great because we have our own LAN that turns out to be great not only for file sharing but it also accomodates MP very well indeed.

I've been playing civ since Civ I was released, played civII a lot, played some CtP for MP reasons. That was money well wasted because after 2 short games I gave it up. User Interface drove me crazy.

I usually play emperor level, which I win 99% of the time. Last tourny OCC being the exception (it's going to be a humiliating defeat...) For some reason deity is still out of my league cause I lose 99% of the times, or rather give up because it's hopeless. I play the tourny in the elite division (emp/monarch) and the gotm

Game sent to Propain

In this turn I did thousands of things ;) And PTW was again very nice to crash while exiting (like yesterday).... :mad:

Well, I am a systems develloper, working for an large IT services company. I have played CivII for, like two years. I discovered it quite late. Before that I played M.A.X. hotseat with a friend, most of the times in 12 hours sessions. :cool:

I am an Emperor/Deity level player, winning most of the Emperor games and losing most of the Deity games!

PS:
ProPain! You are the only one missing in my MSN "contactpersonen" screen! ;)

Got the game 18:19 send the game 18:33 to redwatch.

Erikk : So I'm not the only one winning emp, losing deity. Great relief. On the MSN thing. I don't use it, more of an ICQ kinda guy. But if the rest of you is using it, I'll download it tomorow. Kinda weird because I just erased the MSN copy my little sister installed a week ago (no kidding)

And I'm reading law at the University of Utrecht. I've got lots of experience with civ1,2,3 and usually play my civ games at emperor, sometimes deity (no fun IMO, but I need the practice for the GotM ;)). You can look at the results of the Gotm pages to see if you think I'm any good at the game. :)

PS: Propain, same goes for me, I also miss you in MSN! :cry: ;)

Got the point, I'll install the thing first thing tomorow

Hey, guys! I've made a website about our game!

http://www.straland.com/DDPP/

ERIKK and I already have something in our history. (Very short of course. :rolleyes: ) Do you have something to add? :)
Originally posted by ProPain
On the MSN thing. I don't use it, more of an ICQ kinda guy.
I like you. :) Shall we conclude an alliance? Now?

That's great Matrix! Fantastic site.

But there is one little thing that nags me....

Sultan Kemal... SULTAN Kemal!? Noooooo... :eek: ;) My loyal vassals now me (at least for now) as Shah Kemal of Persia.

You can add to Kemal's history that he can ponder on the problems of his still small empire watching a great lake/ocean, (Persia doesn't know how to explore the seas yet, nor can it miss the manpower to send a team of explorers round the shores). The Shah prefers the fresh breeze to the arid climate of some lands surrounding his capital. :)

Great idea, I might even be tempted to hold a weekly log of my game, something I normally dread to do.

Sorry, changed it to "Shah". :o Also your history is altered. ;)

Matrix, great site, I'll write a few lines on my start and email em.
On the alliance : You're on, let's ally!

I was able to play around midnight. :) Perhaps we play two turns tomorrow.

I'm not pushing anyone, just hoping. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Matrix
I was able to play around midnight. :) Perhaps we play two turns tomorrow.

I'm not pushing anyone, just hoping. :rolleyes:

If Kemal had posted yesterdayevening I could play right now, before leaving to work. You guys could wrap up the turn in daytime and start a new one then, with me joining again early in the evening, we might be able to finish the second turn. Just sounds like a good schema for minimal 2 turns a day!

Any comments?

Spunds fine to me. I can play a turn during daytime and one in the evening. Off course such an intensive schedule requires me to reevaluate my daily routine. ;)

Hiawatha says UCH! and nods expressing his aproval.

It is just that if the rest wants to have something to play in daytime (seems you all can (students and entrepeneurs :eek: )), if can only post in the (early) morning. In that case Kemal should be the last to play in the evening.

Not exactly, Kemal is at the edge. He can also play in the morning.

I think I can usually play after Plux anyway. :) Except when I sleep at my girlfriend's, cos she doesn't have internet (nor a computer fast enough for Civ3). And that's what I will do most of the time from 9 till 20 dec. :undecide: I'm really hooked up to play between 17:00 and 18:00 then.

