View Full Version : SK1 : an Honourable PBEM.


Skyfish
Jan 15, 2003, 05:40 AM
This thread is to set up a PBEM game following Honourable rules as edicted in Realms Beyond.
http://www.realmsbeyond.net/civ/

Final roster :
Skyfish (GMT +1)
Plux (GMT +1)
Killer M (GMT ?)
KingBob (GMT -5)
DogBoy (GMT -8)


We hope we can organize some "power sessions" in the build up phase of the game (even though we are a bit spread over the time zones here...).

We will include some AIs and will use Melifluous trick to set them up at Emperor level.

Let's discuss on the conditions of the game in this thread and then use it to keep track of each other.

DogBoy
Jan 15, 2003, 09:14 AM
Skyfish, I'm free for just about any condition.

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 15, 2003, 10:13 AM
Can i join?

Plux
Jan 15, 2003, 11:27 AM
If five players are ok with you guys, I would like to join too..

Timezone: GMT+1
Civ: Random

Skyfish
Jan 15, 2003, 12:36 PM
Killer and Plux gladly welcomed.

My ideas :
- Pangea (with continent I feel one of us could get left out for a long time, negating a bit the fun of diplo with other humans.)
- Standard size.
- 60% water.
- All victory conditions enabled.
- 3 AIs at Emperor level. (random)
- no acc. production.
- Random conditions for the rest

I would like to have only PTW civs if possible to keep it new.

Any other ideas ?

DogBoy
Jan 15, 2003, 12:42 PM
Skyfish, Everything sounds good to me. I haven't tried the carthigians or the celts yet so I will play either one of them if that's ok.

Skyfish
Jan 15, 2003, 12:49 PM
OK I will have the Arabs or Ottomans.

Let's have everyone's email and civ preferences so we can start before the week-end OK ?
Mine : julienv_AT_planet.nl

Killer M, I need your time zone for the playing order .

jhigham
Jan 15, 2003, 02:00 PM
I'm interested although it looks like you're closed up. stagnate at bigsky.net - Carthage or Ottomans
GMT -7

hotrod0823
Jan 15, 2003, 02:50 PM
Are you set on having the AI or can u add another. Read over all RBCiv but didn't have a chance to respond.

If you are full up no problem !

PM if you have a spot and I will send you my email

Hotrod

I Would like a random civ and I am EST GMT -5.

Plux
Jan 15, 2003, 03:13 PM
Everything sounds ok to me, although I always like not knowing the map settings at all (so random pangea/cont/arch) and a bit more water would be nice IMHO.

E-mail: pluxATtweakers.net

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 15, 2003, 03:42 PM
OK, I will have Scandinavia if not taken yet, am GMT +1 ;)

Skyfish
Jan 16, 2003, 07:33 AM
Somehow, I figured that would be the case Killer M !
:) :D ;) :lol:

To the other guys, at the moment we are full but I still need a confirmation from KingBob.
If he does not respond ASAP I'll open one spot to either one of you (we'll toss it I guess).

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 16, 2003, 07:45 AM
Skyfish, which: GMT +1 or that i want Scandinavia?

Skyfish
Jan 16, 2003, 07:50 AM
The Zerkers dude !
Actually I am surprised at GMT+1, are you american ? where are you based ?

Plux
Jan 16, 2003, 08:27 AM
Killer ist ein Berliner

or from the same country anyway.. :)

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 16, 2003, 08:32 AM
I am NOT a bagel with marmalade in it! :mad: ;)


Jawoll!

Skyfish
Jan 16, 2003, 09:33 AM
Gut !

BobTheTerrible
Jan 16, 2003, 02:19 PM
Sorry, internet was down yesterday. Umm, I'm in US eastern time. I'll be Celts or Mongols. If you need any other info, you know my e-mail Skyfish. (i am KingBob

Plux
Jan 17, 2003, 09:11 AM
Do we have to use the workaround for PBEM (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41227) to ensure that difficulty is set properly, like at monarch? You know, for happiness-settings and other player-stuff..

Skyfish
Jan 17, 2003, 01:43 PM
Yes, we do. I will post the game and instructions later tonight.

