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Abaddon
Jan 03, 2011, 05:29 PM
whats wrong with private messaging them?

Mathalamus
Jan 03, 2011, 05:31 PM
that gets tedious as well. and since i like to keep things clean, i usually delete PMs whenever i feel like it (i read and respond first) so it can be a bad thing.

Mad Man
Jan 03, 2011, 05:35 PM
we could always create a "diplomacy" social group.

Abaddon
Jan 03, 2011, 05:40 PM
That would make a HELL of a lot of sense!

ZeletDude
Jan 03, 2011, 05:43 PM
@ People complaining about vms and pms..
You would suck at NESing... Just saying. It's really not that hard to pm, vm, or create a social group the endless and constant spam of the thread is not needed..

Mathalamus
Jan 03, 2011, 05:44 PM
that would make sense. but i seriously doubt it will last.

@ People complaining about vms and pms..
You would suck at NESing... Just saying. It's really not that hard to pm, vm, or create a social group the endless and constant spam of the thread is not needed..

i know its not hard, but i prefer to not piss off people with spamin their profiles or inboxes.

Sonereal
Jan 03, 2011, 05:44 PM
VMs are annoying as hell. PMs and SGs are much better.

ilduce349
Jan 03, 2011, 05:44 PM
I support this idea as well.

Abaddon
Jan 03, 2011, 05:51 PM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=380
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=380
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=380
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=380
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=380
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=380
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=380

Join everyone! :D

taillesskangaru
Jan 03, 2011, 11:45 PM
An excellent idea Abaddy.

I'll relaunch this soon, maybe tonight if I have time.

Abaddon
Jan 03, 2011, 11:54 PM
Yay! :D

DroopyTofu
Jan 03, 2011, 11:55 PM
Wait, a total relaunch? What are we doing about our countries, the map, and the 126 pages of diplomacy we developed?

taillesskangaru
Jan 03, 2011, 11:57 PM
Wait, a total relaunch? What are we doing about our countries, the map, and the 126 pages of diplomacy we developed?

No, just unpausing this.

DroopyTofu
Jan 03, 2011, 11:58 PM
Are we going to keep the same starting areas, or mix the countries up some?

taillesskangaru
Jan 04, 2011, 12:01 AM
Are we going to keep the same starting areas, or mix the countries up some?

Uh, what? No, all the countries, etc stays where they are.

Although, I might have to do something regarding islands.

Abaddon
Jan 04, 2011, 12:01 AM
i am pretty sure he means to simply get on with the next update.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 04, 2011, 05:09 AM
I made a new video were my new leader gives a speech to the world cant wait to start again so I can post it :eekdance:

taillesskangaru
Jan 04, 2011, 05:27 AM
Game unpaused!

IMPORTANT: For those who already sent in their claims or LP orders for this turn, you can't change them now. If you haven't send in your orders, please do so ASAP.

an agreement was reached with Eralatuk exchanging 5 of my XPs for 5 of their LPs.

Agreement void. Mathalamus gets no XP in wartime, sorry. Abaddon, you have 5 LP to spend.

ilduce349
Jan 04, 2011, 05:38 AM
I would like to announce peace between Mongolia and Japan. Mongolia cedes the territory of Liaoning in return for peace.

For any non-Asian country still at war with Mongolia:
Should you land soldiers on Asian soil, we along with the entire ADU will have no choice but to attack you.

respond in the group.

Abaddon
Jan 04, 2011, 05:43 AM
Pants.. I still have 1 saved from last update tho right.. i just not bank 5 this turn :(

taillesskangaru
Jan 04, 2011, 05:45 AM
Pants.. I still have 1 saved from last update tho right.. i just not bank 5 this turn :(

This turn you have 6 XPs and 5 LPs. You've already used your XPs.

Abaddon
Jan 04, 2011, 05:48 AM
Give 1 to France, one to the Caliphate, another to New Carthage, one to Madagascar and finally one to CELTICEMPIRE

Gruekiller
Jan 04, 2011, 06:05 AM
Klein Venedig is intrigued by Ormus' offers of an oil organization thingy, and would be interested in taking part.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 04, 2011, 08:24 AM
The Caliph Nedim Ibn Mehmed has given a speech where he addresses the world, translation in vid info, and can I spend the 1 LP that Abaddon has given me now or next turn
GEqzQozHo6I

taillesskangaru
Jan 04, 2011, 08:43 AM
can I spend the 1 LP that Abaddon has given me now or next turn

Next turn of course.

Mathalamus
Jan 04, 2011, 02:01 PM
the Mathalamus Empire would like to announce that peace with Mongolia has being signed, despite the fact that the Emperor publicly stated that he thought the treaty drafted by japan was too soft on Mongolia, and that its still a slap on the wrist.

the Military has returned to the Island, and assumed defensive positions all over the Island.

DroopyTofu
Jan 04, 2011, 02:46 PM
Uh, what? No, all the countries, etc stays where they are.

Although, I might have to do something regarding islands.

Sorry, I was having a bout of insomnia, and trying to post at 1 am, so my reading comprehension level was at 0. For some reason I thought we were starting totally over.

Spain is pleased to see that the world is finally reaching peace. Hopefully this whole war will be over soon.

civplayah
Jan 04, 2011, 04:06 PM
The Caliph Nedim Ibn Mehmed has given a speech where he addresses the world, translation in vid info, and can I spend the 1 LP that Abaddon has given me now or next turn


He's creepy.

Tailless- Due to my right-click button malfunctioning, I can't copy and paste the map. Will you accept written orders instead of visual?

EDIT: Of course, now it works. :rolleyes:

civplayah
Jan 04, 2011, 04:07 PM
Australia, will you please accept a peace offer?

Duke Blackstone
Jan 04, 2011, 07:23 PM
KK. I make peace with Mongolia.

Mad Man
Jan 05, 2011, 12:20 AM
France offers white peace to Mongolistan, in other news my internet has been acting wonky all day and this is te first time i've gotten it to work, so for the time being i'm leaving my country in Zelatdude's god like hands until I get it to work properly.

GhostWriter16
Jan 05, 2011, 08:16 AM
We accept the treaty.

Omega124
Jan 05, 2011, 01:25 PM
Australia, will you please accept a peace offer?

Yes. White Peace, I assume?

civplayah
Jan 05, 2011, 04:21 PM
Not sure what that means, but I assume it means no deals involved?

It's done. :)

Abaddon
Jan 05, 2011, 04:45 PM
White usually means a return to things before the war doesn't it? Status Quo would be as things are now...

GhostWriter16
Jan 05, 2011, 06:32 PM
Do you accept peace with us Omega?

Mathalamus
Jan 05, 2011, 06:51 PM
Mathalamus news

Public opinion of the Emperor lately was very low. due to these reasons

1. bending to the will of other nations (violates Independence Constitution)
2. Confusing war/peace declarations a few years ago (violates common sense)
3. overriding the citizens wish (violates freedom, Except that it was justified)
4. not demanding harsher terms against Mongolia in exchange for peace (technically violates the no appeasement policy)
5. Briefly agreeing to Vassalage under Japan (seriously Violates independence Constitution)
6. Allying with Facist nations, specifically Japan (Violates common sense, as well as making us look evil)

he will not be voted out of office (OOC: thats because 'Mathalamus' is a title, not a name, and that will get confusing) but he did lose popular support and is forbidden to override the people for any reason.

GhostWriter16
Jan 05, 2011, 06:52 PM
@Mathalamus- Does this mean you are declaring war on me again?

Mathalamus
Jan 05, 2011, 06:53 PM
@Mathalamus- Does this mean you are declaring war on me again?

no... it just means that the Emperor isnt well liked for not being harsh on you.

anyway, i cant change what was already done.

ilduce349
Jan 05, 2011, 07:44 PM
anyway, i cant change what was already done.
You were able to a while ago.

Allying with Facist nations, specifically Japan
Cancelling our defensive pact?

Briefly agreeing to Vassalage under Japan
How the hell is changing sides in a war (the only condition to our agreement other then crap like I take responsibility) vassalage?

Mathalamus
Jan 05, 2011, 08:09 PM
Cancelling our defensive pact?

no. i cant cancel it, but i do need to redefine the Allies here.

Allies: only those who has signed an Alliance treaty with the Mathalamus Empire can be considered allies. currently no one is allied to me.


How the hell is changing sides in a war (the only condition to our agreement other then crap like I take responsibility) vassalage?

as the USSR pointed out, dismantling most of the navy, and the offensive capability of the Military can be considered vassalage of myself to Japan. i should have known about that sooner.

ilduce349
Jan 05, 2011, 08:48 PM
as the USSR pointed out, dismantling most of the navy, and the offensive capability of the Military can be considered vassalage of myself to Japan. i should have known about that sooner.
I took those out of the thing on the condition that you would help me in the war on Australia. Which you accepted.
I am (and was) still very confused as to why you consider it vassalage.

USSR just used his charisma (something that I lack) to get you to turn on me and bend the rules of the agreement. If you notice, half the points he made talked about the agreement Mongolia offered, not mine which I think was much more fair.
I had logged off about 10 minutes before he made the post, which is the only reason why I didn't counter it until it was to late.

The people should be mad at your for your blinded trust in USSR, not for accepting vassalage to Japan.

