Its just the flics and an ini file.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/AoKSamurai.zip

Can you post a previev?

I can't, sorry, this computer doesn't have the necessary programs.

Ok, I found these on the net. This will give you some idea of what you are downloading.

http://aok.heavengames.com/pics/units/unique/Samurai.jpg
http://www.ciudadfutura.com/aok/aoe/aok/civilizaciones/samurai.gif

Thanks, that one is better than the original CIV 3

Well, I don't know about that, but it does look more like a Samurai in full battle dress. The Civ3 Samurai looks more like the Samurai in his daily wear. The orginal Civ3 Samurai will be used as a Japanese Flavor unit, the Kensai, or "Sword Saint". I admit I used to play Oriental AD&D. :blush:

Isn't there a Kensai in the PTW feudal Japanese units?

Not that I am aware of. But of course I could be wrong.

I still play AD&D, when i get the time that is . . .

GIDustin

yes there is a kensai in PTW, it looks alot like that

the prev is very nice :) but is it not a tad big ??

That is just an animation I found on the net somewhere becuase I don't have the necessary tools to make a real preview. That is what the unit looks like, but it is zoomed in. Don't worry the actual unit is regular size, just like the other AoK units.

Originally posted by AirForce Ace
yes there is a kensai in PTW, it looks alot like that

Am I missing something? Here is the list of Japanese units in PtW.

I don't see Kensai listed anywhere.

its not listed as kensai its its listed as minamoto samurai, its the same thing just differant name

yup, kensai and minamoto samurai graphics would be pretty similar, will probably be a UU for the Minamoto clan...

I would've said that unit was more like a No-Dachi than a Kensai...

Yes, I agree with Zulu, the original Civ3 Samurai is more of a Kensai, whereas and the PtW Minamoto Samurai is should be used for the Japanese UU Samurai, and the AoK Samurai could be used for a No-Dachi Samurai.

maybe a kensai in casual dress but not in full battle uniform

Hmmmm..... :confused:

I don't know a kensai from a minamoto from a tuna tataki. :p

So...I'll just make a preview.

My 300th post! :goodjob:

:king:

Since all you samurai masters are hanging about this thread, let me ask you a question. I've been using this unit as "Ronin," a hidden nationality UU for Japan. It's supposed to be a mercenary samurai, which I suppose ronin to be (from the DeNiro movie). With all the new anims from PTW, what would be the best anim for my "Ronin" unit??


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Well, I guess a Ronin could be considered a mercinary in some cases... When you think about it, weren't all Samurai mercinaries?

I would just use the vanilla Civ samurai, maybe with a darker version of their clothes, but that's it.

For some Ronin pics, go here: http://www.cusd.chico.k12.ca.us/~nleek/Tokugawa/cast.html

Samurai were not mercenaries. They were bound to their Daiymo through strong ties of honour. If their master died, they either committed seppuku (honourable hari-kari) or became ronin.

Yes, but in essence, they were like mercinaries.

In essence? Mercenaries are soldiers whose services go to the highest bidder, and who have no vested interest in the conflict. I hardly see how that can apply to samurai honour-bound in fealty to their lord.

You guys should keep debating...you're neck and neck on the post counts. :D

I didn't know there were women samurai! (http://www.samurai-archives.com/svk.html) I wish someone would make a female samurai unit. In fact, I wish there were more female units period.

Anyway, a google search reveals that ronin were often vagrant, troublesome, rebellious and formed outlaw bands, so that works for me as a hidden nationality unit.

Samurai were not mercenaries. They were bound to their Daiymo through strong ties of honour. If their master died, they either committed seppuku (honourable hari-kari) or became ronin.

Sorry Zulu but if you do alittle research you'll find that Samurai almost never acted with the noble ideas of "honor" in mind. Most Samurai acted with the same self serving attidutes of European knights. The myth around Samurai began in the modern era when Imperialistic Japan conviced its population that they should act in the same noble tradition and do things like the Kamikazi pilots. So basicaly it is a bunch of fascistic propoganda.

Originally posted by Duddha


Sorry Zulu but if you do alittle research you'll find that Samurai almost never acted with the noble ideas of "honor" in mind. Most Samurai acted with the same self serving attidutes of European knights. So basicaly it is a bunch of fascistic propoganda.

But...
The ruling class (The samurai) made rules what is honorable and what isn't.
This is very truthful tradition but it's meaning was to serve the rights of samurai in the first place. Samurai could in the end do almost anything they wanted.
Cutting the head of peasant wasn't big deal example...however cutting the head of another samurai WAS big deal.

And as described by Zulu Ronin were those who had didn't have master...there were periods that samurai could be described as "mercenaries", travelling the land and trying to find income...just watch "The Seven Samurai"...where are they lords? They don't have one...so they all are ronins.
However the idea of calling some who doesn't have lord "dishonorable" was to make people obedient to lord they served...Samurais whole existence was serve their lord.

Ninjas have their own chapter especially what comes to their "honor"...

Originally posted by Duddha


Sorry Zulu but if you do alittle research you'll find that Samurai almost never acted with the noble ideas of "honor" in mind. Most Samurai acted with the same self serving attidutes of European knights. The myth around Samurai began in the modern era when Imperialistic Japan conviced its population that they should act in the same noble tradition and do things like the Kamikazi pilots. So basicaly it is a bunch of fascistic propoganda.

still doesn't change the fact that they weren't mercenaries :p

(at least until the end of the feudal system)

Kal el- AoK Samurai: Converted by JimmyH I have to learn to keep my mouth shut:eek:! This is great though, Kal-el the entire Civ3 Community thanks you:D :goodjob:!

still doesn't change the fact that they weren't mercenaries

(at least until the end of the feudal system)

true:)

Speaking of JimmyH, What happened to him? His last post was back in august!

I sure hope we didnt lose the ability to convert AoE units . . .

GIDustin

Originally posted by Kal-el


Am I missing something? Here is the list of Japanese units in PtW.

they are so many news units in PTW?? all these are really in PTW?

An Excellent alternative to the Civ3 and PTW's Samurai Warrior :).

I like this unit very much indeed. I believe it suits me quite well.

Konbanwa
Please excuse this interuption from a first timer and new to civ3, but the very word Samurai means "to serve".
The leaderless ex Samurai were the Ronin and outcasts among the civilised society of Nihhon.
John B
Oyasumi nasai

1 year, 3 months later... :)

- GIDustin