View Full Version : Sorry CtP2 fans, but don't buy Civ3


Ptolemy
Mar 29, 2001, 06:50 AM
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Sorry all you who've already bought the CTP2, but don't buy civ3. I've seen the screen-shots. They are just like CTP2. I Hate to dissapoint you, but...

[This message has been edited by Ptolemy (edited March 29, 2001).]

phoenixcager
Mar 29, 2001, 11:08 PM
By all means, if you're just buying the game for the graphics. But that's like the most unimportant thing in a civ-genre game...I'm confident that civ3 will be much better than CtP2 is.

Just look at some hints that we've had concerning some of the game concepts etc.


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Vedda
Apr 01, 2001, 10:55 PM
Yep spot on Pheonix.

Remember that the sceen shots posted here are not of game quality.

Ptolemy
Apr 02, 2001, 04:41 AM
I must agree that graphics isn't the most important, but still...Remember this is what you're going to look on for hours!!!

But I would be happy anyway if the game concept is great.

Good point of view, keep coming with your comments



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Max Webster
Apr 27, 2001, 10:32 AM
Hey it's the Year 2001, by now shouldn't we be able to have great gameplay and great graphics.

Dell19
Jun 24, 2001, 07:45 AM
I agree we should be able to expect everything.

G-Man
Aug 23, 2001, 05:40 PM
I don't think the graphics are so important in these games. If the game was 3D or if the graphics were smoother the game will be even harder to control the CTP2.
And one think I'm sure will be better in CivIII is the diplomacy. It's really hard to talk to the other side like this. And there are so many stupid Ideas in there. Did anyone ever got a city from another country? you can offer them any amount of money and any tech, but they just won't give me they're cities.

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phoenixcager
Aug 24, 2001, 05:45 AM
I think I read somewhere that it was a bug that prevented the AI-controlled civs to give you a city.

G-Man
Aug 24, 2001, 08:53 AM
Then why didn't they fix it in the patch?

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Az
Aug 25, 2001, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by Ptolemy:
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Sorry all you who've already bought the CTP2, but don't buy civ3. I've seen the screen-shots. They are just like CTP2. I Hate to dissapoint you, but...

[This message has been edited by Ptolemy (edited March 29, 2001).]

Civ 3 can't be worse than CTP2. There's nothing worse!


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Dell19
Aug 25, 2001, 06:06 AM
No that is completly wrong! PLumbers don't wear ties, Big brother 1 and 2 and much much worse

Phalon
Sep 23, 2001, 11:35 AM
The civ series has never been about graphics, there are many many games which will blow CTP2 and CIV3 right out of the water. Just take a look at civ II, it looks cheesie lol. Like I said it has nothing to do with looks. How many video games which are over 6 years old can maintain the game loyalty and fans which CIV II has? How many games that are 6 years old have as many fan developers that CIV II has? Its the strategy that is the most import aspect of the series. You can play a scenario over and over again and take differnt approaches via strategy or the civ you choose. You decide the direction you take. It is not static like most video games. Sure CIV3 graphis can be compared to CTP2, but its all of the new strategic ways of playing the game, and all of the new options, like garisoning a city or completely destroying it. that will be the hudge differnce.

I might be wrong but thats just my opinion. Happy civing.

Dell19
Oct 10, 2001, 01:00 PM
Well to prove the title wrong I started playing Civ 2 again and I can say that it is definately better than CTP2 :)

SINISTER1974
Oct 12, 2001, 01:13 AM
Alpha centari game was worse-i hate that damn game so much. And yes CIVIII has same graphics as ctp and ctp2-----but better game flow-ctp was to fast and had flaws i didnt like-i wish block buster rented out comp games :p

VanOranje
Oct 19, 2001, 05:11 AM
Your wright, Alpha Centauri SUCKS LIKE A ONE DOLLAR WHORE !!! :crazyeyes

CTP2 is ok but the tech-tree is a bit (LARG BIT) weird.