Mathalamus
Jan 05, 2011, 08:54 PM
USSR just used his charisma (something that I lack) to get you to turn on me and bend the rules of the agreement. If you notice, half the points he made talked about the agreement Mongolia offered, not mine which I think was much more fair.
I had logged off about 10 minutes before he made the post, which is the only reason why I didn't counter it until it was to late.

The people should be mad at your for your blinded trust in USSR, not for accepting vassalage to Japan.

Charisma had nothing to do with it. the USSR logically presented why it can be considered vassalage, and why i shouldn't accept it. since i clearly cannot argue against the truth, i listened to them. their leader probably went to a few logic schools.

the people were similarly impressed by the USSR, so no one was really upset that the USSR made a far better point than you did.

ilduce349
Jan 05, 2011, 09:04 PM
Charisma had nothing to do with it. the USSR logically presented why it can be considered vassalage, and why i shouldn't accept it. since i clearly cannot argue against the truth, i listened to them. their leader probably went to a few logic schools.

the people were similarly impressed by the USSR, so no one was really upset that the USSR made a far better point than you did.
He didn't use logic, he bent the truth. How is that using logic?

He just did what every charismatic leader does, presents an argument that sounds Truth to the eyes of the naive, and as a result the naive fall into his trap. I don't see how it was anything close to vassalage.

Mathalamus
Jan 05, 2011, 09:09 PM
im not naive. if the USSR was leading me to a trap, i would know about it. at present, they do not have anyting to gain by makign me the enemy.

ilduce349
Jan 05, 2011, 09:41 PM
Just so you are aware, before I signed a peace treaty, every single one of your lands was to be attacked 3 times. There was (based on the orders given) a 64.2% chance (based on the laws of probability I was taught in date management) that you would have been destroyed that turn. Then I signed peace. It was a trap as he was leading your nation to be destroyed in an attempt to get me to declare war on him, getting all the democracy's who had defensive pacts with USSR (a good 10 of them I believe) to declare war on me. He tried to sacrifice your nation so that I would be destroyed. I didn't fall for it, you did.

It wasn't an attempt to make you an enemy, it was an attempt to make me his enemy. Had he succeeded, you would have been eliminated (64% chance of that) but 4 fascist nations would have fallen with you.

ZeletDude
Jan 05, 2011, 09:51 PM
Where the hell do you come up with such impossible hypothesises not everyones out to get you don't be dramatic.

CivGeneral
Jan 05, 2011, 09:53 PM
...oookayeeeeeee...

At least the powder keg is put out.

ilduce349
Jan 05, 2011, 10:20 PM
Where the hell do you come up with such impossible hypothesises not everyones out to get you don't be dramatic.
When did I say that everyone was out to get me. What I do know, is on 4 different occasions, USSR attempted to provoke Japan in subtle matters.

taillesskangaru
Jan 06, 2011, 05:02 AM
@ Everyone, but Mathalamus and ilduce in particular: this sort of discussion is exactly the kind of thing I don't want to see in the thread. It basically consists of you two arguing about the subtleties of semantics and drivel which has little to no relevance to any other players. One or two posts I'm willing to tolerate, but if you want to carry on do so in PMs or in Groups.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 06, 2011, 05:31 AM
@tailless is the update soon :eek: :drool:

taillesskangaru
Jan 06, 2011, 05:32 AM
Update 7

AD 2108

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44300000/jpg/_44300883_dayinpafp416.jpg

Asian Diplomacy



http://i.imgur.com/qfJkE.png


Espionage :scan:

All actions last turn failed but were not discovered.

Battle Results :ar15:

Current Wars (AFAIK)

Pirate War of Aggression
Chuck Norris' Nation vs New England

Anti-Fascist War
France and FoCE vs Denmark

Out of protest I'm not going to publish the full battle report so just look at the map to see the territorial changes.

XP/LP

Everyone gets their normal peacetime or wartime XP/LPs plus any gifted or lost XPs/LPs as listed below:

France +1LP
Caliphate +1LP
Carthage +1LP
Madagascar +1LP
Denmark +1LP
New England +5LP

GM Comment:

Slight Modification on LPs: I'm going to put a cap of 5LP that can be used on either any one attack move or in a defence/reserve capacity.

That is all, for now. As usual, PM me any grievances if I made a mistake. It's now Turn 8.

taillesskangaru
Jan 06, 2011, 05:53 AM
Oh, I almost forgot. Places grouped together with boxes are considered the same province, and all are worth 1 XP to claim. They're mostly islands. I've compensated some countries with extra territories nearby.

I've also merged several provinces together, mostly in Africa and South America. Again, I've compensated where appropriate. Most of the territories merged are neutral anyway though.

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 06:17 AM
Love the Asian Diplomacy Picture.

As someone who attended that particular meeting, I can certainly say its true.

Abaddon
Jan 06, 2011, 07:04 AM
I hope all those that I gifted LP are nice, and perhaps if they are not expanding will exchange LP for XP with me...

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 07:36 AM
I hope all those that I gifted LP are nice, and perhaps if they are not expanding will exchange LP for XP with me...

if you do not object, the earlier agreement (five of my XPs for 5 of your LPs) is reinstated and will apply in peace time only.

a new religion has being (re)founded, in Mathis!

this new religion, called Mathalia, is an offshoot of Christianity, and the ony differences are:

1. Defense of Self, others, and the state is the most important belief. outside of the Holy trinity, that is.

2. Isolationism is recommended, Because you can get through life with little disappointments and Little Expectations. it allows you to Survive and Rely solely on yourself.

3. the only Authority that is supported in the holy book is the Authority over yourself. authority of the state, other people, Police, etc over your own life is not allowed. not even parents have a right to do anything more than Guide their children.

4. Evil is forbidden. the Holy book states that when the Person is Evil, it is classified as a mental illness, as humans are naturally Neutral or Good. a person who does an Evil action must do some Good actions to make up for it.

The religion has existed before, in Calgary, however, the Founding person and Only adherent has Died due to an Air raid over Calgary when the Canadian civil war broke out. he did, however, create a book, which survived as it was smuggled out to the United states, and somehow ended up on Madagascar.

the Emperor has studied the Holy Book carefully, and deduced that the new Religion is good, but will attract few followers due to its late founding.

the Holy book will not be Exported to other nations.

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 07:41 AM
We will forbid the practice of this religion in Mongolia (Its a political threat to us) and we will execute all of its followers most painfully.

Also, NOTICE:

Beijing Times

Mobs from Karakorum, who had installed a new Great Khan last year, have killed the former Khan by cutting him into a dozen pieces, reports say this move was due to protest of the seemingly mad declaration of war against Great Japan, our brothers. Negotiations with the new government have led to old relations being returned in exchange for a province on the Southern Pacific border, Laojing China. The Great Khan says this will not cause them to lose their Mongol citizenship.

In other news, the Great Khan Domination will reconsider the situation in North America and Europe after a satisfactory peace with Australia has been signed. However, we are too unstable to consider direct involvement. Our people do not want another war at present.

We should also note that electoral reforms may be considered when we return to peace.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 06, 2011, 07:50 AM
2108 Jeddah Olympic Games

http://oi55.tinypic.com/2pqktvo.jpg

It has been 100 years since the Olympic games were held, the Caliph has ordered the construction of a new stadium in Jeddah and sign ups have started for the games! To sign up post Jeddah in Bold, see ya there! P.S a preview of the stadium

http://s3.amazonaws.com/greenwala-attachments/production/attachments/16235/slider/qatar_world_cup_stadium2.jpg?1288655083

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 07:51 AM
Jeddah

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 07:54 AM
Jeddah

the Emperor is not surprised at the ,Mongolian declaration that Mahalia is forbidden. in a way, it is a political threat to fascists, but not Democracies, who usually tolerate Religions and religious people.

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 07:58 AM
the Emperor is not surprised at the ,Mongolian declaration that Mahalia is forbidden. in a way, it is a political threat to fascists, but not Democracies, who usually tolerate Religions and religious people.

We generally tolerate religion, though we reserve the right to forbid it when we wish.

We consider Mahalia not to be a religion, but a subversive activity, any adherents are severely tortured so that they wish they were dead.

Dem Taqat
Jan 06, 2011, 09:20 AM
Ahh, Olypmics. Carthage would love to send competitors to Jeddah, and hopes this will allow all nations to come closer together through sport, just as humans have done throughout the centuries.

The new Mahalia has gained a small proportion of followers in Carthage, particularly on Islands in the Indian Ocean. The government has recognised this new Religion as equal to all others, and allows its worshipers to continue their lives as they did before.

The Committee has also been reorganised, as several Island provinces are merged under 1 government. The committee's size has been reduced due to this, effective following the upcoming elections. It appears this years elections are the closest in the last ten years, and may see major changes in the local governments, and possibly the committee as well.

Carthage reminds all nations we are now selling XP's, although an advantage will be granted to Eralatuk for their past generosity. :deal:

DT
Carthaginian :)

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 09:30 AM
The new Mahalia has gained a small proportion of followers in Carthage, particularly on Islands in the Indian Ocean. The government has recognised this new Religion as equal to all others, and allows its worshipers to continue their lives as they did before.

well, since Carthage somehow got a hold of the Mathalia holy book (probably by internet) we are now exporting the proper books to Carthage.

the Emperor has stated that no one will be punished for leaking the Holy book onto the internet.

