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Shabbaman
Jan 17, 2003, 05:52 AM
I, Sir Shabbaman of Anthrax, welcome thee to The Academy of Noble and Martial Skills. Our facility is located in the beautiful Seabrake countryside. Secluded to allow our students the concentration they need but close enough to Valhalla to allow them to keep in touch with the world when needed. Our instructors are the finest available in their fields and will work tirelessly to provide you with the skill advancement you need in these violent and uncertain times.

Tuition is set at 20g per class taken. Our instructors are very well paid, receiving 50g per class taught. The headmaster receives 20% of overal teachings.

If you are interested in taking a class or being an instructor, please post your request in this thread. The headmaster receives 20% of overal teachings.

At your service,

Shabbaman, Headmaster

Class Schedules

From friday, 24th of january, the new Powder classes are open! There's a Marksmanship class, where Veera Anlai and Snow teach both rifles and pistols. This class cost twice the normal tuition cost. Besides Marksmanship class, there are also classes for Rifles and Pistols. We accept applications for these teaching jobs.

Note, that students can't take the Marksmanship and Rifles and/or Pistols classes simultaneously.

The final rostrum


CLASS / TEACHER
Main Sub- Est. New
Student Skill Skill gain sub

ARMORED - DEFENSE jdd2007
7.2 8
Donovan 7.8 12.18 0.18 12.36
naervod 4.7 10.55 0.11 10.66
Plexus 3 9.29 0.09 9.38

SHIELD - DEFENSE naervod
4.7 8.15
Donovan 7.8 11.68 0.21 11.89
Octav X 2 7.45 0.14 7.59
Plexus 3 9.35 0.09 9.44

UNARMORED - DEFENSE Donovan
7.8 8.25
Cyc 2 8.43 0.09 8.52
Padma 5 11.9 0.07 11.97
Plexus 3 8.82 0.12 8.94
Snow 2 7.86 0.12 7.98
Veera 2 8 0.11 8.11

STEEPLECHASE - HORSEMANSHIP Cyc FULL!
9.6 7
CT 4.7 9.36 0.12 9.48
Donovan 4 9.54 0.07 9.61
gunning 5 10.1 0.1 10.2
naervod 3 9.1 0.05 9.15
Octav X 4 10.05 0.05 10.1
Padma 3 8 0.1 8.1
Shabba 5 6.59 0.27 6.86

PRECISION - HORSEMANSHIP CT
4.7 7
gunning 5 10.1 0.1 10.2
Plexus 2 7.38 0.08 7.46
Snow 4 6.72 0.21 6.93

SPEED - HORSEMANSHIP Strider
7.7 13
CT 4.7 12.54 0.26 12.8
Cyc 9.6 18.98 0.02 19
gunning 5 16 0.1 16.1
jdd2007 10 18.72 0.21 18.93
Snow 4 12.25 0.24 12.49

MELEE - WEAPONRY Plexus
10.2 15.5
Donovan 3 15.51 0.15 15.66
eyrei 3 17 0.08 17.08
jdd2007 3 17.51 0.05 17.56
naervod 3 16.57 0.1 16.67
Snow 1 10.33 0.31 10.64

RANGED - WEAPONRY Padma
6.5 4.5
CT 3 7.05 0.02 7.07
CivGen 2 6.11 0.02 6.13
Plexus 10.2 10.97 0.03 11

HURLED - WEAPONRY Octav X
8.6 6
Cyc 3 7.61 0.07 7.68
Snow 1 5.1 0.1 5.2

ENGINEERING - WARFARE Shabba
19.1 6
Donovan 3 6.43 0.13 6.56
jdd2007 4 8.46 0.08 8.54

STRATEGY - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
19.1 6
CivGen 3 7.61 0.07 7.68
Cyc 3 7.68 0.07 7.75
Donovan 3 7.58 0.07 7.65
jdd2007 4 8.68 0.07 8.75
naervod 3 7.29 0.09 7.38
Padma 3 8.37 0.03 8.4

TACTICS - WARFARE Shabba
19.1 6
CivGen 3 7.46 0.08 7.54
Cyc 3 7.68 0.07 7.75
Donovan 3 6.68 0.12 6.8
naervod 3 7.1 0.1 7.2

TRACKING - HUNTING CT
7.6 4
CivGen 3 4.68 0.12 4.8
Cyc 3 4.82 0.11 4.93
Snow 1 3.81 0.06 3.87

SNARES - HUNTING CT
7.6 4
CivGen 3 4.43 0.13 4.56

STEALTH - HUNTING Padma FULL!
5.5 4
CT 7.6 8.48 0.16 8.64
Cyc 3 4.95 0.05 5
CivGen 3 4.43 0.13 4.56

AVIAN - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.25
0.26 0.26

CANINE - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.5

EQUINE - HUSBANDRY Veera
3.8 5
CT 2 6.1 0.05 6.15
Octav X 3 5.52 0.12 5.64

EQUINE - EXOTIC Shabba
1 1
0.05 0.05

POWDERS - PISTOLS Donovan

POWDERS - RIFLES Vacant

POWDERS - CHARGES Veera
6.3 3
Dis 3 4.91 0.05 4.96
Shabba 5 6.2 0.09 6.29

POWDERS - MARKSMANSHIP Snow&Veera
Rifles
5.00
CivGen 3.00 5.56 0.12 5.68
Dis 3.00 5.15 0.14 5.29
jdd2007 3.00 5.15 0.14 5.29
Padma 4.00 6.15 0.14 6.29
Shabba 5.00 6.00 0.20 6.20
Pistols
5.00
CivGen 3.00 5.56 0.12 5.68
Dis 3.00 5.15 0.14 5.29
jdd2007 3.00 5.15 0.14 5.29
Padma 5.00 6.39 0.18 6.57
Shabba 5.00 6.00 0.20 6.20



Rules
Please read the rules on character stats here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=565646#post565646)
Any discussion on the rules, or questions on the character stats, should take place in the character stats thread.

Summary
__________________
A trainer may have as many students at one time as he has levels in the subskill he is teaching.
A character can be in a maximum of 8 classes as student or teacher at one time.


A tribute to Shaitan, the late prince of Vanir and founder of the Academy
An excerpt from his will:
"The Academy is more of an institution than it ever was a business. As such I will make of it an independent institution with all of the Lords of Fanatika as its Board of Regents. None will be required to sit on the board but all noble landowners will be made welcome. The seat of chairman shall be reserved for the Prince of Vanir or the Prince of Klein Vanir. The Academy shall be granted working capital of 1000g as dispensation from this will. Any accumulation of funds over 2000g should be used to defray education costs for the students. The starting charter will include a salary for the Headmaster (CEO/manager) in the amount of 20% of overall tuitions. Said Headmaster will have complete control of the day to day running of The Academy but will obey directives from the Board. The current Headmaster shall remain in his position through this change and may only be removed by a majority vote of the Board."

CivGeneral
Jan 17, 2003, 06:33 PM
I am interested in taking the following classes

TRACKING - HUNTING
SNARES - HUNTING
STEALTH - HUNTING

Strider
Jan 17, 2003, 07:19 PM
Ok... A question... Cyc's speed skill is now higher than mine.... Can I still teach him or something?

Zarn
Jan 17, 2003, 07:25 PM
Srategy Warfare and Tactics warfare please
horsemanship- all 3
I definately don't need melee, though.

Cyc
Jan 17, 2003, 07:42 PM
Greetings Shabbaman. Please take me out of your Engineering class and put me in CT's Hunting class. I'm not sure what I'll learn there, but I'll be able to see CT's skills. Thank you.

Strider
Jan 17, 2003, 07:46 PM
I wish to enroll in Precision, Steeplechase, Stratagy, Engerneering, Tatics, Canine, and Equine.

gunning1
Jan 17, 2003, 10:29 PM
I'll join tracking class.

Shabbaman
Jan 20, 2003, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by Strider
Ok... A question... Cyc's speed skill is now higher than mine.... Can I still teach him or something?

I've wondered that myself, so please correct me if I'm wrong (I've got the same 'problem' in warfare class). Your skill on the ability in question is main skill plus subskill. In your case, your speed skill would be 5.4+12.25=17.65. For Cyc, this would be 7+12.7=19.7...

Hmmm...

That's definately a problem.

Well, through the rules, Cyc can learn, but it hasn't as much effect. Perhaps we should have a discussion on this... I propose that a student can't learn when main+sub is higher than that of the teacher (main+sub instead of just sub, since teachers can only raise main skill...)

The discussion should take place in the new character stats thread that I'm about to open:)

Shabbaman
Jan 20, 2003, 04:48 AM
@zarn: you can't enlist to the academy untill you've defined your character skills! Free advice: invest heavily in the new powder skills, that way you'll always have an advantage.
@strider: I'm sorry, but strategy class if full.
@cyc: could you clarify what hunting class you want to follow? There are three different classes... Or do you want to take them all? Do you have a specific reason you want to spent that much time with chieftess;)

Note to all: don't forget to distribute your new skill points! The Academy also needs teachers for the new powder skills!

jdd2007
Jan 20, 2003, 10:35 AM
i think if a student surpasses their teacher by at least a point, they should be offered the position.

