City States of the World

This mod adds a variety of city-states from less represented areas, like Africa and Americas.

Current version: 2
Download: Mod-hub

List of new CSs

Africa

Antananarivo (Maritime)
Accra (Cultured, should be Maritime? I'd rather use a new culture CS)
Khartoum (Militaristic)
Zanzibar (Maritime)
Ulundi (Militaristic)
Addis Abeba (Cultured)
Carthage (Maritime)

Americas

Cuzco (Militaristic)
Tikal (Militaristic)
Calakmul (Militaristic)
Quebec (Cultured)
Buenos Aires (Maritime)
Mexico (Cultured)
Havanna (Maritime)

Eurasia

Riga (Maritime, a personal favorite)
Samarkand (Cultured)
Davao (Maritime)


Version History

v2 (30/09/10); Fixed missing Actions making the mod not work at all;
v1 (30/09/10); Original release;

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Looks good, Opera.

there could be more European citystates :D

edit: :(

Eh, those are already represented amply. Believe the point of this was to give representation to other societies.

The in-game mod browser is broken for me (never finds any mods), could you please upload a file here ? Thanks ;)

Try the following:
1) Clear your My Games/Civ5/Cache and /MODS folder
2) Remove your config.ini in My Games/Civ5 folder

Tell me if that works.

Try the following:
1) Clear your My Games/Civ5/Cache and /MODS folder
2) Remove your config.ini in My Games/Civ5 folder

Tell me if that works.

No, it doesn't. I still see no mods in the browser.

EDIT: Steam did download something (not sure what, was on 1.0.0.20 before and still am), maybe that fixed it. Maybe me not going with DX9 directly but with the launcher and selecting DX9 there fixed it, in any case this time around I did see mods, finally ;)

Hey Opera, thank you immensely for permitting use of your (awesome) City States in my mod! Due credit will be given ;)
Two quickies:
- Could Antananarivo be associated with any of the major Civs?
- Do they all have Civilopedia entries?

Just looked at them myself for some inspiration (as I have some new city states in my mod and look for others to add), so here are the answers :)

- Could Antananarivo be associated with any of the major Civs?

No, it is the capital of Madagascar

- Do they all have Civilopedia entries?

None do, unfortunately

I'll download this to have Quebec in the game. I love that city (or at least the old, tourist filled areas that I saw. =p)

No, it is the capital of Madagascar

Tamatave might be more appropriate then (like replacing Ulundi for Capetown - imagine the Dutch discovering Capetown... which was founded by them. Similar for the French discovering Quebec...)

Tamatave might be more appropriate then (like replacing Ulundi for Capetown - imagine the Dutch discovering Capetown... which was founded by them. Similar for the French discovering Quebec...)

Antananarivo is ok, it was not founded by any of the civilizations, it already existed before Africa got colonized (and was captured by the French about 270 years after it was founded).

Even if the civilopedia entry is three sentances long, it still makes it look more professional. You just have to type into the XML file, right?

I'm in the process of making pedia entries, planned for v3.

I'm also gonna remove Samarkand to let it be added by zappara's mod since he uploaded his first. I'll be adding some more, like Kiev. Any CS you feel should be in?

Well, since you've asked ;)
ShiroKobbure has offered these suggestions for City States for the Civs I'm missing. This denotes in some ways that some regions of the world (North America, Japan) have almost no City State. And then there's Egypt, Babylon & India, who just deserve some closely related ones :)

His list, just for reference (many are actual full nations, when I'd prefer to keep in the spirit of cities)
Japan:
Ryukyu (Cultured)
Ezo (Militaristic)
I think Korea should maybe belong to China since historically they were a tributary state of China for much of their history. And maybe replace them with Emishi (Militaristic), or Kumaso (Militaristic), or if you want a more modern one, Taiwan (Seafaring).

Egypt:
Punt (Cultured)
Kush (Militaristic)
Israel (Militaristic)

I don't think city-state has to be literal, but I think we can expand it to smaller civs or historical colonies/tributaries.

Others:
Aztecs:
Zapotecs
Mayapan
Toltecs

America:
Pueto Rico
Hawaii
The Philippines

Iroquois:
Choctaw
Cherokee
Lakota

England:
Scotland
Wales
Ireland

India:
Sri Lanka
Nepal

Babylon:
Kazallu
Sumer

Dilmun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilmun)

I had carthage in my game, and they were training settlers, but leaving them in Carthage, so they had 2 or 3 stacked settlers.