Dem Taqat
Jan 06, 2011, 09:37 AM
Early converts were traders, who then spread the religion around on their travels. We are unaware of an Internet copy, but such a thing would likely help the religion to spread. Are there any special symbols for this religion? (the sort that could be made into jewllery ect. (and then sold to beleivers for money :deal: ))

DT
Carthaginian Merchant :deal:

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 09:44 AM
Early converts were traders, who then spread the religion around on their travels. We are unaware of an Internet copy, but such a thing would likely help the religion to spread. Are there any special symbols for this religion? (the sort that could be made into jewllery ect. (and then sold to beleivers for money :deal: ))

DT
Carthaginian Merchant :deal:

The Original Symbol was lost to time, but the Emperor created a very rudimentary Copy because his Art skills suck.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j195/mathalamus/NewBitmapImage-2.jpg

it looks bad, i know but that's the best i could do.

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 09:45 AM
If the Holy Book of this religion is found, it is burned. Possessing it, or even reading it, is a Capital Offense. As is traveling to Madagascar.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 09:53 AM
If the Holy Book of this religion is found, it is burned. Possessing it, or even reading it, is a Capital Offense. As is traveling to Madagascar.

in response, the Mathalamus Government has posted the complete, high quality version of the book on the internet. the Emperor Emailed a PDF copy (which you cant alter) for him to read and see just how dangerous it is.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 06, 2011, 09:54 AM
The religion is banned in the Caliphate, for Muslims, but the 1% Christians can convert if they want

Duke Blackstone
Jan 06, 2011, 09:54 AM
We will journey to Jeddah! Is this the Summer or Winter Games?

@Tailless. I guess you forgot my claims because I couldnt post a map? Understood.

@Japan. I dont particularly like where you are. SE Asia is MINE. In exchange for your 5 territories there I offer you any 5 claims this turn, and one next turn, OR a declaration of war.

This is your one offer. In light of precious episodes of Japanese diplomacy, your lands could be taken at any time by one of your madrid enemies. This does not make Praetoria feel very safe. That is my reasoning.

Thankyou
The Imperator

Dem Taqat
Jan 06, 2011, 09:59 AM
Carthage thanks the Emperor, and will begin producing items bearing this symbol (to sell for Money!) and hopefully begin printing the holy book. An enterprising young woman is already setting up a company to produce goods for this new market, and has received some aid from the local government in Singapore. (where the company is being set up)

In other news local elections have been largely completed, and aside from growing socialist trends in Panama and Bermuda very little has changed. Of more Import is the committee apointments, and following that the election of the new PM. The two major competitors will likely be: James Hardell from Bermuda, and still popular Frederick Gerani from Northern Tunisia.

DT
Politicin' Merchant :deal:

NedimNapoleon
Jan 06, 2011, 10:14 AM
We will journey to Jeddah! Is this the Summer or Winter Games?

Snow? In the middle of Arabia, Summer games of course

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 10:17 AM
in response, the Mathalamus Government has posted the complete, high quality version of the book on the internet. the Emperor Emailed a PDF copy (which you cant alter) for him to read and see just how dangerous it is.

Very well. The site is censored in Mongolia.

The religion is banned in the Caliphate, for Muslims, but the 1% Christians can convert if they want

We encourage you to ban it for everyone.



@Japan. I dont particularly like where you are. SE Asia is MINE. In exchange for your 5 territories there I offer you any 5 claims this turn, and one next turn, OR a declaration of war.

This is your one offer. In light of precious episodes of Japanese diplomacy, your lands could be taken at any time by one of your madrid enemies. This does not make Praetoria feel very safe. That is my reasoning.

Thankyou
The Imperator

If a war starts, we will side with our Japanese friends.

Duke Blackstone
Jan 06, 2011, 10:22 AM
Snow? In the middle of Arabia, Summer games of course

Excellent! Our gymnastics, wrestling, weightlifting, and table tennis teams are the talk of the world! If you need help funding it, please let us invest!

@Dommination.. Really? I should have just finished you last turn. And you were at war last turn!... Asian diplomacy. So ridiculous.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 10:23 AM
Very well. The site is censored in Mongolia.

you do know, of course, that its posted on more than one website? i woudlent be surprised if ti was posted in civfanatics. :mischief:

(i meant 2108 civfanatics)

Lighthearter
Jan 06, 2011, 10:41 AM
Jeddah! New England will put aside her differences with the Caliphite in order to send her fencing teams to the Olympic games!

On a side note, DIE DIE DIE USFCNP!

This new Mathalia religion is tolerated, but like all other non-Christians worshipers of it are denied legal counsel, voting rights and property ownership.

-L

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 10:43 AM
@Dommination.. Really? I should have just finished you last turn. And you were at war last turn!... Asian diplomacy. So ridiculous.

True... Different leadership now though....

Also, we are forgetting about the Insanity of 2107, referencing it in our country is a crime. Please don't. We are forgetting it ever occurred.

Of course, some of our people want Laojing back as well:mischief:

Let's just avoid an Asian War OK?

you do know, of course, that its posted on more than one website? i woudlent be surprised if ti was posted in civfanatics.

(i meant 2108 civfanatics)

If CivFanatics existed in this Universe, it would have posting about former IOTs on it, as well as this IOT, thus making this game fictional. This is unacceptable for me as a player in this game.

Our nation denies that any such site as "CivFanatics" exists or ever has existed.

@LH- Any chance of peace being signed between you two? I'd rather keep my ally over there alive...

Lighthearter
Jan 06, 2011, 10:45 AM
@LH- Any chance of peace being signed between you two? I'd rather keep my ally over there alive...

Only if DC agrees to my eminently reasonable demands. He'll find out what they are if he asks and not before.

-L

Darth Caesar
Jan 06, 2011, 10:48 AM
This war is only going to end with the death of one of us LH.

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 10:50 AM
Only if DC agrees to my eminently reasonable demands. He'll find out what they are if he asks and not before.

-L

Might I ask what your terms would be? (If you REALLY don't want him to know without him asking, shoot me a PM.)

Last time you weren't being reasonable. Granted, DC wasn't either.

This war is only going to end with the death of one of us LH.

He's New England, why shouldn't he have New England proper? That said, feel free to kick him out of the Middle States...

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 10:51 AM
This new Mathalia religion is tolerated, but like all other non-Christians worshipers of it are denied legal counsel, voting rights and property ownership.

so... they are all homeless?

EDIT: im so overextended. i silently promised myself to send over Aid to Australia, and now ill send aid to New England., at present, i don't know who has a more urgent need, and still need to finish my nuclear program.

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 10:54 AM
We shall be attending these Olympics in Jeddah

NedimNapoleon
Jan 06, 2011, 10:55 AM
Current Olympic games list of countries attending:
The Caliphate
Mongolia
Madagascar
Carthage
Praetoria
New England
FoCE
Japan
Siberia
Spain
The Caribbean Sun
Denmark
Ottoman Empire
Ormus
Pacific Federation

Black list:
Egypt

Disciplines:
Archery
Athletics
Badminton
Cycling
Fencing
Gymnastics
Handball
Judo
Modern pentathlon
Sailing
Shooting
Swimming
Synchronized swimming
Table tennis
Tennis
Volleyball
Weightlifting
Wrestling

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 10:58 AM
so... they are all homeless?

EDIT: im so overextended. i silently promised myself to send over Aid to Australia, and now ill send aid to New England., at present, i don't know who has a more urgent need, and still need to finish my nuclear program.

If you help Australia, I will invade you. STAY OUT OF IT!

If you help New England, I will invade you. I'm not invading New England at present because the USFCNP and New England are basically equal nations in squabble, and DC attacked first. You on the other hand, would be an aggressor, and I have a DP with Darth Caesar.

STAY OUT OF MY AFFAIRS, OR SAY GOODNIGHT. It would be quite pleasurable for me to torture and execute your emperor and to cut all of Mahalia's worshippers into pieces.

@Duke- On second thought, if you two decide to fight, I'll stay out of it. I have several reasons for this, one of which is you are also in the ADU, another is you don't have a DP with Mathalamus and Ilduce does.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 11:00 AM
not outright war, im not that stupid, unlike you, Mongolia. i would be sending some LPs.

though if you declare war over that, the Great khan really *is* stupid. and sadistic.

in any case, we have very Few qualified people who will attend the Olympics. one of them happens to be the Emperor but i don't think heads of state can attend.

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 11:00 AM
We should create some sort of International Olympic Comittee to organize where the next Olympics will be and such.
I'll create the social group if such an orginization is wanted.

Lighthearter
Jan 06, 2011, 11:02 AM
Math, help Australia. Omega will back you up. I already have significant aid from a few parties. Enough that I don't give a flip about another nation DOWing me.

EDIT: X-post with Zelet - I offer Buffalo for the 2110 Winter Olympics.

-L

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 11:03 AM
Math, help Australia. Omega will back you up. I already have significant aid from a few parties. Enough that I don't give a flip about another nation DOWing me.

-L

alright, but should you be losing again (for some reason), ill send whatever i can spare.

antoher cross post. i offer Mathis for the 2112 Summer Olympics.

