This game has started!

We're playing a heavily documented game. Each one of us keeps up an extensive log of our progression and we all note our demographics every turn! You can see our full reports at this web site (http://www.straland.com/statistica/).

Game characteristics

Players
1: Emperor Matrix (matrix_AT_straland.com), Straland/Stralanders/Stralandic (Scandinavia)
2: Big Col (colinf_AT_btinternet.com), Lancashire/Lankies/Lanky (Random)
3: Melifluous (stevebroad2002_AT_hotmail.com), America
4: Leader of the day Anarres (civ3_AT_danwilliamson.net), the Anarchists, Anarchists, Anarchist, (Random)
5: SageThe Realist (SageTheRealist_AT_yahoo.com), Carthagians
6: Ryuujin Plexus (enemysoldier88_AT_yahoo.com), Shinshuu/Shinshi/Shinshi (Japanese)

Map size: standard
Map shape: continents, 60% water
Climate: standard
Barbarians: roaming

This game started in 2003 in Europe and in 2002 in America. ;)

Damn, I can't look. Can you be more specific about what is in the log. Maybe I can use something smart you got there? :confused:

We agreed to have a log in the DDPP game. In my own log I have things like:
4000BC. Settled near river.
3500BC. Finished 5th scout, start second warrior. Hut gave "warrior code".
3000BC. Bla bla.. etc etc...

I guess since I was talking about something like this, you'd better include me in.
;)

Col - Random (Lankies)

Stats? And no Cracker? :) I had better see him here... :p

Col, I added you to the list. :)

ERIKK, I made my log more in spoken language instead of code language, trying to make it as much pleasing to read. But it's still a game report and not as if I'm a true leader of a true Civilization.

I'd like to play this game, it sounds interesting. :)

I'll play as Japan if possible, if not, Rome would be ok.

I want to watch this game--but I'm not sure if I want to play

Hey Matrix,

This is just what I was planning on doing for my latest PBEM, PBEM4...

So...

Can I join in?

I would love to be the Americans (if not Carthage)

Melifluous

Plexus & Melifluous, I've added you as well. ;)

You know what I was thinking? Perhaps I should make a special user for my site, where the web pages of this PBEM will be located, and you can all access that with FTP and change it, without my interference. How about it? :)

Are you (Col, Plexus, Melifluous) all accustomed with FTP and making a web site?

Yep,
Sure am...

See my site My Civ3 Site (bit new) (http://www.marsden-broad.co.uk)

Good enough?

Melifluous

Yup - I've taught a course on web site creation ;)
Just learning the joys of PHP - well I bought a book on it yesterday.

For info Mel + Mat
My email is colinf_AT_btinternet.com (just replace _AT_ by @)

Ok, great! :)

PHP is out of my league yet. ;) I only use premade scripts, but can't program in it myself. :o

And what about you, Plexus?

By the way, I'll email your future login in a few minutes. ;)

Oh, what a pity, websites is something I have no experience whatsoever with - otherwise I would have loved to join. But I will lurk and give scathing critizism :mwaha:

I would like to join, but my 'straight' HTML is too sparce.

If someone can give me the basic template maybe I can still do it. Any offers?

Hey anarres,

Just get yourself a decent editor...
Then copy someone elses site, and change it enough to avoid copyright issues :)

Anyway I use Acehtml, it's freeware and I like it ;)

Melifluous

Originally posted by anarres
I would like to join, but my 'straight' HTML is too sparce.

If someone can give me the basic template maybe I can still do it. Any offers?

You know you can use Word to create perfectly servicable web pages. In fact its probably the easiest way of creating tables.

Just create your page in Word then Save as HTML. Upload it.
Et voila. Bobs your uncle.

;)

Word is OK if you dont mind your code being about 4 times longer than it need be that is... ;)

But Yeah word is easy... :cool:

Looking forward to this :goodjob:

Melifluous

Originally posted by Melifluous
Word is OK if you dont mind your code being about 4 times longer than it need be that is... ;)


If you think Word is bad, I use FrontPage but the code it produces is not exactly optimised. :eek:

Yea, I know HTML, some C and very little PHP... here's my old site: http://liquid2k.com/plexus/ , My email is Enemysoldier88@yahoo.com . I have frontpage also, I usually have to play with the code to get it down to a respectable file size. :(

OK, I'm in. :D

I think I should be able to use Dreamweaver well enough for the purposes, I've just got a thing about not producing shabby looking work, so maybe I'll learn some more :)

I think I might go for Random this time (thanx col :goodjob: ), I don't really have a favourite civ anyways...

I would like my nation to be called "Shinshuu", land of the gods.

Formal: Shinshuu
Name: Shinshi [plural]
Adjective: Shinshi [plural]
Leader Title: Ryuujin (dragon king)
Leader Name: Plexus

Welcome, anarres! :)

To all, I'll make a template which you can easily edit. And if there's a problem, there are enough people on this forum you can ask for help. ;)
Originally posted by col
Col - Random (Lankies)
What's the formal and adjective?

The Formal is Lancashire
The People are Lankies
The adjective is Lanky
The Leader title is Big
Leader name is Col

In what sequence do we play?

