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Suppersalmon
Dec 15, 2002, 05:33 PM
Who do you think will win the premiership now ?

Darkness
Dec 16, 2002, 04:21 AM
Man Utd

They have RUUUUUUUUUUD and they will be better when Beckham and Keane come back. They're getting better each game, their only weakness is the center of the defence, cause they still miss Jaap Stam, and of course Barthez's antics in the goal.

BTW Verons goal this weekend was a beauty!

willemvanoranje
Dec 16, 2002, 08:43 AM
i hope arsenal

col
Dec 16, 2002, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Darkness
Man Utd

They have RUUUUUUUUUUD and they will be better when Beckham and Keane come back. They're getting better each game, their only weakness is the center of the defence, cause they still miss Jaap Stam,

Actually over the last few games the defence has been excellent. Silvestre and Brown playing together have been our best pairing for ages. I cant see Blanc getting back in the team again unless there are more injuries.

Jaap? What happened in the end to the allegations of ahem chemical abuse.

anarchywrksbest
Dec 16, 2002, 02:47 PM
Manchester UNited!!! :D

And if not them......Everton :p

Dell19
Dec 17, 2002, 11:57 AM
Man United of course!

We're playing as we should have been all season and no one can match us at the moment although tonights game is a potential slip up as Chelsea are another form team.

willemvanoranje
Dec 17, 2002, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by col


Actually over the last few games the defence has been excellent. Silvestre and Brown playing together have been our best pairing for ages. I cant see Blanc getting back in the team again unless there are more injuries.

Jaap? What happened in the end to the allegations of ahem chemical abuse.

He still plays doesn't he? And you can't deny Manchester UTD would've been better off with him than without him.

Crimson Sunrise
Dec 18, 2002, 01:15 AM
Glory, glory Man United, glory, glory Man United!

lord_byron_nz
Dec 18, 2002, 05:21 AM
I'd like to say Chelsea but I can't see them being consistent enough for the rest of the season. Ranieri is doing a good job but he still needs another two years to get them to the next level. I can see Man U really pilling pressure on Arsenal but my loyalty still lies with the micers so...vote Chelsea.

Dell19
Dec 18, 2002, 07:19 AM
Woo Man United could well win the Very Worthy Cup ;)

Shabbaman
Dec 20, 2002, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by col
Jaap? What happened in the end to the allegations of ahem chemical abuse.

He was suspended, and now he's the main reason why Lazio's on top of the chart in Italy. They don't even need Nesta anymore...

And hey, who didn't get suspended for 'taking' nandronol?
It's a crappy drug anyway, I still wonder if it's just a higher level through fysical excersize or that it's used to mask something else. 'Cause else it's pretty useless (let's start a doping thread, it belongs in every sports forum:rolleyes: )

MrPresidentUK
Dec 27, 2002, 05:58 PM
Liverpool. You may laugh (actually you may not) but mark my words we will come good. We will do an unbeaten run a la Arsenal and win the title on the final day.

Sa~Craig
Jan 27, 2003, 04:29 PM
Manchester United are going to win everything this year and no offense MrPresidentUK but Liverpool are playing Cr*p and can not do anything to get back up the table at least you can win the UEFA next year though:p

MrPresident
Jan 28, 2003, 07:01 AM
Liverpool. You may laugh (actually you may not) but mark my words we will come good. We will do an unbeaten run a la Arsenal and win the title on the final day.
:goodjob: That MrPresidentUK sounds like a smart guy if slightly familiar...:hmm: Anyway Liverpool will win the Premiership, just give us time.

[MrPresident starts to sing You'll Never Walk Alone]

willemvanoranje
Jan 28, 2003, 08:47 AM
:lol: how much do you need? One decade? Two? Ten?

MrPresident
Jan 28, 2003, 09:00 AM
how much do you need? One decade? Two? Ten?
I get the feeling you are mocking me.

Darkness
Jan 29, 2003, 04:08 AM
Sorry MrPresident, but there's no way Liverpool is going to win the Premiership until they stop destroying good goalkeepers. Dudek and Westerveld both slecked off in quality while playing there and now he's gone Westerveld is leading la liga in spain with Real Sociedad. You need a reliable goalkeeper to win a championship....