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 11:07 AM
not outright war, im not that stupid, unlike you, Mongolia. i would be sending some LPs.

though if you declare war over that, the Great khan really *is* stupid. and sadistic.

in any case, we have very Few qualified people who will attend the Olympics. one of them happens to be the Emperor but i don't think heads of state can attend.

Send LPs to Australia, and I kill you. I'll permit it for LH though.

We should create some sort of International Olympic Comittee to organize where the next Olympics will be and such.
I'll create the social group if such an orginization is wanted.

Sure.


EDIT: X-post with Zelet - I offer Buffalo for the 2110 Winter Olympics.

-L

Are you serious? Its a war zone, and currently held by Darth Caesar. Unsafe and we will not attend due to the fact that its a war zone and an occupied territory.

alright, but should you be losing again (for some reason), ill send whatever i can spare.

antoher cross post. i offer Mathis for the 2112 Summer Olympics.

And we're embargoing you, so we won't attend here ever. In fact, if you dare send support to Australia, we'll be holding the city by then.

Lighthearter
Jan 06, 2011, 11:10 AM
Check the map, Dommy. I've retaken New York AND Pennsylvania. AND I'm occupying Florida. AND IF YOU DOW MATH I'M NUKING YOU WITH NO FURTHER WARNING THEN THIS.

-L

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 11:10 AM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=383

There but DO not create a topic yet, Ive got a great idea and Lunch at school is coming up for me to create it, so please wait.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 11:17 AM
Send LPs to Australia, and I kill you. I'll permit it for LH though.

Mongolia does not have any juristiction over the Empire. the Emperor will decide what to do. not you. and shoudl you nuke Mathis, well, say goodnight.

Lighthearter
Jan 06, 2011, 11:20 AM
Well Math, all this really means is you send me LPs and I forward them to Omega . . . didn't think this through, did you Dommy?:p

-L

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 11:22 AM
Well Math, all this really means is you send me LPs and I forward them to Omega . . . didn't think this through, did you Dommy?:p

-L

congrats sir, now dommy knows and will declare war on me for doing that :(

every action i do always lead to war...

Lighthearter
Jan 06, 2011, 11:23 AM
If he does I'm firing all my nukes at him, rest assured. That was to make a point to him about how utterly pointless his attempting to control you is.

EDIT: Dommy you can stop threatening your own nukes. Intelligence sources have confirmed that you have not successfully detonated a test bomb yet. That puts my Arkham Facility miles ahead of anything you can do.

-L

west india man
Jan 06, 2011, 11:25 AM
Jeddah. Math's religion is tolerated in Brasil. I offer Brasil for the 2100 Football (Non-American definition) World Cup

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 11:29 AM
i have made a decision. i will be sending two LPs to each Australia and New England. i have 2 free LPs, just in case.

and in doing so, i have fulfilled the msot important Rule in the Holy Book

1. Defense of Self, others, and the state is the most important belief. outside of the Holy trinity, that is.

since both New England and Australia is on the defensive, this counts.

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 11:32 AM
We Declare War on Mathalamus. We are not slow to follow our promise.

@LH- You nuke me, I'll declare war on you, and then nuke you as soon as we detonate a bomb. I thought you were supposed to mind your own business? I'm going to PM you.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 11:34 AM
We Declare War on Mathalamus.

very well. the war will continue until one of us is dead.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 06, 2011, 11:35 AM
The results will be calculated by the RNG for each discipline, so there will be no cheating

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 12:33 PM
Jeddah

@Japan. I dont particularly like where you are. SE Asia is MINE. In exchange for your 5 territories there I offer you any 5 claims this turn, and one next turn, OR a declaration of war.

This is your one offer. In light of precious episodes of Japanese diplomacy, your lands could be taken at any time by one of your madrid enemies. This does not make Praetoria feel very safe. That is my reasoning.
The original AU SOI agreement gave Cambodia and Southern Vietnam to me, Singapore to Carthage and the rest of Southern Asia to you. You took 3 of the territories you agreed to give to me...

I am prepared to fight over the lands. As you are the only non-ADU Asian nation, you would be considered a hostile nation entering Asia should you declare war on us. This means all 4 members of the ADU, and the 4 out-side of group alliances you have should declare war on you should you declare war on me.

Fortunatly Japan is done with useless bloodshed. As Vietnam is only a minor part of our SOI, we will ignore it. But should you enter it again, you will not be so lucky.

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 12:56 PM
Read the rules topic first!!! (http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1961)

2114 up (http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1964)
2112 voting (http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1963)
Here is the topic for the 2110 voting! (http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1962)
I've finished the rules, please re-read them!
Some people have been making mistakes.

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 01:46 PM
Voting for 2112 Summer Olympics have begun. (You cannot vote for self remember)

Dem Taqat
Jan 06, 2011, 01:49 PM
Well the Committee has been elected. More importantly the vote for Prime Minister has been cast. Twice. The first vote was inconclusive, With Hardell receiving 22 votes, Gerani taking 16, and Tuune of Keregulan gaining a mere 4. This is however, a major leap forward from his previous record of just 2 votes.

The second vote was cast the next day, with Tuune disallowed due to his lack of votes. In this vote Gerani was able to secure most of North Africa and Italy, as well as Hawaii. Hardell received all the remaining votes, and just eked out a win with 28 votes, the exact amount required to elect a Prime Minister. This has been the closest election in Carthaginian History, and the country is still somewhat surprised that Frederick Gerani had not been able to dominate the vote as he had done for the past 9 years.

Well, I have to say that this honour I find bestowed upon myself is rather Unexpected. It has been a long time since My Predecessor was challenged Significantly in an election. He has done remarkably well in his tenure as leader, taking us to the peak of our Territories, the peak of our Economy, and out of the Chaos of the past...

... It is a time of uncertainty in today's diplomatic world. Wars ravage our Fair planet, and our attempts to stop them are proving ineffective. I know some advocate a more active role in such things, but it is my firm beleif that joining a war will only expand it, and this is the opposite of our Foreign policy goals over the coming years...

...I intend to maintain all our agreements with foreign Powers. We are particularly interested in maintaining close ties to Spain and South America, as these nations have proven stable despite the changing world around them. We will also seek closer ties with our Southern Neigbours in Eralatuk, feeling our close borders mean a good relationship is vital. We will reafirm our ties with Preatoria, despite our differing Origins. The nation has been fair in dealings with us, and we hope to continue this. The recent war between Mongolia and Mathis is a concern, and we will respond in the traditional Carthaginian Way, strict neutrality. This is not our war!...

...I intend to keep this country Strong. We have come a long way, and I intend to take us further still. The path of neutrals is hard to walk, but we have made it this far and we don't intend to turn back...

Onward Carthage, to a glorius Future!
Thank You All

OOC: Foreign policy has not changed, the new PM is a firm beleiver in neutral trading. :OOC

DT
Politicin' :shifty:

MaxaTheGreat
Jan 06, 2011, 02:55 PM
Jeddah!

Siberia would like to participate as well.

Sonereal
Jan 06, 2011, 03:46 PM
Jeddah

The Caribbean Sun wishes to participate as well and compliment the Caliphate on restarting a tradition.

DroopyTofu
Jan 06, 2011, 03:49 PM
Jeddah

Could I get a deal with The Caliphate to endorse the incredibly popular Vestwithsleeves as the official outerware of the 2108 Olympics? It would be a very high honor to the Spanish people.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 06, 2011, 03:50 PM
why not we accept

civplayah
Jan 06, 2011, 04:25 PM
I'll attend the Olympics.

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 05:40 PM
Neo Old Kingdom
Government: Monarchy

Leader: Pharaoh Ramses XL the Great

Religion: Egyptian

Language: Egyptian

Currency: Egyptian lira (are you seeing the pattern yet?)

Capital: Memphis

Development: Second-world bordering on first.

Economic Policy: An odd mix of capitalism, barter, and, uh, give-the-pharoh-moneyism (neo-ancient-feudalism?)

Social Freedom: Egyptians enjoy surprisingly free social lives for a monarchy.

Political Freedom: Womens! And due to this being the future, Egyptians are not fully without democracy. Several cabinet positions are open for vote (such as propoganda!), as well as the pharaoh's wife in certain circumstances (ie, there aren't any available ones in his family... due to genetic modifying, incest is rendered irrelevant to a child's development. They're all snotty nosed brats anyway.)

Military: The land army is large enough to protect Egypt proper. The navy is a force to be reckoned with, provided that the opposing country is smaller.

History: Emerging in 2090, the Neo Old Kingdom has had a violent history. Ramses XII founded the nation on the pretense of "cuz I wanted to" and basically started screwing with people. Ramses was killed by his son, Ramses, who took over the kingdom. This happened 28 more times (again, genetic engineering), which sort of explains why areas inside Egypt are not under the Neo Old Kingdom's control. Ironically, Ramses XL is a size 26.

http://i.imgur.com/xUdLG.png?2944

Salmon deliciousness is starting ten, lighter pink are claims (changed).

Gruekiller
Jan 06, 2011, 05:54 PM
Klein Venedig welcomes Egypt to the world stage, and offers a trade agreement. It also announces that it's considering taking part in the next summer Olympics.

2108 KLEIN VENEDIG ELECTIONS

Poll turnouts for the established parties dip lower, though Emilia Garcia narrowly keeps her hold on the chancellery office. The sudden surge in Monarchist votes is attributed to the recent annexation of large portions of the former Peru, which seems to be sympathetic to the Monarchist platform.