Veera Anlai
Jan 20, 2003, 10:55 AM
I'm interested in becoming a teacher in the Powder: Pistol and Powder: Rifle skills ^_^

Cyc
Jan 21, 2003, 01:16 AM
Shabbaman - I would like to take both of CT's Hunting classes. I'm already in Padma's Hunting class, so these extra classes should help me learn the ropes ;) .

Also, I was wondering if you'd like to have me as Instructor for a second Steeplechase - Horsemanship class. Could be more gold for you...

Shabbaman
Jan 21, 2003, 02:57 AM
Veera, I'll hold the appointment until the end of the term, or until everybody has distributed his points. I keep your offer under consideration.

Cyc, you're in both classes. That means that there's an opening in Engineering class.

Jdd, you've got a point, but that should count only to the total skill difference: teachers can only upgrade main skill.

Strider
Jan 21, 2003, 05:00 PM
I'd be perfectly happy to give-up my spot as the Speed teacher in favor of a better, but I believe it would be almost point-less. I being the horse-racer that I am will join the class and the sitution will be back again with cyc the teacher and me the student.

Strider
Jan 21, 2003, 05:02 PM
Here's something that I just thought of.... Why not make TWO speed class's? One tought by me and one tought by Cyc? The speed course is one of the favoriates of the acadamy and having two might be an advantage.

Shabbaman
Jan 22, 2003, 03:18 AM
Brilliant, strider!

Ehm, actually, that's almost exactly what Cyc proposed, but I'm glad you're with him. If enough people show up for the class, I have no objection.

Wouldn't it be an idea to split classes in an advanced and an intermediate class?

Shabbaman
Jan 22, 2003, 09:08 AM
CLASS / TEACHER
Main Sub- Est. New
Student Skill Skill gain sub

ARMORED - DEFENSE jdd2007
4.6 8
Donovan 5.7 6.73 0.27 7
naervod 3 7.57 0.17 7.74
Plexus 2 7 0.15 7.15

SHIELD - DEFENSE jdd2007
4.6 8
BCLG100 2 7 0.15 7.15
CivGen 3 7.2 0.19 7.39
Donovan 5.7 4.93 0.07 5
naervod 3 7.57 0.17 7.74
Octav X 1 2.35 0.33 2.68
Plexus 2 7 0.15 7.15

UNARMORED - DEFENSE Donovan
5.7 8.25
BCLG100 2 7.31 0.15 7.46
Cyc 1 6 0.16 6.16
gonzo 2 6.21 0.2 6.41
Padma 5 8.98 0.02 9
Plexus 2 5.26 0.25 5.51

STEEPLECHASE - HORSEMANSHIP gonzo FULL!
3.7 7
CT 3 6 0.2 6.2
Donovan 3 5.93 0.07 6
gunning 4 6 0.25 6.25
naervod 3 6.9 0.1 7
Octav X 4 7.74 0.16 7.9
Padma 2 3.86 0.14 4
Strider 5.5 2.75 0.25 3

PRECISION - HORSEMANSHIP jdd2007
4.7 6.31
CT 3 6.48 0.14 6.62
gonzo 3.7 6.2 0.19 6.39
gunning 4 6.22 0.2 6.42
Plexus 2 3.76 0.23 3.99
Strider 5.5 5.34 0.32 5.66

SPEED - HORSEMANSHIP Strider
5.5 13
CT 3 4.56 0.44 5
Cyc 7 12.7 0.3 13
gonzo 3.7 9.66 0.34 10
gunning 4 11.51 0.27 11.78
jdd2007 4.7 11.29 0.32 11.61

MELEE - WEAPONRY Plexus
6.7 14.5
BCLG100 3 9.83 0.17 10
Donovan 2 10.64 0.29 10.93
eyrei 3 13.44 0.2 13.64
jdd2007 3 14 0.18 14.18
naervod 2 13 0.18 13.18

RANGED - WEAPONRY Padma
4.4 4.5
CT 3 5.93 0.07 6
CivGen 2 5.15 0.07 5.22
Plexus 6.7 5.85 0.15 6

HURLED - WEAPONRY Octav X
6.5 6
BCLG100 3 5 0.2 5.2
Cyc 2 4.74 0.16 4.9

ENGINEERING - WARFARE Shabba
11.9 5
BCLG100 2 3.2 0.19 3.39
Donovan 2 2.49 0.23 2.72
jdd2007 3 4.9 0.1 5
Strider 3 2 0.3 2.3

STRATEGY - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
11.9 6
BCLG100 2 5.15 0.14 5.29
CivGen 2 4.39 0.18 4.57
Cyc 2 3.49 0.23 3.72
Donovan 2 6 0.1 6.1
jdd2007 3 5.39 0.18 5.57
naervod 2 4 0.2 4.2
Padma 3 6.8 0.11 6.91

TACTICS - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
11.9 6
CivGen 2 4 0.2 4.2
Cyc 2 3.49 0.23 3.72
Donovan 2 3 0.25 3.25
jdd2007 3 6.43 0.13 6.56
naervod 2 3.49 0.23 3.72
Strider 3 3.3 0.29 3.59

TRACKING - HUNTING CT
3.6 4
CivGen 1 2 0.15 2.15
Gunning 2 0.89 0.11 1
Cyc 2 1.49 0.23 1.72

SNARES - HUNTING CT
3.6 4
CivGen 1 2.15 0.14 2.29
Cyc 2 0.3 0.29 0.59

STEALTH - HUNTING Padma FULL!
3.4 4
BCLG100 2 2 0.2 2.2
CT 3.6 5.12 0.12 5.24
Cyc 2 2 0.2 2.2
gunning 2 2.57 0.17 2.74
CivGen 1 1.2 0.19 1.39

AVIAN - HUSBANDRY gunning
3.9 5.25
0.26 0.26

CANINE - HUSBANDRY gunning
3.9 5.5
Strider 3 1.38 0.36 1.74

EQUINE - HUSBANDRY gonzo
3.5 5
CT 1 4.75 0.06 4.81
gunning 3.9 4 0.25 4.25
Octav X 1 1.72 0.21 1.93
Strider 3 5.15 0.14 5.29


The bill will follow!
There was another training this morning, I'll post that results (plus bill;) ) tomorrow!

Shabbaman
Jan 22, 2003, 09:32 AM
With Vanir discount!


Student Tuition
BCLG100 175
CivGen 87.5
CT 75
Cyc 200
Donovan 87.5
eyrei 25
gonzo 37.5
gunning 75
jdd2007 62.5
naervod 75
Octav X 75
Padma 37.5
Plexus 125
Shabba 0
Snow 0
Strider 150
TOTAL 1287.5


Instructor Salary
CT 100
Donovan 50
gonzo 100
gunning 100
jdd2007 150
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Strider 50
TOTAL 900

Headmaster
Shabba 257.5



I propose the dissolvement of the Vanir discount. This would seem logical, since there are no ties between the independent Academy, and the princedom of Vanir.
If the prince of Vanir wants to continue the discount, the Academy should be compensated for that.
I feel that the Vanir discount would create unequalness among the students in the long run. If the Vanir discount is discontinued, the tuition costs for all students can be lowered.

Shabbaman
Jan 23, 2003, 05:00 AM
CLASS / TEACHER
Main Sub- Est. New
Student Skill Skill gain sub

ARMORED - DEFENSE jdd2007
4.8 8
Donovan 5.8 7 0.34 7.34
naervod 3 7.74 0.16 7.9
Plexus 2 7.15 0.14 7.29

SHIELD - DEFENSE jdd2007
4.8 8
BCLG100 2 7.15 0.14 7.29
CivGen 3 7.39 0.18 7.57
Donovan 5.8 5 0.44 5.44
naervod 3 7.74 0.16 7.9
Octav X 1 2.68 0.32 3
Plexus 2 7.15 0.14 7.29

UNARMORED - DEFENSE Donovan
5.8 8.25
BCLG100 2 7.46 0.14 7.6
Cyc 1 6.16 0.15 6.31
gonzo 2 6.41 0.19 6.6
Padma 5 9 0.21 9.21
Plexus 2 5.51 0.24 5.75

STEEPLECHASE - HORSEMANSHIP gonzo FULL!
3.8 7
CT 3 6.2 0.19 6.39
Donovan 3 6 0.2 6.2
gunning 4 6.25 0.24 6.49
naervod 3 7 0.15 7.15
Octav X 4 7.9 0.1 8
Padma 2 4 0.25 4.25
Strider 5.6 3 0.48 3.48

PRECISION - HORSEMANSHIP jdd2007
4.8 6.31
CT 3 6.62 0.13 6.75
gonzo 3.8 6.39 0.19 6.58
gunning 4 6.42 0.19 6.61
Plexus 2 3.99 0.01 4
Strider 5.6 5.66 0.31 5.97