Skyfish
Jan 17, 2003, 02:28 PM
Final roster :

Skyfish (GMT +1) julienvATplanet.nl /// Ottomans
Plux (GMT +1) pluxATtweakers.net /// Random
Killer M (GMT +1) geology_henryATgmx.net /// Scandinavians
BobTheTerrible (GMT -5) joshcoppolaATadelphia.net /// Mongols
DogBoy (GMT -8) gkrgreeneATearthlink.net /// Carthaginians

AIs : Emperor level, all random.

Conditions :
- Pangea (70% water)
- Standard size.
- All victory conditions enabled.
- no acc. production.
- Random conditions for the rest

Power sessions :
Every Sunday 21h / 9 pm (GMT+1 time), that will be BobTheTerrible 3pm your time and noon for DogBoy.
LET'S TRY TO MAKE THOSE TIMES.
I know the chance is slim we can all make it but let's try our best guys, especially in the beginning.

***********************VERY IMPORTANT ******************

Please us the "workaround" to load your first turn, difficulty is EMPEROR (we will be at Regent diff. but the AIs will be on Emperor).
Follow Melifluous instructions from that thread :
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41227

I have already played the first turn and sent it to Plux.

See you all on Sunday.

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 17, 2003, 03:06 PM
I will very probably NOT make it day after tomorrow, at least nto at 9. I can leave in Ulm at about 19:30 and it is a 100 min drive, so wish me free roads.....

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 18, 2003, 10:23 AM
Oh happy day.....

what a start :D

Skyfish
Jan 18, 2003, 11:04 AM
So you got the file from Plux ?

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 18, 2003, 11:22 AM
yep, and passed it on as instructed ;)

Skyfish
Jan 18, 2003, 12:00 PM
You a good man !
I got a horrible starting location so there you go....

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 18, 2003, 12:08 PM
poor you! I have... IIRC two game on river plus cattle for town 2 and furs close :D

Plux
Jan 18, 2003, 01:24 PM
I started reasonably with at least a river and a luxury nearby..

BobTheTerrible
Jan 18, 2003, 03:10 PM
3pm on Sunday? Sounds good to me. I don't know my schedule for tomoorow but that should be ok. For me, weeknights from like 5-9 are good, but that would be like 3 in the morning for skyfish, right?

Just a question: it doens't matter if we litter this thread with dozens of posts, does it?

BobTheTerrible
Jan 18, 2003, 03:31 PM
Uh oh. I tried to e-mail Lt 'Killer' M a reply for confirming the workaround method, but the following error came up:

" This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
each recipient was rejected.

Recipient: <geology_henry@gmx.net>
Reason: {mx027-rz3} sorry, your envelope sender has been denied (#5.7.1)"

I tried e-mailing twice, and both times this came up. I don't know if this will happen for DogBoy, though. I will try a test e-mail.

For the workaround method, all you do is go to multiplayer games, host a local game, make type PBEM, and set difficulty and load it, right? I read the instructions, but I just want to make sure.

Skyfish
Jan 18, 2003, 04:23 PM
Yeah, go for it , just try !
We should only have to do this the first time.
Plux you know more than me, can you help ?
Killer-M do I have the right adress for you ?

BobTheTerrible
Jan 18, 2003, 04:25 PM
I just replied to his e-mail, as in hit the reply button so email is ok

BobTheTerrible
Jan 18, 2003, 04:34 PM
OK, sent to Dogboy, used the difficulty method fine and e-mail for Dogboy is fine.

May I suggest creating a single name for the game, like "Ahonorablepbem" which "A" is in for alphabetical order. This way we wont have hundreds of saves foating around.

DogBoy
Jan 18, 2003, 04:47 PM
I may not be able to make it this Sunday guys. Like Killer_M I will have a long drive Sunday morning to make it home. I will do my best though :confused:

Skyfish
Jan 18, 2003, 05:03 PM
OK DogBoy just try to load the game the proper way and send it to me ASAP.
BoB, I thought there was already a single name starting with "SK1", let me check when I get the game back.

Well the problem with a power session is that EVERYONE of us needs to be present and play, so if just one of us fails, we can't ahve the session....tricky but just managing a few sessions will be already good to get us going.

