Who would you pick for England if you were in Sven's position? My team would be;

Chris Kirkland - goalkeeper
Danny Mills - Right-back
Rio Ferdinand - Centre-back
Sol Campbell - Centre-back
Ashley Cole - Left-back
David Beckham (c) - Right midfield
Steven Gerrard - Centre Midfield
Paul Scholes - Centre Midfield
Danny Murphy - Left Midfield
Michael Owen - Striker
James Beattie - Striker

GK Robinson
RB G.Neville
CB Rio Ferdinand
CB Sol Campbell
LB A.Cole
RM D.Beckham
LM K.Dyer
MC Scholes
MC S.Gerrard
SC J.Beatie
SC J.Euell

Originally posted by Suppersalmon
SC J.Euell

Crazy Charlton fan... :rolleyes: :D

GK - David James
DR - Gary Neville
DL - Ashley Cole
DC - Rio Ferdinand
DC - Sol Campbell
MR - David Beckham (c)
ML - Wayne Bridge
MC - Steven Gerrard
MC - Danny Murphy
AM - Paul Scholes
SC - Michael Owen

mordhiem - 4-5-1? If history has taught us one thing it is England can't play defensive (we can't play a lot of ways actually).


GK - David James
As a Liverpool fan...:eek: :eek: :eek: [if only there was a run for the hills smilie]

Originally posted by MrPresident
mordhiem - 4-5-1? If history has taught us one thing it is England can't play defensive (we can't play a lot of ways actually).

Little Scholesy is/has been playing out of his skin in that 'in the hole' role for Man Utd. He is basically given a free role and pops up into the box so many times to get the crucial goal or vital flick on it's unbelievable. Also, I don't consider a central midfield containing Gerrard and Murphy particulary defensive. The fact that Owen is our only world class striker (that still wants to play internationals, :mad:@Shearer) also makes this an easy desicion for me.

On the James note, a) Who else is there with the experience and b) Just because he is playing for West Ham at the moment he isn't given true opportunities to show how much he has improved since his calamity days. I dod consider Wright, but he needs another season or two. Kirkland is good player, but still a long way off yet. The most important attribute for a goalkeeper to have is experience.

Some of this is very easy.

The back four picks itself

Neville ( G or T not P) Ferdinand R Campbell Cole A( not Andy)

In midfield Gerrard and Beckham are certs . Scholes too - can play in a 4 or 'in the hole' with 5.

I guess Owen is a cert although he's not playing well. I'd still pick Shearer if he made himself available. Beattie - not yet. Euell :eek:
Murphy - not good enough. Dyer if fit is a good player. McManaman? Not convinced. Heskey - not at any price. Nicky Butt had a great world cup until injured.

So midfield

Beckham D Gerrard S Butt N Scholes P Dyer K

Butt as anchor - all others can get forward in support of Owen - especially Scholesy.

Up front : Owen with Beattie as sub


Keeper? - Kirkland looks good. Robinson was the best young keeper around until recently. Got to be between those two. I'd go with Kirkland right now.

Chris Kirkland - goalkeeper
Gary Neville - Right-back
Rio Ferdinand - Centre-back
Sol Campbell - Centre-back
Ashley Cole - Left-back
David Beckham (c) - Right midfield
Steven Gerrard - Centre Midfield
Paul Scholes - Centre Midfield
Wayne Bridge - Left Midfield
Michael Owen - Striker
James Beattie - Striker

GK NOT Seaman
DR ?
DC Rio Ferdinand
DC Sol Campbell
DL Ashley Cole
ML ?
MR David Beckham (c)
DMC Steven Gerrard
AMC Paul Scholes
SC Michael Owen
SC ?

that's all i can tell :p

Thats the easy part WVO - I think you'll find that we ALL we went with that.

Oh - thats your point

Doh

well, can you put up a dutch team from the top of your head within a few mins? I'd really have to think a lot to get to the best player on every position when it's not one of my favourites.

Anyway, I just noticed that I for one specifically mentioned a defensive midfielder and one offensive midfielder ;) I play diamond :p

Do you want Frenchies allow you Henry, Pires, Petit, Wiltord, Sylvestre, Barthez and Dessailly ??