SPEED - HORSEMANSHIP Strider
5.6 13
CT 3 5 0.55 5.55
Cyc 7 13 0.35 13.35
gonzo 3.8 10 0.34 10.34
gunning 4 11.78 0.22 12
jdd2007 4.8 11.61 0.31 11.92

MELEE - WEAPONRY Plexus
6.8 14.5
BCLG100 3 10 0.38 10.38
Donovan 2 10.93 0.07 11
eyrei 3 13.64 0.19 13.83
jdd2007 3 14.18 0.17 14.35
naervod 2 13.18 0.17 13.35

RANGED - WEAPONRY Padma
4.5 4.5
CT 3 6 0.08 6.08
CivGen 2 5.22 0.06 5.28
Plexus 6.8 6 0.27 6.27

HURLED - WEAPONRY Octav X
6.6 6
BCLG100 3 5.2 0.19 5.39
Cyc 2 4.9 0.1 5

ENGINEERING - WARFARE Shabba
12.2 5
BCLG100 2 3.39 0.18 3.57
Donovan 2 2.72 0.21 2.93
jdd2007 3 5 0.15 5.15
Strider 3 2.3 0.29 2.59

STRATEGY - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
12.2 6
BCLG100 2 5.29 0.14 5.43
CivGen 2 4.57 0.17 4.74
Cyc 2 3.72 0.21 3.93
Donovan 2 6.1 0.1 6.2
jdd2007 3 5.57 0.17 5.74
naervod 2 4.2 0.19 4.39
Padma 3 6.91 0.09 7

TACTICS - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
12.2 6
CivGen 2 4.2 0.19 4.39
Cyc 2 3.72 0.21 3.93
Donovan 2 3.25 0.24 3.49
jdd2007 3 6.56 0.12 6.68
naervod 2 3.72 0.21 3.93
Strider 3 3.59 0.27 3.86

TRACKING - HUNTING CT
3.8 4
CivGen 1 2.15 0.14 2.29
Gunning 2 1 0.25 1.25
Cyc 2 1.72 0.21 1.93

SNARES - HUNTING CT
3.8 4
CivGen 1 2.29 0.14 2.43
Cyc 2 0.59 0.27 0.86

STEALTH - HUNTING Padma FULL!
3.5 4
BCLG100 2 2.2 0.19 2.39
CT 3.8 5.24 0.13 5.37
Cyc 2 2.2 0.19 2.39
gunning 2 2.74 0.16 2.9
CivGen 1 1.39 0.18 1.57

AVIAN - HUSBANDRY gunning
4 5.25
0.26 0.26

CANINE - HUSBANDRY gunning
4 5.5
Strider 3 1.74 0.26 2

EQUINE - HUSBANDRY gonzo
3.6 5
CT 1 4.81 0.06 4.87
gunning 4 4.25 0.24 4.49
Octav X 1 1.93 0.07 2
Strider 3 5.29 0.14 5.43



Student Tuition
BCLG100 175
CivGen 87.5
CT 75
Cyc 200
Donovan 87.5
eyrei 25
gonzo 37.5
gunning 75
jdd2007 62.5
naervod 75
Octav X 75
Padma 37.5
Plexus 125
Strider 150
TOTAL 1287.5



Instructor Salary
CT 100
Donovan 50
gonzo 100
gunning 100
jdd2007 150
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Strider 50
TOTAL 900

Headmaster
Shabba 257.5

Shaitan
Jan 23, 2003, 05:46 AM
Captain Snow is interested in teaching Pistol and Rifle classes.

Sign him up for:
Unarmored
Steeplechase
Precision
Speed
Hurled
Strategy

If he teaches only 1 class, add Tracking. If he teaches no classes ( :( ) add Stealth.

Shabbaman
Jan 23, 2003, 05:55 AM
Steeplechase and strategy classes are full, I'm sorry. There might be additional horsemanship classes in the future. At the moment, I signed you up for 4 classes. With the classes you'd teach, you can join two more classes.
You're hired for pistols and rifles, and Veera Anlai is hired as charges teacher, unless someone comes up with a higher stat value.

I'll join rifles, pistols and charges classes myself.

You all have until tomorrow to post the new stat preferences. The next training, scheduled for the 25th, 1500 GMT, will include the new stats. Note that the current rostrum doesn't include those upgrades yet!

Shaitan
Jan 23, 2003, 07:23 AM
Looks like you need more instructors. ;)

Sign Snow up for Tracking and Stealth to fill out the roster.

Shaitan
Jan 23, 2003, 07:26 AM
@Shabba - Don't forget to remove classes from the results when there are no students in them.

Shabbaman
Jan 23, 2003, 08:07 AM
Thanks. I thought the spreadsheet did that automatically. I've everything figured out, except how the thing counts the number of teachers and students.
Only Gunning1 got extra pay, I'll drop by his pub and drink a barrel as compensation:)

Tracking is full as well...

Shaitan
Jan 23, 2003, 08:28 AM
All righty then, go for Melee.

disorganizer
Jan 23, 2003, 08:49 AM
i would like to join the 3 POWDER classes immediately.


if you want a teacher for any other classes which i could teach, please sign me up as such (i believe 1 is possible for me to teach? as 4 is the max-class limit?)

Shabbaman
Jan 23, 2003, 09:31 AM
Melee is fine. Plexus can handle some 14 students:D

Dis, aren't you dead?

disorganizer
Jan 23, 2003, 09:39 AM
no. UNdead!
otherwise i could create a new character ;-)

Veera Anlai
Jan 23, 2003, 03:04 PM
Shabba: Snow and I have equal statistics in the Rifles and Pistol categories, but I requested to teach the class first. Why did he get preference when I was first to ask?

Also, I do not have any interest in teaching the Charges class at this time.

Shaitan
Jan 23, 2003, 05:59 PM
@Veera - I think it's because I'm meaner. ;)

I'd be happy with one class. Or maybe we could hold a general marksmanship class with both of us involved...

Veera Anlai
Jan 23, 2003, 06:02 PM
I wouldn't mind sharing classes... Teaching pistols and rifles is much easier when you have a tar- er, partner to demonstrate with. ^_^

CivGeneral
Jan 23, 2003, 06:04 PM
I am interested in singing up for the Rifles and Pistol classes :).

Shaitan
Jan 23, 2003, 06:13 PM
See? Our witty repartee is already attracting students! :D

disorganizer
Jan 24, 2003, 02:51 AM
Me also! Me also! Please! :-)

Shabbaman
Jan 24, 2003, 03:28 AM
Yeah yeah dis, you're in... :)

Veera, I'm sorry, you are in fact correct. I was probably half blind at the time, since I figured snow had a higher rating. But I think we can come to an agreement, since I'd like snow as teacher as well. I wouldn't doubt if there's demand for more Powders classes...
For this training, I'll keep it like this though. I'll approach Gonzo, The Married One, if he's willing to stop teaching Equine. You could do equine class.

Shaitan
Jan 24, 2003, 05:44 AM
How about this...Veera and I do the combined Rifle and Pistol (Marksman) class. Counts as two classes for the students and instructors. That way we can take up to 10 students in the class.

Mechanically it would be the same as individual classes but it's much cooler for role playing.

Shabbaman
Jan 24, 2003, 06:21 AM
It does sound cool, that's correct. But how do I implement that?

...

I can see how this works, but there are some people interested in rifles only, for example.
But, since I suspect rifles and pistols will be full pretty soon, I can propose a new class, of course: marksman class. Trains both pistol and rifles, skills NOT combined, double the cost, double the income. But I can't afford double the pay.

Well, 'legally', you're both able to teach 5 students for each skill, together, you can teach up to 10 students. But (I think) you can't teach in rifles/pistols besides marksmanship. So, I'll have to find someone else to teach those classes.

Summary:

class: marksmanship
teachers: snow&veera
pay: 50 each
max. students: 10
cost: twice normal tuition
upgrades: pistol (standard 0.05), rifles (ditto); for the teachers 0.2 Powders (that's 0.1 for each 'subclass')
This means you get the same income as for 1 class, but double the points (and that's a pretty good deal imho)

I'll put all students who are currently in both pistol and rifles in marksmanship (CG, dis and me), and I'm now accepting new teachers for rifles and pistols.

Veera Anlai
Jan 24, 2003, 04:09 PM
The deal sounds fine to me Shabba, although I'm curious if a person enrolled in Marksmanship can also enroll in Pistols/Rifles....
I'd also be willing to teach Equine, but don't press Gonzo too hard to jump ship if he doesn't want to do so.
Thanks for the compromise Shabba and Shai :goodjob:

Cyc
Jan 25, 2003, 02:46 AM
As gonzo_for_civ seems to have given up his RPG jobs, I would like to resubmit my application for becoming the Steeplechase Instructor.

gunning1
Jan 25, 2003, 09:31 AM
Gonzo hasn't given up his jobs.

I talked to him in the chat last night, and he said that the academy was keeping his account alive....

