This is the Term 5 thread for the infamous Game of Houses. Remember, to opt-in, post your new point information.

Conflict Rules (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=588459#post588459)

The file I use to keep these records is getting abnormally large. Also, it takes fovever to get information out of Excel into a text table. Therefore, rather then viewing information here, I will post information in the form of the Excel file I use. (Don't worry. If you use Windows, then you likely have Excel. :D)

www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Conflicts-Jan24.zip

I've got a question... Does garrison points (from keeps etc.?) re-new every term?

garrison points are no more. there is only mobile points now.

Thank you for that, jdd. All troops now are the same type, and must be raised by the points you get from your various positions.

Ok.... I'm opting back in.... I am currently:

Baron
Knight
Mayor
Have 8 connected tiles
2 unconnected tiles

I'm in, of course. I'll figure and post my points on Monday.

I'm in as well. I'll get back to you with the point totals. Also, can you or can you not use castles, towers, etc. to raise troops still? I've been kinda unclear on this since this they abolished garrison troops.

I'm in. Like Shaitan I will do my info on Monday. Hopefully the Council will confirm me as JA by then.

Structures still give troop points as listed in the rules. Now they are general points, same as tiltes, positions and land.

I'm in, but like I said before, I think I have 4 cavalry instead of just 2. But anyway, I will have to do my points tomorrow too...

Base 106
RPG Manager +56
Prince +86
Archduke +86
Duke +46
Earl +46
Baron +26
Count +26
Margrave +26
Knight +16
City, pop 0-6 (11) +226
Spec.Palace +206
Castle (11) +2206
Contiguous land tiles (208) +2086
Isolated land tiles (15) +81

Total Points for Term 5: 5325

ok hes just showing of there :) i said in the last thread that all of my troops had been moved into Ankh Morpork

That is a lot of points. I better spend some before I attract too much attention. ;)

Upgrade all pikemen to musketmen. Upgrade cost is 1/2 the troop point difference. Pikes are 30, Muskets are 60, so each upgrade will be 15 points.

19 upgrades @ 15 points each = 285 points.

I'm also raising a homeguard. 3 muskets and two cannons in each of these locations:
Androbius
Bavaria
Civanatoria
Cuernavaca
Dapperdan
Gunningheim
Kuhkaff
Naerva
Nocsfiedera
TS-P-2
Valhalla
NP-K-11
Marillion

Thats 36 muskets at 60 points each (2160 points) plus 24 cannons at 40 each (960 points).

Grand total for all points I just spent is 3405.

yes now youve spent them no-one will notice the few hundred units you have ;)

Base 100
RPG Manager +50
Baron/Count/Margrave* +20
City, pop 0-6 (2) +40
Mansion/Fortress +20
Spec.Palace/Castle +200
Per contiguous land tile (13) +10
Per isolated land tile (1) +5
400g spent +20
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Total:465

OK, I have a Strategy modifier of 4, so:

Base 104
Gov 104
Prince 84
Count 24
Knight 14
Tower 14
Sm Palace 44
Castle 204
2 contig 24
2 iso 14
Fortress 24

Total: 654

OK, I'd like to upgrade all 13 of my pikemen to Muskets (costs 195 points I believe?)

I will be raising more troops later.

Right now I will upgrade my Pikemen to Musketmen
Thats 90 troop points.

what is the deal about the strategy skill modifier? i couldnt find it in the conflct rules...

From the Rules: A player may add his Troop Levy score to each category he qualifies for (except gold purchases).

Troop Levy is the Strategy skill. Mine is 4, so I add 4 to every category. Unless the rules have changed without the rules post being edited....

In my effort to make people do their homework, I will only accept points from properly posted lists. The best example is Shaitan's in this post. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=692218#post692218) Please, list the qualifier, and the points.

Also, if you screw up, too bad. The only things I check are land and point numbers. If you forget something, you'll have to wait until next term. Exceptions will be made in a few circumstances.

P.S. Strider: please repost. First, put the points in. Also, buildings count toward points.

Also, Grandmaster is correct. He can add 4.

EDIT: Personal Excel file updated from this post above. Post #2 will be updated tomorrow.

Troop levy is actualy WARFARE + Strategy.

Base 100
Prince +80
Baron +20
Knight +10
City, pop 0-6 (1) +20
Contiguous land tiles (24) +240
Isolated land tiles (4) +20
TOTAL= 490

Oh well.... being as that I screwed up already, I won't attempt to add my WARFARE ability into the mix.... only a couple of points anyways.

Warfare: 3
Stratagy: 2

Base: 105 (correct?)
Baron: 25
Mayor: 25
Knight: 15
Large Palace: 85
Castle: 205
Contigous land tile: 85
Isolated land tile: 15

= 560

I wish to use this to upgrade all of my Pikemen to Musketmen (435 points)

This leaves me with 135 points extra... I wish to us these to raise 2 knights (140). Please takes the last five out of my account.