A few ones you could include, in case you really need more :) :

Sevastopol
Manila
Wellington
Sydney
Ur
Malta
Aruba
Prague
Minsk


Loving the mod by the way, it's nice not to see the same old city states pop up every time, gets a bit old after a few games :)

I'll be adding:

Lisboa (Maritime)
Prague (Cultured)
Rhodes (Maritime)
Tbilisi (Cultured)
Ur (Militaristic)
Jerusalem (Cultured)
Colombo (Maritime)
Angkor Wat (Cultured)
Sana'a (Maritime)
New Sarai (Militaristic)

About Carthage and settlers, I'll look into it!

What Kiev's type should be?

I wouldn't add Angkor Wat, as it's a wonder. Maybe add Wellington though...

Oh, indeed it is :lol: Forgot.

Wellington then, sounds good. Maritime?

I´d go with Maori (or better yet: Fiji)/Crivijaya (or Majapahit) - the latter on Sumatra, Java respectively.

I'll be adding:

Lisboa (Maritime)
Prague (Cultured)
Rhodes (Maritime)
Tbilisi (Cultured)
Ur (Militaristic)
Jerusalem (Cultured)
Colombo (Maritime)
Angkor Wat (Cultured)
Sana'a (Maritime)
New Sarai (Militaristic)

About Carthage and settlers, I'll look into it!

What Kiev's type should be?

Cultured, I reckon. San´a is the modern capital, but Aden was the ancient port city (San´a isn´t a port).

Yours is the only city-state mod that I can get to work, so how about adding Luxembourg and Lisbon?

Europe--

Gdańsk (Maritime) - Pomeranian port city, known as Danzig when controlled by German powers
Dubrovnik (Maritime) - Croatian port city, rival to Venice in the middle ages (known as Ragusa in the middle ages, but Ragusa as a name is currently in the game representing a city in Sicily)
Bratislava (Militaristic) - Slovak capital, was capital of Hungary
Cardiff (Cultured) - Capital city of Wales

Knossos (Maritime) - Capital of Minoan civ
Pessinus (Cultured) - Capital of Phrygian civ

Africa--

Meroë (Cultured) - Capital of Kush / nubian civ

Middle East--

Jericho (Militaristic) - ancient city
Nicosia (Cultured) - Capital of Cyprus (known as Ledra in ancient times)

Asia--

Jakarta (Maritime) -- capital of Indonesia, part of the fourth c. kingdom of Tarumanagara

@labrynianrebel: Lisbon is already on my to-do list :) Luxembourg has already been added by another CS mod so no, I won't add it myself.

@brianshapiro: those are really cool suggestions! You made my workload heavier now :lol:

Here's one for you, Opera. ;)

Tartessos - Ancient bronze-age city state in the Iberian peninsula, populated by Iberian Celts (distantly related to those of England, which are better known, as well as the Basque peoples who may well be their descendants). Was an active trading power of the time, artifacts have been found from places such as England and Egypt; Relatively far-flung for that time, would be a good Maritime city.

Hey, just been playing a few more games with the extra city states and I've noticed that some of the city states have just been pumping out settlers, which then proceed to sit around in the city's boundaries. In particular it was Accra and Addis Abeba..
Mexico (cultured) also out-produced Dublin (militaristic) in terms of number of troops...for some reason i feel that the militaristic states should be top in terms of unit count. :)

@Valkrionn: will look it up, thanks :)

@isthmus: I think I may have forgot to set a flavor to 0, maybe expansion or something like that.

Oh, indeed it is :lol: Forgot.

Wellington then, sounds good. Maritime?

Yeah, Wellington would be maritime.

It'll also represent Oceania as a region...

unless a few of my mods are secretly adding them
Tikal, Cuzco
Tenochitlan (mexico)
Carthage and ulundi all exist

Well, at least I was the first to have them in my mod :p

Well, at least I was the first to have them in my mod :p
... but theyre in the original game.

Tenochitlan

...is the capital of the Aztec empire ingame

... but theyre in the original game.

Except they aren't. Start a game with no mods loaded, go to the citystates pane in the pedia. They also aren't city names, aside from Tenochtitlan... Which Opera never listed as a city state in her OP.