OK everyone how does Tuesday night, same time sound ? (9pm GMT)

BobTheTerrible
Jan 18, 2003, 06:03 PM
That would be 3:00 for me? I wouldn't be able to do that. Even thought school gets out at 2:30, I need to take the train and I don't get home 'till 4-ish. But I could do it then, in fact probably 98% of all weeknights. Can we reschedule around that?

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 19, 2003, 04:50 AM
I will make 23:00 here if it goes as it did yesterday, when they were 2 h late in the evening (second day tournament at the same place).....


as for my mail: I have blocked several mail addresses by @xyz.ext because I get enourmous amounts of spam from them. Yours should be OK though :confused:

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 19, 2003, 05:02 AM
Tuesday looks good!

Plux
Jan 19, 2003, 05:11 AM
Tuesday is ok for me too.. I guess we would start between 21.30 and 22.00 then?

BobTheTerrible
Jan 19, 2003, 09:44 AM
For today at 3:00, I cant. Earliest would probably be 5, but tuesday sounds good.

Skyfish
Jan 20, 2003, 10:34 AM
DogBoy !
I need your save man, have you received it from Bob the Terrible ?
Have you played ?
Please send it to me ASAP.

Skyfish
Jan 21, 2003, 03:13 AM
We are just on the first turn of this game and already we go astray.
Please bear in mind that if we play 1 turn perday, this game will last 2 years !
I can not have players being really slow and wasting the game for everyone else...


....so please DogBoy, either you can send me the save today (which is mainly this morning for you) or I will have to let you out of the game. I know it's not nice but it really can't be any other way. It looked like everyone could have a power session tonight but now it could all go wrong because we don't have news from you.

Thanks for giving me news ASAP ! :mad:

Plux
Jan 21, 2003, 11:33 AM
Will there be something happening tonight? My MSN-ID: bramkouwenbergAThotmail.com
ICQ: 25887193

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 21, 2003, 11:37 AM
I'll be there

Skyfish
Jan 21, 2003, 12:29 PM
Well guys I would love for something to happen BUT I have not gotten DogBoy's save so I don't know how to proceed !
Any ideas ?

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 21, 2003, 12:41 PM
who is before him? I don't like the idea of kicking him, as he posted today - maybe the mail didn't reach him....

Plux
Jan 21, 2003, 12:42 PM
I assume you have mailed him already to inform him about tonight's activities. Nothing more you can do then.

Well, seeing that Killer is German, and you and I both live in the Netherlands, we could see how our pings are and just play a mp-game, if Dogboy doesn't show up? You have my msn and icq so just notify me.

Skyfish
Jan 21, 2003, 12:47 PM
I'm definitely up for a quick regicide ! I 've never done it so let's try ! Killer waddya think ?

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 21, 2003, 12:48 PM
well, gimme a few minutes, I am setting up another PBEM atm ;)

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 21, 2003, 12:51 PM
OK, am ready!

I MUST host because of firewall, password will be 'tomcat', will host 'killers game'. Hoin via PTW, not (!) via gamespy!!!!!!

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 21, 2003, 12:53 PM
name is 'Killer_M's_Game'

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 21, 2003, 12:55 PM
could you both turn on your MSN or whatever for chat? ingame is horrible! I am geology_henry@hotmail.com IIRC

DogBoy
Jan 21, 2003, 01:07 PM
I just got home from work for our power session and see everybody is mad at me. I don't have the save.

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 21, 2003, 01:08 PM
DogBoy: great to see you!

Who goes before you....

DogBoy
Jan 21, 2003, 01:10 PM
I got turn one on January 19 and I immediatley sent it to Skyfish. I have not seen turn 2 yet.

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 21, 2003, 01:12 PM
oh-oh..... skyfish????? btw, DogBoy, check PM please ;)

Plux
Jan 21, 2003, 01:13 PM
So Skyfish has it after all?

Plz get to ICQ (25887193)or MSN (bramkouwenbergAThotmail.com) or E-mail (pluxATtweakers.net)

Waiting for Bob now..

Skyfish
Jan 21, 2003, 02:11 PM
Sorry guys but I did not get the save !
DogBoy I am not amad at you maaaan...Sorry about that but I just don't have the save and no news from you.

Could you resend it ?

Skyfish
Jan 21, 2003, 03:54 PM
OK I finally received the save ! All is cool !
Will try to plan another session later in the week...

