View Full Version : NANES I: The World At War


naervod
Jan 11, 2003, 05:16 PM
Welcome to my first regular NES. This is a slightly alternate history version of WW2. there are 20 playable nations. I will start when 10 spots are filled. I will NPC the rest.

Map

A square or circle will represent a city. With black lines representing provincial/sea/national borders. Units will be kept track of on the map as numbers then the unit type. If there is no room, missing units will be posted in the thread.
On land:
I=Infantry
T=Tank
A=Artillery
F=Fighter
B=Bomber

At sea:
AC=Aircraft Carrier
T=Transport (number of units inside known only to player)
D=Destroyer
B=Battleship
S=Submarine

Movement
Switzerland and Nepal are impassable
A naval unit may move through the following seas that may look impassable because of land obstructions:
Gulf of Panama to Carribean Sea:
Aegean Sea to Black Sea
North Sea to Baltic Sea
Aegean Sea to Red Sea.
Also, the bit of land east of Cairo and west of Palestine is considered part of the Cairo (CAI) province. The land south of Panama and north of Colombia is considered part of the Panama (PAN) province

Units may move, but not attack on the turn they are built.

Although they are not marked, there are cities in Finland (FIN) and Arabia (ARA)

Income
Provinces give you 3 credits and cities give you an additional 3 credits. Your income is then halved after it is totaled to represent the fact that a nation could not double its treasury in one season. The max amount able to be in a treasury is 100g

Combat
Combat will be based on the Axis & Allies system. Each unit has its own defense and attack value. Each value represents which number (or lower) a unit needs to roll on a 6-sided dice to get a hit. If a hit is scored one unit is taken out of combat. Before a defending unit is taken out of coombat and after all the attackers have fired, then it is the defense's turn to fire back in the same manner, except that the any attacking units hit are automatically taken out of the game. After combat is done and all units are removed the controller of the province is determined. If there are no units on either side left in the province or the defender has units left, then the defender controls the province. If the attacker has units left, then he controls the province. Combat at sea works exactly the same way except there are no provinces, just seas.

Special Combat Rules
Submarine: At the beginning of each naval battle, each attacking submarine gets a sneak attack unless there are enemy destroyers present. If a submarine scores a sucessful hit, an enemy ship is automatically taken out without a chance to fire back.

Battleship: Battleships need two hits to be sunk.

Shore Bombardment: A battleship may bombard a costal province to take out enemy units their. (Hint/Note: If used in conjunction with an amphibious assault, a defending unit hit by shore bombardment is automatically taken out.)

Artillery: An Infantry unit's attack value is upgraded to two when paired with an artillery unit.

Units
Infantry:
Cost- 3c
Attack- 1
Defense-2
Movement-1

Tank:
Cost- 6c
Attack- 3
Defense-2
Movement- 2

Artillery:
Cost- 4c
Attack- 2
Defense-2
Movement-1


Fighter:
Cost- 12c
Attack- 3
Defense- 4
Movement- 4

Bomber:
Cost- 15c
Attack-4
Defense-1
Movement-6


Aircraft Carrier:
Cost- 18c
Attack- 1
Defense- 3
Movement- 2
(Note: 2 Fighters or one bomber may be held on an Aircraft Carrier.)

Destroyer:
Cost- 15c
Attack- 3
Defense- 3
Movement- 3

Battleship:
Cost- 24c
Attack-4
Defense- 4
Movement- 2

Submarine:
Cost- 12g
Attack-2 (see First Strike rule)
Defense-2
Movement- 2

Transport:
Cost- 6g
Attack- 0
Defense- 1
Movement- 2
(Note: May carry 2 Infantry, 2 Artillery, or a combination of the two OR one tank)


You may purchase cities for 15c each. They do not move. Cities give you added income and let you build units in that province. They do not move.