Veera Anlai
Jan 25, 2003, 11:13 AM
Huh... I thought Gonzo had left CF permanently :confused:

Shaitan
Jan 25, 2003, 05:25 PM
@Veera - He retired from his moderator position and his demogame/RPG jobs but he's still here. :)

Shabbaman
Jan 27, 2003, 08:48 AM
CivGeneral: you can't join rifles and pistols, since you're already in 7 classes.
Veera: No, a student can't take marksmanship and rifles/pistols simultaneously. I think it would be possible that one of your pupils teaches in rifles/pistols though.

Grandmaster
Jan 27, 2003, 03:21 PM
I would like to join all available POWDERS classes, please.

Veera Anlai
Jan 27, 2003, 04:17 PM
Hrmm... If I'm willing to take a pay cut, could we offer the Marksmanship class for a lower tuition cost then?

Padma
Jan 27, 2003, 04:19 PM
I would like to join the Marksmanship class.

CivGeneral
Jan 27, 2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Shabbaman
CivGeneral: you can't join rifles and pistols, since you're already in 7 classes.

@Shabbaman: Well, can I drop the Defense class So I can sign up for the Pistol/Rifle class

Shabbaman
Jan 28, 2003, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by Veera Anlai
Hrmm... If I'm willing to take a pay cut, could we offer the Marksmanship class for a lower tuition cost then?

It's not a money issue.

@CG: allright, you're in.

Shabbaman
Jan 28, 2003, 06:22 AM
CLASS / TEACHER
Main Sub- Est. New
Student Skill Skill gain sub

ARMORED - DEFENSE jdd2007
5 8
Donovan 5.9 7.34 0.33 7.67
naervod 3 7.9 0.1 8
Plexus 2 7.29 0.14 7.43

SHIELD - DEFENSE jdd2007
5 8
BCLG100 2 7.29 0.14 7.43
CivGen 3 7.57 0.17 7.74
Donovan 5.9 5.44 0.42 5.86
naervod 3 7.9 0.1 8
Octav X 1 3 0.3 3.3
Plexus 2 7.29 0.14 7.43

UNARMORED - DEFENSE Donovan
5.9 8.25
BCLG100 2 7.6 0.13 7.73
Cyc 1 6.31 0.15 6.46
gonzo 2 6.6 0.18 6.78
Padma 5 9.21 0.2 9.41
Plexus 2 5.75 0.23 5.98
Snow 2 3.36 0.34 3.7

STEEPLECHASE - HORSEMANSHIP gonzo FULL!
3.9 7
CT 3 6.39 0.18 6.57
Donovan 3 6.2 0.19 6.39
gunning 4 6.49 0.23 6.72
naervod 3 7.15 0.14 7.29
Octav X 4 8 0.15 8.15
Padma 2 4.25 0.24 4.49
Strider 5.7 3.48 0.46 3.94

PRECISION - HORSEMANSHIP jdd2007 FULL!
7.9 6.31
CT 3 6.75 0.13 6.88
gonzo 3.9 6.58 0.18 6.76
gunning 4 6.61 0.19 6.8
Plexus 2 4 0.22 4.22
Snow 2 0.42 0.39 0.81
Strider 5.7 5.97 0.03 6

SPEED - HORSEMANSHIP Strider
5.7 13
CT 3 5.55 0.45 6
Cyc 7 13.35 0.33 13.68
gonzo 3.9 10.34 0.33 10.67
gunning 4 12 0.25 12.25
jdd2007 7.9 12.87 0.13 13
Snow 2 5.5 0.48 5.98

MELEE - WEAPONRY Plexus
6.9 15.5
BCLG100 3 10.43 0.4 10.83
Donovan 2 11 0.33 11.33
eyrei 3 13.88 0.12 14
jdd2007 3 15.35 0.16 15.51
naervod 2 13.4 0.21 13.61
Snow 1 0.83 0.17 1

RANGED - WEAPONRY Padma
4.6 4.5
CT 3 6.08 0.07 6.15
CivGen 2 5.28 0.06 5.34
Plexus 6.9 6.27 0.26 6.53

HURLED - WEAPONRY Octav X
6.7 6
BCLG100 3 5.39 0.18 5.57
Cyc 2 5 0.15 5.15
Snow 1 1.3 0.29 1.59

ENGINEERING - WARFARE Shabba
12.5 6
BCLG100 2 3.62 0.22 3.84
Donovan 2 2.98 0.02 3
jdd2007 4 5.25 0.24 5.49
Strider 3 2.64 0.32 2.96

STRATEGY - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
12.5 6
BCLG100 2 5.43 0.13 5.56
CivGen 2 4.74 0.16 4.9
Cyc 3 4.93 0.07 5
Donovan 2 6.2 0.09 6.29
jdd2007 4 5.79 0.21 6
naervod 2 4.39 0.18 4.57
Padma 3 7 0.1 7.1

TACTICS - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
12.5 6
CivGen 2 4.39 0.18 4.57
Cyc 3 4.93 0.07 5
Donovan 2 3.49 0.23 3.72
jdd2007 4 6.73 0.16 6.89
naervod 2 3.93 0.07 4
Strider 3 3.86 0.14 4

TRACKING - HUNTING CT
4 4
CivGen 1 2.29 0.14 2.43
Cyc 2 1.93 0.07 2
Gunning 2 1.25 0.24 1.49
Snow 1 1.2 0.19 1.39

SNARES - HUNTING CT
4 4
CivGen 1 2.43 0.13 2.56
Cyc 2 0.86 0.14 1

STEALTH - HUNTING Padma FULL!
3.6 4
BCLG100 2 2.39 0.18 2.57
CT 4 5.37 0.13 5.5
Cyc 2 2.39 0.18 2.57
gunning 2 2.9 0.1 3
CivGen 1 1.57 0.17 1.74

AVIAN - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.1 5.25
0.26 0.26

CANINE - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.1 5.5
Strider 3 2 0.33 2.33

EQUINE - HUSBANDRY gonzo
3.7 5
CT 1 4.87 0.06 4.93
gunning 4.1 4.49 0.23 4.72
Octav X 1 2 0.2 2.2
Strider 3 5.43 0.13 5.56

EQUINE - EXOTIC Shabba
1 1
0.05 0.05

POWDERS - PISTOLS Vacant


POWDERS - RIFLES Vacant

POWDERS - CHARGES Veera
2.2 3
Shabba 2 2.25 0.38 2.63
Dis 2 1.3 0.43 1.73

POWDERS - MARKSMANSHIP Snow&Veera
Rifles
5
Shabba 2 1.4 0.28 1.68
Dis 2 1.4 0.28 1.68
Pistols
5
Shabba 2 1.4 0.28 1.68
Dis 2 1.4 0.28 1.68


The bill comes with it. Please note that tuition costs have dropped from 25 to 15 gold per class.


Student Tuition
BCLG100 105
CivGen 105
CT 90
Cyc 120
Dis 45
Donovan 105
eyrei 15
gonzo 45
gunning 90
jdd2007 75
naervod 90
Octav X 45
Padma 45
Plexus 75
Shabba 45
Snow 90
Strider 90
TOTAL 1275

Instructor Salary
CT 100
Donovan 50
gonzo 100
gunning 50
jdd2007 150
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Snow 100
Strider 50
Veera 100
TOTAL 950

Headmaster
Shabba 255

Shaitan
Jan 28, 2003, 07:38 AM
What's this one? Unicorns? :lol:

"EQUINE - EXOTIC Shabba"

Shabbaman
Jan 28, 2003, 07:50 AM
No. Killer rabbits.

jdd2007
Jan 28, 2003, 03:19 PM
id like to drop out of speed and join the marksmanship class, please. id also like to ask that we be able to attend 10 classes, now that there is so many.

Shabbaman
Jan 29, 2003, 02:50 AM
Other thread for that question, JDD... If you want to join marksmanship, you have to drop another class, since marksmanship counts as two classes.

Veera, congratulations! You've got the job as Equine teacher! I also read that you weren't interested in Charges class, but I had you teach the last two classes nevertheless. If you want to quit, let me know, then I'll teach them myself (as the next highest ranked)!

Shaitan
Jan 29, 2003, 03:21 AM
@jdd2007 (& everybody else) - For rule changes, simply send your change request to all of the RPG Managers. Currently they are BCLG100, Strider and Naervod. For subrule sets like Character Stats, two of them must agree to the change. If they do, forward me their responses and the rule will be changed.