Okay, my opt-in for this term:

WARFARE = 3
Strategy = 6
so Troop Raising = 9

Base +109
Prince +89
Duke +49
Count +29
Baron +29
Margrave +29
Knight +19
Cities pop 0-6 (4) +89
Fortress +29
Castle +209
Contiguous land (45) +459
Isolated land (7) +44

Total points for Term 5: 1183

okay my point totals are as follows
[code]
Strategy 2
base 102
Duke or Earl(cant remember) 42
Baron 22
Count 22
Margrave 22
Knight 12
Cities pop 0-6 (1) 20
Contiguous Land Tiles (10) 120
Cities Pop 7-12 (1) 50
Mansion 20
Rpg Game Manager 50

total 482 i would like it all to become knights

@BCLG100 - You don't get troop points for Duke. That is an appointed title from your job. You have a Baronship and Knighthood, no Count or Margrave.

@Shaitan, he should have had a Margrave title from 2 days ago, I was slow updating the Peerage. He also has now purchased a Count-ship.

Gotcha :)

The points of Prince JDD2007 of Cincinnatia

Warfare-3
Stregy-4

Base-107
Prince-87
Duke-47
Baron-27
Knight-17
Cities pop 0-6-27
Large Palace/Castle-207
Contiguous land (34)-347
Isolated land (7)-42

Total points for Term 5: 908

id like to buy 8 knights...

Okay, I have 5 Spearmen (Spearmen! :eek: ) to upgrade to muskets. Upgrade is 1/2 the difference between the full cost of the 2, so 20 pts each = 100 pts.

I will also purchase an additional 5 muskets to be placed in Ostbuchtschloss, in Padmativa = 300 pts.

I will also put 2 muskets in Striders haven, and 2 in Tarkingrad. That's 240 more pts.

1183 - 640 = 543 pts left.

I will use these points later, when I figure them out a little better. ;)

All Vanir Knights move to Vanir proper to engage the Indians. The castles currently under siege fortify all troops.

This is a problem I need to address. My records indicate that the troops were stationed within the cities, rather than the castles themselves. Since no orders were given to move, I can only assume that they were either captured or destroyed in their attempt to defend the city. Had they been stationed in the Castles, I would see reason for them to still even be there.

However, considering the circumstances in which this happened, we'll make a slight exception. Shaitan, if you can get me the names of the casltes and the exact location of the movement of those knights, I'll update that.

MARKER: Changes noted, 2nd post updated.

I wish to spend 1600g to buy 2 caravels. (40 shields at 200g for 10 shields = 800x2= 1600g) Please place them on tile: TS-C-11

Is your palace eqipped with a harbor?

Just to be on the realistic side, I'll put them at TS-B-11, a coastal tile next to C-11 that you own.

Originally posted by Octavian X
Is your palace eqipped with a harbor?

Just to be on the realistic side, I'll put them at TS-B-11, a coastal tile next to C-11 that you own.

C-11 is also coastal.... Anyway... it doesn't matter... Just charge me in full :)

Originally posted by Octavian X
This is a problem I need to address. My records indicate that the troops were stationed within the cities, rather than the castles themselves. Since no orders were given to move, I can only assume that they were either captured or destroyed in their attempt to defend the city. Had they been stationed in the Castles, I would see reason for them to still even be there.

However, considering the circumstances in which this happened, we'll make a slight exception. Shaitan, if you can get me the names of the casltes and the exact location of the movement of those knights, I'll update that.

MARKER: Changes noted, 2nd post updated.
I wish I could. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do the routes. If anybody wishes to step up as interim commander-in-chief of the Vanir forces now that Prince Shaitan has been lost, please post instructions to recall all knights back to the North Province. The current locations are listed by city in the first posts of this thread. Also list out the units fortified in castles in the cities that are currently resisting Indian occupation. The translation of city to castle is in the Princedome of Vanir threads.

The Vanir CIC will receive 2000g for posting these instructions.

are there any troops on tile TS-O-4 left? if yes please transfer them to me as "vampire" troops. the UFO took over TSort castle and all remaining troops fell on the attack and were transferred to the evil forces.

It has been decided by the Great Prince of Lancre, Lord Padma von Kultis, that the Vampire menace infesting our lands must be exstinguished. We will destroy these vile creatures with the utmost prejudice.

7 knights, stationed in Kultis Castle at tile TS-P-3 will be sent to TS-O-4, where they will engage any Vampire defenders of the tile and will then commence to destroy the Fanatikan Populace Center, which the evil ones are attempting to transform into a Castle from which they can invade our lands. Thank you.

Here is the PM with Padma's orders, in case you need evidence that I can legitimately command his troops:

[quote]
As Commander in Chief of all Lancre forces, I give you free reign to post move orders for any of my troops. You can quote this PM if there are any issues.
[quote]

i will offer my troops to any battle to defend fanatikan home soil so if you want padma i put them under your orders..... for the time being

The financial incentive for Conflict participation for this term has been posted to the FRA.