DogBoy
Jan 21, 2003, 04:13 PM
Guys, sorry but I will be out of town Friday thru Sunday. The power sessions are good for me on the weekends, but not during the week. I came home early from work today but nothing materialized. It will be hard for me to do that again. Remember, I am GMT -8 so evening for some of you guys is noon for me.

BobTheTerrible
Jan 21, 2003, 04:52 PM
Guys I'm really sorry for not responding. I had to re-enter password, which I forgot, even though I put "remember password" on. Anyway, I'm really sorry I wasn't here for the power session (but I will be home the rest of the night). A change of events at school, and a hour drive really set me off. From the looks of it thought, it seems that we really didn't do much today anyway.

On a normal week, weekends would be great. Wednesday and Thursday I can't do (at least at 3 or 4:00), but otherwise, I can make 4:00 on every other weekday.

What does GMT stand for anyway?

DogBoy
Jan 21, 2003, 05:41 PM
Greenwich Mean Time (I think so don't anybody flame me). It's the international date line. It helps when you are trying to plan games and figure out the best times. To figure out where you are go here. http://greenwichmeantime.com/

BobTheTerrible
Jan 21, 2003, 07:39 PM
Ok thanks. I knew "T" was "time", but now it makes sense, Greenwitch being on the international date line.

BTW, who has the turn now? (I haven't gotten mine in like 2 or 3 days.)

Skyfish
Jan 22, 2003, 01:37 PM
OK how's everyone this week-end ?
What about Friday night 8:30 GMT ?????

BobTheTerrible
Jan 22, 2003, 04:24 PM
Friday at 8:30 GMT... that would be 3:30 for Eastern US time? (-5, right?) Or is that 4:30? I can start at like 4:15, I think.

Skyfish: how about e-mailing everyone to tell them to check the forum at least twice a day? Just to see where the turn is. (I still haven't gotten mine yet)

Plux
Jan 22, 2003, 05:05 PM
I just sent the save to Killer. This weekend is prolly no good for me. Friday I can't, Saturday would only be possible until 21.00 GMT

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 23, 2003, 04:34 AM
GPS














got it, played it, sent it ;)

BobTheTerrible
Jan 23, 2003, 02:26 PM
sent

Skyfish
Jan 24, 2003, 12:02 PM
Just FYI turn is now with Plux
good week end all !
:beer: :smoke: :wavey: :yeah: :sleep: :vomit:

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Jan 25, 2003, 03:29 AM
and on........

Skyfish
Jan 26, 2003, 06:05 AM
Again with Plux : that was a fast round ! good job guys...

Plux
Jan 30, 2003, 04:39 AM
I want to let you guys know I will be gone this weekend. From tomorrow around 18.00 GMT until prolly monday or tuesday I won't be able to play my turn.

Plux
Feb 04, 2003, 04:20 PM
I saw I received the save already again. Unluckily, though, I cannot play it before tomorrow night, so have some patience

Skyfish
Feb 07, 2003, 12:47 AM
I also have to leave for the week-end and have not received the save yet so
things might get delayed 'till Monday : SORRY !

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Feb 15, 2003, 10:40 AM
GPS

Skyfish
Feb 15, 2003, 10:45 AM
Hey guys how about a Power Session this week-end ?
i got no response from my last email to you all :(

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Feb 15, 2003, 01:00 PM
Skyfish: I will be here until Sunday 15:00 GMT, but then gone.

DogBoy
Feb 15, 2003, 10:20 PM
This weekend is good with me. It's getting interesting now that I have met several people.

BobTheTerrible
Feb 16, 2003, 11:22 AM
I can be around today at 5:00 or 6:00 my time, would that be 10:00 GMT?

Plux
Feb 16, 2003, 12:03 PM
Although I am at home all evening and ready for a session, I think it's little short time to gather everybody.

Skyfish
Feb 16, 2003, 02:54 PM
Sorry can't do right now, too much last minute.

I have to say I am away for almost all week so sorry if I take longer than normal to play.

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Mar 01, 2003, 03:04 PM
please report your patch status here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46158

Skyfish
Mar 27, 2003, 12:45 PM
Ok all I have FINALLY received the game :confused: but it's patched 1.21 which makes it impossible for me to open.