Nations
Major Powers
USA:
Player- The_newbie
Starting Treasury- 72c
Income- 36 cpt

Germany:
Player- Dexter
Starting Treasury- 81c
Income- 40 cpt

Japan:
Player- Sheep2
Starting Treasury- 78c
Income-39cpt

USSR:
Player- Heine
Starting Treasury- 90c
Income- 45cpt

Britain:
Player- Erik Mesoy
Starting Treasury-100c
Income- 50cpt

Vichy France:
Player- Toasty
Starting Treasury-78c
Income- 39 cpt

Secondary Powers
Italy
Player-
Starting Treasury- 27c
Income- 13cpt

China:
Player- Sgt. Hellfish
Starting Treasury- 36c
Income- 18cpt

Turkey:
Player-
Starting Treasury- 30c
Income- 15cpt

Australia:
Player- Kenelley
Starting Treasury- 39c
Income- 14 cpt

Canada:
Player-
Starting Treasury- 27c
Income: 13 cpt

Brazil:
Player- erez87
Starting Treasury- 27c
Income- 13cpt

Colombia:
Player-
Starting Treasury- 27c
Income-13cpt

Mexico:
Player-
Starting Treasury-30c
Income- 15cpt

Central American Pact:
Player- AugSan
Starting Treasury-30c
Income- 15cpt

Minor Powers
Spain:
Player-
Starting Treasury- 12c
Income- 6 cpt

Argentina:
Player-
Starting Treasury-12c
Income- 6cpt

Sattelite States:
Player-
Starting Treasury- 12c
Income- 6cpt

Saudi Arabia:
Player-
Starting Treasury-6c
Income- 3cpt

Finland:
Player-
Starting Treasury-6c
Income- 3cpt

Updates will come every two days once 10 nations are filled. Enjoy!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/nanes1.GIF

Toasty
Jan 11, 2003, 05:24 PM
Vichy France:
Player- Toasty
Starting Treasury-78c
Income- 39 cpt

Erik Mesoy
Jan 11, 2003, 08:15 PM
Ill start as Britain.
Starting treasury-100c
Income: 50 cpt.

Sheep
Jan 11, 2003, 10:23 PM
Japan

Kennelly
Jan 12, 2003, 04:27 AM
What are the Satellite States?All the white ones,so Sweden,Ireland,Venezuela etc? If not,what can we do with them?

Sheep
Jan 12, 2003, 04:45 AM
Hey a quick question are we supposed to play like it happened in ww2

Heine
Jan 12, 2003, 05:53 AM
I'l take USSR.

And some questions:
Shall orders be PMed?
Do we begin in war with someone??
What do the White provinces mean???

Sheep
Jan 12, 2003, 05:56 AM
Pmed orders would bee good I think
War I don;t know I was hoping you would help me as an imperialist, and forget that communist bull****
WHite i think means Satelite State?

Dexter
Jan 12, 2003, 07:12 AM
I'll play as Germany please :D

The_Newbie
Jan 12, 2003, 08:10 AM
I'll be USA.
BTW what turn order will be used (ie. when will production, moving etc. be done?)

erez87
Jan 12, 2003, 10:52 AM
Italy and China as secondary nations?
Britian that control somalia? (it's itlaian)?
and if the war against france started so vietnam should be japanies.
I'll join after i'll think what secondary nation i will be...

naervod
Jan 12, 2003, 01:48 PM
As I said in the above post it is alternate history. Germany only invaded France and Scadanavia. Japan hasn't come into the war yet. Britain pused the Italians back into Eritrea and Ethiopia. Now it is temporarily peace. All nations start at peace. Orders will be PMed with production movement and attacks.

White means neutral countries. You may invade neutral countries, but they will have two Infantry and a Fighter defending them. Sattelite states are purple, Hungary Romania and Bulgaria.

I decided the national levels based on income and territories, not on their real life role.

Kennelly
Jan 12, 2003, 02:12 PM
Can new units attack or not? (sorry,if I missed it in the rules)

Sheep
Jan 12, 2003, 06:41 PM
I edon;t think they can

naervod
Jan 12, 2003, 07:18 PM
I think I mentioned in the rules, but no, new units can't attack.

Sgt.Hellfish
Jan 13, 2003, 09:41 AM
Ill take China

AugSan
Jan 13, 2003, 11:18 AM
Could I be the Central American Pact?

Heine
Jan 13, 2003, 01:23 PM
Orders sent.

To Britain, Germany and Japan:
Lets sign an alliance.

Kennelly
Jan 13, 2003, 02:06 PM
Sorry for two other questions:One province per turn as movement?Units being built everywhere or only in cities?