I always won't be able to play at day time. I leave normaly around 8 in the morning, mostley between 17:30 18:30 at home then from 21:30 back home again. If you guys want to schedule two turns a day, count my out, sorry. Just let me know what you guys want, no hard feelings.

Maybe some people get the wrong idea here. One turn/day is fine, and if we can't make that, than we'll have to settle for less, but that too is ok, I think.

We just got a little over-excited that we may had been able to play two full turns today, but I guess that's a little too stretched. Let's just see and enjoy how the game progresses and take it from there..

Sayonara..

I'll normally be able to play late in the evening from next friday on.

I had a tentamen at 9:00 hours today, that's why I wasn't available to play yesterday evening. I've got another one on friday so thursday evening I'll be able to play 'till 21:00 at best. :(

Just to stop anyone from getting wrong impressions: my starting location isn't a hopeless all-desert place, I do have access (well, in 10 turns that is) to one bonus resource and a little grassland. It's just not the all-cow dreamland I hoped it would be ;).

Originally posted by Redwatch
I always won't be able to play at day time. I leave normaly around 8 in the morning, mostley between 17:30 18:30 at home then from 21:30 back home again. If you guys want to schedule two turns a day, count my out, sorry. Just let me know what you guys want, no hard feelings.
That's ok. I was just a bit hoping for more. ;)

Well, as for now it looks like none of us had a good starting location! My starting place/site is OK but the vicinity isn't (bordering the jungle): got mountains and jungle to the south, jungle to the west, northwest and southeast. To the north, northeast there is water (???, cannot see too well), remaining the east which is yet unknown. My hopes are on better lands to the east otherwise I am f*cked allthough it is a little bit too early to say that. ;) I will post a screenshot in a while (need to learn expert-editing first). :)

I didn't start bad. I got wine and a river just beside Strastad. :D And plenty of grassland!

But looking at your experiences I think I need a good lead. :rolleyes:

By the way, two turns in one day is still possible, but only if Kemal, ERIKK and ProPain are still available between 22:00 and 23:00. :rolleyes: You don't always have to take that into consideration. ;) But it is doable.

Well matrix, guess we are the only two with a good location... we should become allies... and wipe them of the face of the earth...
Gonna be a quick game

I don't mind if we play one, two or ocassionaly no turn at all in one day. For me it's just fun to play the dutch PBEM. So I say no one should quit the game for the amount of turns he can play.

On the start, my start wasn't to shabby :), I like to leave it at that for now. On the other hand it's hard to keep things a secret anyway, f11 and the score will tell you a lot anyway.

I'll open at 19:00 and send asap

ProPain

Sorry Redwatch. I already got an appointment with ProPain. :p
Originally posted by ProPain
I don't mind if we play one, two or ocassionaly no turn at all in one day. For me it's just fun to play the dutch PBEM. So I say no one should quit the game for the amount of turns he can play.
I agree 100%. :)

Also, don't quit because you're performing badly. I mean, in that case your turn won't take long to play anyway. And it would be very bad for the game. On request, we'll kill you swift and clean. ;)

By the way, I never mind playing the underdog. http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/frightened.gif

Just wondering.... How do you acquire a diplomatic victory in PBEM? Do you build the UN, say "vote please" and then demand that other players take their turn without talking to eachother?

Or, since other players get to do a turn untill voting is over, what if you're destroyed before the turn is over, but win the vote? :confused:

Should we come that far, and looking at previous posts I think we will, it looks like you've already earned Matrix's vote, Propain....

IF Matrix is still in the game by then...:scan: ;)

Kemal, I have also no idea. And of course I'll always vote myself or abstain, and I suppose you'll do that as well (why would you do anything else?), so I think a diplomatic victory is impossible anyway.

You might want to do something else if the other person that goes up for voting is currently proceeding through your lands in a razing frenzy , I guess...

:lol: True. :)

Propain, try it a little earlier, i'm at the firedepartment at 1900.
Otherwise, i'll pass it through at 22:00. (i'll be needing sometime to manage all those city's.... pffff

It's 20:00 and I still don't have my game....

I already emailed ERIKK about it, but it won't be earlier Redwatch ( but then, you prolly noticed that yourself by now)

ProPain

Unfortunally I had een meeting 1500-1700. Of course you what happened :cry: So I guess Redwatch will be playing late this evening!