OK, maybe not in England, 'cause I'm not overly impressed with Arsenals' Seaman and Man U's Barthez either... :crazyeye:
But I still think Liverpool aren'r going to be champs!

polymath
Jan 29, 2003, 06:27 AM
If Liverpool slap the Arse tonight, Man U will win the league.
Otherwise, it's a long hard slog...

willemvanoranje
Jan 29, 2003, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by MrPresident

I get the feeling you are mocking me.

:lol: noooooo, not at all. :p Naah, j/k. Liverpool will win the championship soon enough, not this season though.

MrPresident
Jan 30, 2003, 05:06 AM
You need a reliable goalkeeper to win a championship....
Ever heard of Kirkland?
Liverpool will win the championship soon enough, not this season though.
Sadly I have to agree that this year is not going to be our year. :(

Darkness
Jan 30, 2003, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by MrPresident

Ever heard of Kirkland?


Yes I have.
He's a bit inexperienced, but that's not a problem...
He's injured, and that IS a problem...
And Liverpool's keeperstrainer will ruin him soon enough...

Sorry MrP, but Liverpool sure is louzy at getting (and most of all) keeping good goalkeepers...

polymath
Jan 30, 2003, 05:58 AM
Woohoo! Liverpool 2 Arsenal 2!
Good work Livers!
And Emile "Ooh, there was a gust of wind, I've fallen!" Heskey even got in there at the dying breath!
I would have preferred a Livers win, nonetheless this puts an entirely different complexion on the season. But what is wrong with Owen?

Sa~Craig
Jan 30, 2003, 06:14 AM
well Liverpool 2-2 Arsenal.

Thanks liverpool all we got to do now is win our game in hand by about 10 goals (its possible) and beat arsenal at highbury and we win the league just so long as we win the same amount of games as they do.

MrPresident
Jan 30, 2003, 07:03 AM
But what is wrong with Owen?
He has forgotten his shooting boots.

Dell19
Jan 30, 2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by MrPresident

He has forgotten his shooting boots.

He lost them in a bet :rolleyes:

Saruman
Feb 02, 2003, 08:04 AM
Yeah, the draw gave Arsenal some pressure, something I don't think they can handle. United are going strong and will win the Premiership unless even more people get injured.

The problem with Owen? He plays at Liverpool;) :D

ajkcdad
Feb 03, 2003, 12:34 PM
Excuse a Yank for asking, but isn't Man U like the New York Yankees over here in baseball?? In other words, they win so often that people root against them after awhile??? Are people really Arsenal fans over there, or do they root for Arsenal simply because they're not Man U??

Appreciate the insights...

willemvanoranje
Feb 04, 2003, 02:28 AM
I don't think so, Man U is a very good team which wins a lot, but Real Madrid wins much more, and they're still popular as well. I got interested in English football in a great year of Arsenal, and at the time they had 2 Dutchmen (Bergkamp and Helder) there, so that's when I decided to support them out of all English clubs. I think the Yankees can be compared with Bayern Munchen within Germany.

MrPresident
Feb 04, 2003, 05:17 AM
Excuse a Yank for asking, but isn't Man U like the New York Yankees over here in baseball?? In other words, they win so often that people root against them after awhile??? Are people really Arsenal fans over there, or do they root for Arsenal simply because they're not Man U?? Man Utd have won a lot over the last 10 years or so and people do root against them because of that. However it is more complex. Man Utd get a lot of support, especially overseas from the Munich air disaster when 8 of their best players were killed. It was a long time ago but I think it does account for some of their support. Also Man Utd aren't the most successful team in English football history, that honour goes to the mighty Liverpool. We have won 18 league Championships, far more than any rival. However for some reason we haven't won one for well over a decade. But that is going off-topic. Arsenal fans are really Arsenal fans but people do root for them when they are the main rival of Man Utd (like me for example).

Dell19
Feb 04, 2003, 11:15 AM
Usually the dominant teams rotate around. Like Man Utd have had an amazing 10 years which is still going and Liverpool had a similar run before. And in single game terms then anyone can beat anyone on their day, like Bolton winning against Man U and Everton winning against Arsenal.

Saruman
Feb 04, 2003, 11:38 AM
True what MrPresident said. But Liverpool isn't that dominant, United has 15 or 16 premiership wins and are a bigger candidate than Liverpool this year.
Thought I'm a United fan, My father is a Liverpool fan, and my grandfather an Arsenal fan ( how ironic :rolleyes: )

One of the things that probably has made United popular is players like Beckham (extremeley popular in Asia) and that it's the biggest club in the World (counted in fans). Most of the United fans are from around the world, especially here in Scandinavia. Much of my Generation is Utd fan over here (I'm 15 btw).

