View Full Version : Preview: The Warthog (Halo Jeep Vehicle)


Grey Fox
Jan 18, 2003, 11:24 PM
Here is a preview of a new unit I started to model today after feeling frustrated at my Scorpion unit. (Problems with making it into a civ3 unit :mad: :()

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/warthog.jpg

I'm gonna add 3 Halo Marines on it aswell, 1 Driver, 1 Passanger that can use it's weapon to shoot while in movement. And a marine that controles the turret, which is the main weapon of the Warthog.

I'm also going to smooth it some, and texture it.

gunning1
Jan 18, 2003, 11:30 PM
I think it is looking good so far, but what weapon will the person in the passenger seat have? ;) It looks good though. Keep up the good work! :D

Syrus_Knife
Jan 19, 2003, 12:23 AM
Dude, this is awesome. Now we'll have a Halo Mod. Oh wait!!!

Chieftess!! Are you going to close this thread as well? I don't think GreyFox contacted Xbox company. Uh oh! CT!

Yoda Power
Jan 19, 2003, 02:01 AM
Nice Grey Fox:thumbsup: , lets just hope this wont take as long as the scorpion did/do.

Sebsage, sh*t up.

bhiita
Jan 19, 2003, 02:54 AM
I would like to help you with your units, if you wouldn't mind.
I'm going to try and get CD4 in a few weeks with a upgraded computer. I need something to get familiar with the program, but I've already figured out how to animate and render with the demo. (it took me 3hrs to d/l and it was worth every second)
maybe we could team up.

zulu9812
Jan 19, 2003, 04:25 AM
Yoda, I think sebsage actually has a valid point.

Yoda Power
Jan 19, 2003, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by zulu9812
Yoda, I think sebsage actually has a valid point.

yes, but he cant be continue to be so p*shed *f Chieftess re-opend his thread.

Steph
Jan 19, 2003, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by zulu9812
Yoda, I think sebsage actually has a valid point.

Well, as long as the unit is effectively modeled by Grey Fox, from an idea coming from Halo, and not simply a 3D model taken directly from the game, I think it's perfectly legal.

Schizo_Angel
Jan 19, 2003, 08:40 AM
Looks excellent :):):)

A bigger chaingun might be nice, to really show up.
I dont know...Maybe to fight in with the more exxagerated, cartoonish look of civ, maybe it better be, sort of squashed up a bit.
Smaller length, perhaps make the windscreen bigger.

But these are just options...Im not even sure if they are valid.
TIs my birthday today...champagne :D

computerdude113
Jan 19, 2003, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by sebsage
I don't think GreyFox contacted Xbox company. Uh oh! CT!
, if you're gonna dis someone or whatever you were trying to do, GET IT RIGHT! Xbox is made by Microsoft, not the Xbox company!

Grandmaster
Jan 19, 2003, 08:57 AM
Grey Fox, you are my new best friend!
Keep this up, and soon enough we'll be able to make a Halo scenario. :D

Kinda makes me want to go and run over some aliens......

Balou
Jan 19, 2003, 09:01 AM
Are you going to add a texture to the model? If not, I would add some more detail to the wheels. Also the jeep seems to be a bit too long (only the middle part -> refering to this image (http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/stills/still_10.jpg)). Anyway, the mounted gun looks very nice.

I donīt know if you already know this, but on bungie.net (http://www.bungie.net/perlbin/blam.pl?file=/site/1/site/halo/features/gallery_03.html) you can see small movies (only the wireframes) of the models they used in the game.

Grey Fox
Jan 19, 2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Balou
Are you going to add a texture to the model? If not, I would add some more detail to the wheels. Also the jeep seems to be a bit too long (only the middle part -> refering to this image (http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/stills/still_10.jpg)).Yes I'm gonna add textures, as I said in my post, and I know that it is a bit too long, will fix that...

I donīt know if you already know this, but on bungie.net (http://www.bungie.net/perlbin/blam.pl?file=/site/1/site/halo/features/gallery_03.html) you can see small movies (only the wireframes) of the models they used in the game. Yes I know.