Shabbaman
Jan 29, 2003, 07:58 AM
CLASS / TEACHER
Main Sub- Est. New
Student Skill Skill gain sub

ARMORED - DEFENSE jdd2007
5.2 8
Donovan 6 7.62 0.32 7.94
naervod 3 8 0.15 8.15
Plexus 2 7.43 0.13 7.56

SHIELD - DEFENSE jdd2007
5.2 8
BCLG100 2 7.43 0.13 7.56
Donovan 6 5.86 0.14 6
naervod 3 8 0.15 8.15
Octav X 1 3.3 0.29 3.59
Plexus 2 7.43 0.13 7.56

UNARMORED - DEFENSE Donovan
6 8.25
BCLG100 2 7.73 0.13 7.86
Cyc 1 6.46 0.14 6.6
gonzo 2 6.78 0.17 6.95
Padma 5 9.41 0.19 9.6
Plexus 2 5.98 0.02 6
Snow 2 3.7 0.3 4

STEEPLECHASE - HORSEMANSHIP gonzo FULL!
4 7
CT 3 6.57 0.17 6.74
Donovan 3 6.39 0.18 6.57
gunning 4 6.72 0.21 6.93
naervod 3 7.29 0.14 7.43
Octav X 4 8.15 0.14 8.29
Padma 2 4.49 0.23 4.72
Strider 5.8 3.94 0.06 4

PRECISION - HORSEMANSHIP jdd2007 FULL!
8 6.31
CT 3 6.88 0.12 7
gonzo 4 6.76 0.18 6.94
gunning 4 6.8 0.18 6.98
Plexus 2 4.22 0.2 4.42
Snow 2 0.81 0.19 1
Strider 5.8 6 0.31 6.31

SPEED - HORSEMANSHIP Strider
5.8 13
CT 3 6 0.5 6.5
Cyc 7 13.68 0.32 14
gonzo 4 10.67 0.32 10.99
gunning 4 12.25 0.24 12.49
jdd2007 8 13 0.4 13.4
Snow 2 5.98 0.02 6

MELEE - WEAPONRY Plexus
7 15.5
BCLG100 3 10.83 0.17 11
Donovan 2 11.33 0.31 11.64
eyrei 3 14 0.23 14.23
jdd2007 3 15.51 0.15 15.66
naervod 2 13.61 0.19 13.8
Snow 1 1 0.78 1.78

RANGED - WEAPONRY Padma
4.7 4.5
CT 3 6.15 0.07 6.22
CivGen 2 5.34 0.06 5.4
Plexus 7 6.53 0.25 6.78

HURLED - WEAPONRY Octav X
6.8 6
BCLG100 3 5.57 0.17 5.74
Cyc 2 5.15 0.14 5.29
Snow 1 1.59 0.27 1.86

ENGINEERING - WARFARE Shabba
12.8 6
BCLG100 2 3.84 0.16 4
Donovan 2 3 0.25 3.25
jdd2007 4 5.49 0.23 5.72
Strider 3 2.96 0.04 3

STRATEGY - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
12.8 6
BCLG100 2 5.56 0.12 5.68
CivGen 2 4.9 0.1 5
Cyc 3 5 0.2 5.2
Donovan 2 6.29 0.09 6.38
jdd2007 4 6 0.2 6.2
naervod 2 4.57 0.17 4.74
Padma 3 7.1 0.1 7.2

TACTICS - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
12.8 6
CivGen 2 4.57 0.17 4.74
Cyc 3 5 0.2 5.2
Donovan 2 3.72 0.21 3.93
jdd2007 4 6.89 0.11 7
naervod 2 4 0.2 4.2
Strider 3 4 0.25 4.25

TRACKING - HUNTING CT
4.2 4
CivGen 1 2.43 0.13 2.56
Cyc 2 2 0.2 2.2
Gunning 2 1.49 0.23 1.72
Snow 1 1.39 0.18 1.57

SNARES - HUNTING CT
4.2 4
CivGen 1 2.56 0.12 2.68
Cyc 2 1 0.25 1.25

STEALTH - HUNTING Padma FULL!
3.7 4
BCLG100 2 2.57 0.17 2.74
CT 4.2 5.5 0.14 5.64
Cyc 2 2.57 0.17 2.74
gunning 2 3 0.15 3.15
CivGen 1 1.74 0.16 1.9

AVIAN - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.2 5.25
0.26 0.26

CANINE - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.2 5.5
Strider 3 2.33 0.31 2.64

EQUINE - HUSBANDRY gonzo
3.8 5
CT 1 4.93 0.05 4.98
gunning 4.2 4.72 0.22 4.94
Octav X 1 2.2 0.19 2.39
Strider 3 5.56 0.12 5.68

EQUINE - EXOTIC Shabba
1 1
0.05 0.05

POWDERS - PISTOLS Vacant


POWDERS - RIFLES Vacant

POWDERS - CHARGES Veera FULL!
2.4 3
Dis 2 1.71 0.29 2
G-Mastr 2 1.2 0.44 1.64
Shabba 2 2.61 0.37 2.98

POWDERS - MARKSMANSHIP Snow&Veera
Rifles
5
CivGen 2 1.3 0.29 1.59
Dis 2 1.68 0.27 1.95
G-Mastr 2 2.25 0.24 2.49
Padma 2 2.25 0.24 2.49
Shabba 2 1.68 0.27 1.95
Pistols
5
CivGen 2 1.3 0.29 1.59
Dis 2 1.68 0.27 1.95
G-Mastr 2 2.25 0.24 2.49
Padma 2 2.25 0.24 2.49
Shabba 2 1.68 0.27 1.95


The bill:


Student Tuition
BCLG100 105
CivGen 120
CT 90
Cyc 120
Dis 45
Donovan 105
eyrei 15
gonzo 45
G-Mastr 45
gunning 90
jdd2007 75
naervod 90
Octav X 45
Padma 75
Plexus 75
Shabba 45
Snow 90
Strider 90
TOTAL 1365

Instructor Salary
CT 100
Donovan 50
gonzo 100
gunning 50
jdd2007 150
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Snow 100
Strider 50
Veera 100
TOTAL 950

Headmaster
Shabba 273

jdd2007
Feb 02, 2003, 03:59 PM
id like to:

-let naervod teach shields
-let CT teach precision
-drop out of those classes
-teach tactics if possible (i have a full point higher skill than the instructor)
-enter the marksmanship classes

is that ok?

Shabbaman
Feb 03, 2003, 03:07 AM
I doubt if I let you take over my job. New proposition?

jdd2007
Feb 03, 2003, 05:29 AM
you genuinely dont like my proposals, do you?

well, i will just do the first two things, enter marksmanship, and drop out of tactics for now

Shabbaman
Feb 03, 2003, 05:41 AM
Did you contact CT and Naervod if they want to be teachers? I do need confirmation for that.

And, for a little nuance: no, I don't like your proposals, for 4 reasons:
1. The skill difference go for many classes/teachers, so I'd have to change them all.
2. I don't like to 'fire' teachers, since that doesn't show any respect.
3. After some turnchats, the former teacher will have surpassed the new teacher, so it's back to #1, over and over again (this is my main objection)
4. And it's my job:)
I've had the idea of a 'masterclass' in the past, but I've come to the conclusion that that'd be way too much work.

Shabbaman
Feb 03, 2003, 05:52 AM
Due to a mistake from my part (I have to post it before I do the new rostrum) no results this time, but check the 'new sub' from the last results to see the current results. In the first post of this thread you can find the est. gain and new sub for the next training.

Here's the bill:


Student Tuition
BCLG100 105
CivGen 120
CT 90
Cyc 120
Dis 45
Donovan 105
eyrei 15
gonzo 45
G-Mastr 45
gunning 90
jdd2007 60
naervod 90
Octav X 45
Padma 75
Plexus 75
Shabba 45
Snow 90
Strider 90
TOTAL 1350

Instructor Salary
CT 100
Donovan 50
gonzo 50
gunning 50
jdd2007 150
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Snow 100
Strider 50
Veera 150
TOTAL 1050

Headmaster Salary
Shabba 270

Shabbaman
Feb 05, 2003, 06:25 AM
Student Tuition
BCLG100 105
CivGen 120
CT 75
Cyc 120
Dis 45
Donovan 105
eyrei 15
gonzo 45
G-Mastr 45
gunning 90
jdd2007 90
naervod 75
Octav X 45
Padma 75
Plexus 75
Shabba 45
Snow 90
Strider 0
TOTAL 1260

Instructor Salary
CT 150
Donovan 50
gonzo 50
gunning
jdd2007 50
naervod 50
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Snow 100
Strider 50
Veera 150
TOTAL 1000

Headmaster Salary
Shabba 252


The rostrum plus stat results can be found in the first post. The termly upgrades are applied as well.

Shabbaman
Feb 05, 2003, 06:55 AM
@Veera Anlai: do you want to be teaching charges or not?

Shabbaman
Feb 10, 2003, 03:21 AM
With the departure of Gonzo, The Great Leader, The Married One, there's a vacancy for steeplechase teacher. Until someone shows up, there will be no steeplechase class!

Cyc
Feb 10, 2003, 07:35 AM
I will take the position of Steeplechase Instructor, Shabbaman.

Shabbaman
Feb 10, 2003, 07:48 AM
You're hired Cyc.

Cyc
Feb 10, 2003, 09:44 AM
Good. Thank you, Shabbaman. If I need to drop a class to become the Instructor for Steeplechase, let me know.

Cyc
Feb 12, 2003, 12:04 AM
Hey Shabbaman. I'm assuming (again) that I will be getting paid for today's Steeplchase Instruction? I don't appear to be posted as the Instructor...

Shabbaman
Feb 13, 2003, 05:01 AM
Sure you get paid. I've been sick so the last training isn't processed yet.

