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GhostWriter16
Dec 20, 2010, 08:55 PM
@mongolia: no apology is necessary. you were, after all, suspicious of my motives. its my fault for not.. say.. making Russia an NPC when i needed some time.

Very well, we hope good relations can be made. We request, in the name of this, free trade and assistance in finding the traitor of the AU.

Sonereal
Dec 20, 2010, 08:58 PM
Yes. The reward may take any (Reasonable) form, and will be decided by the AU.

That does me no good given that the AU has lost most of its membership with half the remainder very suspicious of the other half.

ilduce349
Dec 20, 2010, 09:00 PM
What is the evidence clearing Duke? And for curiosity, what proves me innocent either?
Past experiences in other IOT's and his actions in this one show honor. I have never seen him betray anyone in 3 different IOT's (@tailes, sorry to use past IOT's as an example, but I am pissed right now and I want to catch the suspect. The only evidence we have is their past actions). Honestly, on this site he is the person I trust the most, and so if he said didn't do it, I believe him.


The jury will be the legislation of Great Japan.

Civ P is a middle of the road guy, he MIGHT have done it, but innocent until proven guilty says he didn't. That said, we need to come up with a method of trial. Is the Asia group closed now to non-members? Shoot me a PM.
I doubt Civ P did it. I have been helping him fund rebels in Australia and he supported the killing of Australia but asked that we didn't declare war and kept funding rebels until he did. I agreed to that. I don't know why CivP would suddenly go back on us. However given Zelets hint, he is the prime suspect.

Maxithegreat is a STRONG suspect, the only thing clearing him is he's new and probably wouldn't know how to use the invisible feature. But you never know. And he probably has weak ties with the group.
Maxithegreat is the biggest and yet smallest suspect. He's new to the site so we know less about him then any other player. On the other hand everyone one of his posts makes him seem innocent and weak.

The last suspect, Nedim. He was the only one in the group that being part of Asia was more of a liability then an asset. Civp and I agreed to go against Australia. I promised to declare war on anyone who entered Maxi's SOI.

I have respect (something that is actually hard to get from me) from every member of the union besides Farsight. So whoever it is my opinion of them just hit rock bottom.

I will reward my XP's and LP's for the next 6 turns I find myself in peace to the person who first PM's me evidence of who the culprit was. Mongolia will also give a separate award.

Mathalamus
Dec 20, 2010, 09:02 PM
the Intrem Minister will agree to a free trade agreement, but wont help you find the traitor. because we are *kinda* busty restructuring the Government to a democratic one, and trying to finish the Nuclear Program for deterrence purposes.

not to mention to reorganization of the military, privation, etc.

Sonereal
Dec 20, 2010, 09:05 PM
I don't think Mongolia would give me a reward. :(

GhostWriter16
Dec 20, 2010, 09:06 PM
Past experiences in other IOT's and his actions in this one show honor. I have never seen him betray anyone in 3 different IOT's (@tailes, sorry to use past IOT's as an example, but I am pissed right now and I want to catch the suspect. The only evidence we have is their past actions). Honestly, on this site he is the person I trust the most, and so if he said didn't do it, I believe him.

The jury will be the legislation of Great Japan.

@Ilduce- OOC: That is true, though I've been just as trustworthy as Duke. I'm not sure if you are allowed to use it publicly or not though, however: IC: He DID leave. I'm not saying he did it, he's usually trustworthy, but we need to do a token investigation, just in case.

As for your jury, for better or worse, they cannot convict a foreign leader of a crime. The AU needs to convict him.

I doubt Civ P did it. I have been helping him fund rebels in Australia and he supported the killing of Australia but asked that we didn't declare war and kept funding rebels until he did. I agreed to that. I don't know why CivP would suddenly go back on us. However given Zelets hint, he is the prime suspect.

What was Zelet's hint? I personally think he's innocent, but I'm not sure. The only person I'm sure didn't do it is you. And only because you doing it would increase the odds of you getting killed (The same could be said for me, thus I have proved my innocence.)

Maxithegreat is the biggest and yet smallest suspect. He's new to the site so we know less about him then any other player. On the other hand everyone one of his posts makes him seem innocent and weak.

He has bad relations with Asia, which is points against him, but being an inexperienced leader, he might not yet know the art of treachery or sneaking around (Invisible mode for OOC.) So I think he's suspicious, but probably not guilty.

The last suspect, Nedim. He was the only one in the group that being part of Asia was more of a liability then an asset. Civp and I agreed to go against Australia. I promised to declare war on anyone who entered Maxi's SOI.

Nedim is supporting Lighthearter against Darth Caesar, so he may have done it to spite me.

@Sonereal- Why not?

Sonereal
Dec 20, 2010, 09:07 PM
@Sonereal- Why not?

IC: Mongolia hates me.

OCC: :p

GhostWriter16
Dec 20, 2010, 09:08 PM
IC: Mongolia hates me.

Actually, you hate us, we don't hate you. But tensions have been chilling for some time. Let's reopen trade shall we?

Also, name your price;)

ilduce349
Dec 20, 2010, 09:10 PM
IC: He DID leave. I'm not saying he did it, he's usually trustworthy, but we need to do a token investigation, just in case.

As for your jury, for better or worse, they cannot convict a foreign leader of a crime. The AU needs to convict him.
I booted him from the group when I declared war. If he wants (which I doubt) he is free to rejoin.

What was Zelet's hint? I personally think he's innocent, but I'm not sure. The only person I'm sure didn't do it is you. And only because you doing it would increase the odds of you getting killed (The same could be said for me, thus I have proved my innocence.)
Zelets hint was the nation bordered the pacific. Which narrows it down to Preatoria, Japan, Pacific, Mongolia and Siberia.

As for your jury, for better or worse, they cannot convict a foreign leader of a crime. The AU needs to convict him.
His punishment will be my invasion of his country.

Nedim is supporting Lighthearter against Darth Caesar, so he may have done it to spite me.
But Light genocided the Muslims...

DroopyTofu
Dec 20, 2010, 09:10 PM
OOC: You guys do realize that the group is public and that anyone can read your discussions, right?

IC: The Spanish Intelligence Agency has looked into the issue and discovered that Spain recieved a copy of the Death Wish List from Japan. Apperently, there was a mistake on the postage and instead of only sending the list to Asian nations, it was sent to every world leader.

Spain would like to recieve it's reward from Japan now.

Sonereal
Dec 20, 2010, 09:10 PM
Actually, you hate us, we don't hate you. But tensions have been chilling for some time. Let's reopen trade shall we?

We should.

Also, name your price;)

I really rather not. Getting involved in Asian politics left a very bad taste in my mouth given A.) The ill-fated war against the Horde and B.) The Siberia Incident.

ilduce349
Dec 20, 2010, 09:14 PM
OOC: You guys do realize that the group is public and that anyone can read your discussions, right?
Ah ****. I just realized that I forgot to tick that box when creating this group. Japan gives you my claims for the next 6 turns.

Sonereal
Dec 20, 2010, 09:14 PM
OOC: You guys do realize that the group is public and that anyone can read your discussions, right?


If anything, whoever's the admin of that group should be charged with high treason given how every. Single. Post. Was. Public.

Everything. From the planned carve up Australia (and funding the rebels) to the idea of Mongolia backstabbing Russia after singing an alliance. The "spies", were the people who told me the group was public in the first place would be a few of the members who joined and told me how before they joined, they noticed they could read everything.

I almost thought that was part of the plan and then you started acting surprised as hell when people ALWAYS KNEW WHAT YOU GUYS WERE UP TO.

OOC: Can you even gift XP?

CivGeneral
Dec 20, 2010, 09:22 PM
Meanwhile, in the Mojave Desert

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8778/iot6fonvlucy.png

The situation in the US Eastcoast has gained attention to the NCR. Officals hope that the conflict does not spill over into Middle America, The NCR, and Canada. If it ever comes to that situation. The Republic shall aid her allies in the even both friends have been attacked by the two nations in the East.

ilduce349
Dec 20, 2010, 09:24 PM
I almost thought that was part of the plan and then you started acting surprised as hell when people ALWAYS KNEW WHAT YOU GUYS WERE UP TO.
the first time it happened, I checked the group settings and realized it was public. I am really confused I have change the group settings 3 times in the last week to tick that stupid box that said most be in group to view content. I am really confused as to how it keeps getting unticked, as I doubt my brother/sister would just log on to piss me off, considering I doubt they even know I play IOT, let alone control a social group for it. I also doubt it was a mod, as what would they gain from that...

anyway, whatever. For the third time this week, the spies have been caught and condemned to slavery for life.

Duke Blackstone
Dec 20, 2010, 09:25 PM
Haha wow... I am glad I never posted, i didnt know a group could be public... Well, gentlemen, let the past lie. I propose that, in the fallout of the diplomatic embarrassment which occurred today, the AU should be dissolved and replaced (and a new social group formed).