Grey Fox
Jan 19, 2003, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by bhiita
I would like to help you with your units, if you wouldn't mind.Maybe you could do the Pelican Transport ship as a start?

http://halo.bungie.org/faq/pelican.jpg

bhiita
Jan 19, 2003, 09:32 AM
OK, I would love to make that!!!!! as soon as I get everything (comp/prog) I'll start on it:D are there anymore pics? and it's going to be a few weeks before I'll be able to do anything.
after I make this I might be able to make the camel calvalry unit:)

Grey Fox
Jan 19, 2003, 09:36 AM
Here are some images: http://www.bungie.net/perlbin/blam.pl?file=/site/1/site/halo/features/gallery_02.html

Do a search with http://www.google.com aswell.

Kal-el
Jan 19, 2003, 02:46 PM
Grey Fox,

Are you then planning on making the Marines their own seperate unit? :)

Grey Fox
Jan 19, 2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Kal-el
Grey Fox,

Are you then planning on making the Marines their own seperate unit? :) Not really, I'm just gonna make very low detail, Simple things sitting and standing on the Vehicle.

Like these (but much more simple):
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/caption_02.jpg

Kal-el
Jan 19, 2003, 04:36 PM
That's sad. :( But won't a Halo Scenario eventually require Separate Marine Units? Cuz those guys would be pretty cool. They sort of look like the Colonial Marines from Aliens.

Grey Fox
Jan 19, 2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Kal-el
That's sad. :( But won't a Halo Scenario eventually require Separate Marine Units? Cuz those guys would be pretty cool. They sort of look like the Colonial Marines from Aliens. Yes it would need them...

But I don't think I can make them at the moment, sorry :(

Grey Fox
Jan 19, 2003, 07:10 PM
Textured it some:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/warthog1.jpg

Gonna create that marine tomorrow, and finish the texturing.

Then I will animate it, and if I'm lucky create this and the Scorpion tank into Civ3 units.

Then I will start working on some other unit, probably the Covenant Ghost or something... Maybe the marine if the model will be good and I find some good Character Studio Tutorials.

Revenant
Jan 21, 2003, 06:50 AM
This is all very impressive stuff.

I'm amazed that anyone would have the patience to do this kind of stuff.:D

Schizo_Angel
Jan 21, 2003, 10:32 AM
That looks really cool!

Grey Fox
Jan 21, 2003, 03:15 PM
Now I have placed 3 marines on the warthog.

Now I only need to do som final texturing, and then I can start animating.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/marine.jpg

Nder
Jan 21, 2003, 03:23 PM
Cool! With a tad more detail those marines would definitely be cool units all on their own. :)

Schizo_Angel
Jan 22, 2003, 10:54 AM
Thats cool.

But those marines aren't really combat marines...unlike the main character. He'd make a better marine unit.

Grey Fox
Jan 22, 2003, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Schizo_Angel
Thats cool.

But those marines aren't really combat marines...unlike the main character. He'd make a better marine unit. Yes they are combat marines, they are the Infantry of the humans in Halo, the experimental units that Master Chief is a part of were super soldiers genetically enginered and enhanced with Cyborg parts.

And there is only ONE Master Chief (don't know what the unit would be called) left, as the Covenants ruined the experiment.

Schizo_Angel
Jan 22, 2003, 05:12 PM
But they don't look half as cool as he does ;)

gunning1
Jan 22, 2003, 05:15 PM
Well, there used to be more of the special units, but they all died and Master Chief is the only one left...;)

Grey Fox
Jan 23, 2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Schizo_Angel
But they don't look half as cool as he does ;) I'm gonna make him someday, if noone else makes him first...

Grey Fox
Jan 23, 2003, 07:58 AM
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/marine2.jpg
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/marine3.jpg
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/marine4.jpg

There is one more thing left to texture, and that is the green thing under the glass, it will be a board of technical stuff...

Mephansteras
Jan 23, 2003, 10:42 AM
Wow. This is coming along quite nicely! Got an ETA for the unit?

Grey Fox
Jan 23, 2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Mephansteras
Wow. This is coming along quite nicely! Got an ETA for the unit? No, but I will probably have most storyboards complete by the weekend... if I will be able to turn those into Flic animations... well, I don't know...