Indeed. People are thinking I made my mod without looking at what was in? :lol:

Hey, just been playing a few more games with the extra city states and I've noticed that some of the city states have just been pumping out settlers, which then proceed to sit around in the city's boundaries.


Same here!

So, Opera, to quell rumors, care to update the list of what will be in the next version?

Lisboa (Maritime)
Kiev (Cultured)
Prague (Cultured)
Rhodes (Maritime)
Tbilisi (Cultured)
Ur (Militaristic)
Jerusalem (Cultured)
Colombo (Maritime)
Sana'a (Cultured)
New Sarai (Militaristic)
Wellington (Maritime)
Knossos (Maritime)
Meroë (Cultured)
Jericho (Military)
Jakarta (Maritime)
Dubrovnik (Maritime)
Bratislava (Militaristik)
Gdansk (Maritime)
Tartessos (Maritime)

Many (most) of them suggested by brianshapiro.

And pedias for all!

Glad to see Tartessos in there... Want to run into them sometime. :lol:

Didn't know what New Sarai was, but now I know (thanks Google :mischief:) and I have to say that I find it very interesting, defiantly a city I want to run into! :goodjob:

How about Malta? Ragusa? Gibraltar? (IIRC, it's not in now)

Ragusa is already ingame, Malta and Gibraltar could be good ones...

There's two Ragusa from what I gather. The in-game one is in Italy while the one now known as Dubrovnik isn't.

For now I'll stick to the list I gave earlier.

honestly , from an historic point of view, only the croatian one (Ragusa\Dubrovnilk (nice city by the way)) was really a city-state, in rivalry with Venice for two centuries or so

the sicilian was not much more than a small town

Well, to be honest I thought Ragusa in game was Dubrovnik. Never heard of the sicilian one.

Same here, I was shocked when I read the pedia article only to find it was talking about the sicily one

It has been mentioned a few times already, and you're probably fixing the bug for the next version, but I'm meeting some city states that decides to pump out Settlers. :D

Btw, is it a bug that city states sometimes don't give gold, when you meet them? I just met Capetown and Samarkand, and they didnt give me the 15 gold they usually give.

Were you attacking them a lot? I mean, any CS. At some point new CSs won't give you any more money if you're known as a cs destroyer :)

Oh, that's a good point. I've attacked 2 CS', and got the warning that some of the CS' are stating to band together etc.
Darn those City States. :@

How are the next version coming along btw? I'm looking forward to it.
Also... are city states really as varied as this thread suggests? Like... do they have deeper personalities and priorities than just being Cultured/Maritime/Militaristic and Neutral/Friendly/etc?

Yes, they do have flavors. I'm not sure how far Firaxis went with them though. Maybe not much. Their personality (which is randomly chosen) affects what quests they ask for, not their flavors... So it seems their personality and type are much more important.

(but it's probably due to flavors that some are producing settlers)

And I'm not working on it right now. Kind of busy with college and using my free time for something else. But I'll eventually make it :)

Aw that's a shame. :)

I'm probably gonna deactivate your mod, until it's updated. I'd rather have all my citystates producing sensible things. :P
But as soon as you got a new version going, I'll be all over it.

add Jogjakarta (Cultural) please. It's a city state within a country :)

Jakarta (Maritime) -- capital of Indonesia, part of the fourth c. kingdom of Tarumanagara

It's never been a city-state. Always part of an empire. First the various hindu or buddha or Islam kingdoms, and then dutch, and finally Indonesia.

Rio has never been a city state either.

Opera, do you foresee any reason your mod wouldn't work with this mod here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=392543

I'm in the mood to mod my Vanilla Civ V and I like this mod, that mod I linked, and Valk's Economy mod, just wanna know if I should expect errors or not. Thanks!

-Moosh

(FIRST POST EVAR!)

Just thinking about some indigenous civs that have shrunk or superceded. Justification in brackets.

Fez - Cultural (Historically dominant city of the area)
Lagos - Maritime (Centre of Yoruba people)
Mycenae - Cultural (Massive civ centre in Bronze Age)
Hattusa - Militaristic (")
Balí - Cultural / Maritime (Not needed if you're adding Jakarta or Manilla as well, but may work otherwise)
Hokkaido - Militaristic (Very different and separate from Japan itself and has co-existed rather than been a menber of it; as pretty much the only new option in the area I could think of,may work if running this on a true position.)
Colchis / Tbilisi - Cultural (Again more a client to successive powers than a smaller province, and has been culturally important for 4000+ years.)
Babylon - Similar to Hatussa / Mycenae.