Duke Blackstone,
Thankful that its Over

Sonereal
Dec 20, 2010, 09:25 PM
the first time it happened, I checked the group settings and realized it was public. I am really confused I have change the group settings 3 times in the last week to tick that stupid box that said most be in group to view content. I am really confused as to how it keeps getting unticked, as I doubt my brother/sister would just log on to piss me off, considering I doubt they even know I play IOT, let alone control a social group for it. I also doubt it was a mod, as what would they gain from that...

anyway, whatever. For the third time this week, the spies have been caught and condemned to slavery for life.

And war was averted!

Party in Havana!

Wait a minute....

ilduce349
Dec 20, 2010, 09:42 PM
And war was averted!

Party in Havana!

Wait a minute....
lol.

I just created the Asian Defense Union.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=364
Evert nation with land in Asia has been invited.


Japan appologizes to any nation she offended during the leaking incident that happened in AU

Mad Man
Dec 20, 2010, 10:02 PM
I claim Angola, Benin, and Togo

Angola's fine but if you enter Benin, Togo, or any where else in French West Africa then it's an automatic declaration of war.:mad:

ZeletDude
Dec 20, 2010, 10:18 PM
The Federation would like to apologize for publicly showing your 'Death List', we hope to build stronger relations with Asia.

ilduce349
Dec 20, 2010, 10:26 PM
I hope to build stronger relations with Europe.
I accept your appology and admit that it had to be done. (as without it, Mazamaki wouldn't have resigned)

Japanese news: Mazamaki-san has resigned from office due to the incident involving the leaking from the Asian Union.
Noboru Oke has taken office.

taillesskangaru
Dec 20, 2010, 10:44 PM
What is official GM policy at this? I'd rather not get myself into trouble if Mathalamus is indeed considered a new nation. However, IMO since its the same game he should be treated as a successor state.

I'll wait for T-Kangaru to rule before I continue further. Am I allowed to call him a successor state of Russia?

No. A nation started by a player who rejoins does not share any links with his former nation unless the player himself says so.

nobody even noticed my video :( :sad: [pissed]

Protip: don't use Requiem for a Dream. It's overused, and IMO it doesn't fit the feel and purpose of the video. You want marching or rousing music, music that makes you want to get up and kill your enemies, or fight for the glory of your empire. Requiem for a Dream is about depressed junkies in a bleak, unforgiving world.

Stuff

Stuff

All this should be in PMs or in your Social Groups. Warned. I'm not handing out suspensions only because I pity you failing to realize your group was public. Don't do it again.

Update coming soon.

taillesskangaru
Dec 21, 2010, 12:41 AM
Update 4

AD 2105

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/race-history-great-chain-of-being-1868.jpg

Racist ideologies prevail in the world's fascist states, notably Mongolia,
Japan and Denmark. Their "neo-scientific racism" and racial discrimination is
denounced by many of the world's democracies, particularly by Eralatuk, Carthage
and Australia, and condemned as incompetible with Islam by the Caliphate.


http://stumptowngirl.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/rendition460x276.jpg

With New England distracted by war to its south, Soviet Canada attempted
to seize Newfoundland, but was ultimately beaten back.



http://i.imgur.com/Xdjn9.png

http://i.imgur.com/Vpnpw.png

Espionage :scan:

Against Australia
Pacific Federation failed to fund rebels in the Northern Territories
Pacific Federation funded rebels in Western Australia, but the rebellion was quelled.

Against Canada
Mongolia failed to fund rebels in British Columbia
Mongolia conducted counter-espionage. Canada loses its ability to conduct spy missions this turn.

All other actions last turn failed but were not discovered.

Battle Results :ar15:

(Note: I'll list battles like this: province - max attacker roll, max defender roll, result)

Pirate War of Aggression
USFCNP (Pirates) - New England

Pirate offensives
Indiana - 37, 82 DEFEAT
Pennsylvania - 8, 19 DEFEAT
Delaware - 76, 96 DEFEAT
New Jersey - 100, 68 VICTORY

New English offensives
Maryland - 88, 46 VICTORY
West Virginia - 65, 83 DEFEAT

Canadian Reconquest of Newfoundland
Canada - New England

Canadian offensive
Newfoundland - 84, 98 DEFEAT

GM Comment:

It is now Turn 5 (AD 2105)

As usual, if I made a mistake tell me where and I'll look at it.

Mad Man and ilduce are suspended for this turn for the extra post in the Claims Thread.

e350tb
Dec 21, 2010, 12:57 AM
@ New England - Consider that a warning. Withdraw from all Canadian land immediately, or suffer the consequences. (I've heard New York is lovely this time of year...)

SonicTH
Dec 21, 2010, 12:58 AM
Praetoria is withdrawing from the Asian Union. We have no issue with imperialism, however ignorance, hatred, racism, and subhuman treatment have no place in our politics or alliances.

We congratulate the Praetorians for casting off a club of bullies and wish them luck finding better, more ethical allies elsewhere.

Praetoria are traitors to the Asian Union, and so are unlikely to live much longer. I recommend against any DPs with them.

We would like to announce that our intelligence office has picked up the following from the Asian states.

Yes that is right they have a list of nations they want to kill, other nations on it include Madagascar and now Praetoria. It is quite obvious they wish for a massive war with these people and wish too see them annihilated.

It wasn't Blackstone bro. It was someone else in your "tight-knit" Asian Union.

It was.

And so the Asian Union's trust unravels...

To promote peace, the Caribbean Sun is starting the United Federation of Nations. The UFN's three main purposes will be:

1.) Mutual Defense
2.) Mutual Aggression based on majority vote (66%)
3.) Open Borders and Free Trade

The USSR would like to join the UFN, but thinks the aggression vote should be upped - we will become just as bad as those we seek to defend against if we are easily capable of being corrupted to bullying.

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 01:53 AM
theres a territory dispute between Madagascar and Carthage? oops.

CivGeneral
Dec 21, 2010, 04:44 AM
The NCR would like to join the United Federation of Nations. If possible.

west india man
Dec 21, 2010, 04:53 AM
About the Eraluk-Burgundy territorial dispute, I say that each country should have one territory from the disputed area. I vote Eralatuk

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 05:40 AM
I agree with WIM, GIVE BURGUNDY THE COASTAL PROVINCE AND ERALATUK THE INLAND ONE. Also, Math, that area has been in Carthage's SOI all Game, please withdraw your claims.

Carthage will happily join the UFN, but wishes more information about the ADU before Joining.

DT
Carthaginian :)

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 05:52 AM
The Caliphate:
We are disgusted by the way we have been accused I mean like why me, the Asian union was good for me I got my SOI recognized there, and about Kenya I dont care who takes it, when you agree tell me And I'll remove my claims. I hope you liked my video :D
Im joining the UFN
I vote for Abaddon

Arakhor
Dec 21, 2010, 06:30 AM
For what it's worth, Burgundy will cede the inland province if Eralatuk cedes the coastal province. Otherwise, we will stake our claim to both provinces.

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 06:45 AM
I will declare war on Burgundy if he doesnt give up his claim on the horn of Africa, this is an outrage, thats a clear breach of my SOI, this is madness, You got all of Africa and you claim Somalia, a province which is clearly my SOI

Duke Blackstone
Dec 21, 2010, 06:46 AM
If it comes to a vote, Eralatuk has mine. However, i will support a compromise.

Also, Praetoria requests to join the UFN

SonicTH
Dec 21, 2010, 06:52 AM
The USSR proposes that Eralatuk, Burgundy, the Caliphate, etc. all get together and draw up agreeable SoIs with eachother. It's worked wonders in the Americas, so it should work just as well in Africa.

CivGeneral
Dec 21, 2010, 06:52 AM
The NCR has given this situation a round in the Senate and have decited to vote for the Eralatuk in there claims.

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 06:58 AM
we already did and I got Somalia,Egypt, Eritrea, Djibouti and the Sudanese coast

Abaddon
Dec 21, 2010, 07:04 AM
Eralatuk is upset it has been invited to NOTHING. No discussions, no groups, nothing :( :snif: Something wrong with me?

Darth Caesar
Dec 21, 2010, 07:06 AM
I support Eralatuk

Abaddon
Dec 21, 2010, 07:10 AM
Eralatuk sincerely thanks everyone for their support and invites them all for stewed sheep brains and dingo testicles marinated in cod liver oil. It is our national delicacy.

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 07:19 AM
sounds nice :D

Lighthearter
Dec 21, 2010, 08:23 AM
@Canada - Would it have killed you to at least mention the dispute before mindlessly attacking? By God you're worse then the USFCNP!

@USFCNP - I would be willing to grant you a white peace now. Pray I don't alter the deal.

@The International Community - LOOK AT THE KIND OF PEOPLE I AM SURROUNDED WITH!!! HOW CAN YOU JUST STAND BY AND WATCH A DEMOCRACY BE GROUND INTO THE DUST BY FASCISTS AND COMMIES!?!?

-L

Darth Caesar
Dec 21, 2010, 08:27 AM
@USFCNP - I would be willing to grant you a white peace now. Pray I don't alter the deal.

Who do you think you are, Darth Vader?

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 08:27 AM
I offered you a loan with a minimum of 20% interest rate if you dont want it I'll give it to someone else

Darth Caesar
Dec 21, 2010, 08:30 AM
20%!? That's ridiculous!!!