Sir John
Jan 23, 2003, 04:05 PM
This is great work...
If a Haloscenario is coming up i want to be in on the modmaking\civilopedia stuff (not very good in graphicks)
Hope a Scenariois coming........... =D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=

Kal-el
Jan 23, 2003, 05:14 PM
That looks really great, but I think the rear gunner could use a fanny tuck, unless he's wearing adult diapers and needs a changing. ;)

gunning1
Jan 23, 2003, 05:18 PM
And the steering wheel must be some kind of laser guided one? ;) It's not attached to anything. :)

Mephansteras
Jan 23, 2003, 05:26 PM
Not that anyone will be able to tell in-game...

Grey Fox
Jan 24, 2003, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Kal-el
That looks really great, but I think the rear gunner could use a fanny tuck, unless he's wearing adult diapers and needs a changing. ;) That's because of the way I move the limbs...

Originally posted by gunning1
And the steering wheel must be some kind of laser guided one? ;) It's not attached to anything. :)I might add the thing connected to the car, but...

Originally posted by Mephansteras
Not that anyone will be able to tell in-game...

Sir John
Jan 24, 2003, 01:58 AM
Since evrybody have thought of it but nobody has yet startet it I am starting to make a Halo Mod.. Its still in early progress and I need people to help me with it. Espeially with unit graphicks, Leaderheads and so on...

Everybody who contribute in any way, even with ideas (who are used in the mod) will be credited!!!!!!! Here is Halo Mod Base (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42492)
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Kal-el
Jan 24, 2003, 11:17 AM
Grey Fox, I think you misquoted me there. My only comment was about the fanny tuck, Gunning1 made the comment about the phantom steering column. :)

Grey Fox
Jan 30, 2003, 01:13 AM
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/WarthogNorthWest.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/WarthogNorth.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/WarthogNorthEast.gif
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/WarthogWest.gif ____________________ http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/WarthogEast.gif
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/WarthogSouthWest.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/WarthogSouth.gif http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/WarthogSouthEast.gif


These animations are done:

- Default
- Run
- Attack
- Victory and
- Death

I'm not gonna make any more animations unless you want me too. And if you want me to make an animation, please tell how you think it should be.

So now I need your help with deciding if the angles are ok... I myself are not totally satisfied with the North, NorthWest, NorthEast and the South...

And I also noticed now that the shadows are wrong... I have some static lights and 8 Cameras... so they always shine at the warthog from the same angle relative to which direction it is facing... which causes it too look like the Sun is at different positions on the different directions.

Fëanor
Jan 30, 2003, 03:59 AM
can you give us a preview of the death anim? i've seen a lot of nice units that were screwed up by really ugly death animations...

looks great by the way :)

Grey Fox
Jan 30, 2003, 05:35 AM
Ok, here is a Gif-ani of the death animation in the South East direction:
http://medieteknik.bth.se/frst01/warthogDeath2.gif

It's going slow because I can't make the Gif animation go any faster... :(

Come with suggestions of changes, or additions.

bhiita
Jan 30, 2003, 06:26 AM
I don't know how to help with the angles but I compared them with a civ unit and there really off.. :(the only thing I know to tell you without being 3d literate :p
would be to set the angle at 60 degrees instead of 45 :)
if I don't know what I'm talking about ignore this post.
don't even read it :D

but it looks really, really good besides the angle, and I even like the death your getting good! let's see if I can progress as fast as you.

Fëanor
Jan 30, 2003, 06:31 AM
looks great , only that blast takes too long , right now it looks more like a gas cloud (even when i save the gif and run it on my pc) , i really like those explosion particles , their a very nice touch , but i sadly doubt you can see them in game :(

Grey Fox
Jan 30, 2003, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Fëanor
looks great , only that blast takes too long , right now it looks more like a gas cloud (even when i save the gif and run it on my pc) , i really like those explosion particles , their a very nice touch , but i sadly doubt you can see them in game :( well, you can't get a Gif to go any faster then that...

With a flic animation you can.

ALthough I agree... I'm not totally satisfied myself... it does look a little like a gas cloud then an explosion... I think I'm gonna change the particle system I also use in the animation, because here it's not even visible...

Originally posted by bhiita
...would be to set the angle at 60 degrees instead of 45 I'm gonna try that, and I'm also going to compare it to the Modern armor, and adjust it acordingly.


And BTW, do I need Civ colors on this unit?
As I see it, I don't, as it's use would be the Halo mod and what would be the civ colors on this unit anyways? The marines?