I'll command Australia (9th player now,1 more to go).

The_Newbie
Jan 13, 2003, 03:11 PM
Before I submit my orders, I need to know one thing. Are there any starting units, and if so, where?

naervod
Jan 13, 2003, 04:48 PM
Kenelly:
Check the movement stats on the unit entries
Units built only in cities

The Newbie:
No starting units

Erik Mesoy
Jan 13, 2003, 10:21 PM
From: Britain
To: USSR (Heine)
I accept

To: Japan and Germany
I agree with Heine's suggestion.

Erik Mesoy
Jan 14, 2003, 03:04 AM
OOC:
Kennely, there is no Australia player.
Australia the continent is British.

Kennelly
Jan 14, 2003, 03:13 AM
OOC:No,it's not British it's in the nation list and I already took it confirmedly.

Erik Mesoy
Jan 14, 2003, 03:35 AM
Then we need some better colors. Australia is maybe 1% lighter than England, and I can barely see difference with my monitor on max light.

Sheep
Jan 14, 2003, 03:48 AM
To USSR, and Britain: We will agree to this if no one inteferes with Japanese movements in China.

Dexter
Jan 14, 2003, 06:38 AM
To: Britain and the USSR
From: Germany
We reject your alliance proposal, we have no interest in an allaince with either Britain or Russia.

Erik Mesoy
Jan 14, 2003, 07:42 AM
From: Britain
To: Japan
I want to get TIB, USSR should get TIB, you can get the rest of China. I hope this does not count as interfering?

From: Britain
To: Germany
I understand. No hard feelings?

Sgt.Hellfish
Jan 14, 2003, 08:44 AM
To the world: help

erez87
Jan 14, 2003, 10:55 AM
I take Brazil, orders will be sent in a minute

Heine
Jan 14, 2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Erik Mesoy
From: Britain
To: Japan
I want to get TIB, USSR should get TIB, you can get the rest of China. I hope this does not count as interfering?

To Britain:
Who shall get TIB said you???
I want XIN.

To China:
No, help from me.

To USA:
Since Germany declined the alliance, I will ask you to join.

Toasty
Jan 14, 2003, 11:29 AM
To: Germany

We wish for the peaceful return of French European lands, and was hoping we could open negotiations of it with you.

The_Newbie
Jan 14, 2003, 12:26 PM
Heine: I am afraid I must decline, due toconflicting obligations (such as my promise of support for the Chinese and my alliance with France)

Sgt.Hellfish
Jan 14, 2003, 12:33 PM
I thank the USA for supporting the smaller nations that are threatned by their larger bullylike cousins

The_Newbie
Jan 14, 2003, 12:34 PM
Oops double post.

Heine
Jan 14, 2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by The_Newbie
Heine: I am afraid I must decline, due toconflicting obligations (such as my promise of support for the Chinese and my alliance with France)

I can't see you have writen anything about that.

Originally posted by Naervod
As I said in the above post it is alternate history. Germany only invaded France and Scadanavia. Japan hasn't come into the war yet. Britain pused the Italians back into Eritrea and Ethiopia. Now it is temporarily peace. All nations start at peace. Orders will be PMed with production movement and attacks.

If all begins in peace USA is not in some alliances (they have isolated themselfe from non-American nations)

Heine
Jan 14, 2003, 12:53 PM
When is the update?? :)

naervod
Jan 14, 2003, 01:02 PM
When I get all orders. I will check to see how many I have then edit into here.

The_Newbie
Jan 14, 2003, 01:05 PM
quote:
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Originally posted by The_Newbie
Heine: I am afraid I must decline, due toconflicting obligations (such as my promise of support for the Chinese and my alliance with France)
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I can't see you have writen anything about that.

These agreements were made via PM.


quote:
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Originally posted by Naervod
As I said in the above post it is alternate history. Germany only invaded France and Scadanavia. Japan hasn't come into the war yet. Britain pused the Italians back into Eritrea and Ethiopia. Now it is temporarily peace. All nations start at peace. Orders will be PMed with production movement and attacks.
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If all begins in peace USA is not in some alliances (they have isolated themselfe from non-American nations)

But is not prohibited from making them.

naervod
Jan 14, 2003, 01:09 PM
Basically anyone can make an alliance with anyone they want. Also, I have orders from:

Heine
AugSan
The_Newbie
Sheep2
Sgt. Hellfish
Dexter
erez87
Erik Mesoy

I need orders from:
Toasty

Heine
Jan 14, 2003, 01:20 PM
8 orders, I think you can update from that.