EDIT: and yes, you have to quit 1 class. You're working overtime now:)

Cyc
Feb 13, 2003, 06:59 AM
Sorry to hear you're not feeling well, Shabbaman. Get better soon. Hot tea and whiskey usually does the trick. :)

I'll drop SNARES - HUNTING. I'm not advancing much in that class.
(It's kinda boring too.) That should open up a slot for me to Instruct the Steeplechase class. Thanks.

Veera Anlai
Feb 13, 2003, 04:32 PM
I am interested in taking the 'Defense - Unarmored class." That's it for now ^_^

Donovan Zoi
Feb 14, 2003, 12:28 AM
Ok, looks like I am Pistols instructor? But what is the point of indivdual Pistols and Rifles courses if everyone is taking Marksmanship?

In other words, what more is there to learn about these items other than pointing them and shooting them?

IMO, there should only be the three Powders classes with the marksmanship implied. Then again, I'm still teaching folks how to dodge fists and swords, so I could be mistaken. :D BTW, thanks for the interest in my class, Veera.

Shabbaman
Feb 14, 2003, 04:24 AM
Well, marksmanship class is twice the cost. Some people aren't interested in pistols, but are interested in rifles. Take a look at their stats.

Shabbaman
Feb 18, 2003, 03:31 AM
Finally, the results for the 11/2 training are in. I'll put up the results for the 14/2 and 17/2 trainings asap, including above changes. This has been our last training with Gonzo and BCLG btw... We'll miss them!

Due to the recent loss of some students, the management is forced to raise from 15g to 18g per training (please remember that it used to be 25g)


CLASS / TEACHER
Main Sub- Est. New
Student Skill Skill gain sub

ARMORED - DEFENSE jdd2007
5.6 8
Donovan 6.3 8.31 0.3 8.61
naervod 3.2 8.43 0.14 8.57
Plexus 2 7.8 0.11 7.91

SHIELD - DEFENSE naervod
3.2 8.15
BCLG100 2 7.81 0.12 7.93
Donovan 6.3 6.81 0.19 7
Octav X 1 4 0.26 4.26
Plexus 2 7.81 0.12 7.93

UNARMORED - DEFENSE Donovan
6.3 8.25
BCLG100 2 8 0.11 8.11
Cyc 1 6.86 0.12 6.98
gonzo 2 7.16 0.15 7.31
Padma 5 9.95 0.05 10
Plexus 2 6.41 0.19 6.6
Snow 2 4.61 0.28 4.89

STEEPLECHASE - HORSEMANSHIP Cyc
8.1 7
CT 3.2 7 0.16 7.16
Donovan 4 7 0.2 7.2
gunning 5 7.25 0.24 7.49
naervod 3 7.68 0.12 7.8
Octav X 4 8.56 0.12 8.68
Padma 3 5 0.25 5.25

PRECISION - HORSEMANSHIP CT
3.2 7
gonzo 4.2 7.21 0.2 7.41
gunning 5 7.25 0.24 7.49
Plexus 2 4.87 0.13 5
Snow 3 1.88 0.12 2

SPEED - HORSEMANSHIP Strider
6.2 13
CT 3.2 7 0.46 7.46
Cyc 8.1 14.68 0.32 15
gonzo 4.2 11.31 0.29 11.6
gunning 5 13 0.25 13.25
jdd2007 8.1 14 0.36 14.36
Snow 3 6.98 0.02 7

MELEE - WEAPONRY Plexus
8.2 15.5
BCLG100 3 11.74 0.26 12
Donovan 2 12 0.28 12.28
eyrei 3 14.64 0.19 14.83
jdd2007 3 15.94 0.06 16
naervod 2 14 0.18 14.18
Snow 1 2.73 0.27 3

RANGED - WEAPONRY Padma
5 4.5
CT 3 6.34 0.06 6.4
CivGen 2 5.51 0.05 5.56
Plexus 8.2 7.28 0.27 7.55

HURLED - WEAPONRY Octav X
7.1 6
BCLG100 3 6 0.15 6.15
Cyc 3 5.66 0.17 5.83
Snow 1 2.25 0.24 2.49

ENGINEERING - WARFARE Shabba
14.6 6
BCLG100 2 4.39 0.18 4.57
Donovan 2 3.72 0.21 3.93
jdd2007 4 6 0.2 6.2

STRATEGY - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
14.6 6
BCLG100 2 5.91 0.09 6
CivGen 3 5.39 0.18 5.57
Cyc 3 5.57 0.17 5.74
Donovan 2 6.54 0.07 6.61
jdd2007 4 6.57 0.17 6.74
naervod 2 5 0.15 5.15
Padma 3 7.38 0.08 7.46

TACTICS - WARFARE Shabba
14.6 6
CivGen 3 5 0.2 5.2
Cyc 3 5.57 0.17 5.74
Donovan 2 4.2 0.19 4.39
naervod 2 4.57 0.17 4.74

TRACKING - HUNTING CT
4.8 4
CivGen 1 2.68 0.12 2.8
Cyc 2 2.57 0.17 2.74
Gunning 2 2 0.2 2.2
Snow 1 1.9 0.1 2

SNARES - HUNTING CT
4.8 4
CivGen 1 2.91 0.09 3
Cyc 2 1.72 0.21 1.93

STEALTH - HUNTING Padma FULL!
4 4
BCLG100 2 3 0.15 3.15
CT 4.8 5.92 0.08 6
Cyc 2 3 0.15 3.15
gunning 2 3.43 0.13 3.56
CivGen 1 2.15 0.14 2.29

AVIAN - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.25
0.26 0.26

CANINE - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.5

EQUINE - HUSBANDRY Veera
2.3 5
CT 1 5.05 0.05 5.1
gunning 4.3 5.22 0.2 5.42
Octav X 2 2.84 0.16 3

EQUINE - EXOTIC Shabba
1 1
0.05 0.05

POWDERS - PISTOLS Donovan

POWDERS - RIFLES Vacant

POWDERS - CHARGES Veera FULL!
3.3 3
Dis 2 2.59 0.41 3
G-Mastr 3 2.2 0.5 2.7
Shabba 3 3.15 0.46 3.61

POWDERS - MARKSMANSHIP Snow&Veera
Rifles
5
CivGen 3 2 0.3 2.3
Dis 2 2.25 0.24 2.49
G-Mastr 3 3 0.25 3.25
jdd2007 2 1.59 0.27 1.86
Padma 3 3 0.25 3.25
Shabba 3 2 0.3 2.3
Pistols
5
CivGen 2 2 0.25 2.25
Dis 2 2.25 0.24 2.49
G-Mastr 3 3 0.25 3.25
jdd2007 2 1.59 0.27 1.86
Padma 3 2.81 0.19 3
Shabba 3 2 0.3 2.3


The bill that comes with it...

Student Tuition
BCLG100 105
CivGen 120
CT 75
Cyc 120
Dis 45
Donovan 105
eyrei 15
gonzo 45
G-Mastr 45
gunning 90
jdd2007 90
naervod 75
Octav X 45
Padma 75
Plexus 75
Shabba 45
Snow 90
Strider 0
TOTAL 1260

Instructor Salary
CT 150
Cyc 50
Donovan 50
gunning
jdd2007 50
naervod 50
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Snow 100
Strider 50
Veera 150
TOTAL 1000

Headmaster Salary
Shabba 252


Greetings from Shabbaman!

Cyc
Feb 18, 2003, 04:12 AM
Shabbaman - My schedule is very tight, so I cannot possibly rejoin CT's SNARES - HUNTING class. Please remove my name from that class' list and refund my 15 gold that was charged to my account in error. Thank you very much, sir. BTW, how are your Steeplechase skills?

Shabbaman
Feb 18, 2003, 06:23 AM
Cyc, you're already off the rostrum, check the first post... This training was from before you dropped snares class... Since these results are posted here, I can only speak in the words of the late Prince, Shaitan:

"Once they're up, they're chiseled in stone."

My steeplechase skills are... crap. I have a competition score of 4 for steeplechase, versus your 15... But then again, you're the absolute steeple chase master.

BTW, that 15 gold hasn't been charged to your account, but has been booked against your salary as the new steeplechase instructor.

gunning1
Feb 18, 2003, 10:44 AM
I'm going to drop out of Husbandry and Hunting. Thank you. :)

Grandmaster
Feb 18, 2003, 10:46 AM
I would like to drop out of both of my classes. Thank you.

Shabbaman
Feb 19, 2003, 03:14 AM
Allright, you're out as from todays (19/2) training.