My scout took a peep in the jungle but came back with radiation burns all over his face. ;) He is in hospital now, medics are trying to find out were this strange sickness came from :eek: Meanwhile, they named this unknown sickness "Radiation Sickness"....

As I promised an view of the great city of This Is It:

You call that "mediocre"? :eek: It's about as good as mine!

Originally posted by Matrix
You call that "mediocre"? :eek: It's about as good as mine!

Well, I said the the starting location wasn't that bad but this game is all about expansion.... :hmm:

True. Of course I don't know the rest. ;)

Also true! But a "good" starting location means game or cows to profit from (and a river) IMHO. :)

cows........hmmmmm..... i've seen them somewhere.....

hoor ik iets loeien.........:D :cool:

Bij the weg: voorzie nu al dat mijn 4e beurt beperkt is tot het drukken op de spatiebalk.... kan ik dat niet uitbesteden? Zit beperkt in mijn tijd ivm snikkelklaas ehh. sinterklaas

:lol: Was someone bragging here? :rolleyes:

No bragging, I'm volunteer firefighter and saw some cows with a small fire on a farm ;)

Originally posted by Redwatch
Bij the weg: voorzie nu al dat mijn 4e beurt beperkt is tot het drukken op de spatiebalk.... kan ik dat niet uitbesteden? Zit beperkt in mijn tijd ivm snikkelklaas ehh. sinterklaas
'fraid not. :undecide: Or you have to ask someone who doesn't play in this game.

ik maak wel een uurtje of twee vrij...eerst de vingers goed oefenen. tis nogal een opgave die spatie balk....

:rolleyes:
Terrible day yesterday, with Plux leaving just as Redwatch was starting up his game! This just stalled our progress about 26 hours (or we are lucky and Plux plays at 17:00 today, some 19 hours)...

Better luck next time! :lol:

(PS: We can see now that our world is just as unfair as the real world!)

Well, it's Pakjesavond anyway, so I suppose some of us won't be available anyway.

But it's indeed a pity.

Great stuff, dit English-Nederlands talk through elkaar :D

Waiting for tonight..

Originally posted by Matrix
Well, it's Pakjesavond anyway, so I suppose some of us won't be available anyway.

But it's indeed a pity.

What I get from our email conversations is that I am the only one missing till 22:00 in case if Plux makes it at 17:00. Otherwise the evening is gone anyway.

I just did an interesting discovery!

When you load the game, and you're asked to give the password, press enter. Then you'll get the window to set up your password! Press enter again (which means cancel) and you can play the turn as if nothing happened. :eek: I Noticed this when loading our PBEM, so I just checked with a home made PBEM game, so I didn't see anything of you. ;)

I don't know when you're home, Redwatch, but perhaps you can send me the savegame and I'll aks my brother to press enter for Plux. ;) I'll let him fill in a new password, so that Plux can change it the same way back again.

Would you agree with this? And does Redwatch have the savegame available anywhere soon?

He won't need to. It looks like I can get home in an hour and press Enter myself..

Fine. ;)

By the way, I hope no one will use this to locate anyone's location. I haven't have much experience with honour systems :rolleyes:, but then again we're only with the six of us and I suppose we only want a fun game.

i agree, it won't be any fun... (great map bij the weg)

I just passed it on to Matrix..

..who already sent it to Kemal. :)

Welcome to cattlization III PTW, nothing like a few cows round your starting location. Wish I had 3 of em too.....

Better build some defense Redwatch, because it looks you'll be the envy of the world. People will flock to your cities.....

ProPain

Game to ProPain!

van propain naar redwatch en alweer door naar plux... een minuut geleden.

Please use English in your posts, as requested in the forum rules.

Originally posted by Redwatch
van propain naar redwatch en alweer door naar plux... een minuut geleden.

Whoa, early bird! :goodjob:

(I checked before going to the office this morning...., at 06:00..... :rolleyes: )

I also didn't expect to receive it now already. ;)

Kemal's got it now.

Judging from our thread placement we're one the most active PBEM's going. And we're only platying turn 5 by now! :lol:

Better build some defense Redwatch, because it looks you'll be the envy of the world. People will flock to your cities.....

In turn 4, i build a Cathedral (after completing a modern amor), whats the problem. [dance] ??

