War is not culture!

As our cities grow, our people are crying out for some relief from the near-constant warfare they have been experiencing. The time has come to press for more culture to be instilled in our cities. Our people are smart: we are building ibraries nearly everywhere. But libraries aren't enough to make the people happy. Most of our citizens do not even have a Temple in which to worship!

This term we will try to start the development of culture in all our cities, to ease the paths of our citizens as they wend their way through this brutish world.

Previous terms:
Term 3 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35400)
Term 2 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33207)
Term 1 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31109)

I am also in need of a deputy minister. Any interested applicants please PM me or reply in this thread.

:D

I have sent a PM to you Padma about my interest in becoming the Culture Deputy :).

And I replied via PM, but your PM box is full. ;)

I will continue to accept applicants for about 47 more hours. Then I will choose from among those applicants. :)

I am also interested in the Deputy Culture Minister's Position.

Wonderful!

I now have three to choose from. :D

I would also like to be the deputy! :D Wait, I'm not sure if I can because I'm already a leader...

As governor, I do agree that we need more culture! Other nations look upon us as barbarians as some cities have neither book nor hymn! I have put forth a motion to rush several cultural buildings in my province of Taliesin.

Originally posted by Chieftess
rush several cultural buildings

That's good. We are so poor culturly that our cities are very likely to be candidate to culture switch on the wrong side. Other governors sould do like you.

The culture department has my assurences that Padmativa will build a temple as soon as possible, perhaps after a settler. The city already contians a library, and may be a hot place to get American and English cities to flip.

~Octavian X
Governor, South Doughnut Province

The culture department has my assurences that The Northern Provance will build Culture Improvements in cities that are at riask of a Culture flip.

It warms my heart to see Governors concerned about Culture. :D

After so many centuries of War! War! War!, it is good that people are remembering that Culture plays a very important part in a Civilizations growth and power. :)

Culture will be pleased to learn that a library is in queue for all Rhineland cities that do not already have one.

The Cartographic Office would like to remind you that your deputy, whoever that turns out to be, will be eligible for City Naming Rights and should register in the Cartographic Office (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34519).

Well, after much thought, I have decided on a Deputy. The choice was very difficult, given that all the applicants were well-qualified. But in the end, I decided to let naervod have his shot at it. :D

I will post a confirmation poll shortly.

I am honored that you have chosen me to serve as Culture Deputy. I will serve well. I hope we can work together to improve the culture of our nation.

Good luck Naervod! I think you are very qualified for this position, and you will do a great job. :)

Great, just heard about the deputy position and it's filled... congrats, naervod. :(

It's official! Naervod was confirmed as Culture Deputy by this vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38563).

Thank you all who voted for me and thank you Padma for letting me have this position. Is there anything you need me to do Padma?

Padma asked me to see which cities were in danger of CF-ing. I also took the liberty of showing which cities had no culture rating. I rated the danger of flipping on this scale:
White: No danger
Green: Small danger
Yellow: Danger
Red: Imminent Danger

Red
Nocsfiedera

Yellow
Androbius, Morgana

Green
Grandmastoria
Serenity

White
Eklektochitlan
Plexenburg
Dacula
Kells
Hakodate
Ise
New PDX
Cuernavca
Pensacola
Civanatoria

*Note: These are only cities that have no culture in them.

Also, mayors and governors: I cannot stress the importance of culture in this game. In order to suceed, we must have culture in our cities. To all governors of provinces with endangered cities: Please make culture in the endangered cities top priority, as if we don't get culture in them now, they risk being lost and we might never be able to build anything in them.

Naervod
Culture Deputy

That's not an accurate picture in my opinion, as some cities, like Morgana, are well within national borders, and may be close to the capital. There is a culture flipping algorithm in place. Generally, cities from other nations have the greatest risk of flipping if they had greater culture, and are closer to their capital.

Morgana was a hard one for me to decide, but I put it that way due to the fact that Miami has large cultural borders that border with Morgana, which has no culture. I am considering changing it to Green, but am not sure yet.