Shabbaman
Feb 24, 2003, 07:35 AM
Results for 14/2 (!) training:


CLASS / TEACHER
Main Sub- Est. New
Student Skill Skill gain sub

ARMORED - DEFENSE jdd2007
5.7 8
Donovan 6.4 8.61 0.29 8.9
naervod 3.3 8.57 0.14 8.71
Plexus 2 7.91 0.09 8

SHIELD - DEFENSE naervod
3.3 8.15
Donovan 6.4 7 0.38 7.38
Octav X 1 4.26 0.24 4.5
Plexus 2 7.93 0.07 8

UNARMORED - DEFENSE Donovan
6.4 8.25
Cyc 1 6.98 0.02 7
Padma 5 10 0.16 10.16
Plexus 2 6.6 0.18 6.78
Snow 2 4.89 0.11 5
Veera 2 5.26 0.25 5.51

STEEPLECHASE - HORSEMANSHIP Cyc
8.2 7
CT 3.3 7.16 0.16 7.32
Donovan 4 7.2 0.19 7.39
gunning 5 7.49 0.23 7.72
naervod 3 7.8 0.11 7.91
Octav X 4 8.68 0.12 8.8
Padma 3 5.25 0.24 5.49

PRECISION - HORSEMANSHIP CT
3.3 7
gunning 5 7.49 0.23 7.72
Plexus 2 5 0.2 5.2
Snow 3 2 0.4 2.4

SPEED - HORSEMANSHIP Strider
6.3 13
CT 3.3 7.46 0.44 7.9
Cyc 8.2 15 0.31 15.31
gunning 5 13.25 0.24 13.49
jdd2007 8.1 14.36 0.34 14.7
Snow 3 7 0.45 7.45

MELEE - WEAPONRY Plexus
8.3 15.5
Donovan 2 12.28 0.26 12.54
eyrei 3 14.83 0.17 15
jdd2007 3 16 0.13 16.13
naervod 2 14.18 0.17 14.35
Snow 1 3 0.68 3.68

RANGED - WEAPONRY Padma
5.1 4.5
CT 3 6.4 0.06 6.46
CivGen 2 5.56 0.05 5.61
Plexus 8.3 7.55 0.26 7.81

HURLED - WEAPONRY Octav X
7.2 6
Cyc 3 5.83 0.16 5.99
Snow 1 2.49 0.23 2.72

ENGINEERING - WARFARE Shabba
14.9 6
Donovan 2 3.93 0.07 4
jdd2007 4 6.2 0.19 6.39

STRATEGY - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
14.9 6
CivGen 3 5.57 0.17 5.74
Cyc 3 5.74 0.16 5.9
Donovan 2 6.61 0.07 6.68
jdd2007 4 6.74 0.16 6.9
naervod 2 5.15 0.14 5.29
Padma 3 7.46 0.08 7.54

TACTICS - WARFARE Shabba
14.9 6
CivGen 3 5.2 0.19 5.39
Cyc 3 5.74 0.16 5.9
Donovan 2 4.39 0.18 4.57
naervod 2 4.74 0.16 4.9

TRACKING - HUNTING CT
5 4
CivGen 1 2.8 0.11 2.91
Cyc 2 2.74 0.16 2.9
Gunning 2 2.2 0.19 2.39
Snow 1 2 0.15 2.15

SNARES - HUNTING CT
5 4
CivGen 1 3 0.1 3.1

STEALTH - HUNTING Padma FULL!
4.1 4
CT 5 6 0.15 6.15
Cyc 2 3.15 0.14 3.29
gunning 2 3.56 0.12 3.68
CivGen 1 2.29 0.14 2.43

AVIAN - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.25
0.26 0.26

CANINE - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.5

EQUINE - HUSBANDRY Veera
2.4 5
CT 1 5.1 0.05 5.15
gunning 4.3 5.42 0.19 5.61
Octav X 2 3 0.2 3.2

EQUINE - EXOTIC Shabba
1 1
0.05 0.05

POWDERS - PISTOLS Donovan

POWDERS - RIFLES Vacant

POWDERS - CHARGES Veera FULL!
3.5 3
Dis 2 3 0.1 3.1
G-Mastr 3 2.7 0.3 3
Shabba 3 3.61 0.39 4

POWDERS - MARKSMANSHIP Snow&Veera
Rifles
5.00
CivGen 3.00 2.30 0.29 2.59
Dis 2.00 2.49 0.23 2.72
G-Mastr 3.00 3.25 0.24 3.49
jdd2007 2.00 1.86 0.14 2.00
Padma 3.00 3.25 0.24 3.49
Shabba 3.00 2.30 0.29 2.59
Pistols
5.00
CivGen 2.00 2.30 0.24 2.54
Dis 2.00 2.49 0.23 2.72
G-Mastr 3.00 3.25 0.24 3.49
jdd2007 2.00 1.86 0.14 2.00
Padma 3.00 3.00 0.25 3.25
Shabba 3.00 2.30 0.29 2.59

Student Tuition
CivGen 144
CT 90
Cyc 126
Dis 54
Donovan 126
eyrei 18
G-Mastr 54
gunning 108
jdd2007 108
naervod 90
Octav X 54
Padma 90
Plexus 90
Shabba 54
Snow 108
Strider 0
Veera 18
TOTAL 1332

Instructor Salary
CT 150
Cyc 50
Donovan 50
gunning
jdd2007 50
naervod 50
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Snow 100
Strider 50
Veera 150
TOTAL 1000

Headmaster Salary
Shabba 266.4


Results for 17/2 training:

CLASS / TEACHER
Main Sub- Est. New
Student Skill Skill gain sub

ARMORED - DEFENSE jdd2007
5.8 8
Donovan 6.5 8.9 0.1 9
naervod 3.4 8.71 0.13 8.84
Plexus 2 8 0.1 8.1

SHIELD - DEFENSE naervod
3.4 8.15
Donovan 6.5 7.38 0.36 7.74
Octav X 1 4.5 0.23 4.73
Plexus 2 8 0.11 8.11

UNARMORED - DEFENSE Donovan
6.5 8.25
Cyc 1 7 0.11 7.11
Padma 5 10.16 0.15 10.31
Plexus 2 6.78 0.17 6.95
Snow 2 5 0.26 5.26
Veera 2 5.51 0.24 5.75

STEEPLECHASE - HORSEMANSHIP Cyc FULL!
8.3 7
CT 3.4 7.32 0.15 7.47
Donovan 4 7.39 0.18 7.57
gunning 5 7.72 0.21 7.93
naervod 3 7.91 0.09 8
Octav X 4 8.8 0.11 8.91
Padma 3 5.49 0.23 5.72
Shabba 3 1.45 0.43 1.88

PRECISION - HORSEMANSHIP CT
3.4 7
gunning 5 7.72 0.21 7.93
Plexus 2 5.2 0.19 5.39
Snow 3 2.4 0.38 2.78

SPEED - HORSEMANSHIP Strider
6.4 13
CT 3.4 7.9 0.1 8
Cyc 8.3 15.31 0.3 15.61
gunning 5 13.49 0.23 13.72
jdd2007 8.1 14.7 0.3 15
Snow 3 7.45 0.43 7.88

MELEE - WEAPONRY Plexus
8.4 15.5
Donovan 2 12.54 0.25 12.79
eyrei 3 15 0.18 15.18
jdd2007 3 16.13 0.12 16.25
naervod 2 14.35 0.16 14.51
Snow 1 3.68 0.32 4

RANGED - WEAPONRY Padma
5.2 4.5
CT 3 6.46 0.05 6.51
CivGen 2 5.61 0.04 5.65
Plexus 8.4 7.81 0.19 8

HURLED - WEAPONRY Octav X
7.3 6
Cyc 3 5.83 0.16 5.99
Snow 1 2.72 0.21 2.93

ENGINEERING - WARFARE Shabba
15.2 6
Donovan 2 4 0.2 4.2
jdd2007 4 6.39 0.18 6.57

STRATEGY - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
15.2 6
CivGen 3 5.74 0.16 5.9
Cyc 3 5.9 0.1 6
Donovan 2 6.68 0.07 6.75
jdd2007 4 6.9 0.1 7
naervod 2 5.29 0.14 5.43
Padma 3 7.54 0.07 7.61

TACTICS - WARFARE Shabba
15.2 6
CivGen 3 5.39 0.18 5.57
Cyc 3 5.9 0.1 6
Donovan 2 4.57 0.17 4.74
naervod 2 4.9 0.1 5

TRACKING - HUNTING CT
5.2 4
CivGen 1 2.91 0.09 3
Cyc 2 2.9 0.1 3
Gunning 2 2.39 0.18 2.57
Snow 1 2.15 0.14 2.29

SNARES - HUNTING CT
5.2 4
CivGen 1 3.1 0.1 3.2

STEALTH - HUNTING Padma FULL!
4.2 4
CT 5.2 6.15 0.15 6.3
Cyc 2 3.29 0.14 3.43
gunning 2 3.68 0.12 3.8
CivGen 1 2.43 0.13 2.56

AVIAN - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.25
0.26 0.26

CANINE - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.5

EQUINE - HUSBANDRY Veera
2.5 5
CT 1 5.15 0.04 5.19
gunning 4.3 5.61 0.18 5.79
Octav X 2 3.2 0.19 3.39

EQUINE - EXOTIC Shabba
1 1
0.05 0.05

POWDERS - PISTOLS Donovan

POWDERS - RIFLES Vacant

POWDERS - CHARGES Veera FULL!
3.7 3
Dis 2 3.1 0.46 3.56
G-Mastr 3 3 0.15 3.15
Shabba 3 4 0.1 4.1