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 08:39 AM
What can I say, I didn't exile the Juice for no reason I took over their banking system

Lighthearter
Dec 21, 2010, 08:42 AM
Who do you think you are, Darth Vader?

Answer the question. Do you accept or not?

-L

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 08:49 AM
The Caliphate
Banking news
I give 5 LPs to Lighthearter now and 5 LPs next turn and when the war is finished he will repay it with a 20% intrest rate (2LPs)

Darth Caesar
Dec 21, 2010, 08:54 AM
Answer the question. Do you accept or not?

-L

Bloody no!

civplayah
Dec 21, 2010, 09:05 AM
Neither Civplayah, Farsight, Domination3000, Maxithegreat was online at the time. The only other ones with access to the group at the time were Nedim or Duke. And based on the circumstances, Nedim is my #1 suspect.

Wait, what did Nedim supposedly do? I'm lost.

I have evidence to prove that Duke is innocent. I also have evidence to prove you are innocent. I didn't know there was an off-line mode. That means
Maxithegreat and CivP are now the prime suspects.
I booted Duke when I dowed him.

This is ridiculous! I don't even know what's going on! You know, this is bordering on paranoia.

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 09:14 AM
@Civ P- Ilduce was trying to find who 'leaked the private discussions of the AU,' without realising that anybody could view the discussions.

DT
Carthaginian :)

SonicTH
Dec 21, 2010, 09:15 AM
2105 USSR Presidential Election

Candidate Roland Crowley has won the Presidential election for the Libertarian party, first winning 32% in the first vote and after instant runoff, 57% of all votes. While politics has lately favored a greater role for the USSR abroad, this election was highly centered on the conflict along the eastern border.

Crowley has run on armed neutrality, earning him a large amount of votes from Conservatives and Social Democrats alike. He plans to strengthen the USSR's deterrence capability enormously while in office, as well as improve ties with allies.

"We will not take any side but our own in this conflict. The lesser of two evils is still an evil. Let them beat eachother to a standstill with their pointless war. We, meanwhile, will fortify ourselves against aggression, between a high-quality, low-cost military force and a network of loyal, faithful allies. While the oppressive regimes cannibalise eachother, the free peoples of the world are building a network of peace, prosperity, and security that will endure far longer than any conquest on the battlefield."

Crowley formerly was a chief diplomatic/national security advisor, and aggressively pushed for USSR entry into the UFN.

Thorvald of Lym
Dec 21, 2010, 09:17 AM
This is ridiculous! I don't even know what's going on! You know, this is bordering on paranoia.Long story short, the UAS usergroup somehow became public and people started posting ilduce's and Dommy's plans to make WAAAAGH! on a whole bunch of nations (the "Death List"). ilduce didn't realize their discussions weren't private and started accusing everyone of treason and booting all but themselves, you and MaxaTheGreat from the group. Japan actually DOW'ed Praetoria and threatened to DOW the Caliphate before he finally learned that technically "he" was the mole. The UAS has since disbanded.

civplayah
Dec 21, 2010, 09:25 AM
That's quite a blunder.

Abaddon
Dec 21, 2010, 09:31 AM
What are LP's?

civplayah
Dec 21, 2010, 09:45 AM
Leadership Points. What you spend on espionage.

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 09:47 AM
Off the Coast of Puerto Rico

"Juanito....isn't it beautiful?"

The usually charismatic, fast-talking radio DJ was for the first time silent. The San Juan Project was completed.

The Caribbean Sun has detonated a hydrogen bomb.

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 09:52 AM
The Caliphate Presidential Elections

SPC
Type: Socialist
Leader: Nedim Ibn Mehmed
% of votes: 65%
http://i53.tinypic.com/242g6z5.png

UNPC
Type: Ultra Nationalist
Leader: Shaban Zakheav
% of votes: 19.4%
http://i54.tinypic.com/2j4vmoj.png

LUC
Type: Liberal
Leader: Omar Hafiz
% of votes: 14.6%
http://i56.tinypic.com/1z16vyb.png

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 09:57 AM
The USSR would like to join the UFN, but thinks the aggression vote should be upped - we will become just as bad as those we seek to defend against if we are easily capable of being corrupted to bullying.

66% sounds like a lot though. What should I up it to?

Will invite soon.

The NCR would like to join the United Federation of Nations. If possible.

Will invite soon.


Carthage will happily join the UFN, but wishes more information about the ADU before Joining.


Sure thing.

The Caliphate:
We are disgusted by the way we have been accused I mean like why me, the Asian union was good for me I got my SOI recognized there, and about Kenya I dont care who takes it, when you agree tell me And I'll remove my claims. I hope you liked my video :D
Im joining the UFN
I vote for Abaddon

:)


Also, Praetoria requests to join the UFN

Will invite soon.

The USSR proposes that Eralatuk, Burgundy, the Caliphate, etc. all get together and draw up agreeable SoIs with eachother. It's worked wonders in the Americas, so it should work just as well in Africa.

It truly has.

Eralatuk is upset it has been invited to NOTHING. No discussions, no groups, nothing :( :snif: Something wrong with me?

I invited everybody but the AU (which is now defunct).

Abaddon
Dec 21, 2010, 09:59 AM
Well I happily accept :)

ilduce349
Dec 21, 2010, 10:15 AM
given that I am suspended, I'm not sure whether or not I am allowed to vote.
If I am I vote for Abbadon.

DroopyTofu
Dec 21, 2010, 10:20 AM
Spain is preparing to go into a period of isolationism, in order to deal with people who are trying to stop the spread of monarchy, even though the king is supporting the changes. We will step down from the stage of wolrd diplomacy for a while to deal with our internal affairs.

We vote for Carthage and a partition of the disputed South African territories.

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 10:41 AM
I vote for Eralatuk

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 11:01 AM
The Cuba Transitional Government is proud to announce the final phases of the transition from the previous totalitarian government to the constitutional monarchy. Admiral Castro has been crowned Emperor of the Caribbean Sun. Meanwhile, voting will begin in each province to put elected MPs into the Politburo.

When that is finished, the Emperor and Politburo will decide on who the first 11 justices of the Cuban Supreme Court shall be and who the President will be. The President will pick his or her own Vice President.

The Emperor does have some powers of the government but for the most part, the four branches (Monarch, Executive, Legislative, and Judicial) have equal power.

Gruekiller
Dec 21, 2010, 12:44 PM
I vote for Carthage.

2105 KLEIN VENEDIG ELECTIONS

Though the conservative Freiheit/Liberdad Party retains its control of the seat of Reichskanzler, giving Emilia Garcia her second term, and most of the Reichstag, a new rival to both of the established parties has appeared. A man producing convincing documents which show a family link to the Habsburg dynasty has been adopted as a mascot of sorts by the Monarchist Party, which sees a great increase in poll numbers.

CHANCELLERY ELECTION
Emilia Garcia (Fr/Li): 82%
Matthias Mark (Mon): 13%
Reinhard Horstmeyer (Ei/Un): 4%
Others (Socialists, Grün/Verde, Nationalists): 1%

PARLIAMENTARY ELECTION
Freiheit/Liberdad Party: +0 (77 seats)
Monarchist Party: +13 (13 seats)
Einigkeit/Unidad Party: -10 (10 seats)
Grün/Verde Party: -3 (0 seats)

In additional news, Dutch has been accepted as a national language alongside German, Spanish, and English.

The chair of Klein Venedig's Monarchist Party, Matthias Mark, sends Emperor Castro his congratulations, and hopes that his own nation may one day follow Caribbean Sun's example.

Joecoolyo
Dec 21, 2010, 12:51 PM
Eralatuk is getting my vote.

Arakhor
Dec 21, 2010, 12:55 PM
So Africa was already divided, yet Burgundy wasn't invited to pitch in? Somehow, we don't feel bound to honour an agreement we know nothing about.

To the Caliphate: Where is this "clear" sphere of influence we have allegedly violated? If it's the division of Africa we were not party to, then see above.

Abaddon
Dec 21, 2010, 01:16 PM
We ARE Africa, yet we weren't included either, so don't feel you were the only one left out!

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 01:24 PM
the Republic of Madagascar renounces the Claims to the 2 south African ispands. so as to not piss off Carthage. or something.

we vote for Eralatuk, since south Africa is clearly within their SoI.

do note, however that we do not know everyone's SoI in Africa. so if we expand into Mozambique or something, do not kill us.

EDIT: i feel the same way. African nation not invited to the Partition plan.

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 01:27 PM
I originally put Somalia in my SOI, from the start, me and Eralatuk have agreed that its mine, and the Asian Union also agreed its mine

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 01:31 PM
I don't beleive there have been any actual agreements to partition Africa, but nations have claimed SOI's, and these have been accepted by other African nations.

DT
Carthaginian :)

CELTICEMPIRE
Dec 21, 2010, 01:35 PM
I donate 5 LPs to Darth Ceasar

Abaddon
Dec 21, 2010, 01:45 PM
I don't beleive there have been any actual agreements to partition Africa, but nations have claimed SOI's, and these have been accepted by other African nations.