Plexus's Culture Flipping Assesment-460AD
Yea... I was bored.

Key:
Red- High Risk
Orange- Moderate-High Risk
Yellow- Moderate-Low Risk
Green- Low Risk
Blue- No Risk

Red
Kyoto

Orange
Nocsfiedera, Androbius

Yellow
Morgana

Green
Grandmastoria
Serenity

Blue
Eklektochitlan
Plexenburg
Dacula
Kells
Hakodate
Ise
New PDX
Cuernavca
Pensacola
Civanatoria

Looking for a chat rep, Padma?

Suggested build queue amendments- 460AD: (Military permitting)

1. Change Kyoto build to a library.
2. If possible, rush Kyoto library.

Kyoto is high risk for culture flipping, it's a long way away from home...

I think culture buildings should be built in Red and Yellow according to my key or Red and Orange according to Plexuses key. As for the chat rep thing: I will be able to make most of the rest of the TC's so I don't think we need a chat rep, but it is up to Padma.

Excellent work, both naervod and Plexus! :goodjob:

I agree with the assessment, and that we must get Culture into our Red and Yellow/Orange cities ASAP. Indeed, I am all for rushing a Library in Kyoto. It was the heart of the Japanese Empire for so long that it will be some time before we "out-culture" them there!

As to the chat-rep: naervod says he can make most of the remaining chats. My attendance is spotty, between work and family things. Hmm, it never hurts to have a third department member, just to back the other two up. Let me sleep on it. :D

OK, but get back to me on that :D

I have posted a three part poll regarding utilisation of our Great Leader: What should we use Richthoffen for? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39230), if the FP, where? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39232) and if the Palace, where? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39233) Please vote in all these polls ASAP if you wish to make your voice heard before tonight's turn chat! :)

I would like Culture to note the graphic I made of current cultural posistions of each nation. You'll notice that Babylon is the largest, and that might be of some concern in terms of culture victory (or in this case, our defeat). Perhaps we can urge the Military Department to discuss possible war plans. Greece is another culture power, and should be watched.


http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Fanatika_culture_510AD.jpg


BTW, we have 2080 culture, and 22 culture "points". To figure out the approximate culture (yes, I know about Apollo, but I see that as more of a cheat now...), just plug in this simple formula:


22/2080 = #/X

Where, # is the culture number of the civ you want to estimate the total culture of. I.e., for Babylon, it's 111.

22/2080 = 111/X

Cross multiply:

22X = 230880
X = 10,494.54545454 (or 10,494.6)

An excellent analysis, Chieftess!

I am feeling the need to have a definite "3rd in Command" for this office, as I am finding myself increasingly busy with RL. So I am going to propose Plexus for Chat Rep.

You know, you can have more than one chat rep... :D

You could always have 3! :D

Plexus's Culture Flipping Assesment-510AD

Key:
Red- High Risk
Orange- Moderate-High Risk
Yellow- Moderate-Low Risk
Green- Low Risk
Blue- No Risk
NFN- Not for long (status likely will change in the next turn chat)

Red
none :goodjob:

Orange
Nocsfiedera
Dapperdan
Tokyo

Yellow
Morgana(NFN)

Green
Grandmastoria (NFN)
Serenity (NFN)
Trader's Inn (NFN)
Leningrado

Blue
All other cities

What about Gunningheim?

Padma, with the addition of your Deputy and Chat Rep, the Culture Dept. has blossomed. Excellent work, especially with the new CFW (Culture Flip Warning) System. A Gold Star for the Domestic Department. :goodjob:

Thanks, Cyc! :D

All the kudos really go to naervod and Plexus, and also of course to those others without an official position who toss in things to help out (e.g. Chieftess). These folks get my heartfelt praise for doing the things I haven't had time to do as the game gets more complex, and my RL gets more hectic.

Yay! Our acronyms are starting again! :D

CFW

Although, I would think Tokyo should be slightly higher, since we just captured it.

Good point, I was factoring in that we might capture Nara next turn and all Japanese cities are pretty far away from Tokyo. But still, I agree that it should be changed.