Just watch your back you might walk into a trap .... :suicide:

Those cows... are bullcows: fight to kill, lean mean fighting machine....:ar15: :flamedevi :shotgun:

But if where posting like this, this thread will become 1000 pages long.......:eek:

It's back to ERIKK again. This might be our very first 2 turns-day since the start. :)

Originally posted by Kemal
It's back to ERIKK again. This might be our very first 2 turns-day since the start. :)

That would be nice! I will have it sent to ProPain around 17:30. Hopefully everybody can/will be online tonight!

On a sidenote:
Redwatch, what do you want for some cows?

Well let me see... hmmm... World Map, atomic theory and 500 gold (per turn that is)....

I'm ready for the game of propain. Except i'm leaving in half an hour, to be back around midnight...

kiddin'

My turn is mailed, I'll be at the cinema from 21:00 to 23:30. I'll check again when I'm back.

ProPain

Where is it now?

I was able to play two games yesterday. ;)

Originally posted by Matrix
Where is it now?

I was able to play two games yesterday. ;)

Turn 6 is with ProPain, I sent it him 7 december 0:15. At that moment he was surfing CFC so I thought he would immediately play it and pass it through....

Next time I will sent him a MSN warning message! ;)

turn 7 has begun and is with Matrix now..

Passed on to Kemal. :)

To ProPain's hotmail! :)

Originally posted by ERIKK


Turn 6 is with ProPain, I sent it him 7 december 0:15. At that moment he was surfing CFC so I thought he would immediately play it and pass it through....

Next time I will sent him a MSN warning message! ;)

MSN wouldn't have helped because I logged on solely to check my email for the game. Didn't get it prolly because of ISP as I said in my mail. I'll install the MSN first thing tomorow, promise!

ProPain

Well, from now on I'll only be available for sure from 17:00 till 18:00 to play my turn for the next two weeks. So if I haven't got my savegame yet at 18:00, we have to skip a day. :undecide:

In the weekend I'm more available though.

Well, for today it's waiting in your m@ilbox

To ProPain! Sorry for being a bit late! :)

NP I was having diner at my fathers and came in 10 mins ago. Jus in time! Game will be on its way in 5 mins. Downloaded MSN and will install it right after the game

ProPain

Have installed the MSN thing and it's working

Why haven't I got the savegame yet? :hmm:

Though I probably have time this evening too (till 21:00 or so).

Again: Where is the savegame now?!? I should've had it this morning normally, but I still don't have it.

As I said I sent it of to Redwatch yesterday evening. Checked my email and it lists as being sent correctly around 22:30.

ProPain

I've sent it yesterday 23:09 to Plux. But this morning i received a email (around 11) that his email wasn't working. I sent it again half an hour ago...

I've sent the 9th turn to you Redwatch. BTW 2nd game's started also!

I'll play this one around 1800...

I have still not recieved the next turn!!!! :o

I sent turn 9, or save Plux 3550 BC.SAV to Matrix yesterday at 18.07. Haven't heard from it since...

Guys, try yo play the saves. I'm suffering from abstination effects :lol:

I mailed it to ERIKK this morning, I hope he has it because my system wasn't functioning perfectly at that time (had to reboot minutes later).

ERIKK, if you haven't got the save yet please post it here and I will mail it again. :)

Maybe you should mail it again, just to be save... otherwise, he'll needs it and you're offline... greetz

The game should be at Kemal.

Turn 9 (Redwatch 3600BC) is currently with Plux. There was some miscommunication between them. Please keep the name PTW gives to the save or rename it in a smart way and be sure to give the email the right title :)

please mail turn soon -STOP- Have been shaking for 2 days -STOP- relatives really starting to worry -STOP-

Originally posted by ProPain
please mail turn soon -STOP- Have been shaking for 2 days -STOP- relatives really starting to worry -STOP-

Me too! The problem has been isolated now. Plux just need to play his turn now and the PBEM will be rolling as before! :)

Originally posted by ProPain
please mail turn soon -STOP- Have been shaking for 2 days -STOP- relatives really starting to worry -STOP-
http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif

I'll be looking forward to play the next turn again. ;) And I'm very glad I chose an expansionistic Civ! That makes the game a lot more fun in the first turns. :)

By the way, the current date is 3550 BC. :p

Originally posted by Kemal
I mailed it to ERIKK this morning, I hope he has it because my system wasn't functioning perfectly at that time (had to reboot minutes later).