DT
Carthaginian :)

I'm the only African nation, and on-ones asked me! :lol:

I think in a few turns we will need to draw up a map or something.

west india man
Dec 21, 2010, 01:50 PM
About the Eraluk-Burgundy territorial dispute, I say that each country should have one territory from the disputed area.

Scratch that, I'm changing my vote to just ERALUTUK.

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 01:50 PM
I'm the only African nation, and on-ones asked me! :lol:

I think in a few turns we will need to draw up a map or something.

there are three African nations that im aware of. Madagascar, Eralatuk, and
Carthage. i believe any partitions involving Europeans need the final agreement from the three Native countries in order for it to be valid.

CELTICEMPIRE
Dec 21, 2010, 01:51 PM
But Africans are less evolved

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 01:54 PM
But Africans are less evolved

doesn't matter. if we cannot Rule over the continent we are based on, we don't deserve to exist as sovereign nations. regardless if we are birds or squids or anything.

CELTICEMPIRE
Dec 21, 2010, 01:56 PM
beasts arent meant to rule over land
once again this is in charchter

Arakhor
Dec 21, 2010, 01:57 PM
Nedim, if anything at all, having the completely crazy and now dissolved Asian Union agreeing with you is probably a bad sign.

We would happily attend a general conference on Africa, if one was convened.

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 01:58 PM
beasts arent meant to rule over land
once again this is in charchter

oh? humans are beasts by definition, so they shouldn't rule over the land.

CELTICEMPIRE
Dec 21, 2010, 02:01 PM
the Nordic people are just more evolved

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 02:05 PM
the Nordic people are just more evolved

wrong. Africans are the most evolved, because we stuck around the longest. and we are smarter than the Nordic people, frankly.

CELTICEMPIRE
Dec 21, 2010, 02:07 PM
the Nords were black at one time but they gradually evolved into white people, the Africans, however have not.

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 02:07 PM
Arakhor, you can take any part of Africa and I dont care but Somalia was my SOI from the beginning, thats a clear breach of it and Im not going to tolerate it, I'm not willing to divide it or share it Somalia is the SOI of the Caliphate

Darth Caesar
Dec 21, 2010, 02:09 PM
You people are racist! ALL races are inferior to Chuck.

Thorvald of Lym
Dec 21, 2010, 02:12 PM
Someone please stop this social Darwinist banter. We get it, the fascists advocate racial superiority. We don't need three pages of "you-suck-no-you-suck"; it's just spamming the thread.

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 02:13 PM
@denmark: its because of enviromental concerns.

also, because they, for some reason, believe in this racism, all relations are cut off, and all Denmark citizens are asked to leave Madagascar or be deported.

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 02:18 PM
Pacific Federation

Please refrain from further rebel funding in Australia.

Australia is a member of the UFN.

taillesskangaru
Dec 21, 2010, 02:24 PM
We don't need three pages of "you-suck-no-you-suck"; it's just spamming the thread.

I tend to agree. I have no problem with racist rhetoric but I don't want to see it pages of it like last turn. So, try not to overdo it.

Lighthearter
Dec 21, 2010, 02:26 PM
The government of New England would like to announce the completion of the movie adaptation of the first book in The Last Prophecy series, written before the Cataclysm began. The Last Prophecy has been a smash hit, grossing more then any other movie ever made by New Englanders. It is being processed and dubbed in other languages for release across the globe. Director Norman Wilcox has stated he intends to continue through Gotterdammerung and Ragnarok to complete the original trilogy. The government of New England has frowned on the portrayal of a world where polytheistic views are correct, but seem to be satisfied overall with the movie enough to endorse it.

No word yet from foreign critics.

-L

NedimNapoleon
Dec 21, 2010, 02:29 PM
The Caliphate would like to import as much books as possible and the movie

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 02:35 PM
Madagascar would like to import the movie. and the books, if available.

Darth Caesar
Dec 21, 2010, 02:39 PM
The Third Trilogy of Star Wars written by Jett Lucas and directed by Chuck Norris is a hit. Critics are claiming it is "As spectacular and genius as the Original Trilogy" while apprehensions of the Third Trilogy being an abomination even worse than the Prequels were well deserved, it has turned out to be another phenomenon. Foreign Critics have yet to review it but fans are confident they will praise this new addition to the greatest movie series the world has ever known.

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 02:56 PM
Carthage remains out of the already overful movie buisness, but both recent hits, particularly the TLP movie have been described as 'good' by the Prime Minister. He admittedly has little time for such things normally, and is happy to relax whilst viewing the movies. He comments that he would love to do such things more often, but the stresses of International Diplomacy, and Handling the committee, leaves little time for such activities.

DT
Carthaginian :D

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 03:18 PM
The government of New England would like to announce the completion of the movie adaptation of the first book in The Last Prophecy series, written before the Cataclysm began. The Last Prophecy has been a smash hit, grossing more then any other movie ever made by New Englanders. It is being processed and dubbed in other languages for release across the globe. Director Norman Wilcox has stated he intends to continue through Gotterdammerung and Ragnarok to complete the original trilogy. The government of New England has frowned on the portrayal of a world where polytheistic views are correct, but seem to be satisfied overall with the movie enough to endorse it.

No word yet from foreign critics.

-L

:lol:

We will allow our citizens to purchase the movie as they see fit.


@The International Community - LOOK AT THE KIND OF PEOPLE I AM SURROUNDED WITH!!! HOW CAN YOU JUST STAND BY AND WATCH A DEMOCRACY BE GROUND INTO THE DUST BY FASCISTS AND COMMIES!?!?

-L

Because we are Fascists?

That said, we condemn the Canadian attack as unnecessary. What right do they have to invade a sovereign country? They, being commies, have moral inferiority.

However, we support Darth Caesar's efforts to bring peace and sanity.

@Canada- Can we agree to end the spy war against each other?

I will declare war on Burgundy if he doesnt give up his claim on the horn of Africa, this is an outrage, thats a clear breach of my SOI, this is madness, You got all of Africa and you claim Somalia, a province which is clearly my SOI

We'll give you moral support, but that's it.

@Maxithegreat- We humbly request you allow us to have the rest of Eastern Russia. You can, of course, pick up the pieces of European Russia.

MaxaTheGreat
Dec 21, 2010, 03:21 PM
Siberia wishes for a trade agreement with Carthage and the young nation of Madagascar.

The government of New England would like to announce the completion of the movie adaptation of the first book in The Last Prophecy series, written before the Cataclysm began. The Last Prophecy has been a smash hit, grossing more then any other movie ever made by New Englanders. It is being processed and dubbed in other languages for release across the globe. Director Norman Wilcox has stated he intends to continue through Gotterdammerung and Ragnarok to complete the original trilogy. The government of New England has frowned on the portrayal of a world where polytheistic views are correct, but seem to be satisfied overall with the movie enough to endorse it.

No word yet from foreign critics.



-L

We would like these books and the movie aswell.


@Maxithegreat- We humbly request you allow us to have the rest of Eastern Russia. You can, of course, pick up the pieces of European Russia.

Eastern Russia? Yes, you can have them. Except for the islands, their ours.

Abaddon
Dec 21, 2010, 03:23 PM
Not with us? :(

Lighthearter
Dec 21, 2010, 03:23 PM
However, we support Darth Caesar's efforts to bring peace and sanity.


You're kidding me. How is he bringing peace and sanity? He DOW'd me out of the blue and didn't even bother to provide a reason when I've pressed him for one. Why are you supporting him?

-L

Darth Caesar
Dec 21, 2010, 03:24 PM
The Reason- You've stopped any possible expansion for me.

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 03:25 PM
Siberia wishes for a trade agreement with Carthage and the young nation of Madagascar.

Madagascar accepts the trade agreement.

Lighthearter
Dec 21, 2010, 03:27 PM
The Reason- You've stopped any possible expansion for me.

1) - Would it have killed you to state that in the beginning?

2) - I'm not expanding any further then I've already gotten to. You can go do whatever you want in S. America or Africa. I'm certainly not stopping you.

3) - The USSR has also blocked you yet you're totally focused on me . . . I think that as soon as the leaders of the USSR and Canada see that you've DOWed me simply because in your deluded little world you have nowhere else to expand, they're not going to be comfortable watching you suddenly sit on their borders.

-L

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 03:27 PM
Carthage is happy to sign a trade agreement with siberia, and looks forward to a long and prosperous relationship between our nations.

Edit: According to our records we already have such an agreement. :confused:

DT
Carthaginian :)

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 03:29 PM
Eastern Russia? Yes, you can have them. Except for the islands, their ours.

I meant the stuff we can actually get to from Mongolia, China, and Central Asia. Not the things near the North Pole. You can have that stuff.

You're kidding me. How is he bringing peace and sanity? He DOW'd me out of the blue and didn't even bother to provide a reason when I've pressed him for one. Why are you supporting him?

-L

He is our ally. You are not (You declined earlier.) That is enough. And besides, you are religious Fundamentalists, who put God before country. In short, your ideology is totally opposed to our Social Darwinism. Good day.

Darth Caesar
Dec 21, 2010, 03:33 PM
My countries ideology is Chuck Norrisism, Chuck is supreme and the only thing taken as undisputable facts are Chuck Norris facts.