Same thing with the Scorpion... I'm gonna redo that one some as I think that the much of the texturing on that one Sucks, and the Civ coloring won't be needed anyways...

Unless people want it.

Sir John
Jan 30, 2003, 07:41 AM
I really doubt that civ colors will be needed since alsmost all the units in the mod is going to be uu's... The animation looks great, but the explotion looks a little... well, a little "plastic". It looks kind of wierd.. other then that it looks great...

I really cant advise you on the graphics, shadows on angesl since I would have no idea about what I'm talking about the... =D

Fëanor
Jan 30, 2003, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by Grey Fox


And BTW, do I need Civ colors on this unit?
As I see it, I don't, as it's use would be the Halo mod and what would be the civ colors on this unit anyways? The marines?


well if you dont make civ colors on that unit then it can be used only in halo mod or as an hidden nationaity unit , that would be a shame , maybe you can make 2 versions , one with colors and one without . to color the marines seems best. maybe the wheelcaps also.

Sir John
Jan 30, 2003, 08:37 AM
well, I guess youre right (at some level.. hehe)..
I agree with Fëanor.. The marines should be the colored ones, and there should be two versions since colored marines wouldnt look to good in the halo mod...

Kal-el
Jan 30, 2003, 04:03 PM
If you put civ coloring in there somewhere the unit can be used outside of the Halo mod. So please add civ coloring.

Grey Fox
Jan 31, 2003, 01:06 AM
ok, will do.

NewDestroyer
Feb 16, 2003, 08:38 AM
gj grey fox!

horsematrix
Feb 25, 2003, 01:55 PM
I've checked out the scorpion and now the warthog and let me tell you that you did an awesome job grey fox I own Halo and play it frequently and you are dead on the graphics and I look forward to playing the halo mod and useing these units especially the scorpion BTW have you thought about makeing the bangee i believe thats how it's spelled but however it's spelled that would be a cool unit.:goodjob:

Grey Fox
Feb 25, 2003, 02:41 PM
I will make all units we need for the Halo mod, unless anyone else makes any of them. :)

Currently working on the Angles on this unit, retexturizing the Scorpion, and then animating it. I just finished the Model for the Human small transport boat (from a Bungie Concept Art). When I'm finished with this unit, I will make the Jungle version, the Snow version and the troop transport version of it aswell.

What we would need would be somebody to concentrate on Covenanant Vehicles and Characters, as I sortof concentrate on the Human units.

Sir John
Feb 26, 2003, 06:20 AM
Is there a way of making the boat be able to go up a river as well as in the sea?? That would be VERY cool!!

Grey Fox
Feb 26, 2003, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by Sir John
Is there a way of making the boat be able to go up a river as well as in the sea?? That would be VERY cool!! Nope, I don't think so.

Sir John
Feb 26, 2003, 08:11 AM
=(

horsematrix
Feb 26, 2003, 12:22 PM
Hey grey fox what programs do you use to make these units i currently have flicster psp and sbb and just learned how to use sbb so i'm working on multi units however i want to make my own custom units could you give me any advice considering how great your scorpion and warthog looks i'd greatly appreciate it and if I learned how to make units i could possibly help on the covenant vehicles:D

Grey Fox
Feb 26, 2003, 04:27 PM
I did the Warthog, and Scorpion with 3D Studio Max 5, and I'm working on the Boat and Master Chief in Maya 4.5.

Those programs are REAL expensive, I got them through school.

horsematrix
Feb 26, 2003, 09:06 PM
do you think they would have some of these type of programs for download if not how much do you think these kind of programs would run i'm really intrested in making units myself.

Grey Fox
Feb 26, 2003, 09:48 PM
3D Studio Max might have a Trial-Download, but I'm not sure.