Excuse a Yank for asking, but isn't Man U like the New York Yankees over here in baseball?? In other words, they win so often that people root against them after awhile??? Are people really Arsenal fans over there, or do they root for Arsenal simply because they're not Man U??


Quite funny, United and Yankees are one (in shares and stuff). owned by the same company or buisnessman I guess. Thought United aren't that dominant any more.

BTW, United has wone every Premiership since 91/92 except 94/95, 97/98 and 01/02.

willemvanoranje
Feb 04, 2003, 12:13 PM
yupz, and those years Arsenal took over :D

Dell19
Feb 04, 2003, 01:51 PM
Nope, one of them was Blackburn :p

ajkcdad
Feb 04, 2003, 06:24 PM
Was Blackburn the team with Sutton and Shearer?? I'm able to kind of follow the game through cable every now and then. I get so confused between Premiership games, FA Cup games, and don't ask me how teams qualify for those international (UEFA or Champions Cups)??? (Same thing..or different??)

willemvanoranje
Feb 05, 2003, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by Dell19
Nope, one of them was Blackburn :p

oh yes, of course, 94/95 :lol: I remember now.

MrPresident
Feb 05, 2003, 06:57 AM
But Liverpool isn't that dominant Not now but we were far more dominant in our heyday than Man Utd is now.
Was Blackburn the team with Sutton and Shearer??
SAS.
I get so confused between Premiership games, FA Cup games, and don't ask me how teams qualify for those international (UEFA or Champions Cups
To qualify for Champions League you have to finish in the top three or four places in league or win the competition the previous year. To qualify for UEFA you have to finish between four and sixth (not really sure because it changes every year practically) or win either the FA or the League Cup or win the competition the previous year. Simple.
Much of my Generation is Utd fan over here
The Glory Hunters.
Quite funny, United and Yankees are one (in shares and stuff). owned by the same company or buisnessman I guess.
They aren't owned by the same company or businessman but do have a business deal, not sure what that entitles (I think they sell each other's stuff in the respective club shops).

Suppersalmon
Feb 05, 2003, 12:48 PM
u could also get into the Uefa cuo by winning the Inter toto cup which you have to apply for and one team from every league will be allowed in i think

Darkness
Feb 06, 2003, 03:26 AM
I thought it was the last three team sremaining in the inter toto cup????

MrPresident
Feb 06, 2003, 05:46 AM
I thought it was the last three team sremaining in the inter toto cup????
It is best not to think to hard about the Intertoto cup we have lost many a good man that way.

Dell19
Feb 06, 2003, 10:29 AM
Plus you can get into europe from being awarded the fair play award, well I think so anyway...
The Intertoto cup has 3 winners who go into the UEFA cup.

willemvanoranje
Feb 06, 2003, 11:24 AM
the country that wins the fair play awards just gets one extra participant right?

MrPresident
Feb 06, 2003, 11:41 AM
Plus you can get into europe from being awarded the fair play award, well I think so anyway... I believe you are correct. I think it is the country that had the best disciplinary record in all of last season's European competitions gets a place in next season's UEFA cup.

Saruman
Feb 08, 2003, 04:20 AM
That's true (in CM atleast;))

As to CL, it depends on what league you play in, here in Norway, the winner gets a place in the CL Qualification. In England, 1st and 2nd goes directly into the cup, while 3rd and 4th have to qualify.

But It changes I Believe. (In England)

Dell19
Feb 08, 2003, 06:55 AM
UEFA decides the amount of places each country gets and then that country gets to decide how to allocate them although there are probably some limits, like the FA couldn't let conference winners get into europe (Unless they won the FA cup).

willemvanoranje
Feb 08, 2003, 10:26 AM
Is there a country where the cup winner goes to the CL?

Dell19
Feb 08, 2003, 03:21 PM
I doubt it, as they are more likely to get into the UEFA cup, if anything.

MrPresident
Feb 08, 2003, 05:15 PM
Does anyone else call the UEFA cup, the wafer cup?

Dell19
Feb 09, 2003, 03:24 AM
I don't... but there is bound to be someone.

Suppersalmon
Feb 09, 2003, 05:49 AM
I do :D

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