MaxaTheGreat
Dec 21, 2010, 03:34 PM
I meant the stuff we can actually get to from Mongolia, China, and Central Asia. Not the things near the North Pole. You can have that stuff.


You mean just south of Lake Baikal?

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 03:34 PM
My countries ideology is Chuck Norrisism, Chuck is supreme and the only thing taken as undisputable facts are Chuck Norris facts.

Close enough;)

At least that doesn't deny the theology of the most Holy Darwin, the first fascist;)

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 03:34 PM
to be blunt, i would take an (in?)sane Christian theocratic nation over a highly racist loose cannon nation.

Madagascar officially provides moral support to New England, and offers a trading agreement with open borders to them.

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 03:35 PM
You mean just south of Lake Baikal?

Whatever. I don't care about the islands. I care about the stuff near me. I think you know what I want.

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 03:35 PM
A recent vote within the United Federation of Nations has decided that Inciting Rebellions in member states is an act of war. As such, don't.

MaxaTheGreat
Dec 21, 2010, 03:36 PM
Edit: According to our records we already have such an agreement. :confused:


I asked you once for one, but I must have missed it.

MaxaTheGreat
Dec 21, 2010, 03:38 PM
Whatever. I don't care about the islands. I care about the stuff near me. I think you know what I want.

You can have that area up to the Horde, that's when you reach my area.

Lighthearter
Dec 21, 2010, 03:38 PM
to be blunt, i would take an (in?)sane Christian theocratic nation over a highly racist loose cannon nation.

Madagascar officially provides moral support to New England, and offers a trading agreement with open borders to them.

Thank you, that means so much to WAIT A SECOND WHAT DO YOU MEAN INSANE!?!?!

In all seriousness though, I accept the deal. And request military aid.

-L

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 03:38 PM
A recent vote within the United Federation of Nations has decided that Inciting Rebellions in member states is an act of war. As such, don't.

Who is in the UFN?

Also, if this is the case, will you kick out anyone within the group who spreads revolts without group permission?

Abaddon
Dec 21, 2010, 03:39 PM
excommunicate? I don't think you understand the meaning of the word.

Lighthearter
Dec 21, 2010, 03:39 PM
I think he means expel.

-L

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 03:40 PM
Correct. After all, the Khan is an uneducated Christian, you can't expect him to get it right;)

(In case some moderator HAPPENS to be offended by that and not knowing my true beliefs, I am a Christian IRL, and that was an In Character post.)

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 03:42 PM
Who is in the UFN?

Many People. Including Australia, Preatoria, and all the native African Nations. there are over 10 member states.

DT
UFN Member :)

west india man
Dec 21, 2010, 03:43 PM
to be blunt, i would take an (in?)sane Christian theocratic nation over a highly racist loose cannon nation.

Brasil officially provides moral support to New England, and offers a trading agreement with open borders to them.

This.

@Dommy, Lake Baikal:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3471/tomasw.gif

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 03:43 PM
Thank you, that means so much to WAIT A SECOND WHAT DO YOU MEAN INSANE!?!?!

In all seriousness though, I accept the deal. And request military aid.

-L

as stated before, all of our LPs are used for the nuclear program. and i dont knwo what else to give you. XPs?

Abaddon
Dec 21, 2010, 03:46 PM
FFS DOM, PLEASE, stop saying at the end of every post "that was IC, i'm not like this IRL" we GET IT, stop repeating yourself!

Lighthearter
Dec 21, 2010, 03:48 PM
@WIM - Good! SEND VOLUNTEERS! SEND EQUIPMENT! TOGETHER WE CAN DO IT!

-L

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 03:51 PM
Many People. Including Australia, Preatoria, and all the native African Nations. there are over 10 member states.

DT
UFN Member :)

We refuse to recognize this since Australia is in it, and they've been our enemies for a long time. Stay out of the Asian Sphere please.

FFS DOM, PLEASE, stop saying at the end of every post "that was IC, i'm not like this IRL" we GET IT, stop repeating yourself!

OK;)

west india man
Dec 21, 2010, 03:52 PM
X-Post.

I'll send all my LPs.

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 03:55 PM
We refuse to recognize this since Australia is in it, and they've been our enemies for a long time. Stay out of the Asian Sphere please.

They've Joined, and they're under UFN Protection because of it. If you don't recognize it that's fine, but We politely recomend you don't attempt to sabotage or attack our members. You're not recognizing us will not place you beyond our Defense agreements.

DT
Carthaginian :)

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 03:57 PM
I honestly couldn't give a crap about Australia. There are Asians however (Names kept secret), who would like to fund rebellions to kill them. If a war starts, we side with Asia.

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 04:01 PM
We are aware that australia is unpopular in Asia, but the treaty garuntees protection, and any nation who attacks a member through funding rebels will likely face war if discovered. Please recommend to your allies that a war on such scale is best avoided, and can be avoided by simply leaving our members unharmed.

DT
Carthaginian :)

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 04:02 PM
This is what we are saying, if you start a war over it, we'll protect our Asian allies.

Just for curiosity, what is the UFN's purpose, and what is the application process?

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 04:06 PM
The UFN is a Mutual Defense Organization.

The purpose of the UFN is to prevent large scale wars such as the one that almost broke out recently in asia. To apply I beleive you just post in the thread. You must be at peace to apply and I am unsure if any other restrictions exist.

DT
Carthaginian :)

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 04:38 PM
Who is in the UFN?

Also, if this is the case, will you kick out anyone within the group who spreads revolts without group permission?

Nearly half the nations in the game are in it. It's a Mutual Defense Organization mainly.

And I'll post a discussion in the UFN regarding funding rebels, sabotage, and other such issues in the group. The UFN isn't going to be used as a shield for rogues to wage a covert war.

I honestly couldn't give a crap about Australia. There are Asians however (Names kept secret), who would like to fund rebellions to kill them. If a war starts, we side with Asia.

At most, there are three or four Asian nations that would support an aggressive war against an alliance with triple their membership and nuclear weapons.

This is what we are saying, if you start a war over it, we'll protect our Asian allies.

Ok.

But again, the UFN will deal with the rebellion funding on our side. If it comes up, the member sponsoring rebels will be suspended temporary.

Just for curiosity, what is the UFN's purpose, and what is the application process?

The purpose of the UFN is to prevent large scale wars such as the one that almost broke out recently in asia. To apply I beleive you just post in the thread. You must be at peace to apply and I am unsure if any other restrictions exist.


Pretty much. Its a Mutual Defense Organization with the ability to declare preemptive wars among other things provided 66% of its members support it.

To apply, you must be a member of good standing. If there are some doubt, there's a vote to decide if you're allowed in or not.

e350tb
Dec 21, 2010, 06:05 PM
The Glorious Leader would like to request aid from any state willing to recognise that New England's occupation of Canadian land is illegal and repressive.

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 06:32 PM
just for that, we are increasing support for New England.

we will gift 5 XP's per turn until Soviet Canada and the nation of Chuck Norris agrees to peace or are destroyed.

SonicTH
Dec 21, 2010, 08:10 PM
USSR News:

While the Star Wars and the Last Prophecy series enjoy huge successes in the warring states of the USFCNP and New England, the USSR has also joined the bandwagon with the Marcus and Skaden series of novels.

The series is loathed by religious conservatives and loved by many youths and adults alike. It details the life of the young Marcus Williams and his guardian demon, Skaden, after he accidentally slays a vampire. The right-wing has demonised the series for its portrayal of demons as being morally neutral(as if their definition was the only correct one), and its usage of magic. Some have called it, "the most evil abomination since Harry Potter."

The series was preserved in sealed chambers pre-Cataclysm, and now is enjoying a revival. There are plans to create a movie, and some say the choice of actors may make it a formidable combination: Twilight's eye candy with Harry Potter's depth and plot.

---

In the meantime, the USSR announces that its nuclear program is fully operational, and plans to develop weapons are underway. These weapons, as stated by the government, will solely be used against those who fire first.

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 08:15 PM
In the meantime, the USSR announces that its nuclear program is fully operational, and plans to develop weapons are underway. These weapons, as stated by the government, will solely be used against those who fire first.

Another member of the nuclear club? A fellow American nation as well? :)

SonicTH
Dec 21, 2010, 08:19 PM
Another member of the nuclear club? A fellow American nation as well? :)

We have yet to actually develop the weapons, but the program is officially started (10 LPs), and in the coming years we hope to acquire the weapons.

Nonetheless, they will hopefully act as a good deterrent against warmongers.

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 08:19 PM
We have yet to actually develop the weapons, but the program is officially started (10 LPs), and in the coming years we hope to acquire the weapons.

Nonetheless, they will hopefully act as a good deterrent against warmongers.

Oh.

I feel so lonely. :(

CivGeneral
Dec 21, 2010, 08:29 PM
We have yet to actually develop the weapons, but the program is officially started (10 LPs), and in the coming years we hope to acquire the weapons.

Dang, the NCR feels naked without Nukes. We just might have to develop our own Nuclear Program as a Deterrent System against aggressors outside the Americas.

GhostWriter16
Dec 21, 2010, 08:32 PM
Dang, the NCR feels naked without Nukes. We just might have to develop our own Nuclear Program as a Deterrent System against aggressors outside the Americas.