CHANCELLERY ELECTION
Emilia Garcia (Fr/Li): 66%
Matthias Mark (Mon): 33%
Reinhard Horstmeyer (Ei/Un): 1%

PARLIAMENTARY ELECTION
Freiheit/Liberdad Party: -12 (65 seats)
Monarchist Party: +20 (33 seats)
Einigkeit/Unidad Party: -5 (2 seats)

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 06:00 PM
I would like to sign a trade agreement.

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 06:00 PM
Egypt accepts if there will be chariot races and Starcraft 19.

ooc: FREAK OUT, DAMMIT

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 06:07 PM
ooc: FREAK OUT, DAMMIT
I wanted a new nation to come in Africa. So why would I?

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 06:10 PM
Because it's ME. :p

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 06:10 PM
Voting has now begun for
2110 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?&do=discuss&groupid=383&discussionid=1962&gmid=27479#gmessage27479)
2112 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1963)
and
2116 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1965)

Cast your vote!

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 06:19 PM
Because it's ME.
The only time I ever saw you in an IOT was IOT2, and I was there for like a week before quitting. I don't know enough about your to formate an opinion. Also not to mention that formating an oppinion on you because your YOU would be meta-gaming.

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 06:38 PM
I'm not talking about metagaming, I'm talking about me being here at all. I haven't been on CFC since Civ V came out, and haven't posted in this subforum for even longer.

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 06:46 PM
I was unaware of that.

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 06:59 PM
So are there still giant alliances that split the world in two, which would result in a huge-ass war if someone were to, say, assassinate the heir of Austria-Hungary?

CELTICEMPIRE
Jan 06, 2011, 07:00 PM
Denmark would like to send athletes to Jeddah

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 07:06 PM
So are there still giant alliances that split the world in two, which would result in a huge-ass war if someone were to, say, assassinate the heir of Austria-Hungary?

There's already wars going on across the globe. More than one actually.

Say, want to make yourself a nice colony in Madagascar? DOW Mathalamus!;):mischief::p

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 07:09 PM
Well I did see that nice 10 provinces per turn thing.

EXPLOIT!

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 07:19 PM
Don't join the imperialists war.
We would like to invite you to a trade agreement and defense pact,
(I'm blue in central Europe.)(not the eastern European poles) (:joke:)

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 07:21 PM
@Zelet- We aren't at war are we?

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 07:21 PM
Are there NPCs? If so, I declare war on them and claim Greece.

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 07:22 PM
No were not. And me and Denmark are discussing peace right now.

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 07:24 PM
No were not. And me and Denmark are discussing peace right now.

Can you send me a copy of your treaty? Just so I know what it is and whether or not I should give them moral support?

Also, I know you don't like us, but still, there are innocent people in Mongolia, can you put pressure on the Theocrats against them using nukes? I know you are a reasonable nation, and I don't want nuclear war (If he nukes me, he's getting it back.)

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 07:25 PM
Or you could build space particle beam cannons so you don't have to bother with nukes.

CELTICEMPIRE
Jan 06, 2011, 07:26 PM
Gustav assures everyone that Denmark wants peace, even if it takes abandoning our African colonies (which true Danish loyalists will evacuate). The Mathalian Religion is invading, people of all races in Porto-Novo, Benin, DFR gathered to here a priest (or whatever you call it) of that Religion. the Army quickly fired on that crowd, killing 50, any Religion that can not recognize Gustav as God will be persecuted. Danish soldiers will fight like real men on a field of battle, not with nukes. Gustav takes complete control of the Danish Army, now that Commander Adolf was killed fighting in Greenland.

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 07:26 PM
Or you could build space particle beam cannons so you don't have to bother with nukes.

LH gave me a Nuclear Threat to not attack Madagascar, who were supporting the people who invaded us. So I DOWed Madagascar, and am prepared to face nuclear attack. Which means we nuke them in return ASAP, which will be a miserable situation.

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 07:30 PM
We have posted in the Rise of the Lost Social Group.

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 07:33 PM
LH gave me a Nuclear Threat to not attack Madagascar, who were supporting the people who invaded us. So I DOWed Madagascar, and am prepared to face nuclear attack. Which means we nuke them in return ASAP, which will be a miserable situation.

What fun!

I probably should develop nukes after I haphazardly expand in Africa.

And about claims only next to your provinces or an accessible sea... it's 210something. I'm fairly sure we have discovered flight.

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 07:34 PM
Peace has been signed with Denmark:
The following terms.

Togo and Gamibia (Danish Africa) will be turned over to France

The Two North Sea Islands between Iceland and Norway will be turned over to me.

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 07:37 PM
We have posted in the Rise of the Lost Social Group.

We gave a lengthy reply. Unfortunately, you can embargo them till the cows come home, we're still going to lose without help.

Can we have an LP loan perhaps?

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 07:39 PM
Can you trade away XPS during wartime?
If so we can give you 3 LPS for 3 XPS

GhostWriter16
Jan 06, 2011, 07:41 PM
Can you trade away XPS during wartime?
If so we can give you 3 LPS for 3 XPS

We don't have Xps, but we'll do it if you'll allow us to pay after the war is over.

Tell you what, send us 2 each turn for the duration of the war, and we'll send you ALL of our XPs for the first 2 turns of peace we've got (Most likely the war won't even last 5 turns, so this should be good for you.)

MaxaTheGreat
Jan 06, 2011, 07:41 PM
We propose a trade agreement with the young nation.

Infact, we propose trade agreements to...

FoCE
Ormus
Spain
Canada
Erulatuk
France Classic


I think I may have gone too far. :crazyeye:

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 07:43 PM
What's the difference between LP and XP? It's my understanding LP let you take provinces, and XP are experience points that you use to gain levels to increase your stats.

I also edited my turn whatever-this-is claims, just cause.

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 07:50 PM
So are there still giant alliances that split the world in two, which would result in a huge-ass war if someone were to, say, assassinate the heir of Austria-Hungary?
No, its more like 3 alliances.

MaxaTheGreat
Jan 06, 2011, 07:51 PM
LP is used for espionage, attacking, and research into your nuke program.

XP is used for expanding in peacetime.


In-game question about colonies:

Is the Balkans open? :)

What areas of Africa can still be colonized?

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 08:15 PM
No the Balkans are mine, Poland's and Ottoman Empires SoI.

Also @ Dommy;
Good deal.

zxe
Jan 06, 2011, 09:22 PM
Jeddah!

Ormus also offers the assistance of 2300 medical personel for the Olympic Games.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 10:11 PM
we welcome Egypt into the world stage, and offer them a free trade agreement with the Mathalamus Empire.


Also @ Dommy;
Good deal.

why, are you making a deal with Mongolia?

Double A
Jan 06, 2011, 10:23 PM
Okay?

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 10:37 PM
we welcome Egypt into the world stage, and offer them a free trade agreement with the Mathalamus Empire.



why, are you making a deal with Mongolia?

Because your ally is threatening to use nukes.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 10:40 PM
New England isnt an ally because he hasnt signed an alliance offer. and i haven't even offered one.

in any case, i hope you know that you are aiding am state who will use nukes on me if he is on his last legs. it would be better for you to stay out of it. (because he would use nukes anyway and i don't want you being partially responsible)

ZeletDude
Jan 06, 2011, 10:45 PM
Who ever uses nukes will be dealt with our nuclear program.

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 10:49 PM
this is why I am against Nukes. Say LH nukes Mongolia, as a result Mongolia nukes Mathis, as a result Germany nukes Mongolia, as a result a Mongol ally nukes Europe. As soon as 1 nuke is fired, every other nuke is going to go off, and it will bring the world to an end.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 10:51 PM
not really. only truly horrible things will happen. in any case i offered a fair peace treaty to mongolia.

(had to be fair, in any case)

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 10:54 PM
He said if enough nukes were fired to world would end.

Your peace was in no way fair. Had it been a white peace, I would have pushed Mongolia to accept it. But given your arrogance we will not.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 10:57 PM
it was completely fair by my standards. to me, he still got off with a slap on the wrist.

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 11:00 PM
when making peace with an enemy, you have to look through theirs, what are their objectives in the war, what would they consider. If you don't take the enemy into account your objectives can never be achieved through peace.

Mathalamus
Jan 06, 2011, 11:03 PM
i know their objectives. if i offer a white peace to mongolia, then i cannot help Australia. that woudl make me feel bad.

ilduce349
Jan 06, 2011, 11:05 PM
i know their objectives. if i offer a white peace to mongolia, then i cannot help Australia. that woudl make me feel bad.
Then you don't know their objectives. Lets continue this dicussion elsewhere. Tailes doesn't want it clogging up the thread.

Mad Man
Jan 06, 2011, 11:43 PM
My Internet seems to be working (for now) so I guess I can step back in.

What fun!

I probably should develop nukes after I haphazardly expand in Africa.

And about claims only next to your provinces or an accessible sea... it's 210something. I'm fairly sure we have discovered flight.
Just so were clear if you or anyone else for that matter expands into my SOI it's an automatic declaration of war, and for everybody's convenience here's a map with my SOI highlighted in light blue278063. Were also interested in a free trade agreement.:)

We propose a trade agreement with the young nation.