There are other programs that come as trials, Rhinoceros is one.

horsematrix
Feb 26, 2003, 10:02 PM
can you direct me to where i might find these trials i'm really intrested in making some units

Grey Fox
Feb 26, 2003, 10:08 PM
You can order a trial CD here: http://www.discreet.com/products/3dsmax/

Click "order demo cd" in the menu. It's only a 30 Day demo though :(

horsematrix
Feb 26, 2003, 10:19 PM
great thanks i've sent away for the disk hopefully i'll get on board and do some things to help

Sir John
Feb 27, 2003, 03:43 AM
Don't even suggest downloading pirated software. Piracy is illegal and discussion is not permitted on this site.

horsematrix
Feb 27, 2003, 01:51 PM
oops my bad must of overlooked that i'll watch it from now and on:D

Padma
Feb 27, 2003, 02:07 PM
@horsematrix: Chieftess was talking to Sir John - she edited out his comments. ;)

horsematrix
Feb 27, 2003, 03:02 PM
oh ok i was all confused about it cause grey fox sent me to a site to get a free download cd and I thought that was ok.......:lol: I guess I need to get me some sleep i'm getting dumb.......:lol:

Civanator
Dec 19, 2003, 05:31 PM
So.......?

Grey Fox
Dec 19, 2003, 07:18 PM
Yes these will be done, Some Time! ;)

ReygaPrax
Aug 23, 2004, 02:22 PM
There are actually 3 Spartans still alive not counting the Master Chief.

They were on Reach but managed to make it to a Seciton 3 (intelligence wing) base and survived before being rescued with the Spartans' creator (Dr. Catherine Halsey) by the Master Chief aboard the hijacked Covenant Flagship Ascendant Justice.

Or so the story goes in the book "First Strike" which was approved by Bungie and tells the story of the fall of reach as well as some of the Master Chief's adventures post-halo.

Plus, there are number of Spartans visible in the latest Halo-2 shots.

Just thought I would let you know.

ocedius
Aug 23, 2004, 02:50 PM
My new :worship:

Goldflash
Aug 23, 2004, 03:02 PM
Yeah, this unit is never ever going to be finished

ocedius
Aug 23, 2004, 03:06 PM
Yeah, this unit is never ever going to be finished

Why do ya say that? Looks cool and anyone who has played Halo will want it. Me included :D

mattwebbca
Sep 08, 2004, 12:05 PM
Is the Warthog at least complete?

Sir Slaughter
Aug 16, 2005, 06:51 AM
Greatness............so great it if possible would bring a tear to my eye plugin port :borg:

EtaNett
Oct 12, 2008, 08:41 PM
Yes they are combat marines, they are the Infantry of the humans in Halo, the experimental units that Master Chief is a part of were super soldiers genetically enginered and enhanced with Cyborg parts.

And there is only ONE Master Chief (don't know what the unit would be called) left, as the Covenants ruined the experiment.

No, actually, Master Cheif is a 'Spartan Mark VI'. There's others like 'CQB', 'EVA',
'Recon', 'EOD', 'Hayabusa' 'Security' 'Scout' 'ODST' & 'Mark V' 'Rogue'. (All different units & there's thousands of them) I got this program that I downloaded here: http://myhalonews.com/hbo/halo-3-player-image-generator/

Deth McBones
Oct 12, 2008, 09:18 PM
:run::bump::twitch:
Wow
Bumpity bump bump bump!
You really got me going. I was about to say YES A WARTHOG!
But no. Ah well.

19Delta
Oct 13, 2008, 10:34 AM
hmm......maybe later

cubsfan6506
Oct 13, 2008, 11:25 AM
That bump isn't even relevant to civ, and corrects only a minor factual error.

AdmiralCole
May 04, 2010, 08:08 PM
Awesome! im trying to start a new halo mod and have contacted Sir John about it.

Ozymandias
May 04, 2010, 09:51 PM
18 months. :shake: And THAT after a 4 year hiatus. :deadhorse:

@AdmiralCole: 1st off, welcome to CFC :goodjob:

2nd, even here at CFC, after a time we just let the dead stay buried, if you get my drift.

-:evil:z

naruto 101
Nov 16, 2010, 08:55 PM
aree u done with this can u post it

Hikaro Takayama
Nov 16, 2010, 09:24 PM
Hate to break it to you, but Grey Fox hasn't even posted in this thread for over seven years, so the likelyhood of this unit getting completed by him ranges in the territory of "slim to none".....

Goldflash
Nov 16, 2010, 10:10 PM
Yeah, this unit is never ever going to be finished

I reiterate.

Wyrmshadow
Nov 18, 2010, 10:25 AM
I think all HALO threads should be locked so that the noobs won't resurrect them like a bad case of herpes.

You hear that newbies? Stop spreading forum herpes!