We have no intention of nuking or otherwise harming your nation unless you claim in Asia without permission of the ADU, or attack one of our allies without just cause.

As for nukes, we have no intention to use them, even when we do finally get our program together.

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 08:59 PM
so.. i could claim sri lanka and i would get nuked. no warnings to back off, no embargo, nothing. your just gonna nuke me pearl harbor style.


you might want to get that rethinked.

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 09:00 PM
so.. i could claim sri lanka and i would get nuked. no warnings to back off, no embargo, nothing. your just gonna nuke me pearl harbor style.


you might want to get that rethinked.

I'm sure he'll warn you first. ;)

Lighthearter
Dec 21, 2010, 09:01 PM
New England's nuclear weapons are ready and waiting a the moment - we are supremely unconcerned about the Canadian and USFCNP invasions. soon enough they will be routed and life will be as good and glorious as it always was.

Norman Wilcox has assembled the actors and team from The Last Prophecy and is currently finalizing the script for Gotterdammerung with the surviving relatives of the author of the book. Shooting is expected to start late this year and continue through the next until a release in the summer after.

-L

CivGeneral
Dec 21, 2010, 09:25 PM
so.. i could claim sri lanka and i would get nuked. no warnings to back off, no embargo, nothing. your just gonna nuke me pearl harbor style.


you might want to get that rethinked.
My hunch on that says it's a possibility that it would happen.

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 09:28 PM
Emperor Castro has written a book that promises to be a bestseller here in Cuba. The book is titled Why Fascism Failed.

Excerpt

It's hard to believe that five years ago, there was serious fear of a "Democracy versus Fascism" War on a scale larger than the "previous" one a 150 years ago. There was a lot of fear back then that all the Asian Union was Fascist. It wasn't true but again, fear. Great Japan and Mongolia were, and arguably are still, the biggest icons of Fascism alive. Mongolia made claims that if war was to come, the war would be backed by all the members of the AU.

At the time, this included the Ottoman Empire, Caliphate, Mongolia, Great Japan, Praetoria, and the Pacific Federation.

But then it turned out that nothing was to come of it. Mongolia's and Japan's aggressive foreign policy lead to most of the members of the members of the Asian Union to drop out. In the end, there were only four members and one of them was probably on the fence.

Then there's Denmark, or as I say, not Denmark. Denmark is the embarrassment of Fascism. They're known as the "European North Korea" because they're surrounded by mostly democratic nations.

As a matter of fact, because of Japan, the Horde, Mongolia, the Pacific Federation, and Denmark, the largest alliance in the world formed. The United Federation of Nations. With thirteen members, with members coming from every continent, the alliance is the surest guarantee of peace in the world. Nearly half of all the nations on the planet are members of the UFN and all share the common goal of peace and prosperity.

Not for everyone however, as the North American Wars show us. The problem is that out of Japan, Mongolia, and Denmark. One of them don't really belong. Japan. Japan is very pragmatic but has yet let itself get dragged into a very small, aggressive batch of nations.

Books are being sold over Amazon. :lol:

e350tb
Dec 21, 2010, 09:49 PM
New England doesn't have nukes, does it?

Dem Taqat
Dec 21, 2010, 09:53 PM
Reportedly they do. And only International pressure has kept them from being used thus far. It is recomended that canada study the records from the beginning of the war to see these facts.

DT
Anti-Nuclear Carthaginian :(

Sonereal
Dec 21, 2010, 09:58 PM
New England doesn't have nukes, does it?

That's something most nations wish to find out before they invade. :p

Mathalamus
Dec 21, 2010, 10:06 PM
Madagascar news

there are rumors of a planned coup detat within the Leadership. people are complaining that the current Malagasy model fo democracy is obsolete and flawed, and that the state is not militarized enough. they also feel that the Economy needs a vast improvement, and so does the infrastructure.

apparently, it seems that Democracy is a little unstable. if a coup will happen, it is unlikely the Forgein policy will change at all, but many things undoubtedly would.

(OOC: i want to introduce the Mathalamus Empire into this game. this seemed like the best way to do it.)

Thorvald of Lym
Dec 21, 2010, 10:15 PM
But WILL YOU PROTECT THE REDWOODS?!

e350tb
Dec 22, 2010, 02:51 AM
As I have checked, and the only evidence of New English nukes comes from New England, I have decided that the obvious conclusion is that New England does not have nukes, and that they are bluffing.

CivGeneral
Dec 22, 2010, 03:08 AM
Sounds like a poker showdown between Canada and New England. Just hope the New Englanders don't have any cards hidden in there sleaves.

I'm sure it would upset the rest of the three sensible nations in North America.

Lighthearter
Dec 22, 2010, 06:22 AM
As I have checked, and the only evidence of New English nukes comes from New England, I have decided that the obvious conclusion is that New England does not have nukes, and that they are bluffing.

:D

Believe whatever you want. As soon as I feel that using nukes is worth the international fallout . . . .

:D

-L

GhostWriter16
Dec 22, 2010, 10:16 AM
:D

Believe whatever you want. As soon as I feel that using nukes is worth the international fallout . . . .

:D

-L

We'll tolerate (Not support mind you, just let you live if you do it) a nuking of Canada since we don't like them, but Nuke DarthCaesar and we join the war.

Sonereal
Dec 22, 2010, 11:19 AM
We'll tolerate (Not support mind you, just let you live if you do it) a nuking of Canada since we don't like them, but Nuke DarthCaesar and we join the war.

The Caribbean Sun will not permit escalation of the war. We have, for the most, ignored the funding of the UFNSCP but its against our best interest to see any nation actively get involved it what we considered a North American War and unlike New England, who may or may not be bluffing, we're not when we say we have nuclear weapons.

Arakhor
Dec 22, 2010, 11:20 AM
The Burgundian ambassador yawns loudly at the last Mongolian statement and orders a fresh pot of tea.

CELTICEMPIRE
Dec 22, 2010, 12:13 PM
Today marks the 10 year anniversary of the founding of the Danish Fascist Republic, Celebration is everywhere. On the Danish-German Border we are constructing a wall, so people we want to stay in will not get out. President Lars Gustav declares that anyone found with that anti-Freedom propaganda (Why Fascism fails) will be tied and drowned.

Sonereal
Dec 22, 2010, 12:18 PM
Today marks the 10 year anniversary of the founding of the Danish Fascist Republic, Celebration is everywhere. On the Danish-German Border we are constructing a wall, so people we want to stay in will not get out.

I don't think any German wants to go into Denmark....

ZeletDude
Dec 22, 2010, 01:19 PM
We laugh at this wall.

Lighthearter
Dec 22, 2010, 01:21 PM
Vice-President Antren has been admitted to the St. Francis of Assisi hospital after he burst into uncontrollable laughter at the Mongolian threat that doctors say triggered a heart attack. He's still chuckling now, after being stabilized by our medical staff.

-L

Mathalamus
Dec 22, 2010, 02:24 PM
We'll tolerate (Not support mind you, just let you live if you do it) a nuking of Canada since we don't like them, but Nuke DarthCaesar and we join the war.

the Current leader of Madagascar, known only as Emperor Mathalamus laughs at the astounding arrogance of the mongols.

yes, that's right, the Coup detat did happen. the previous leader has Retired from political life. and he is alive and well, serving as CEO of some company.

from now on, Madagascar will be known as the..

Mathalamus Empire!

details will be added onto my post into the claims thread when the next update comes.

you can refer to me as 'the Empire' or invent your own adjective, i haven't made a good one.

the foreign policy of the Empire is unchanged. everything will be the same.

Dem Taqat
Dec 22, 2010, 03:49 PM
Carthage is happy to continue trading with the new Mathalamainian Empire, and wishes to know of any major internal changes the Emporer will be implementing.

The NCU refuses to officially comment on the construction of the Danish wall, but the ever controversial Kerugalan Minister was happy to publicly describe the affair as 'a joke so unbeleivably bad, It sent the entirety of the Union into Hysterical laughter.' The PM has requested he not be publicly disparaging of other countries, but the Committee has not contradicted his statement.

DT
Carthaginian :lol:

Sonereal
Dec 22, 2010, 03:56 PM
"In other news, the Danes think they're relevant."

XD

Arakhor
Dec 22, 2010, 04:24 PM
The Burgundian ambassador quickly repairs to a private room to avoid causing a scene by laughing hysterically at the latest Danish attempt at politics.

ZeletDude
Dec 22, 2010, 04:43 PM
We assure Denmark that no Germans or Czechs would want move there.

Abaddon
Dec 22, 2010, 04:47 PM
WAIT A SECOND.

Are we allowed to expand (more than 5) if other nations chose not to and give us their expansion points?

taillesskangaru
Dec 22, 2010, 05:26 PM
I have a lot of questions regarding this.

As of this moment expansion points cannot be traded. I may change this policy come next update however.

Also, expansion points can NOT be converted to LPs.

Abaddon
Dec 22, 2010, 05:28 PM
I ask because some people have been doing so in their claims this turn...

Duke Blackstone
Dec 22, 2010, 05:43 PM
Oh ok. Dang. I no longer cede my territory to Dommination.