ERIKK, if you haven't got the save yet please post it here and I will mail it again. :)

I haven't recieved it (turn 10, 3550BC). Please sent it again :)

I think it was all my fault! :blush: :mad: Reading the thread again I thought Kemal (on 12 dec) was still talking about turn 9..... That was my mistake, I just did not recieved his save of turn 10 that day, because of his emailproblems!

Just to be sure: I did not recieve anything form the other PBEM yet. I have been waiting 2 days now.... :mad: :cry:

That was quickly fixed! ;) ProPain's daily shot is in his mailbox!

got it, playing and sending it right away. I have been in Antwerps for 2 days that's why you didn;t hear from me. Glad problems are solved!

It still doesn't go very fast. :(

Originally posted by Matrix
It still doesn't go very fast. :(

It is the turn of 3500 BC. Shouldn't we screenprint F11 or document it somehow for the website?

Don't know what my quote has to do with your remark, but yes, that's a good idea. :) You could all note the data of F11 and send it to me.

I guess the game is still stuck with RedWatch as Pro Pain already did his thing?

Sorry, but I'm going home now. I'll play the turn tomorrow... :undecide:

My turn was send at 18:37 local time yesterday. My guess is the holidays will be pretty chaotic anyway so a turn a day will be pretty hard.

I have started the 4th Agent Orange PBEM game (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39352).

Aaahhh... Finally another turn. :) As you might see/have seen, I've played three turns all at once. ;) (For three different PBEM's of course. :rolleyes: )
And the borders of Strastad are bigger now! And the city has size two! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/jump.gif And four more turns, then we've got ourselves a new invention.

I've played the turn and have sent it to ERIKK. I also mailed the Persians demographics screen to Matrix, for the statistics on his website.

Early analysis seems to reveal someone is already connected to a luxury. I want a luxury too! :cry: ;)

The grapes have been harvested and processed. :D

I've added the demographics to the DDPP web pages! (Though I only have them of Kemal and myself yet.) The link is in my sig. ;)

Originally posted by Matrix
And the borders of Strastad are bigger now! And the city has size two! http://www.straland.com/images/smilies/jump.gif And four more turns, then we've got ourselves a new invention. Hah, the mighty and fertile Japanese already have a size-2 capital for almost 50 years now! :p

To ProPain's hotmail! :cool:

F11-data will be sent to Matrix.

Originally posted by Plux
Hah, the mighty and fertile Japanese already have a size-2 capital for almost 50 years now! :p
Yeah, well, our border expanded first! :p

:( I can't get in to hotmail. Server too busy for ages now

ProPain, I have sent it to your other mailadress and uploaded it too. It (ERIKK of the this etc..) is in http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/

I received the demographics of Plux, but haven't got the ones of ProPain and Redwatch. Could you please send them after all? :confused:

I'll mail it to you...

Get it moving guys.

Those of us who follow the thread and avidly check out Matrix site to see the latest developments are getting a bit restless. I've seen more action at a SAGA reunion.

Originally posted by col
Get it moving guys.

Those of us who follow the thread and avidly check out Matrix site to see the latest developments are getting a bit restless. I've seen more action at a SAGA reunion.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Good to know people are reading it! I will sent Matrix an update for his website! Next turn I will post a story over here too. :goodjob:

*lurking*

:D

Originally posted by col
Get it moving guys.

Those of us who follow the thread and avidly check out Matrix site to see the latest developments are getting a bit restless. I've seen more action at a SAGA reunion.
Cool! :D But indeed, it has went a little slow lately. :undecide:

And the coming days it won't go very fast either, since a lot of us aren't available to play until next year.

Wow, didn't know we had an audience. I will post it today.

As promised an update of the This is It!!! empire.

Now that it is the year 3400BC Ruler ERIKK has called his advisors to check on the empire. What surprised him was the following: allthough our science advisor says that we are 2nd in science and our scientific research is progressing very well due to generous funding, were are still moderately advanced!!!! Ruler ERIKK was very upset about this because his brave scout divisions have recently brought back a new technique of fighting from a friendly nearby tribe. Our soldiers are now capable of using a bow and arrow! :D
The question is: is our advisor gone crazy or are there other civilizations trading techs allready? Nobody knows of course, as it should be! :)

Game sent to ProPain to his email adresses! Matrix feel free to use some of this for your website if you want to! ;)

To ProPain.