In fact, we propose trade agreements to...

FoCE
Ormus
Spain
Canada
Erulatuk
France Classic

I think I may have gone too far. :crazyeye:

We except:)

Double A
Jan 07, 2011, 01:15 AM
Who ever uses nukes will be dealt with our nuclear program.

:lol:

this is why I am against Nukes. Say LH nukes Mongolia, as a result Mongolia nukes Mathis, as a result Germany nukes Mongolia, as a result a Mongol ally nukes Europe. As soon as 1 nuke is fired, every other nuke is going to go off, and it will bring the world to an end.

No, I win, because I'm not allied to anyone, and I can just invade the survivors.

My Internet seems to be working (for now) so I guess I can step back in.


Just so were clear if you or anyone else for that matter expands into my SOI it's an automatic declaration of war, and for everybody's convenience here's a map with my SOI highlighted in light blue278063. Were also interested in a free trade agreement.:)



We except:)

The only SOIs I care recognize are those completely surrounded by someone's territory, unless it's a giant hole (then they're just asking for it). But it's not like I'm gonna go to west Africa, with the Purple Cross in the way like that.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 07, 2011, 03:35 AM
Get out of Egypt, I already claimed it for this update I mean wtf, first Madagascar, fine I took it, then Ormus fine I tolerated but this is to much If you dont change your position I will declare war on you, and to everyone else "I ask for a bit of tolerance for my intolerance", @Double A my SOI
so dont go there
http://oi52.tinypic.com/2rykh2a.jpg

ilduce349
Jan 07, 2011, 05:43 AM
No, I win, because I'm not allied to anyone, and I can just invade the survivors.
Theres an armageddon counter...

NedimNapoleon
Jan 07, 2011, 05:47 AM
@ilduce do you support me in my war against Egypt

ilduce349
Jan 07, 2011, 05:49 AM
@ilduce do you support me in my war against Egypt
Do you more pressing state issues I will remain neutral in this war. However if it goes on for to long I may start sending LP's to ensure a quicker ending.

GhostWriter16
Jan 07, 2011, 07:26 AM
Also @ Dommy;
Good deal.

Thank you.

Make sure you send it to T-Kangaru


Who ever uses nukes will be dealt with our nuclear program.

Can you make an exception for using nukes in retaliation for having nukes used against you? That would make it less likely for the other shot to be fired.

BTW, I wouldn't use a nuke if I was on my last legs, only if I was nuked first.

Theres an armageddon counter...

We don't know it will mean world destruction though, we really don't know what will happen. We should be concerned, but not too much so.

GhostWriter16
Jan 07, 2011, 10:44 AM
Treaty of Karakorum

1. Math pays us 1LP per turn for the duration of the war.

2. Math does not help our enemies for the duration of the war.

3. Mathalamus takes responsibility for the war.

Mathalamus agreed privately to sign this.

Please confirm it here.

Mad Man
Jan 07, 2011, 10:48 AM
Don't do it Math or I'll declare war on you, and you wouldn't like that!

GhostWriter16
Jan 07, 2011, 10:51 AM
Don't do it Math or I'll declare war on you, and you wouldn't like that!

He already agreed to it. Also, why would you declare war on him for accepting a treaty?

If he doesn't take it, I DOW him, and since LH is going to nuke me for that, this would lead to me nuking Math.

Stay in your own business Classic France. I'm not kidding.

And next nation who isn't involved that makes a threat like this is getting nuked. I'm not kidding. Leave us alone!

Besides, I doubt you even know how we came to this conclusion...

Also, if Math accepts the treaty and Classic France DOWs them, we will declare war on Classic France.

Mathalamus
Jan 07, 2011, 10:54 AM
Mathalamus news

the, uh, people were, uh, displeased to hear of the peace treaty dictated by the mongolians, the most insane of nations. while they accepted that peace had to happen, they do not agree with the treaty of whatever their pathetic city was.

the Emperor has abdicated the Throne as the first and last Emperor of the Empire. later, the state brodcasted that he was Executed (a video is avaible) on the charges of treason, and failing to stand up for the people, as well as allowing another state to dictate terms.

political reforms

with the Emperor Dead, the State has Reformed into the Mathalamus Republic, a democracy with an elected President. the Presidents real name is kept private out of security concerns.

the President has stated that the state still hates Mongolia and will not allow those band of barbarians speak with the civilized, proud people of the Mathalamus Republic.

(the treaty is still in effect)

GhostWriter16
Jan 07, 2011, 10:56 AM
I'm sick of this. I'm destroying you Math. No peace. Since you keep changing everything to get yourself out of the situation, and I don't trust you. Prepare for annihilation. No peace.

Mathalamus
Jan 07, 2011, 10:57 AM
I'm sick of this. I'm destroying you Math. No peace. Since you keep changing everything to get yourself out of the situation, and I don't trust you. Prepare for annihilation. No peace.

I spifically stated that the goddamn treaty is still in effect! how DARE you!

GhostWriter16
Jan 07, 2011, 11:01 AM
Nevermind. Since you kept it in effect, I will not declare war. When I read the post it implied it wasn't in effect.

I will however, hold you to it. If I don't get the LP every single turn until the war is over, you die.

And if French Classic DOWs you over it, I'll nuke them.

ZeletDude
Jan 07, 2011, 11:09 AM
If you nuke France I nuke you. We have an alliance.

GhostWriter16
Jan 07, 2011, 11:11 AM
If you nuke France I nuke you. We have an alliance.

Well, they'd better not DOW over Mathalamus signing a treaty with us.

We stayed out of Europe's business, if you'll remember, we ask you force your allies to do the same for Asia.

Mad Man
Jan 07, 2011, 11:28 AM
Since when has Madagascar moved it's geographical location from Africa to Asia? You also seem to forget that I have nukes too.

GhostWriter16
Jan 07, 2011, 11:38 AM
Since when has Madagascar moved it's geographical location from Africa to Asia? You also seem to forget that I have nukes too.

Our original grounds for war was they were helping the Aussies invade Asia.

So, you're going to DOW them for making peace with us? Do your worst...

Mathalamus
Jan 07, 2011, 11:39 AM
for the record, the Mathalamus Republic will take no part should war between France and Mongolia break out.

Lighthearter
Jan 07, 2011, 11:40 AM
Please, join the GDI social group and put it to a vote of the Security Council. We can resolve this without violence!

-L

Mad Man
Jan 07, 2011, 11:46 AM
for the record, the Mathalamus Republic will take no part should war between France and Mongolia break out.

How about we just annex your country for your own protection, you'd be administered as an autonomous part of France Classic, you wouldn't have the authority to make declarations of war but you'll be under the protection of France.

Mathalamus
Jan 07, 2011, 11:49 AM
How about we just annex your country for your own protection, you'd be administered as an autonomous part of France Classic, you wouldn't have the authority to make declarations of war but you'll be under the protection of France.

you know, that's actually a nice deal. just know that we value self rule. the President Accepts.

oh and the treaty with Mongolia is still in effect

GhostWriter16
Jan 07, 2011, 11:57 AM
How about we just annex your country for your own protection, you'd be administered as an autonomous part of France Classic, you wouldn't have the authority to make declarations of war but you'll be under the protection of France.

This is a good idea actually, and he's still under the treaty so that won't help you stop it either...

Mad Man
Jan 07, 2011, 12:01 PM
No but I just bumped your influence out of Africa, and since he's now part of France they can break there deal with you anytime they want.

Mathalamus
Jan 07, 2011, 12:05 PM
yeah and in doing so i drag France into a war they don't want. thus making me feel guilty. heck its only like 1 LP per turn...

Mad Man
Jan 07, 2011, 12:13 PM
yeah and in doing so i drag France into a war they don't want. thus making me feel guilty. heck its only like 1 LP per turn...

No I don't mind;)

GhostWriter16
Jan 07, 2011, 12:21 PM
No but I just bumped your influence out of Africa, and since he's now part of France they can break there deal with you anytime they want.

If they did, we'd DOW them, heck with the consequences.

Luckily, Math had enough honor not too...

Mathalamus
Jan 07, 2011, 12:26 PM
* the president was heard laughing at Mongolia.... something about the Republic having more honor than the entire Mongolian populace...*

gee, thanks abaddon.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 07, 2011, 12:36 PM
what do you mean

Abaddon
Jan 07, 2011, 12:42 PM
Math and Lighthearter have those fussy badges.. as do a few others.. I hate them with a passion. I associate posters with their avatars more than their username... those button's all look the same to me.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 07, 2011, 12:45 PM
You have an emo chick with a gas mask, you got a point

Lighthearter
Jan 07, 2011, 12:47 PM
It's ciV nation icons! AND my Russian one has a real similarity to the Federation's symbol in my books:p

EDIT: Nedim has a point.

Anyway, I am pleased to announce that Gotterdammerung was released earlier today, and has already shot up in the Box Office. It is not expected to surpass The Last Prophecy, but it is being exported already to a select few nations. Norman Wilcox has reportedly begun working on the script for Ragnarok. No confirmation yet as to whether he will tackle the tie-in trilogy set on an alternate Earth after he concludes with The Last Prophecy Trilogy.

Oh and DC you can either start negotiating now or I'll wipe you out. I've pledged this many times in the past but these jerks in the international community don't seem to like that plan.