You may've noticed most are concentrated around the Near East and the 'Fertile Crescent'. I'm trying to make a scenario and map of Civilization's Cradle from North Africa to Iran of thereabouts, and these are the citystates I was gonna litter all over the place. Big shout to Opera for great work.

Angkor Wat (Cultured) - Actually Angkor Wat is just the (large) temple that was part of the huge Khmer capital called just Angkor.

Moar (suggestions):

States that were subjugated to form different Chinese Dynasties:
Qi (Mil) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_%28state%29
Cao Wei (Mil) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao_Wei

Culturally relevant Indian state:
Magadha (Cul) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadha

Successful Indonesian city states:
Malacca (Mar) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malacca_Sultanate
Palembang (Mar) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palembang

Island state eventually annexed by the US:
Hawaii (Mil) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hawaii

@Alderaan, looking through your suggestions and they pretty much all make sense. I think all the civs and city states were very modern and eurocentric focused.

I'm reconsidering Cao Wei because it technically (after a coup) conquered the other Three Kingdoms era states and became the new (Jin) China.


I'd add Hong Kong to the suggestions because it is well known and has been a true city state for over a hundred years. Also Troy (technically in Asia) would be a nice addition :)

Sorry if the list is unnecessary long, but it's hard to judge what countries/cities interest people, so I'd rather give a more extended selection.
Also, is there maybe a way for others to help? (Compiling info for the pedia or whatever.)

Some, maybe more recognisable (that or I'm strange), names for Africa:
Rwanda, Burundi, Gambia, Equatorial Guinea, Lesotho, Swaziland, Djibouti (all actually countries)
Kinshasa, Brazzaville (capitals of the two Congos)
Puntland, Somaliland (Somalian quasi-independent regions)

Europe, if they end up becoming outnumbered by others:
San Marino, Vatican, Andorra, Lichtenstein (or is that one already in the game?)

American (less interesting choices, imo):
Easter Island, Kingston (or just Jamaica), Port-au-Prince, Santa Cruz, Cayman Islands, Barbados, Dominica, Martinique

Some more Middle Eastern:
Quatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Abu Dhabi, Yemen, Oman

Asian:
Brunei (small kindgom), Bhutan, Tibet (?)

Personally, I think the African states were created in a too arbitrary way after colonialism to be defined as city.states themselves. however, I'd back the idea of more centres of.particular ethnic groups, like Lesotho, Swaziland plus Brunei and Bhutan. Somewhere like Oman or equatorial Guinea just seems a bit too artificial. Countries with straight lines for borders is a bit of a giveaway. It's probably quite easy in this context to get too interested in 'modern equivalents' instead of looking for genuine small city focused nations. The point of a mod like this is pedantic-ness (lol) and realism. And I lol'd when u got the word quasi in ^_^"

I tried using this mod but for some reason some city states had like scrambled namebars, with white boxes in the center, and all of them had the american civ-icon next to their name instead of the city-state icon, wierd stuff!

Hey, this is more of a city-state correction, but could you change Tyre and Sidon to maritime instead of militaristic? They were focused on sea trade, and their only legit military was naval based to protect their trade routes. I find it kind of insulting as a direct descendent of the Phoenicians.

Also can we add Ur? Maybe as cultured?

Do all the new city states show up with the same color (teal) for anyone else?

She didn't differentiate in colours, it's not a bug. All her city states use cyan.
It's easily changed if you dare to do some XML.

A few more to represent other areas of the globe...

Muʻa, former capital of Tonga
Nan Madol, ruined city in Micronesia
Bacatá, present day Bogota, major centre of the Muisca Confederation
Zeila, former capital of the Adal Sultanate, now in Somalia (Somaliland)
Kamapala, capital of Uganda, former capital of Kingdom of Buganda
Igodomigodo/Benin City, former capital of Benin Empire, now in Nigeria
Garama, ruined capital of the Garamantes, now in Libya

Is there a newer version than v2 in the Mod Browser somewhere?

Pouakai, nope. v2 is the latest.

I thought so. What is the progress on v3?