Omega124
Dec 22, 2010, 05:53 PM
Australia, upon realising ithat the Pafers might not like me claiming in Indo/Polynesia, have two words to them and the AU.

"Suck it"

Mathalamus
Dec 22, 2010, 06:15 PM
Emperor Mathalamus: *realizing that Australia claimed parts of Polynesia*, well, time to dust off the tanks and put the transports to working order. cause in about 2 minutes, i'll need them.

(defensive pact still in effect)

Duke Blackstone
Dec 22, 2010, 07:03 PM
Emperor Mathalamus: *realizing that Australia claimed parts of Polynesia*, well, time to dust off the tanks and put the transports to working order. cause in about 2 minutes, i'll need them.

(defensive pact still in effect)

Care to post who all you have a DPACT with? And it wont work if youre the aggressor.

Omega124
Dec 22, 2010, 07:05 PM
Care to post who all you have a DPACT with? And it wont work if youre the aggressor.

Me, Australia.

I plan on not causing war if I have to, but my relationship to the Pasifcers are near the brink of it, anyways.

Mathalamus
Dec 22, 2010, 07:32 PM
Care to post who all you have a DPACT with? And it wont work if youre the aggressor.

i have a defensive pact with Australia. there may be others but i forgot.

Sonereal
Dec 22, 2010, 08:01 PM
And if Australia is attacked, then the UFN will protect.

Gruekiller
Dec 22, 2010, 08:17 PM
As a member of the UFN, Klein Venedig would protect Australia.

Dem Taqat
Dec 22, 2010, 08:42 PM
Carthage Stands ready to protect its australian Brethren in the UFN. We hope war can be avoided but, once again, we are willing to fight if we must.

DT
Carthaginian :)

CELTICEMPIRE
Dec 22, 2010, 09:16 PM
the wall in Denmark is to keep my own people in, not an anti-immigration wall

Sonereal
Dec 22, 2010, 09:22 PM
the wall in Denmark is to keep my own people in, not an anti-immigration wall

A Fascist taking cues from a 20th century Communist regime?

Ho ho ho the irony.

Mathalamus
Dec 22, 2010, 11:00 PM
the wall in Denmark is to keep my own people in, not an anti-immigration wall

people can and will bypass the wall. try keeping your civilian airplanes, ships, cars, etc from leaving denmark by going over, around or take the long way to friendlier nations.

Never underestimate the thirst for freedom. ever.

the Mathalamus Empire opens its doors to any Denmark citizens who wish to flee. you will be protected from denmark should they try anything.

ZeletDude
Dec 22, 2010, 11:05 PM
While we appreciate the Mathalamus Empire for offering the freedom craving Danes freedom we feel the Federation is better suited and better for such immigration and will offer any Danes who flee the oppressive regime they live under a house to live in.

Abaddon
Dec 23, 2010, 05:04 AM
I think we are pretty much done here for now :king:

taillesskangaru
Dec 23, 2010, 09:53 AM
Um... I'm sorry for the delay, gentlemen, but can I delay the update 'till Boxing Day? Thank you for your patience.

Dem Taqat
Dec 23, 2010, 10:01 AM
Sure, you're the GM after all. Besides, it's probably a good idea to take a break from the game over Christmas. Forget your online life and enjoy reality for a while. :eek::run::eek2:

Reality: Getting in the way since Civ 1 :D

DT
Not Really Carthaginian :(

NedimNapoleon
Dec 23, 2010, 10:11 AM
Im having trouble with my internet anyways so its a good pause

Lighthearter
Dec 23, 2010, 10:12 AM
No you may not! I DEMAND INSTANT GRATIFICATION OF MY EVERY WHIM!:eek:

JK, take your time.;)

-L

Arakhor
Dec 23, 2010, 10:26 AM
What in blazes are you doing online on Boxing Day? Get thee back to thy family, you unsociable git! :D

Abaddon
Dec 23, 2010, 10:29 AM
Bah! you could have it done in 30mins work! :/ I'm too excited to wait?

MaxaTheGreat
Dec 23, 2010, 10:34 AM
I don't like waiting, but i'll try to be patient.

taillesskangaru
Dec 23, 2010, 10:37 AM
you unsociable git!

I thought that's already common knowledge here.

Bah! you could have it done in 30mins work! :/ I'm too excited to wait?

Well, you're right, the update itself doesn't take that long to compile, but I want to modify the rules a bit, particularly to make it easier to manage LP and I don't have a good idea at the moment. I also have other things I'd like to do in the meantime (like the DYOS Christmas special). And updating on Christmas Day seems like bad form. So that's why Boxing Day.

ilduce349
Dec 23, 2010, 10:40 AM
why not the 24th? (I never posted this ;) )

taillesskangaru
Dec 23, 2010, 10:43 AM
why not the 24th? (I never posted this ;) )

Because today's the 24th.

Sigh... Western Hemisphereans. :p

Abaddon
Dec 23, 2010, 10:44 AM
can't you please update, and worry about making the rules better next update?

We've all stalled for now, but post update will be able to fling po about for about 300 posts atleast before we get bored again ;)

~Silly Ozian, its only 5.40pm on the 23rd here ;)

ilduce349
Dec 23, 2010, 10:45 AM
Because today's the 24th.

Sigh... Western Hemisphereans
oh yeah, my bad. Anyway dude, its 5am. What are you doing up?

taillesskangaru
Dec 23, 2010, 10:47 AM
Sigh. I'm going to sleep now though. When I wake up, I'll see about the update.

Darth Caesar
Dec 23, 2010, 10:47 AM
Announcement: I will be gone from the 24th to the 26th.

Merry Christmas!
:xmascheers: :xmascheers: :xmascheers:

west india man
Dec 23, 2010, 11:12 AM
Because today's the 24th.

Sigh... Western Hemisphereans. :p

I'm in the Eastern Hemisphere, and it's 18:12 on the 23rd here. :p

Arakhor
Dec 23, 2010, 11:25 AM
You're in the Eastern Hemisphere, WIM? Do you live in Essex? :D

Abaddon
Dec 23, 2010, 11:47 AM
Sleep well /b/rother

west india man
Dec 23, 2010, 12:57 PM
You're in the Eastern Hemisphere, WIM? Do you live in Essex? :D

Precisely!

Abaddon
Dec 23, 2010, 02:04 PM
What the girls like there?

Mathalamus
Dec 23, 2010, 02:09 PM
Girls almost always suck. too hurtful, arrogant, insane, and usually with no patience.

anyway, i will be online at Christmas day.

Duke Blackstone
Dec 23, 2010, 02:13 PM
I disagree, most of my good friends are girls. They're wayy less likely to backstab you than a guy is.

Abaddon
Dec 23, 2010, 02:27 PM
I am very content with girls in general, I was curious what they are like in Essex, you hear a lot.. but is it real?


An a girl who sucks is a keeper :groucho:

Mathalamus
Dec 23, 2010, 02:29 PM
that might be true, but girls just tend to ignore me. i just summarily cut them off from my life instead of trying to find out what i did wrong. a girl could be my Fiance and i would still summarily cut her off from my life with little loss of sleep.

west india man
Dec 23, 2010, 02:53 PM
I am very content with girls in general, I was curious what they are like in Essex, you hear a lot.. but is it real?


An a girl who sucks is a keeper :groucho:

Most of the stories are probably exaggerated, but most Essex girls are still whores, from what I've seen. I think they're much more common further into Essex, I'm very near the border with London. I don't get out too much, though. :p

On Topic, the Brasilian coffee industry is thriving.

Abaddon
Dec 23, 2010, 02:55 PM
You see, I ask because im down in Sussex ;)

Arakhor
Dec 23, 2010, 04:16 PM
Croydon girls are complete slappers, and it's "fiancee", Mathalamus, unless you're going for a civil partnership. :)

Merry Christmas everyone! I won't be back until after Boxing Day. :D

Duke Blackstone
Dec 23, 2010, 05:04 PM
Texas girls are.. fun :) just sayn. Abaddon, who is your profile pic of?

Abaddon
Dec 23, 2010, 05:14 PM
Not a scooby-doo. Just some random emo chic I got pictures off /b/ one time.

Farsight
Dec 23, 2010, 05:59 PM
The Ottoman Army is receiving very heavy resistance from the remnants of the Hellenic Imperium. To counter these enemy troops, Field Marshal Yılmaz has ordered the training of 2 new Infantry and 1 new Tank Divisions.

Gruekiller
Dec 23, 2010, 06:49 PM
When's Boxing Day again? *American trollface*

Arakhor
Dec 23, 2010, 06:52 PM
The day after Christmas Day, coinciding with the feast of St. Stephen. It's another day off in the UK and parts of the Commonwealth.

Dem Taqat
Dec 25, 2010, 03:03 AM
The carthaginian Government, being a nation with significant numbers of christians, would like to wish the nations of the world a merry christmas. We encourage everybody to relax and enjoy the festive season.

