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Points of order...
The instructions from the Culture Department were erroneously misplaced during the previous turn chat with respect to Kagoshima. Fortunately, no damage was done as this mistake was caught before anything else was produced. The build orders for that town shall be switched immediately to a culture generating improvement.

Keep everything as it is exept:

Zorgonzolia
Library(14), Temple, Courthouse, Marketplace.
I would like another defence unit to be placed in Zorgonzolia when it is available, so we have two units defending it.

Serenity
Library (3), Marketplace, Courthouse, Cathedral.

Sturmandrang
Temple(7), Courthouse, Aqueduct, Marketplace, University.

I still request that either culture buildings and/or courthouse is bought in Zorgonzolia, Huntington, Trader's Inn and Grandmastoria. The request is also posted in the Budget thread.

Octavinium
If Plan A is accepted I must insist that Octavinium is allowed to complete its Marketplace before it starts producing military units. After the Marketplace is complete let Octavinium produce military units.

Im sure that if the governors post their instructions you can ignore most of these queues and micromanagment. I do request we try not to adhere to Plan A just because some feel its for the GOOD of the nation. The majority of the rushes cheetah asked for are not approved with exception to:
Zorgonzolia - Library(56 gold)
Grandmastoria - Library(20 gold)
Trader's Inn - Library(64 gold)

Donsigs request is approved as well:
I formally request that a temple be rushed in Eklektochtitlan. The current cost would be 128g. In three turns the cost will be under 100g. Please rush it as soon as possible as it is needed to inspire a WLTK day in that city which will lower waste and corruption there.

Eklektikos request for the marketplace is approved. University is not.
I would like to request 148g in order to rush the marketplace being built in Valhalla during preturn

Build Queues

Southwest Province
Nocsifidera- Pikeman(26), Cathedral, Granary
Civanatoria- Pikeman(6), Temple, Granary, Marketplace
New Falcon's Nest- Knight(7), Temple, Courthouse
Cuernavaca- Granary(19), Pikeman, Granary, Courthouse
Pensacola- Pikeman(3), Temple, Granary, Aqueduct
Bremershaven- Granary(4), Cathedral, Pikeman, Courthouse NOTE: This city is in danger of revolt with 3 unhappy citizens. And alternative would be to switch the Granary and Cathedral to make the citizens happier.
Tlaxcala- Pikeman(2), Teple, University, Marketplace

Micromanagement
Eklektochtitlan - Place the entertainer on the hill. It's no longer needed, and will increase production.

Kagoshima - A worked wheat tile can be moved to one of the forests. It slows growth just a bit, but it gains a shield. It could be done in 3 turns, though. (after the pike is finished)

Nara - Move the tile SW of the cattle onto the road SE of the city. No shields are lost, but it does gain 1 commerce.

Zargonzolia - Move the worked tile from the irragated floodplains to the plains 1 NW of that Pike. It gains 1 shield.

Bremershaven - A worked grassland tile (West of the city) can be moved to the north forest, but slows growth. (optional - can be done in 4 turns after the granary is complete)

Yokohama - The worked tile 2 to the SW of the city can be placed on the forest, but at the cost of growth. At 50% corruption, and there's only 1 hill (the rest tundra), it's all the production it can get for now.

Strider's Haven - The roaded tile 1 SE can be moved to the mined plains 1 to the south for another shield, but reduced growth.

Kells - Put the worked tile 1S of the city onto a forest tile. It grows in one turn, so it can reclaim the irragated grasslands.

The Burrow - Place the worked tile on the irragated tile onto the forest. It's at size 6 with no aquaduct. Also, that irragated tile can be mined instead. (It's a bonus grassland tile).

Strumandrang - Place one of the worked floodplains onto the irragated plains. It's at size 6 with no acquaduct, plus, it will gain 1 shield.

Bizen - Move a worked roaded tile onto a roadless bonus grassland. It gains a shield, but loses gold. A 2nd one can do the same, but I wouldn't recommend it until we get it roaded.

Tarkingrad - If the city wants to build a pike, then atleast put the worked tile onto the forest.