Damn! It is awefull quiet over here.... :(

BTW: my 500th post :lol:

Quiet, but still alive, Erik. ;) Don't you worry.

But I go till tomorrow 12:00 to play another turn. Then I won't be back till december 30th. :undecide: But I'm sure that more of you will have enough other things to do too. ;)

Bad news! Today my hard drive crashed completely, so I won't be able to play untill a new drive arrives. If all goes well, that will be this friday, so I won't be able to play my turns before the weekend, but hopefully we can continue from then. Luckily it's X-mas so most of you will be busy anyways, but I do feel a little bit amputated without my civ3 :cry:

Happy Holidays to y'all :beer:

Same here my friends, happy holiday's to you all!

I can play my last game saturday at 09:00 then i'll be gone for 6 days.... I'm having a small vacation.....with 4 women!!!

Yes....

This game is still alive, though no one but the players notice it. :rolleyes:

I've made contact with one of you quite fast and had a very interesting development and conversation about it recently. ;)

I'm gonna put my log of the game in my signature. I trust you won't look at it; you'll immediately see the map. But observers should take a look at the most recent event. ;)

Originally posted by Matrix
This game is still alive, though no one but the players notice it. :rolleyes:

I've made contact with one of you quite fast and had a very interesting development and conversation about it recently. ;)

I'm gonna put my log of the game in my signature. I trust you won't look at it; you'll immediately see the map. But observers should take a look at the most recent event. ;)

Stop teasing me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

Can't find my Paintshop cd anywhere.. So it takes a while longer to send the pics. BUt I'm on it.

ProPain

Since I believe all players have returned from holidays now, how about getting this game going again? We're far away from the 1 turn/day schedule we're trying to achieve, and I'm eagerly awaiting next turns.

Happy new year to all! :)

Where is the save?

Yesterday Matrix asked me if I had 3300 BC. I haven't so I thought that it ment you had the save, Kemal....

That's strange, I do not have it and I can't recall ever receiving it from Matrix. Last save I got was for the third Agent Orange game, on the 30st of December. Last one for this game was on the 22nd of December!

Matrix, could you please send me the save game again so we can get this game rolling again?

This is what I have in my directory:

in from Kemal: PBEM013350BC.SAV --- 23-12-2002
out to ProPain: ERIKK of the This, 3350 BC.SAV --- 23-12-2002

Oops! I forgot to send the savegame to Kemal after playing my turn. :o I sent it now after all...

:hmm: some of us jumped in score! All other things were secret this turn ;)

Cool! I'm second. :D

And the mighty Iroquois rise to nr 1 position with a staggering 15 points !!!!!! This is a can't lose situation guys, you'd better al quit now. :lol:

Got the 3300 BC save I'll play it now and send it on.

And how's it going here (my favorite PBEM ;))?
I'm in some heavy negotiations via email. :D Furthermore I'm glad I chose the Vikings, because they are expansionistic. At least there's something to do here! :yeah:

Your Favorite PBEM (and mine for that matter) is regaining it;s former glory. We are back at a turn a day. Yeehaaa!

Originally posted by Matrix
And how's it going here (my favorite PBEM ;))?
I'm in some heavy negotiations via email. :D Furthermore I'm glad I chose the Vikings, because they are expansionistic. At least there's something to do here! :yeah:

I met some new friends, traded stuff. I am doing Col's "tarzan act" at the moment!

To the high ranking Chief ProPain! :)

Chief ProPain decided to do a small write up of events now for you other players and our dedicated monitors like col.

4000 BC - The beginning
The mighty Iroquois found the city of Salamanca on the bank of the ProPain river. It's a beautifull location with grass, plains and cattle. The Iroquois chief can't ignore these good omens and sacrifices to the gods by consuming some (or actually a lot) bfirewater. Uch!

3950 BC and on - Our first steps
Our first priority is to know where we are. Chief ProPain dispatched his scout and orders a youngster to be trained as a scout as well. Our worker is immediately ordered to improve some of our land. The Chief himself spends this first few years getting rid of his hangover.