Merry Christmas Everybody :xmassign:

DT
:xmastree:

Abaddon
Dec 25, 2010, 04:35 AM
Merry Christmas Everyone :xmas:

NedimNapoleon
Dec 25, 2010, 05:30 AM
The Caliphate Wishes a merry Christmas to all you infidels :D

west india man
Dec 25, 2010, 07:00 AM
Brasil tells everyone 'Feliz Natal'. :)

civplayah
Dec 25, 2010, 08:20 AM
Wow, my family wakes up late.

Mathalamus
Dec 25, 2010, 09:22 AM
Mathalamus news

the Emperor himself (wearing a santa hat) wishes a merry Christmas to every single nation in this game, and has given everyone in the Empire a day off.

ZeletDude
Dec 25, 2010, 01:19 PM
Frohe Weihnachten from the FoCE.
(Merry Christmas)

Joecoolyo
Dec 25, 2010, 01:56 PM
The Khan wishes everyone a jolly-good one. In The Horde, the children have taken a break today from their studies in the art of war, to instead enjoy slaughtering present wrappings, and enjoying the insides to great extent. :goodjob:

Gruekiller
Dec 25, 2010, 02:54 PM
In all four of Klein Venedig's current national languages, Frohe Weihnachten, Feliz Navidad, Gelukkig Kerstfeest, and Merry Christmas! :D

Farsight
Dec 25, 2010, 03:13 PM
The Ottoman Empire, while largely a secular nation at this point, takes some time off to thank everyone for the fact that no major world wars have occured.

DroopyTofu
Dec 25, 2010, 05:33 PM
Feliz Navidad a todo el mundo desde el Nuevo Imperio de Espańa!

The desenters have been put down, the Senate is running smoothly, and everyone is enjoying the holidays in Spain, Italy, Moracco, and Argentina.

MaxaTheGreat
Dec 25, 2010, 06:16 PM
Siberia wishes a Merry Christmas to everyone! :xmassign:

CivGeneral
Dec 26, 2010, 03:52 AM
I take it this is IOT's Xmas break ;).

ZeletDude
Dec 26, 2010, 02:13 PM
The Federation would like to propose an alliance to the Klein-Venedig, we propose this alliance as we are both 'German'.

Gruekiller
Dec 26, 2010, 02:16 PM
Klein Venedig agrees to this offer of alliance, and hopes it and the Federation can protect democracy in these troubled times.

Darth Caesar
Dec 26, 2010, 03:02 PM
Summary of the last 48 Hours Please.

Abaddon
Dec 26, 2010, 03:07 PM
CHRISTMAS

:p

CivGeneral
Dec 26, 2010, 03:07 PM
Summary of the last 48 Hours Please.
Snow, Christmas, presents, ogling the loot, etc ;)

ZeletDude
Dec 26, 2010, 03:48 PM
Summary of the last 48 Hours Please.

Christmas wishings in various languages

Mad Man
Dec 27, 2010, 12:37 AM
Happy Monday eveyone!!!!!

GhostWriter16
Dec 27, 2010, 09:05 AM
I thought update was supposed to be on the 26th....

@Tailless- Can you please tell us when its happening?

@Japan- I propose we make our alliance official.

Farsight
Dec 27, 2010, 09:22 AM
Just so you know, I don't think I'll be able to play for the next few days.

zxe
Dec 27, 2010, 06:23 PM
Never mind.

GhostWriter16
Dec 27, 2010, 06:26 PM
Madagascar is already owned by Mathalamus.

ZeletDude
Dec 27, 2010, 06:52 PM
I thought update was supposed to be on the 26th....

@Tailless- Can you please tell us when its happening?

@Japan- I propose we make our alliance official.

Its only the 27th... be patient? ;)

CivGeneral
Dec 27, 2010, 09:05 PM
Its only the 27th... be patient? ;)
He needs a chill pill. He cant help it that we are all enjoying our Xmass, Kwanza, New Years break :p

taillesskangaru
Dec 28, 2010, 05:49 AM
@Tailless- Can you please tell us when its happening?

What's happening is that I'm a bit depressed. Expect an update sometime in the next 24 hours though.

Abaddon
Dec 28, 2010, 11:17 AM
But you have all these people eager for your work and thankful for your existance! :D

CELTICEMPIRE
Dec 28, 2010, 02:17 PM
What's happening is that I'm a bit depressed. Expect an update sometime in the next 24 hours though.

thanks

taillesskangaru
Dec 29, 2010, 05:50 AM
Update 5

AD 2106

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8083/tankr.jpg

Canadian tanks in Moncton, New Brunswick. A counter-invasion
into Quebec by the New Englanders failed.
The war continues to be limited to North America, though military aid from
around the world have been received by all three warring parties.



http://i.imgur.com/v0LDi.png

Puntland is contested between Burgundy and the Caliphate. You may vote to resolve the dispute. BOLD your votes in RED.

Espionage :scan:

Against New England
An unknown country has conducted counter-espionage against New England. New England loses the ability to conduct spy missions this turn.
An unknown country has conducted sabotage against New England. New England loses 5 LP this turn.
An unknown country has stolen the plans of New England. The unknown country will fight better when facing the forces of New England.

New England's Nuclear Program has been exposed!
Status: complete, nuke production now possible
Number of nukes: 0

All other actions last turn failed but were not discovered.

Battle Results :ar15:

(Note: I'll list battles like this: province - max attacker roll, max defender roll, result)

Pirate War of Aggression
USFCNP (Pirates) - New England

Pirate offensives
Ohio 34, 76 DEFEAT
Pennsylvania 87, 84 VICTORY
Maryland 30, 91 DEFEAT
Delaware 27, 89 DEFEAT
New York 81, 77 VICTORY
Connecticut 46, 82 DEFEAT

New English offensives
Virginia 95, 60 VICTORY
New Jersey 71, 14 VICTORY
West Virginia 91, 52 VICTORY


Canadian Reconquest of Newfoundland
Canada - New England

Canadian offensive
New Brunswick 87, 83 VICTORY

New English offensives
Quebec 90, 97 DEFEAT


IMPORTANT - Rule Changes:

1. Sabotage spy mission - now causes the victim to lose 5 of their LP for one turn.

2. Trading XPs - is now possible. So you can now trade XPs for LPs and vice versa. But you can not convert one to the other (and giving XPs to countries at war will NOT allow them to expand!)

3. Trading XPs and LPs - from now on, any traded XPs or LPs will be available for use the turn after the trade is made, for one turn only. So if you give a player some this turn, he can only use it next turn. For clarity I will post the exact number of XPs and LPs available to each player at the start of each turn, that will include both the points you get normally plus the points you get from trade or aid.

Please don't be scared. It looks like something from Ab Antiquo but it's not. All it's going to do is make it easier for me to keep track of all the trades.

http://i.imgur.com/rYG0m.png

GM Comment:

It is now Turn 6 (AD 2106)

As usual, if I made a mistake tell me where and I'll look at it.

NedimNapoleon
Dec 29, 2010, 06:03 AM
The Caliphate
Vote for us its our SOI. A picture of Caliph Nedim Ibn Mehmed with the Soldiers of Allah in Somalia
http://i51.tinypic.com/70uhyo.png

Dem Taqat
Dec 29, 2010, 07:35 AM
OOC::(
I prefered the old rules. :mischief: :OOC

Carthage votes for the Caliphate in their dispute with Burgundy. The area has long been in their Sphere of Influence, and should not be contested so late in procedings.

DT
Carthaginian :)

NedimNapoleon
Dec 29, 2010, 08:05 AM
The Caliphate Thanks Carthage for their support

Mad Man
Dec 29, 2010, 08:24 AM
France Classic votes for our brothers in Burgundy.

Lighthearter
Dec 29, 2010, 08:29 AM
@Canada - Seeing as I'm feeling generous, I'll offer you this before I get nukes: withdraw NOW and I won't hold it against you. NOW. You might even talk me into letting you keep Newfoundland. Hell, I never really wanted it anyway. If you'd bothered to open your mouth before your armories, you might have gotten it in exchange for some minor concession and we'd have been spared all this pointless bloodshed.

@USFCNP - Again, seeing as how I'm feeling generous, I'll give you one last chance. Status Quo Ante Bellum peace or I'm done negotiating.

@The World - I thank everyone who has supplied me with aid - might I impose upon you to send as much more as possible? I must retake New York City!

OOC: Not to sound boorish, but as a comment I think we need some "commonsense" rules about combat . . . I.E. how'd he get Pennsylvania and New York both if NJ fell? Doesn't seem realistic to me. At this rate I'll just be running around through the whole of New England tamping down one territory at a time while he jumps ahead one at a time.

And I liked the old rules too - though by your definition I have some trades made last turn to appraise you of;) :OOC


-L

Abaddon
Dec 29, 2010, 08:44 AM
Eralatuk votes for the the Caliphate

Omega124
Dec 29, 2010, 08:45 AM
I vote for Burgundy

Darth Caesar
Dec 29, 2010, 08:56 AM
The Caliphate

west india man
Dec 29, 2010, 08:59 AM
The Caliphate

GhostWriter16
Dec 29, 2010, 10:00 AM
The Caliphate our Asian Defense Union Brothers, we support ye.

Sonereal
Dec 29, 2010, 10:04 AM
I vote Caliphate.