Col, Melifluous and anarres are GMT, I'm GMT+1 and Plexus is GMT+a lot (Japan), right?

So I think it would be best if Plexus starts, than me, and then the three Britons. :) At what time of the day are you mostly available? I mostly around 17:00 GMT.

I'm 7pm GMT onwards.

I've made the web site! :D

It's: http://www.straland.com/statistica/ (surprise :crazyeye: )

All the players will be able to update their own section. ;) I've sent them an email about it.

Well, I've cutomized mine, tell me if it's too much. :)

Plexus is GMT+a lot (Japan), right?
I'm only GMT -8(PST)... :) but I can play usually from GMT 10PM- 9AM.

Yeah, well, at the other side of the world. :p

Yeah, well, at the other side of the world. :p

:rolleyes: anyways... do we have a start date yet?

Well, we're still waiting for at least one more. But (as I've mentioned earlier) we'll start early next year.

Ok :)

Ok - I'm evenings and weekends.
I'll start planning the website.

@matrix - does the site supprt PHP and MySQL? Just something I'm playing with at present. Its time I got into web databases.

My site supports PHP and MySQL, but I already use a MySQL database. Is it possible to use/make a second? :confused:

You may try anything you like, but if you delete the database at present...I'll kill you. :rolleyes:

;)

Edit: I just realized you can't do anything with MySQL without the appropriate login/password. And I won't give that to you. :p

Originally posted by Matrix
My site supports PHP and MySQL, but I already use a MySQL database. Is it possible to use/make a second? :confused:

You may try anything you like, but if you delete the database at present...I'll kill you. :rolleyes:

;)

Edit: I just realized you can't do anything with MySQL without the appropriate login/password. And I won't give that to you. :p

Fair enough. i thought you might say that.... :D

Matrix I'll play if you have any openings left. By the way, when you gonna put my pic on the collage???

;)

About the picture: not soon. :undecide:

But welcome in this PBEM, sabo10! :) What Civ would you like to play? And what's your email address?

Formal: anarchists
Name: anarchists
Adjective: anarchists
Leader Title: leader for the day
Leader Name: anarres

I've had a play and can't work out where it uses the Adjective form, can anyone tell me?

It uses the adjective part like: "A Japanese Samurai". So, I would suggest that you change your adjective to Anarchist.

Plexus, thanks. I just realised that the city name with colour blind help is also the adjective.

Matrix, please use anarchist as adjective. :)

Originally posted by anarres
Plexus, thanks. I just realised that the city name with colour blind help is also the adjective.


Really? Well, you learn something new evreyday.

I've been thinking... How spoiling is it that we can see each other's map? Cos if we decide it's not that bad the making of the web site will be much easier. We can have an overall map and an overall story on the front page from the start. And if you secretly settle on a distant island, you may erase that from the map you send to me (for making that overall map). And secret armies that go somewhere will only be shown in the logs which we still won't read.

I think knowing the starting location of others won't be that bad. :) But if you disagree, then just forget about it.

I dunno, we are playing against each other.

It would weaken the expansionist trait. Aeson has posted a good thread at Poly on the importance of knowing the map for forming your strategy.

I dont think its a good idea. I dont mind close up pix - its the big pic that gives too much away.

Agree with Plexus and Col. I don't want you to see me coming ;)

You may be a better civer than me anarres, but rest assured, I will see you comming. ;)

I never claimed to be better than anyone. Beating the AI involves working out the numbers mostly, and predicting it's behaviour.

These PBEM games will be the real test of skill.

Yea, well, good luck to evrey one. :)

Ryuujin Plexus

Originally posted by Plexus
I dunno, we are playing against each other.
Yea, but it never matters much because when you know a part of the map, you always see it when another city is built there. The only thing the others see is what you've explored and they haven't, and what you strictly want to keep as a secret, you can erase...

But I see that all of you disagree, so never mind... :rolleyes:

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By the way, sabo10 wanted to join but hasn't responded yet. And without him, we're still with only five. Shall we play with us five, or wait for more players?

Matrix, for me knowing others start lcations is a big advantage. I understand that it would be the same for everyone, but it changes the game somewhat.

Once we have the world map each, then I would be more willing to post my local maps and minimap.

It would be interesting to play a game where all maps were public, and on second thought I want to abstain. I would be happy playing either way.

I cans see it both ways too. If evryone has the public map then I guess there's no advantage for anyone.

Do what you want to do, Matrix.

If any room come availible, ill play, Sage Williams is my name and Greece is my game (civ).

Originally posted by col
Do what you want to do, Matrix.
Although I started and lead this PBEM, is as much your game as it is mine. ;) So never mind. We can always decide otherwise during the game...

TheRealGameSage, welcome! I hope you are going to stay and not stay away as Sabo10 does. :mad: A few things: are you acquainted with making web pages and aware of the obligations with joining this PBEM? I.e. at least noting your demographics every turn?

Furthermore, what Civ do you like to play and what's your email address? :)

hey matrix, this is the id im going to be using from now on, my email is SageTheRealist@yahoo.com and I play as scandinavia but favor the carthaginians and greeks as well.