Dexter
Jan 14, 2003, 01:21 PM
To: Vichy France
From: Germany
No such deal can be discussed at the present time. I suggest you keep to our current peace agreement and remain neutral in our affairs.

To: Italy
From: Germany
I would like to offer to renew our alliance.

Sgt.Hellfish
Jan 14, 2003, 01:24 PM
OOC: (whats OOC mean anyway) I dunno i might last longer if he dosnt update

Dexter
Jan 14, 2003, 01:27 PM
OOC means Out Of Character, just a way of being lazy really :p

Toasty
Jan 14, 2003, 01:58 PM
To: Germany

While we can appreciate your desire to continue the temporary military occupation of French lands, know that it will not last forever, and that if you are wise you should seek to accomodate us moreso than alienate us.

Toasty
Jan 14, 2003, 01:58 PM
Sorry all! Orders sent.

erez87
Jan 14, 2003, 02:06 PM
so there will be an update today? (I mean while i'm still awak?)

oh yes and
from brazil:
to USA:
would you sign an alliance with us?

Sgt.Hellfish
Jan 14, 2003, 02:28 PM
to brazil will you sign an alliance with the mighty nation of China

The_Newbie
Jan 14, 2003, 02:53 PM
erez87: I agree.

Kennelly
Jan 14, 2003, 02:56 PM
To:Britain,Canada and USA
From:Australia

We'd like to revive our friendship from the Great War and to sign an alliance with you.

naervod
Jan 14, 2003, 04:49 PM
I have received all orders and will be updating later tonight. I find that my system of PMing those who have not sent orders works well.

Heine- As only half the nations were taken, I wanted all of the orders to be in anyways.

Sheep
Jan 14, 2003, 06:51 PM
To Australia
From Japan: Ally with us and we shall forever rule our region not the technocrats in London

naervod
Jan 15, 2003, 12:23 PM
Sorry for not updating, I was kicked off the computer halfway thru the update. Also, it turned out I didn't have orders from AugSan, and I didn't find them till this morning. I am at school now, but will finish updating tonight.

Heine
Jan 15, 2003, 01:20 PM
AugSan send orders quick our I will chruch your countrey.

P.S:
Wich countrey are AugSan??

The_Newbie
Jan 15, 2003, 01:40 PM
The Central American Pact.

Heine
Jan 15, 2003, 02:14 PM
Okay, I can stop the joking ;) but AugSan please send your orders I really want this to begin :)

naervod
Jan 15, 2003, 02:33 PM
lol, I have AugSan's orders, I am just not home. Update will come tonight.

naervod
Jan 15, 2003, 10:56 PM
Military bildups come all over the world. No major events


Some USA builds in Alaska and the Bering were not carried out due to overspending. You only got your starting treasury, not you income added to that. British city builds were also waived for the same reason


Treasury
USA- 38c
Germany- 40c
Japan- 39c
USSR- 51c
Vichy France- 42c
China- 18c
Brazil- 13c
Australia- 19c
Central America-15c
Britain-66c


France
Mar-3 Infantry, 1 Tank
Bor- 3 Infantry


Britain
Gla- 1 Infantry
Edi- 1 Infantry
Lon- 1 Infantry
Pal- 1 Infantry
Cey- 1 Infantry
Ban- 1 Infantry
Mls- 1 Infantry
Sg- 1 Infantry

Germany
5 Infantry in Paris
3 Infantry in NAN
2 Infantry in Belgium
1 Infantry in Denmark
2 Infantry in Berlin
1 Infantry in BRE
1 Infantry in Czechosolvakia

Central America
4 Artillery- HON


America does not have transports or artillery in the Bering/Alaska
Ships in Bismark are Australian


http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/nomad land1.gif

naervod
Jan 15, 2003, 10:57 PM
Map does not seem to be working. Will get it fixed tomorrow as it is late now.