-L

Abaddon
Jan 07, 2011, 12:47 PM
I would commit significant crimes in order to date her...

Abaddon
Jan 07, 2011, 12:48 PM
It's ciV nation icons!

Exactly. About 1000 newbs in the ciV forum have the exact same avatar! Its not even "polished"

Mad Man
Jan 07, 2011, 12:53 PM
I would commit significant crimes in order to date her...

You and me both:king:

Duke Blackstone
Jan 07, 2011, 01:28 PM
Bro and Brosafina. Chill. Its a forum. Everybody just love everybody. Abaddon stop antagonizing, and Dommy, please dont be so easily offended.

@Abaddon's Icon Hate. Yea, know what you mean. I like these old Civ 2 ones though. Kinda retro. The pic the santa hat was cuter btw.

Edited to be more direct.

Duke Blackstone
Jan 07, 2011, 01:48 PM
Much thanks :)

Birdjaguar
Jan 07, 2011, 02:03 PM
Time to cool it guys. I will go back and take a look to see the details, but please stop this public bickering.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 07, 2011, 02:23 PM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRu8W6UTRgoYTqOlkOY4axErOSr-HHinOVh6rfOuVjbhGNzPy7q

2108 Olympic Games Results!
Archery - Mongolia
Athletics - FoCE
Badminton - Siberia
Cycling - Denmark
Fencing - New England
Gymnastics - Japan
Handball - FoCE
Judo - Brazil
Modern Pentathlon - The Caribbean Sun
Sailing - Spain
Shooting - The Caliphate
Swimming - Ormus
Synchronized Swimming - Pacific Federation
Table Tennis - Praetoria
Tennis - Japan
Volleyball - Carthage
Weightlifting - Ottoman Empire
Wrestling - The Caliphate/

Anthem of the Jeddah 2108 Olympic Games

e2Ma4BvMUwU

Mathalamus
Jan 07, 2011, 03:02 PM
Mathalamus news

News of the vassalage into France classic was well recived, with one citizen saying that while the Mathalamus Republic has potential to be a strong world power, the present state required some serious protection from a larger nation.

in other news, the President has sent a request to Paris asking for additional training and modernization of the army, particularly in defensive tactics and equipment. if they can spare a couple dozen ships to get the navy started, we can buy those as well.

the President is Awarded the title Mathalamus II, for recognizing that the Republic cannot survive withotu outside help.

Birdjaguar
Jan 07, 2011, 03:06 PM
18 posts deleted for needless and childish bickering. If it continues, I will lock the thread.

ZeletDude
Jan 07, 2011, 03:51 PM
Our handball and athletics (which sport is this .-.) teams return home to joyous receptions by the people.

ZeletDude
Jan 07, 2011, 04:34 PM
http://flagspot.net/images/d/de.gifCensus of the Federation of Central Europe: 2108
GDP(Nominal): $5.05 Trillion
GDP Per Capita(Nominal): $37,079
Population: 148.6 Million
Population Density: 400 Sq/Mile
Ethnic Groups: 80% German, 10% Kenyan, 5% Czech, 1% Slovak, 2% Bosniak, 1% Slovene, 1% Other
Largest Cities:
1. Berlin(3.4 Million); 2. Nairobi(3.1 Million); 3. Hamburg(1.7 Million); 4. Vienna(1.6 Million); 5. Munich(1.3 Million)


Previous Census:

http://flagspot.net/images/d/de.gifCensus of the Federation of Central Europe: 2106
GDP(Nominal): $4.84 Trillion
GDP Per Capita(Nominal): $ 34,084
Population: 142 Million
Population Density: 364/Sq Mile
Ethnic Groups: 80% German, 10% Kenyan, 6% Czech, 2% Slovak, 1% Turkish, 1% Other
Largest Cities:
1. Berlin(3.4 Million); 2. Nairobi(3.1 Million); 3. Hamburg(1.7 Million); 4. Vienna(1.6 Million); 5. Munich(1.3 Million)

NedimNapoleon
Jan 07, 2011, 04:36 PM
To The FoCE
The Caliph wishes to make a visit to the Bosniak community in the FoCE is he allowed

ZeletDude
Jan 07, 2011, 04:42 PM
That would be great.

Also to all:

We hereby claim Angola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola)
for our nation, any intrusions into this area will be considered war. (other then Abaddon gotta talk to him)

Double A
Jan 07, 2011, 05:40 PM
They're crazy from not playing enough Total War games!

Abaddon
Jan 07, 2011, 05:50 PM
<snip>

@ Everyone.. any XP spare? I have LP spare to trade...

civplayah
Jan 07, 2011, 05:51 PM
Synchronized Swimming - Pacific Federation


Great!

CivGeneral
Jan 07, 2011, 07:00 PM
I would have to say, the NCR would gladly be in the next Olympic games. We are kind of disappointed in ourselves for not showing up for the first games.

Gruekiller
Jan 07, 2011, 07:09 PM
Klein Venedig would also like to participate in the next games, and regrets that its forms seem to have been lost in the mail.

ZeletDude
Jan 07, 2011, 10:04 PM
After a large rebirth of German nationalism the Federation of Central Europe's government asked the people to vote whether they wished to remain a Federation or reform into a Constitutional Monarchy as seen by the German Empire 200 years ago. The vote passed with a large majority of 84% voting to reform. The FoCE hereby is defunct and replaced with the...

The 4th German Reich (Empire)

Imperial Flag:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Flag_of_the_German_Empire.svg/500px-Flag_of_the_German_Empire.svg.png

Imperial Seal:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Imperial_Coat_of_arms_of_Germany_%281889%E2%80%931 918%29.svg/500px-Imperial_Coat_of_arms_of_Germany_%281889%E2%80%931 918%29.svg.png

Imperial Anthem
8bdz6tEf1-A

The current Prime Minister is replaced as Chancellor of the Reichstag, and The old Kaiser's Great Great Great Grandson Friedrick is crowned as Kaiser Friedrick V.
All alliances will remain in place. (I'll edit my first nations info.)

We ask that all other nations recognize this as the legitimate successor government of the FoCE

Mathalamus
Jan 07, 2011, 10:09 PM
<snip>

@ Everyone.. any XP spare? I have LP spare to trade...

i have 5 spare XPs.

we recognize the German Empire, and stated that it was only a matter of time before that happened.

ZeletDude
Jan 07, 2011, 10:19 PM
Of course it was going to happen.. The German People (Cough me cough) love the German Empire and want it back :D.

Anyway Tailles whats your rule regarding all the inactive nations. It seems as though a few have went away. Arakhor to name one. (He hasn't been on since Dec. 24)

DroopyTofu
Jan 07, 2011, 10:31 PM
@Abbadon, you never answered me in the user group about letting me claim in North East Africa. Would you mind if I went inward to your current border, and possibly went Sout of your current westernmost border?

CELTICEMPIRE
Jan 07, 2011, 11:10 PM
Denmark loves Nationalism!

ZeletDude
Jan 07, 2011, 11:16 PM
Be aware do not make Germany too proud bad things happens when that occurs.
http://satwcomic.com/art/evil-flag.jpg

Sonereal
Jan 07, 2011, 11:19 PM
We're glad that we can say "Germany" and not be chastised now. In any case, we're glad that the Fourth Reich didn't fall into the cliche of Fascism.

Mathalamus
Jan 08, 2011, 12:28 AM
Mathalamus news

religious scholars has poured through the Holy book fo Mathalia, and found hints that there is one city which is supposed to be the Capital of the Empire. Capturing this city is said to user into a golden age in which will last a thousand years. there are only two hints:

1. the City is supposed to have a long rich culture extending at least 1000 years.
2. the City must be in a relatively heavily defended location. (distance, bottlenecks, certain geography, etc)

the President will investigate into the location and thus, the name of this city.

taillesskangaru
Jan 08, 2011, 02:55 AM
Anyway Tailles whats your rule regarding all the inactive nations. It seems as though a few have went away. Arakhor to name one. (He hasn't been on since Dec. 24)

I'm content to keep them around for a while, but if they miss more than three updates I may delete them.

west india man
Jan 08, 2011, 08:43 AM
Brasil's predictable Judo result leads to the team coming back to a joyous welcome! :D

Thorvald of Lym
Jan 08, 2011, 09:23 AM
Poland congratulates the German Empire on its smooth and peaceful transition, and reaffirms our commitments from the Federation prior.

ilduce349
Jan 08, 2011, 10:53 AM
How about we just annex your country for your own protection
That means vassalization... Something you seemed to be so against a while ago.

Mine wasn't close to being vassalization as you got to keep your country. This means France now has full control over Mathali politics. That is full on vassalization.

Mathalamus
Jan 08, 2011, 11:01 AM
frankly Japan, that was for my own health. if i had to deal with Mongolia for one more minute, i wudl have had a heart attack. in anty case, i can break the vassalage and suffer no consequences.

Gruekiller
Jan 08, 2011, 11:08 AM
Matthias Mark, leader of the Klein Venedig Monarchist party, congratulates the new Kaiser of Germany, expressing his wishes that his own nation will follow Germany's example. The pretender to the throne of Klein Venedig, known as Otto, also sends good wishes to the Kaiser. The people of Klein Venedig, especially the monarchists, are now clamoring with excitement. The hardball democrats start to feel a bit nervous, fearing that Klein Venedig may soon also become a monarchy.