Pensacola - When it grows (in 3 turns), place a worked tile on the forest.

Civantoria - After the grassland tile is mined and roaded, place a plains tile onto the mined/roaded grassland

Trader's Inn - The worked mountain tile is not needed, and can be turned into an entertainer for an eventual WLTKD.

Connect unconnected cities right away and iggigate and mine everywhere we can so we can grow our cities.

Taliesin Build Queues.

Morgana - [c]University(3), Marketplace(15), Aquaduct(15), Knight(10) Temple(9)
Morgana- Keep workers as is.

Strider's Haven - [c]Marketplace(10) University (15) Knight(10)
Striders Haven- Please move SW worker S. This doubles growth time, but shaves off two turns for building.

The Burrow - [c]Cathedral(13), Courthouse (8)
The Burrow- Keep workers as is.

Palanthus - [c] Courthouse(10), Marketplace(20), Pikeman(6), Knight(14), Worker (2)
Palanthus- Keep workers as is

Dacula - [c]Aquaduct (25), Temple(15), University (25)
Dacula - Keep as is. A note for when we have workers. Please mine and road the wheat NW NW, seeing as that could help us.

Goonidom - [c]Library(28), Pikeman (30), Courthouse (80)
Goonidum- Keep as is

Penguin - [c]Temple(47), Courthouse (80), Worker (10)
Penguin- Keep as is. Later on, with worker, please mine the Game.

New PDX - [c]Temple(12), University (34), Worker (4)
New PDX- Keep as is

The Highlands- [c]Library(1), Barracks(10), Temple(30)
The Highlands- Keep worker as is.

Tarkingrad - [c] Pikeman(14), [c] Pikeman (14)
Tarkingrad- Move laborer N, NW onto the mined plains.

Leave all build queues the same.

Now for Bizen(Newly flipped city)

Library(14), Marketplace(40)

I had worker order that went ignored last t/c for some reason.
I asked for forest to be planted near Shimonoseki. Please do this. Forest is better then Tundra. Please fill all tundra tiles with forest. Then plant forest all the way to Novgorod and do the same. Micromanagement is fine the way it is.

:king:

Kyoto- Change Knight to Worker, Granary, and move on to Plan A or knight.


Plexenburg- Keep worker, Aqueduct, Granary, Barracks, and temple, knight.

Kells- Change to worker, Aqueduct, Granary, Barracks, knight.

Keep citizens the same for now.
Change last production building to PLAN A if needed (with notification)

:king:

South Doughnut Coast

Padmativa: Temple (6), Courthouse

Leningrado: Barracks (2), Musketmen

The Highlands must be renamed back to Cleveland. There was no approval poll to change Cleveland to The Highlands.

City build queue (# of turns to complete)

Bremershaven knight (5), knight (5), musket (4), musket (4), musket (4)
Civanatoria temple (16), aqueduct (34)
Cuernavaca courthouse (26)
Eklektochtitlan temple (11)
New Falcon's Nest knight (7), knight (12), knight (12)
Nocsfiedera worker (6), granary (60)
Pensacola market (17), aqueduct (20)
Tlaxcala knight (10), knight (14), knight (14)


Reasons for changes:

Build queue poll, (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40858) currently tied at 10-10. As governor I would break the tie in favor of the poll. That accounts for the queues in Bremershaven, Tlaxcala, Dapperdan, Civanatoria, Pensacola, Nocsfiedera and New Falcon's Nest.

Eklektochtitlan, a size 12 city is builind a granary. This will be useless for quite some time. A temple will offset unhappiness problems.

Cuernavaca is also building a granary but it will not be able to grow past size two without some irrigation which is well in the future. A courthouse will help make the city more productive.

Micromanagement:

Bremershaven: Please move a laborer from the forest to the raded plain for an extra 1gpt.

Cuernavaca needs irrigation and roads when possible.

Eklektochtitlan: Use one of the larorers on the irrigated plains to hire a second entertainer. Please rush the temple for 128g if approved.