Ok. Too bad about the space in your name... :undecide:

But I'll sign you up! :) Last question: where do you live? That's important for the sequence of turns.

I live in the US matrix and the space, its a shame but ill cope.

The game is on!

I've got a nice startup location. I'll update my section soon. From now on you may not read my log anymore! ;)

I've taken a screenshot of the map in the military advisor screen and zoomed out while centering the map on my capital. And I've noted the demographics.

The demographics are a must! You don't have to send me your demographics every turn, but do note them every turn. Then every five turns or so (or whatever you want), send them to me...

What's the turn order, Matrix?

As per Matrix first post

Is this game full?

Originally posted by Kevinicus
Is this game full?
Yes it is Kevinicus. You are just one day late....:(

Darn. Ok then, have fun :)

OK,

I have played my turn and mailed it on to anarres...
Pretty sure he is playing it now, least that what I can gather from our MSM conversations...

Does anyone else think that random civs and custom names for your civilisation is a bit iffy?
Who are these people, what is their race? UU?

Anyways :love: love my start pos... :love:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/StatisticaMeli4000.jpg

Melifluous

PS. Happy New Year Y'all

Here is my start position :D

And heres my start. Not great.

My race is the Celts.

Col, why's your capital Manchester?

By the way, my starting position is fine. I got ivory close to me and lots of grassland. :)

Off to Matrix!

Here's my sl... I started upon dyes :D

Took my turn, ok starting position forgot the pic sorry.

Originally posted by Matrix
Col, why's your capital Manchester?



Because Manchester is the capital of Lankyshire.
;)

Ah. Cool. ;)

Perhaps my next PBEM should be played with Groningen (my province) instead of Straland. :rolleyes:

Here's my start. ;)

http://www.straland.com/junk/StartStat.gif

Here's what my log looks like. :) I've only covered the map as it is the only spoiling thing there yet.

http://www.straland.com/junk/statisticapage.jpg

Four posts in a row is bad. :spank: But I do have something to say, again.

I changed the demographics part of the site. Instead of images for charts, I now simply have numbers on the site, but people can download the Excel file where all the charts are in. :)

Wow, cool animated gif!!!!! I wil

ps:
(When are are you gonna update the demographics on the DDPP site. I heard these were all sent to you before christmas.)
ps2:
WARNINGThere is something wrong with your Statistica page. I dont know how I did it but in the Statistica page I got a log of 3350BC when going through the players names from bottom to top. I Think it is your DDPP log which I have been avoiding for weeks now :mad:

EDIT
Aha I got it: SageTheRealist's log is your DDPP log! :lol:

Who's got the save? :rolleyes: It's been quite a while since I've got one.

Same here, you still playing sage?

I have resent turn 3 to Sage, just on the off chance I never sent it originally.

The date of my save is 3rd Jan

If sage doesn't respond, can we just consider him dead and get on with it?

If Sage doesnt respond, i will take his place if you tell me what i have to do.

He doesn't respond. :mad: I've also sent him a PM on which he doesn't reply. Send the save to WildFire444. :undecide:

WildFire! Welcome to the Statistica game! :D What's your email address? I'll send you data so that you can keep your own log on the website up to date. ;) I'll also change "SageTheRealist" into "WildFire444"...

(By the way, I haven't received any PBEM yesterday, while I'm playing in four. :sad: )

wildfire4848@yahoo.com

BTW, i am in like 8 PBEM's :D

Also, what am i going to have to do? Should i take screenshot every turn? Also, have you sent the stuff i need to keep the log updated?

Thanks WF444

That main page wont open Matix. I can open the main page to view the stuff but it wont let me into the FTP stuff.
And BTW, who has the game?

What is it with Civfanatics and car crashes? I have been told by sage's brother that he got in a car crash and broke his leg, he's coming home tomorrow. Now what are we going to do?

Ouch! :(

Well, if he thinks he can continue, and wants to, I guess WildFire444 should give back his spot. :rolleyes:

If he can continue, i will give my spot back to him, since it was his originally. And if you ever need a sub, i will be ready!

Are guys playing it right now with Sage? Or have you not been updating this thread? Or are still waiting for his arrival?

Still waiting for his arrival. :rolleyes:

Off to Matrix.

I am sorry sorry for the wait, and yes i was in a car crash, but im back so i sent the save!

Hey man welcome back...

Hope you and your car are OK :love:

Lets get rolling wid da game...

Melifluous

No apologies necessary Sage. Sometimes RL can take over your whole life. :)

Alright, has this game stalled again? What is up with this?

Waiting is bad...

I would like to see this game going too. It was one of the more interesting ones.

So this is over?

:cry:

I don't know where the savegame is now. :confused:

And actually I am able to make enough statistics for DDPP. The only problem is that the other players don't really have that much. Only Plux made an HTML page (which I still have to add to the website :o).

I think we can declare this one dead. :undecide:

Thats a shame. Restart?

Noooo! Can we restart with people we know will play... like me?;)

Ahem, and maybe someone else too.

After all, look at the first post on page 5 :)

i will play

I'm pretty reliable too ;)

Without SageTheRealist anyway. :rolleyes:

Well, it's fine with me.