POWDERS - MARKSMANSHIP Snow&Veera
Rifles
5.00
CivGen 3.00 2.59 0.27 2.86
Dis 2.00 2.72 0.21 2.93
G-Mastr 3.00 3.49 0.23 3.72
jdd2007 2.00 2.00 0.25 2.25
Padma 3.00 3.49 0.23 3.72
Shabba 3.00 2.59 0.27 2.86
Pistols
5.00
CivGen 3.00 2.59 0.27 2.86
Dis 2.00 2.72 0.21 2.93
G-Mastr 3.00 3.49 0.23 3.72
jdd2007 2.00 2.00 0.25 2.25
Padma 3.00 3.25 0.24 3.49
Shabba 3.00 2.59 0.27 2.86

Student Tuition
CivGen 144
CT 90
Cyc 126
Dis 54
Donovan 126
eyrei 18
G-Mastr 54
gunning 108
jdd2007 108
naervod 90
Octav X 54
Padma 90
Plexus 90
Shabba 54
Snow 108
Strider 0
Veera 18
TOTAL 1332

Instructor Salary
CT 150
Cyc 50
Donovan 50
gunning
jdd2007 50
naervod 50
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Snow 100
Strider 50
Veera 150
TOTAL 1000

Headmaster Salary
Shabba 266.4

Shabbaman
Feb 24, 2003, 08:02 AM
Results for 20/2 training:


CLASS / TEACHER
Main Sub- Est. New
Student Skill Skill gain sub

ARMORED - DEFENSE jdd2007
5.9 8
Donovan 6.6 9 0.28 9.28
naervod 3.5 8.84 0.13 8.97
Plexus 2 8.1 0.1 8.2

SHIELD - DEFENSE naervod
3.5 8.15
Donovan 6.6 7.74 0.26 8
Octav X 1 4.73 0.22 4.95
Plexus 2 8.11 0.1 8.21

UNARMORED - DEFENSE Donovan
6.6 8.25
Cyc 1 7.11 0.11 7.22
Padma 5 10.31 0.15 10.46
Plexus 2 6.95 0.05 7
Snow 2 5.26 0.25 5.51
Veera 2 5.75 0.23 5.98

STEEPLECHASE - HORSEMANSHIP Cyc FULL!
8.4 7
CT 3.5 7.47 0.15 7.62
Donovan 4 7.75 0.16 7.91
gunning 5 7.93 0.07 8
naervod 3 8 0.1 8.1
Octav X 4 8.91 0.09 9
Padma 3 5.72 0.21 5.93
Shabba 3 1.88 0.12 2

PRECISION - HORSEMANSHIP CT
3.5 7
gunning 5 7.93 0.07 8
Plexus 2 5.39 0.18 5.57
Snow 3 2.78 0.22 3

SPEED - HORSEMANSHIP Strider
6.5 13
CT 3.5 8 0.43 8.43
Cyc 8.4 15.61 0.29 15.9
gunning 5 13.72 0.21 13.93
jdd2007 8.1 15 0.31 15.31
Snow 3 7.88 0.12 8

MELEE - WEAPONRY Plexus
8.5 15.5
Donovan 2 12.79 0.21 13
eyrei 3 15.18 0.17 15.35
jdd2007 3 16.25 0.11 16.36
naervod 2 14.51 0.15 14.66
Snow 1 4 0.63 4.63

RANGED - WEAPONRY Padma
5.3 4.5
CT 3 6.51 0.05 6.56
CivGen 2 5.65 0.04 5.69
Plexus 8.5 8 0.25 8.25

HURLED - WEAPONRY Octav X
7.4 6
Cyc 3 5.99 0.01 6
Snow 1 2.93 0.07 3

ENGINEERING - WARFARE Shabba
15.5 6
Donovan 2 4.2 0.19 4.39
jdd2007 4 6.57 0.17 6.74

STRATEGY - WARFARE Shabba FULL!
15.5 6
CivGen 3 5.9 0.1 6
Cyc 3 6 0.15 6.15
Donovan 2 6.75 0.06 6.81
jdd2007 4 7 0.15 7.15
naervod 2 5.43 0.13 5.56
Padma 3 7.61 0.07 7.68

TACTICS - WARFARE Shabba
15.5 6
CivGen 3 5.57 0.17 5.74
Cyc 3 6 0.15 6.15
Donovan 2 4.74 0.16 4.9
naervod 2 5 0.15 5.15

TRACKING - HUNTING CT
5.4 4
CivGen 1 3 0.1 3.1
Cyc 2 3 0.15 3.15
Snow 1 2.29 0.14 2.43

SNARES - HUNTING CT
5.4 4
CivGen 1 3.2 0.09 3.29

STEALTH - HUNTING Padma FULL!
4.3 4
CT 5.4 6.3 0.16 6.46
Cyc 2 3.43 0.13 3.56
CivGen 1 2.56 0.12 2.68

AVIAN - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.25
0.26 0.26

CANINE - HUSBANDRY gunning
4.3 5.5

EQUINE - HUSBANDRY Veera
2.6 5
CT 1 5.19 0.04 5.23
Octav X 2 3.39 0.18 3.57

EQUINE - EXOTIC Shabba
1 1
0.05 0.05

POWDERS - PISTOLS Donovan

POWDERS - RIFLES Vacant

POWDERS - CHARGES Veera
3.9 3
Dis 2 3.56 0.44 4
Shabba 3 4.1 0.48 4.58

POWDERS - MARKSMANSHIP Snow&Veera
Rifles
5.00
CivGen 3.00 2.86 0.14 3.00
Dis 2.00 2.93 0.07 3.00
jdd2007 2.00 2.25 0.24 2.49
Padma 3.00 3.72 0.21 3.93
Shabba 3.00 2.86 0.14 3.00
Pistols
5.00
CivGen 3.00 2.86 0.14 3.00
Dis 2.00 2.93 0.07 3.00
jdd2007 2.00 2.25 0.24 2.49
Padma 3.00 3.49 0.23 3.72
Shabba 3.00 2.86 0.14 3.00

Student Tuition
CivGen 160
CT 100
Cyc 140
Dis 60
Donovan 140
eyrei 20
gunning 60
jdd2007 120
naervod 100
Octav X 60
Padma 100
Plexus 100
Shabba 60
Snow 120
Strider 0
Veera 20
TOTAL 1360

Instructor Salary
CT 150
Cyc 50
Donovan 50
gunning
jdd2007 50
naervod 50
Octav X 50
Padma 100
Plexus 50
Shabba 150
Snow 100
Strider 50
Veera 150
TOTAL 1000


Results for 23/3 training:

Shabbaman
Mar 21, 2003, 08:12 AM
I've been very busy last month, so today I've calculated the results of the last 8 (!) trainings. This resulted in one huuuuuge bill. You can find the updated rostrum on the first page of this thread.

Note: the tuition cost has dropped to 19 gold for this month.


Student Tuition
CivGen 1216
CT 760
Cyc 1064
Dis 456
Donovan 1064
eyrei 152
gunning 456
jdd2007 912
naervod 760
Octav X 456
Padma 760
Plexus 760
Shabba 456
Snow 912
Strider 0
Veera 152
TOTAL 10336

Instructor Salary
CT 1200
Cyc 400
Donovan 400
gunning 0
jdd2007 400
naervod 400
Octav X 400
Padma 800
Plexus 400
Shabba 1200
Snow 800
Strider 400
Veera 1200
TOTAL 8000

Headmaster Salary
Shabba 2067.2


Greetings from Shabbaman

gunning1
Mar 21, 2003, 03:56 PM
Ok, I would like to drop out of all non-horse related classes please. But I would still like to teach classes.

Shabbaman
Mar 24, 2003, 02:41 AM
That's okay Gunning. I'll put up the rostrum (which I forgot) and change it right away.

Another thing btw: since some classes are getting smaller, should I:

a. lower salaries
b. raise tuition costs
c. dissolve the academy?

Input please!

Shabbaman
Mar 24, 2003, 02:45 AM
The rostrum can be found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=713965#post713965). And Gunning, you were only in the three horsemanship classes already :rolleyes:

That'll cost you one pint of riot beer! :beer:

Shaitan
Mar 24, 2003, 04:01 AM
Raise tuition. Nobody is spending any money anyway.

gunning1
Mar 24, 2003, 03:54 PM
:lol: I thought I was in more! Oh well!

Shabbaman
Apr 16, 2003, 09:53 AM
Student Tuition
CivGen 640
CT 400
Cyc 560
Dis 240
Donovan 560
eyrei 80
gunning 240
jdd2007 480
naervod 400
Octav X 240
Padma 400
Plexus 400
Shabba 240
Snow 480
Strider 0
Veera 80
TOTAL 5440

Instructor Salary
CT 600
Cyc 200
Donovan 200
gunning
jdd2007 200
naervod 200
Octav X 200
Padma 400
Plexus 200
Shabba 600
Snow 400
Strider 200
Veera 600
TOTAL 4000

Headmaster Salary
Shabba 272


Check the first post and the character thread for the final scores.

Greetings, your headmaster, Shabbaman