New Falcon's Nest: Please move a laborer from the mined plains to the irrigated plains and use the laborer on the furs to hire an entertainer to inspire a WLTK day. Please irrigate the mined plains when possible.

EDIT: Found out Dapperdan is in the North Province. :eek: Edited out my references to that fine city.

Science Department

Keep researching Chenistry and continue the path to Military Tridition

OK, most queues are remaingin as-is. However, Kagoshima is to switch immediately from building a Pikeman to building a Marketplace. The pikeman should then be placed next in the build queue. Also, a Barracks is to be placed in the Nara build queue as the next project. I have no micromanagement requests yet.

Queues should be:

Kago: Market, Pike
Nara: Knight, Barracks

Trade (along with discussion with FA) would like you to consider this poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40926). While informational, it has overwhelming support.

Other than that, nations are too poor to trade, and no trade deals will expire.

The poll for the naming of The Highlands is underway. You may change it, but around turn 5 could you check the poll to see if quorum was met? If it was, please change it back.
Poll is here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40974

Foreign Affairs

France

- 200 gold for peace

Zulu

- 52 gold + 4gpt for peace

Rome

- 52 gold +6gpt for peace

Greece

- 55gold + 3 gpt for peace

China

- 40 gold for peace

Iroquois

- Navigation for 300 gold, 18gpt and world map and peace


Sign an alliance with Babylon against the Persians. Take a spot vote for a RoP.

Send new Defensive Units to Eastern Cities and Offensive units to Western cities.

Upgrade the 2 Spears in Kuhkaff.

move Valhalla Spear to Bavaria to be upgraded (then moved back)

move spear in Leningrado to The Burrow to be upgraded (then moved back)

Move Knight in Strider's Haven to Palanthus, and then a pike from Palanthus to Goonidom, and then the spear in Goonidom to Palathus to be upgraded

this will cost 100g, I expect Fionn to approve them, only upgrade them if Fionn approves

Please note that pikemen should be replaced in the queues by Musketmen once the former are no longer available

Kuhkaff
Build queue: University (rush on turn #2), Knight, Knight, Knight
Tile optimisation: If university rush in not approved, move the two labourers working unimproved grassland tiles to work hill tiles instead; then move them back once university has been completed.

Valhalla
Build queue: Marketplace (rush during preturn), Pikeman, Pikeman, Knight
Tile optimisation: Leave as is

Naerva
Build queue: Courthouse, Pikeman, Pikeman, Knight
Tile optimisation: Leave as is

Gunningheim
Build queue: Courthouse, Pikeman, Pikeman, Pikeman
Tile optimisation: Please move labourer from forest tile SE of city to roaded & mined hill N of city

Androbius
Build queue: Courthouse (skip if WLTKD eradicates all corruption), Barracks, Musketman, Knight
Tile optimisation: Switch tax collector to entertainer to trigger WLTKD.

Dapperdan
Build queue: Harbor
Tile optimisation: Move labourer from hill tile E of city to coast

Province-wide tile improvements: Please irrigate and road the province as shown on the map below.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/TNP740ad.jpg

Originally posted by FortyJ
Points of order...
The instructions from the Culture Department were erroneously misplaced during the previous turn chat with respect to Kagoshima. Fortunately, no damage was done as this mistake was caught before anything else was produced. The build orders for that town shall be switched immediately to a culture generating improvement.

Aye, no harm done.

The Culture Department

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Presidential Summary
What a turn chat! After the two-hour preturn, in which there were a handful of spot council votes concerning build queues, the chat got underway and things started getting smoother. We didn't really have a chance at threatening the record for a turn chat, but during that preturn, I was getting a little worried. ;)

Not much else happened though except for a successful stint of urban development and the implementation of the revised Plan A. Our military forces are growing as expected and we are now training musketeers as we have connected our trade network to saltpeter. We have also connected gems and are ready to start trading them to the highest bidders.

The Great Irrigation Project has resumed and plains to the northwest of Tlaxcala have already started receiving water. Even the irrigation from Lake Victory outside of Bavaria will reach Kuhkaff next turn. All across the land, fields are receiving water where before they had none. Our cities can grow like never before!