With 543 points left, I wish to raise 5 Cavalry, to be stationed at Castle Kultis. Also 2 more Muskets, also for Kultis. That's 520 points, so I have 23 left, If I ever find a use for them. :D

I'll use 900 of my remaining points to raise 10 cavalry, under the command of Capt. Snow. Riga would be their origin point and they move to north of Naerva to meet the American agressors.

I would like to raise 5 Cavalry (cost 450), stationing them in Valhalla.

That's only 450 points, GM.

Yeah, that's what I meant. I was about to write 450, but then I saw your post and it confused me... ;)

I would like to Op in to the game of house, I am not sure on what to do next since I am kind of taking it slow in The game of house :). Ive opped in before in turn - 4, but I have never seen an update that stated that I oped in and thus I oped out.

And to make sure, I am Opting Into the Game of House

Are there any option of buying warships :)

Where can I get a low down on what this is?

@CivGeneral: You can buy units that we have researched in the game, but if you act fast, since you are the science leader, you can buy units one tech ahead of what we have researched.

Originally posted by gunning1
@CivGeneral: You can buy units that we have researched in the game, but if you act fast, since you are the science leader, you can buy units one tech ahead of what we have researched.

Hmm, I am interested in buying some Riflemen (they cost 80 Shileds and thus they cost 80 Points)

Now to figue out my point value and then Ill specify the Quantity of units I want :)

I am not sure on how my Point score would come out, But I calculated the points with my best guessed data
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Base 100
Mayor +20
Baron/Count/Margrave* +20
Knight +10
City, pop 0-6 +20
Per contiguous land tile +10(3)
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Total 200 points


Since I am Opting in
I want to raise an army consisting of

1 Riflemen (80 points Science Leader Bonus)
1 Cavalry

In Novgorod

CG: you have 10 contiguous tiles and 2 tiles in the open.

So that's 100 points for the contiguous ones, and 10 for the ones in the open. Hope this helps! :D

Thanks, gunning, for helping. Perhaps I could get you on the RPG's payroll...

Sorry for the lack of updates, but a new one is done now.

I believe I get 245 points.
100 Base + 100 Govenor + 20 mayor + 20 city pop 0-6 + 5 Isolated tile =250!

I would like to buy and have it put in my only tile. Goonidom
1 musketman 70 + 70 1 musketman + 1 Cavalary 80 =220

Please fortify!

Can I buy anything with 25?

No Problem Oct, that would be great!

Well, finally, here are my points:


Base: 100
Mayor: 20
Prince: 80
Count: 20
Knight: 10
Tower: 10
Small Palace: 40
Cities 0-6: 120
Cities 7-12: 50
Contiguous Tiles: 450
Isolated Tiles: 25
100 gold: 5

=930 points

@Goonie: you can't buy riflemen yet...you have to wait until we get the tech.

And, to spend some of my points, I would like:
5 cavalry to be placed on Ise.

Goonie, gunning, though I know you really want these troops to be raised, I must announce that the conflicts ruleset is hereby terminated. The Fanatikan government has nationalized all private troops.

As such, I am now out of a job. Anyone need some help?

We have Nationalism, I knew I should have oped in way earlyer in the beguining.

Wait, what do you mean Oct?

Does that mean we can no longer fight each other? If this is the case, we should change it so that we can still fight each other :)!

If we don't fight, what do we do then? Wait for replaceable parts and start a guerilla war?

Send a proposal to the three remaining managers....

we could hold a civil war :-)

I just joined to RPG and I want CARNAGE!!!

Well, if you want carnage, you can pick up my rifle at Grandmaster's store and attempt to rescue me and Padma from the vampires in the religions thread.

Good luck.

P.S. Don't forget to bring garlic.

@shabba: hmmm. i wonder how you 2 get those messages out of my secret cookie factory....

anyways, what about if we allow private buying of troops, as well as fighting each other, but no the capturing of land?

also noble titles as well as land ownership and buildings should not add to the troop-points any more, only money should enable you to buy troops...

we could then use troops to fight civil wars or to protect important buildings... for example...

Sort of like para-military groups?

Just as long as they don't decide to bomb the Military HQ *cough* Trader/Warrior *cough*

The other thing I thought of was to allow governors to buy units to form a National Guard type thing.... and then use them to launch civil wars. Regional militias like in the American Revolution would be more accurate, I suppose.

I like regional militias, although that is before the concept of nationalism in RL. I was thinking, we could have regiments organized along British lines (atleast for WW2), where soldiers from the same general area formed a regiment, so there was a Warwickshire Regiment, Yorkshire Regiment etc. Another alternative is mercenary fighting, so we could have pre-formed regiments of troops for hire and lords could bid on them.

A way to reward combat is by capturing buildings of importance like dis said. Each building would be worth a certain amount of gold, which lords could then use to raise more troops. To balance this out, there could be a higher income for people with smaller armies.

the idea of provincial troops seems good to me. the governor could try to raise money from the citizens of the province.
then he could buy provincial troops...
the area a troops passes could be passed over to the province (for rpg-purposes like land-income etc., not for dg-purposes like build queues). but i dont know whether this could interfere with the dg.