After a while we have a few youngster educated in the scouting profession. At first they are still unexperienced and are misled by the sight of old abandoned villages. Later they become experienced and competent. They find quite a few villages who are willing to teach us and even one that desperately wants to join us. Chief ProPain earns the honorary title 'the great hut popper' :)

In addition to all these discoveries, our scouts also gather information about strangers walking our ancestorial lands. It appears we are not alone. After long deliberation Chief ProPain and his counsil of medicine men decide to make contact with those strange people.

And so we conclude the first part of the history of the mighty Iroquois.

When circumstances permit, the Iroquois story will continue.

Did you smoke the "vredespijp" with those strangers? ;)

Don't quite remember if we smoked the 'vredespijp' (for you english readers: vrede = peace and pijp = pipe (duh)) or the waterpipe.

I always mix those two up anyway....

"vredespijp" = "pipe of peace". ;)
Originally posted by ProPain
Chief ProPain earns the honorary title 'the great hut popper' :)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

ProPain is Indian for "He who pops huts?" ;)

But it's indeed nice to have an extra city so far in the beginning. :rolleyes:

Yes, maybe you smoked both. ;)

Or maybe the watervredespijp! :)

By the way, I received the savegame from Plux at 05:35 this night! :eek:

Originally posted by Kemal
Yes, maybe you smoked both. ;)

Or maybe the watervredespijp! :)

:hmm: That must be the reason of his high ranking :lol:

Originally posted by Matrix
By the way, I received the savegame from Plux at 05:35 this night! :eek: Yes, I just finished GOTM XV :rolleyes:

With the 3000 BC mark approaching fast, please remember to take a screenshot of the demographics for Matrix"s page.

Shall we also accumulate other data for the page ( F8, F3- screens maybe?) or just leave it at the F11 screen?

What's F8 again? :confused:

Furthermore, no one will see any data given by my military advisor (F3)! :satan:

I guess you're right about the military advisor, but what I actually thought would be nice is to grab the shots of F8 en F3 and have each player store them on their on PC untill the game ends, and then make them available so we can see when each player was stronger/weaker compared to others, thus better evaluating the game once it has finished (in a year and a half or so... :yeah: ) to see when the winner could have been stopped by the others.

btw, F8 is the score/power/culture histograph :)

(Clicked "reset" instead of "post". :()

F8 shows histograph, which shows our score, power and culture of the whole timeline, so that won't be necessary. F3 doesn't show that relevant info either. Demographics really reveals most important info, and we note that every 10 turns already. ;)

The best place to take screenshots IMO is simply in the game itself (the big whole screen filling map :rolleyes: ), at the right spots at the right time that is. And what's also interesting for comparison at the end is of course the log. :mischief:

All optional of course. ;)

The reason I thought the military advisor screen might be interesting is that it shows the actual amount of armies you have at a given time. So, if all players keep that noted it will be much easier to see when you made the (fatal) error to strike at your opponent, or not to strike and give the enemy time to build his forces to equal yours.

I know that the advisor tells you himself what your military strength is compared to another but I really don't have that much fate in the good man, since he has some difficulty assessing the (real) strategic value of a unit at a given time.

And yes, player logs will be very interesting to look at in the end, I even keep one for this game to look back at when the end nears (whenever that may be ;))

By the way, here's at what date I received the savegames, to see how fast we are going...

3950 BC: 03-12-2002
3900 BC: 04-12-2002
3850 BC: 05-12-2002
3800 BC: 06-12-2002
3750 BC: 06-12-2002
3700 BC: 08-12-2002
3650 BC: 09-12-2002
3600 BC: 10-12-2002
3550 BC: 14-12-2002
3500 BC: 16-12-2002
3450 BC: 19-12-2002
3400 BC: 21-12-2002
3350 BC: 22-12-2002
3300 BC: 29-12-2002
3250 BC: 05-01-2003
3200 BC: 06-01-2003
3150 BC: 09-01-2003
3100 BC: 10-01-2003
3050 BC: 11-01-2003
3000 BC: 13-01-2003?

Where is it?!?!!

I have to go at 17:00! If I don't have the savegame before that it's gonna have to wait another day. :(

Haven't recieved 3000 yet, sent 3050 sunday around 15:00 to ProPain.