JUST GIVE ME CIV ANYDAY I PERSONALLY THINK ITS THE BEST GAME EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SID MEIER IS THE GAME-MASTER OF ALL TIMES :king: :king:

Dell19
Oct 20, 2001, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by VanOranje

SID MEIER IS THE GAME-MASTER OF ALL TIMES :king: :king:

But he made SMAC and you said that sucked...
:crazyeyes :confused: :rolleyes:

CoolLizy
Oct 26, 2001, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Dell19


But he made SMAC and you said that sucked...
:crazyeyes :confused: :rolleyes:

:lol:

Gameguru
Oct 26, 2001, 05:27 PM
I agree with Cool

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dell19
Oct 27, 2001, 03:37 AM
Thanks! :( :( :( :( :(

CoolLizy
Oct 27, 2001, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Dell19
Thanks! :( :( :( :( :(

Why you so down? I thought you were right on target. :)

Dell19
Oct 28, 2001, 03:50 AM
Oh right I thought you were being sarcastic...This thread has become abit pointless now.

bvd
Oct 28, 2001, 03:53 PM
It’s not surprising that most discussion of both versions of Call to Power covers only technical issues and criticism of the game’s shoddiness. The threads that can be found here are all a testament to the lack of effort and play-testing put forth by the game’s developers; they failed to make a strategy game, period. With any substantive mention of strategy, you’ll find remarks like “Build loads of cities, become theocratic and rush to Ecotopia”, “Build two Phalanx, a Settler, City Walls, a Granary, a Market Place, a Temple and pump out units” and others from the hard-core fans; nothing unorthodox like the approach players have contrived for Civ II. Of course, many of those hard-core fans ***** and moan about the imposed city-limit, the public’s general lack of interest for the game, etc.

Civ III, even before release, has a larger fan base than all of its spin-offs combined. Quality, gameplay and customizability, not hype and flare, are all that matter. Nevertheless, if the game turns out to be an overfeatured sequel, its sales will flounder. SMAC, on the other hand, wasn't a success because the game moved too slowly at first, was hard to learn and wasn't very adaptable for scenarios; other than that it was fine.

Anielewicz
Dec 02, 2001, 10:57 PM
Civ 3 is far better. CTP is a souless void.

Dell19
Dec 04, 2001, 04:38 PM
Civ 3 will not work, CTP 2 will work...Grrrrr :cry: :( :nuke:

Sha^ul Gar
Dec 07, 2001, 07:27 AM
I could not possibly disagree more, the graphics from CTP II and Civ III are very different. the movement of units, city graphics, (differnt city looks for differnt civs!!) terrain and water are totally different from CTP II. If you are looking for a challange in conquering the world, well...Civ III will make you feel foolish...multiple alliances, (and your allies, as well as your foes, Honor those alliances! sending troops...loaning gold ect..) I've mastered CTP II...I can't be beat by it any more, (welllll...by the compter anyway.) but Civ III repeatedly stomps on me at chieftain level.:D

Anielewicz
Dec 25, 2001, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by Dell19
Civ 3 will not work, CTP 2 will work...Grrrrr :cry: :( :nuke:

I pity you.

Dell19
Dec 26, 2001, 03:33 AM
Thats not making it work though! :mad:

Immortal Wombat
Dec 28, 2001, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Sha^ul Gar
I could not possibly disagree more, the graphics from CTP II and Civ III are very different. the movement of units, city graphics, (differnt city looks for differnt civs!!) terrain and water are totally different from CTP II.
Its true. Pity Firaxis didn't make the Civ3 graphics as good as the CtP2 graphics...

Martin Gühmann
Jan 02, 2002, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Immortal Wombat

Its true. Pity Firaxis didn't make the Civ3 graphics as good as the CtP2 graphics...

Yeah 8 bit and 255 color graphics for Civ3 cities and terrains in comparison to 24 bit 16 million color CTP2 graphics. Civ3 graphics are just bigger not only and that was it. And finally these graphics needs more space on your hard drive, because of an inferior graphics format in comparision to CTP2. My conclusion about Civ3 graphics in coparison to CTP2: They need just more space for the price of a worse quality.

Originally posted by Sha^ul Gar

differnt city looks for differnt civs!!

And this is new. Even Civ2 has four citystyles. Civ3 has five citystyles. And if you play one of the mayor CTP2 mods you have seven citystyles!!

And also from a look on Snoopy's terrain mod, I can't get rid of the impression that these terrain graphics looks somehow unsharp. And the thing about the tile improvement graphics looks somehow odd. Extra graphics for plains, tundra and dessert and the only difference can be find in the pixels for the egdes of Snoopy's farms. I guess Firaxis never heard something about transparent pixels. And this was one more effective method to waste our harddrive space, without getting a better benefit.

-Martin