CELTICEMPIRE
Jan 08, 2011, 11:26 AM
Gustav In Hospital after assassination plot
while in Helsinki a sniper shot at Gustav, severely wounding him, it is not sure if he'll be OK, he is not expected to live much longer, but the people believe that he will use his Divine powers to heal himself. The plot has no signs of coming from outside the DFR.

Mathalamus
Jan 08, 2011, 11:29 AM
so much for every danish citizen wanting you to be the leader.

CELTICEMPIRE
Jan 08, 2011, 11:39 AM
so much for every danish citizen wanting you to be the leader.

dont worry, he isnt dead yet, and he has a son

Mathalamus
Jan 08, 2011, 11:41 AM
good, that will avoid pretty much all the Stability issues with the leader being dead.

(note, i wanted to try being fascist, but i doubt many people will be too pleased.)

CELTICEMPIRE
Jan 08, 2011, 11:49 AM
Danish Scientists are advanced in the field of organ replacement, they'll give him artificial organs that will last him a few years, he will probably die, but you never know, oh, and his son is only 9, Gustav is 43. And has been in power since 2095.

NedimNapoleon
Jan 08, 2011, 11:52 AM
The Caliphate:
The Caliph Nedim Ibn Mehmed has invited the rock band Gorillaz to make a tour of the Caliphate, the first concert will be in Kabul and it will move to Djibouti
LoQYw49saqc

ZeletDude
Jan 08, 2011, 01:02 PM
We thank the world nations for recognizing our new government. :)

Also Denmark why you be intruding into the Balkans it is no place for you. You are intruding upon Poland's SoI..

zxe
Jan 08, 2011, 01:19 PM
The Ormus Oracle
The Official Newspaper of the Kingdom of Ormus

Duqm - The quickly expanding nation of Ormus has offered to aid our allies in the Caliphate. Outfitting more than 10 million young, energetic citizens, Ormus has offered to settle lands in the name of the Caliphate. These young adventurers were selected on the basis of their unwavering support for their religion, and their success during para-military training. Long live our glorious Muslim brotherhood! Allāhu Akbar! الله أكبر

See photos of this momentus event below:

ZeletDude
Jan 08, 2011, 01:24 PM
All European nations please check the Union of Europe social group important stuff!
Thanks

NedimNapoleon
Jan 08, 2011, 01:24 PM
Tekbir تَكْبِير

Joecoolyo
Jan 08, 2011, 01:33 PM
After a large rebirth of German nationalism the Federation of Central Europe's government asked the people to vote whether they wished to remain a Federation or reform into a Constitutional Monarchy as seen by the German Empire 200 years ago. The vote passed with a large majority of 84% voting to reform. The FoCE hereby is defunct and replaced with the...

The 4th German Reich (Empire)

Imperial Flag:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Flag_of_the_German_Empire.svg/500px-Flag_of_the_German_Empire.svg.png

Imperial Seal:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Imperial_Coat_of_arms_of_Germany_%281889%E2%80%931 918%29.svg/500px-Imperial_Coat_of_arms_of_Germany_%281889%E2%80%931 918%29.svg.png

Imperial Anthem
8bdz6tEf1-A

The current Prime Minister is replaced as Chancellor of the Reichstag, and The old Kaiser's Great Great Great Grandson Friedrick is crowned as Kaiser Friedrick V.
All alliances will remain in place. (I'll edit my first nations info.)

We ask that all other nations recognize this as the legitimate successor government of the FoCE

The Horde congratulates you on your advance to empire, something few countries are worthy of.

And in light of this new development, the Horde would like to extend it's hand in favor to a new alliance between us. We should call it, "The Alliance of Two Empires". :)

How does this sound Kaiser? Not many get this opportunity, you know.

ZeletDude
Jan 08, 2011, 01:33 PM
Oh we will gladly accept this.

Joecoolyo
Jan 08, 2011, 01:36 PM
"The Alliance of Two Empires" is pronounced then.

Congratulations Kaiser, only good can come of this! :beer:

Mathalamus
Jan 08, 2011, 01:44 PM
in a surprising move, the Mathalamus Emprie decided not to condemn the Kaiser for being allied with the horde. President Mathalamus stated that the horde has apparently dropped its war mentality.

ilduce349
Jan 08, 2011, 01:53 PM
in a surprising move, the Mathalamus Emprie decided not to condemn the Kaiser for being allied with the horde. President Mathalamus stated that the horde has apparently dropped its war mentality.
You'd be surprised.

Thorvald of Lym
Jan 08, 2011, 02:25 PM
Poland offers the Horde an exchange of ambassadors and a pledge of non-aggression.

Joecoolyo
Jan 08, 2011, 03:36 PM
We will accept your ambassadors, but will reject your call for non-aggression.

The Horde does not pledge non-aggression to anyone, it's too large a promise (and a false one at that) to keep.

Mathalamus
Jan 08, 2011, 03:41 PM
We will accept your ambassadors, but will reject your call for non-aggression.

The Horde does not pledge non-aggression to anyone, it's too large a promise (and a false one at that) to keep.

now that's the horde that i remember.

Farsight
Jan 08, 2011, 05:36 PM
The Ottoman Empire hereby blockades the Bosphorus: All Danish ships are hereby denied access in and out of the Black Sea. In addition, the Grand Marshal has ordered the conquest of the rest of Bulgaria in order to secure our hold in the Balkans.

On a lighter note, the Ottoman government has annexed Armenia today. As a part of the agreement of annexation, the Ottoman Government has officially recognised the Armenian Genocide. "The attempted genocide of the Armenians by our ancestors was a black stain in our people's history," Grand Vizier Kaya said in a press conference earlier this afternoon. "I hope that the peaceful intergration of Armenia into the Ottoman Empire will herald a new era of peace between the Turks and Armenians."

Mathalamus
Jan 08, 2011, 05:51 PM
(FYI, im dropping the Mathalamus title, it sounds stupid when is ay President Mathalamus or something)

President Harold Wood wonders if a state Visit to Constantinople is possible.

Thorvald of Lym
Jan 08, 2011, 06:00 PM
Oh dear God...

In other news, the Polish government applauds the humility of the Ottomans and their commitment to advancing the cause of human rights.

Mad Man
Jan 08, 2011, 06:24 PM
(note, i wanted to try being fascist, but i doubt many people will be too pleased.)

That's not going to happen while your still part of France.

Sonereal
Jan 08, 2011, 06:31 PM
"Good morning, Cuba! Juanito here to bring you the latest, hottest news straight off the state press. Emperor Castro today has ratified a bill that was pushed through by the Liberal Party that will grant citizenship to all people currently in the Caribbean Sea. The Citizenship Bill has also set up guidelines in assimilating future annexed people.

In other news, the Fourth Reich! Don't be afraid, people. This Reich is family friendly and most importantly, untermensch friendly. :lol:"

Omega124
Jan 08, 2011, 08:34 PM
Australia is now considering pure isolationism. I offer Mongolia a White Peace. I cancel all current DPs, trade agreements, etc, etc. We shall no longer interfere in politics if left alone.

Mathalamus
Jan 09, 2011, 05:24 AM
Australia, isolationism doesn't work. trust me.

and, good luck getting a white peace now, Mongolia will just destroy you when he realizes that no one can interfere.

taillesskangaru
Jan 09, 2011, 07:17 AM
Sorry, update will be delayed a bit.

Sonereal
Jan 09, 2011, 08:18 AM
Australia is now considering pure isolationism. I offer Mongolia a White Peace. I cancel all current DPs, trade agreements, etc, etc. We shall no longer interfere in politics if left alone.

Australia, isolationism doesn't work. trust me.


It's working for us now.

Mainly because we're a nuclear power.

Dem Taqat
Jan 09, 2011, 09:03 AM
Unless you cancelled all your deals whilst I wasn't looking, Cuba is far from Isolated. I'm most worried about cancelling of australian trade agreements, Self sufficiancy can be difficult.

DT
Carthaginian :)

Sonereal
Jan 09, 2011, 09:10 AM
Unless you cancelled all your deals whilst I wasn't looking, Cuba is far from Isolated. I'm most worried about cancelling of australian trade agreements, Self sufficiancy can be difficult.

DT
Carthaginian :)

The only DPs I have signed are with nations I don't have to worry about going to war with their neighbors anytime soon. For the most part, I've just been spending the pass few years in Havana building nuclear weapon after nuclear weapon.

Thorvald of Lym
Jan 09, 2011, 09:51 AM
If only Kennedy was still around... :lol:

Speaking of Cuba et al., we were doing some housekeeping and found a letter to which we never received a response (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=10029081#post10029081).

Sonereal
Jan 09, 2011, 10:08 AM
If only Kennedy was still around... :lol:

Speaking of Cuba et al., we were doing some housekeeping and found a letter to which we never received a response (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=10029081#post10029081).

We apologize. Given how quickly pages went by before the Social Groups started popping up, we missed that post!

We, of course, accept. :)

NedimNapoleon
Jan 09, 2011, 10:12 AM
To The Caribbean Sun
We would wish to sign a trade agreement with, we need some crops to be imported into the Caliphate, such as Bananas, Tobacco, Pineapples and Coffee and we will export oil for a prime price