Let's call it quits OK ?
Sorry it did not work out.

DogBoy
Mar 27, 2003, 01:11 PM
Skyfish, I just sent you an e-mail. Only one of us has ONLY the 1.21f patch. Please read your e-mail and let's keep this game going.

Skyfish
Mar 27, 2003, 01:54 PM
I have sent an email to every one...please answer me.

BobTheTerrible
Mar 27, 2003, 07:07 PM
not me. I dudn't get one

DogBoy
Mar 27, 2003, 07:20 PM
Josh, not to hurt your feelings, but you are the one that stopped the game :( Everybody has 1.14f except you. Since I'm in other games with you and I know you are 1.21f and don't want to go back to 1.14f, I asked Skyfish to continue the game and retire your civ :cry: It was either that or we can't play the game anymore. Except for you and I, all the other players live outside the US.

Skyfish
Mar 28, 2003, 02:54 AM
Yes but even some Europeans have 1.21 patch so we need to get feedback from them as well...

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Mar 28, 2003, 03:07 AM
I can play both

Skyfish
Mar 28, 2003, 04:53 AM
Just waiting to hear from Plux now...maybe it's in my email at home, so we'll have to wait a bit more.

DogBoy
Mar 28, 2003, 07:50 AM
Skyfish, I don't know where Plux is, but I think he's moving. I'm in other PBEM games with him and all those games are stopped...with Plux. Several people have said they think he's moving, but don't know when he will be back.

BobTheTerrible
Mar 28, 2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by DogBoy
Since I'm in other games with you and I know you are 1.21f and don't want to go back to 1.14f,

Did I ever say I didn't want to go back to 1.14f? :confused: I wouldn't mind doing what you and others did- making two ptw folders and patching one. If you have already retired me then that's fine too

BTW, when I got the game I wasn't sure if I should run it patched or not. I was going to post something here and/or email someone but I totally forgot for a while. Then I played/sent the game to DogBoy on 1.21f, I didn't know if we were using it or not. Anyway, sorry for the hold-up guys.

DogBoy
Mar 28, 2003, 07:30 PM
Josh, in our 1v1 game when you patched to 1.21f I asked you if you wanted to go back to 1.14f because I didn't want to patch due to the number of PBEM games I was in. I'm pretty sure you said you didn't want to go back to 1.14f and that's why I created the two different versions on my computer. If I misunderstood, then I'm sorry. Why don't you go ahead and put the 1.14f back on your computer because I'm pretty sure Skyfish hasn't retired your civ yet due to Plux not responding.

On a seperate note, do you want to meet Saturday morning at 6:00am my time and 9:00am your time for a couple hours?

Skyfish
Mar 29, 2003, 12:06 AM
Indeed Killer is ready to rmuble as usual, but still have not heard from Plux : no-one has been retired yet of course !
:)

BobTheTerrible
Mar 29, 2003, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by DogBoy
I'm pretty sure you said you didn't want to go back to 1.14f and that's why I created the two different versions on my computer.

Actually, I would have went back if you hadn't gotten both to work on yours anyway. I wasn't sure if I had to reinstall PTW or anything, or if it would even accept the older patch, so that's why I might have seemed reluctant. I actually was about to ask you how in the next email, but then you said that you got both working. To further complicate things my friend and I have a 1vs1 on 1.21f, so I'll have to do what you did. Now if I knew how to get the old patch on in the first place, that could help too, so can someone please tell me how??

Plux
Mar 31, 2003, 07:06 AM
Hi guys,

First of all I'd like to say sorry for holding up this game. Since two weeks I've moved and for now have no internet at the new home, that's why I've been so silent. Also, yesterday I came back from a week of snowboarding in the French Alps, and wasn't even able to play civ3 at all. Today is my first day back at the uni, and I'll take the save with me, and hope to send it on tomorrow or the day after. I think it'll take at least 3 to 4 weeks to get internet at my new place, so I will prolly still continue to slow down progression, but I promise to try to play every turn in two or three days. Again, I'm very sorry to hold up the various PBEM's im in and hope to be back @ full online strength asap ;) Of course I'll stick with playing with 1.14

Lt. 'Killer' M.
Mar 31, 2003, 07:24 AM
plux: good to hear you are still alive and healthy! :)