Tokyo has been set to an Orange rating due to further assesment.

@Gunning- You actually the city named after you to be warned? lol

Seriously though, Gunningheim has the neccessary culture to keep it from flipping, it may even cause Denver or Satsuma to flip to us. :D

An explanation why 'NFN' is 'NFN'- Well, I didn't want to confuse it with the National Footbal League... (NFL). So, I uh... used "N". :)

But then I guess you could confuse it with New Falcon's Nest... I'll work on it. :)

I did at first...

Also, I have set a library to be built after the defenses are built up in Leningrado. That city will be off your list in no time.

P.S. Padma, keep an eye on your box concerning land trades around that city. :D

I fear that my list will become dreaded by governors... :)

I beleve I started using the the CFW system. Although mines is losely based on the Homeland Security System in the US :).

Plexus's Culture Flipping Assesment-600AD

Key:
Red- High Risk
Orange- Moderate-High Risk
Yellow- Moderate-Low Risk
Green- Low Risk
Blue- No Risk
NFM- Not For Much longer (status likely will change in the next turn chat)

Red
-

Orange
Leningrado

Yellow
-

Green
Hakodate

Blue
All other cities

Wow, why did all the cities just drop off of the map? :) (nearly all of them).

I'm still concerned about the border cities, of course.

Most of the borders have enough culture in them to be at the blue rating for now.

Due to the building of improvements, killing off the Aztecs and taking some key Japanese cities, most cities have droped off my list.

I'd like to give an "official" welcome to Plexus, as or Turn Chat Rep. The poll finally reached quorum last night. :D

:) Thanks, Padma.

Congrats Plexus! :D

Plexus's Culture Flipping Assesment-670AD

Key:
Red- High Risk
Orange- Moderate-High Risk
Yellow- Moderate-Low Risk
Green- Low Risk
Blue- No Risk
NFM- Not For Much longer (status likely will change in the next turn chat)

Red
Kagoshima

Orange
-

Yellow
-

Green
Hakodate
Leningrado

Blue
All other cities

Since Kagoshima has not been placed in a province yet, who will determine the build queue?

Originally posted by naervod
Since Kagoshima has not been placed in a province yet, who will determine the build queue?

I beleve the Domestic Dept. would take care of Kago untill it has a provance to call home

Yup, that is domestic's job.

Real life has been interfering greatly with my demogame play lately, to the point that I am not even up-to-date on what is happening within our lands! Were it not for the efforts of my Deputy and my Chat Rep, this office would be in a shambles. I even considered resigning, but with the elections upon us, that seems rather pointless.

I find I must apply myself to those aspects of the game that I can deal with in five-minute chunks while at work (with no Civ at hand, and only occasional maps/images allowed throught the #&*@! firewall) and the occasional chance I get to play/work at home.

Therefore, I will be declining any nominations I receive for this next term. I will still be around, joining in discussions, voting on polls, playing in the RPG. But I simply do not have the time to spare that any of our elected/appointed offices requires to be done well.

I think Kagoshima just barely falls into the borders of one of our provinces.

@Padma-I am sad to see you go. You have been an excellent culture leader and I enjoyed working for you. I am glad you will still be around the RPG and the forums and hopefully you can come back to culture the term after this.

@Chieftess- Yes, Kagoshima is within a province now, but it wasn't at the time we were discussing the issue.

Thanks for the kind words, naervod. :)

Actually, I will be on the forums about as much as I am now, but, as I said, I don't think that's enough to do justice to any position (IMO).

@Padma- I'm sorry to see you go. You have been a great culture minister and I hope you come back to this office some day. Will you still be involved in the RPG?

I'll most definitely stay involved, Sir Plexus. ;)

As I said above, I just don't have the time available that I think needs to be devoted to an elected position. I'll still be here, probably as much as I have been the last couple weeks. It's just, something had to give, and I was already losing my focus on the Culture Ministry, anyway.

I plan to remain the Prince of Lancre, and help our confederation grow, both in land and in strength! ;)

Term 5 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40498)