Erik Mesoy
Jan 16, 2003, 02:21 AM
Some of my cities must have been built, but since I cant see the map... I have 66. Income of 50. So I had 16 left from last turn, where I started with 100. Did I spend 84 building 8 infantry???

naervod
Jan 16, 2003, 11:20 AM
You built 28 infantry. One in each city.

erez87
Jan 16, 2003, 11:22 AM
why my builds havn't been writen?
anyhow, orders sooner than you think...

erez87
Jan 16, 2003, 11:23 AM
oh yes and only now saw:
To China:
We accept the alliance.

Heine
Jan 16, 2003, 11:50 AM
Waiting for the map.

naervod
Jan 16, 2003, 01:21 PM
Can't do it till I get home. That is 2 hours.

erez87
Jan 16, 2003, 01:24 PM
just trying to upload the map...
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/nomad_land1.gif

Sgt.Hellfish
Jan 16, 2003, 02:18 PM
wow i hav invisble armies or do i have them just it looks like SI

Kennelly
Jan 16, 2003, 02:57 PM
So the 19c you gave me on page 3 are my 5g banked and my 14g income?But I built a city,so my income should be higher,not?

naervod
Jan 16, 2003, 03:41 PM
True, I have not yet added city incomes yet. You start getting the city money next turn, as a city just built cannot give you income.

Sgt. Hellfish

check the list to see if armies you built are on that list.

Also, thanks erez for the map uploading the map. I was just about to attach it.

Sgt.Hellfish
Jan 17, 2003, 08:42 AM
It says i have 18c therefore they have been built, no mention of them tho and im not sure if they are my armies

AugSan
Jan 17, 2003, 02:45 PM
Naevrod:
You have made no record that I, like Enron, have kept improper accounts. You have published my starting treasury and I have given you every detail of my spending policy. I have 4 Infantry and 4 Artillery in HON, not one of either group. The keyword is and. And meaning I have 4 Infantry as well as, alongisde the 4 Artillery. I did this because of the attack bonus afforded by an Infantry/Artillery combination. If you have exempted them from the map because they would not fit into the image, I have no qualms as long as you recognise their existence.

naervod
Jan 17, 2003, 06:00 PM
For Christ's sake everyone, look at the map.

Sgt. Hellfish. Your armies are there look closely
AugSan- Look at the list. It says you have 4 Artillery in HON the map says you have 4I.

Also, I have two orders. The update was supposed to be today. I am extending the deadline to 12PM PST tomorrow.

Kennelly
Jan 18, 2003, 06:12 AM
To:Japan
From:Australia

We'd only sign an alliance with you if you'd end your aggressive war in China.

To:USA,Canada and Britain

We await your answer to our alliance offer eagerly.

naervod
Jan 18, 2003, 12:59 PM
I have 6 orders. If I don't have at least 8 orders soon, this will close and I will start a new story NES.

Erik Mesoy
Jan 18, 2003, 01:15 PM
I sent orders... who are you missing?

Dexter
Jan 18, 2003, 01:26 PM
I'm sorry Naervod but I'm going to have to quit this NES. Some things have come up and I'm way too busy to be playing three NES's at once. Also this is the hardest one to do orders for.

Sorry everyone :(

Heine
Jan 18, 2003, 02:23 PM
Don't quit.

naervod
Jan 18, 2003, 02:25 PM
Sorry to see you go Dexter :(.

I am missing orders from Toasty, AugSan, and The_newbie. Send them in

naervod
Jan 18, 2003, 06:22 PM
As interest seems to be lacking and I can't update due to lack of orders even though it is a day past the deadline, I will be forced to close this NES. I will start stNANES2 later on tonight or tomorrow as I find that story NESes are more fun to mod than boardgame ones. I invite you all to join my NES just get the orders in!!!
Also, I find Photoshop too complicated so I will be using Paint for the NES, which will make updates go much faster.

The_Newbie
Jan 19, 2003, 04:51 PM
Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.

Revolutionairy
Jan 19, 2003, 04:57 PM
Classic Alpha Centauri quote!!

naervod
Jan 19, 2003, 06:02 PM
Lol, The Newbie:

You didn't even send orders in, that is part of the reason why I closed. come and join stNANES2 starting tonight.