It seems Matrix also hasn't recieved 3000 BC yet, as the date next to it shows a question mark, and since he's first in line someone above ERIKK still hasn't passed on the 3050 BC save.

If you're one of the players above ERIKK, please check if you have recieved\sent the 3050 BC save already because we're lagging on the 1 turn/day schedule. :(

I have just send it on. Havebeen away for the weekend and a lot of work piled up that had to betaken care of today.

Received it around 17:36, sent it to Plux around 18:15....

Thats right... it took me allmost an hour to think wether i would hit the spacebar or....

Well: I DID!!!!!!!!!!

My shrink said it was a great thing to do and estimates that our sessions will be over in 2013.... YES!

Well Redwatch, we've had a holiday in between. :rolleyes:

But now we seriously must try to keep it at one turn a day. It's ok for ProPain to take it easy in a weekend, but hopefully not every weekend! Also, it's just one turn. Can't take that long. :rolleyes:

No offense but I mean to take it easy every weekend. :cool: Usually that doesn't interfere with playing a turn though. This weekend I haven't seen my own home at all, that's why i didn't/couldn't play.

The mighty Iroqouis are enjoying this game so much they came up with an idea. If possible we could try to find an evening we are all available and play a few turns in a row.

Like to hear your opinions on this.

Originally posted by ProPain
The mighty Iroqouis are enjoying this game so much they came up with an idea. If possible we could try to find an evening we are all available and play a few turns in a row.

Like to hear your opinions on this. I like it, but let's try to schedule this via mail, ok?

BTW: If all your internet connections allow it (low ping), we could also try to play a few turns MP-style, as a turn based online game. But power PBEM-session would also be very ok.

My plans are uncertain for this weekend. This time I might be unavailable. :undecide:

Will we get to see the demographics of 3000 BC soon?

I've just uploaded it, but I don't have the demo's of ProPain and Redwatch yet.

Hmmm, Matrix you have a large population... Probably building a granary.., coz I do not dare to believe you had two free cities in the first 10 turns or so.

Anyway, if so, it seems a good idea with that free second city doing the normal early game stuff IMO..... This way you will rapidly grow and become the strongest civ. You are now officially on my "kill list"! ;) :satan:

The Americans report friendly strangers wandering through our territory. They are smiling to us and we are wisely smiling back ;) Our scouts report that is no end in the jungles in this world... This planet should be called "Jungle World".

We popped a hut that gave us a new tech. Nothing to mention anymore that is not secret...

Back to the jungle!
ERIKK

My demo was just before I finished a settler. ;)

Anyway, I'm glad this PBEM is back at one game a day. :yeah:

Actually Erikk, you can keep track of capital city size in the f11 screen yourself. It's really informative and tells you when a settler has been built. You only miss one city out of 6.

The Iroquois are happily continuing their ordinary business of working the land, scouting the land and settling the land. It's quite boring when I come to think of it.

To spice things up a bit for me I'm gonna post a screenshot of my starting location today. Finally found my Paint Shop CD again :bday: So I'll be taking some more shots in the near future and posting them.

Oops, I received the savegame just when I went downstairs for dinner. :rolleyes: But it's sent now.

Last turn with a 50 years interval. ;)

Originally posted by Matrix
Oops, I received the savegame just when I went downstairs for dinner. :rolleyes: But it's sent now.

Last turn with a 50 years interval. ;)

Matrix, are you sure everything went ok when you mailed me the save?

It's been more than 4 hours since you've sent it and I still haven't recieved the save. Could you please try again, so we can continue on the 1 turn a day schedule?

Darn! I sent it now. :wallbash: (Actually 21:53)

Sorry... :undecide:

Ok, I have it and played it now. :)

On to ERIKK.

Iroquois starting location as promised

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/propain_ddpp1__start__loc_gif.gif

How about this!

It took me 6 edits or so to get the name right (stupid spaces), which means it took about 25 times as long to post the screenie as to play the turn :lol:

Next pic will be a lot smaller too but somehow PSP showed it much smaller.

Where? :p

(broken link to image)

He guys, did my picture shock you all that much you gave up immediately??? I haven't seen a turn in 2 days?

I love those cows btw...