Goalkeeper: Richard Wright (Reluctantly; Seaman can't catch crosses)

Right back: Gary Neville (I'm a Man. United fan. :D But I think he's better than Mills anyway)

Center back: Sol Campbell, Gareth Southgate

Left back: Ashley Cole

Right midfield: David Beckham (He's personally objectionable but he crosses a good ball :D)

Central midfield: Paul Scholes, Danny Murphy

(Not Steven Gerrard. I don't think his game is developing; he plays a little speculatively (too many hit-and-hope shots and long balls for my liking) and has an awful disciplinary record)

Left midfield: Graham Le Saux (Reluctantly. He's usually designated as a defender, but he plays reasonably well in midfield for Chelsea when they ask him to do so)

Attackers: Michael Owen, Jason Euell (Euell's been playing like a demon for Charlton, in either attack or midfield. England lacks a striker with the dominance of Ronaldo or Fernando Morientes at the moment.)

What do I care, anyway? I like Brazil.

Not Steven Gerrard. I don't think his game is developing; he plays a little speculatively (too many hit-and-hope shots and long balls for my liking) and has an awful disciplinary record He is a tackling midfielder, of course, he is going to have an awful disciplinary record. Look at Keane and Veira for more details. As for his long balls, he probably does as many as Beckham and (because I like a bit of controversy) I think he is better than Beckham at that.
Jason Euell
:eek: Have I stepped into the twilight zone? :eek:
I'd go with Kirkland right now.
:goodjob: Best keeper we have ever produced, besides Gordon Banks of course.
The most important attribute for a goalkeeper to have is experience.
Yeah but surely not the experience of picking the ball out of the net after another dropped catch.

Originally posted by Elsaak
Do you want Frenchies allow you Henry, Pires, Petit, Wiltord, Sylvestre, Barthez and Dessailly ??

Desailly, Petit and Wiltord wouldn't get in our team. The rest? Yes please!

RE: David James, how many caps have Kirkland and Robinson got between them? That's what I mean by experience. James would only need to play a few matches whilst Robinson and Kirkland get used to the international set up, feel their way around the squad. The only concern I have is that Kirkland could be dropped at any moment and be replaced by Dudek, he isn't guarenteed a first team start.

It makes sense to use Kirkland or Robinson now though so that they gain experience and become the England number one for a long period of time rather than having to continually swap the goalkeeper.

The only concern I have is that Kirkland could be dropped at any moment and be replaced by Dudek, he isn't guarenteed a first team start.
Kirkland has as much chance of being dropped as any Premiership goalkeeper. And anyway being threatened with replacement is what keeps players sharp (and illegal drugs, of course).

Originally posted by mordhiem


Crazy Charlton fan... :rolleyes: :D

GK - David James



this is the Keeper last night who conceded 4 goals last night and 47 in total

Crazzy Person ... :rolleyes: :D

this is the Keeper last night who conceded 4 goals last night and 47 in total
Yes but last night he was faced with the footballing might that is Jason Euell. Considering that, 4 goals doesn't sound that bad.

yeah Euell sure caused you some problems But Paker more on last nights perfomance i feel he should get a chance in the England team

Originally posted by Suppersalmon


this is the Keeper last night who conceded 4 goals last night and 47 in total

Crazzy Person ... :rolleyes: :D

Don't judge keepers by the actions of their defence. Last night, (in the last 18 months actually) the Hammers defence wasn't just all over the place, but physically impaired and rendered incapable of running backwards. Or so it seemed... :rolleyes:

Its time for England to break in a new keeper. Seaman is still good but his day is over.

James has had chances - but make crucial mistakes. He makes flashy shot stoppiing saves but his decision making is poor

Both Robinson and Kirkland are younger - and IMHO better. Right now they are both holding down premiership places at good clubs. I'd go with Kirkland with Robinson putting pressure on him.

Dell didnt pick Nicky Butt :eek:

Well he doesn't exactly play regularily for Man UTD...

Hey, Man Utd has a better team than England...

Arsenal have a better team than Man Utd.

Using inequalities that means France has a better team than England.

France does have a better team than England. Everyone has a better team than England, except possibly Malta (on a bad day).

Ok - after Sunday, delete Kirkland. Havent heard the hospital report, but it looks like he's going to be out for a while with a damaged knee. James might have hurt his back picking the ball out of the net so many times - so its Robinson for me in goal.

Originally posted by MrPresident
Arsenal have a better team than Man Utd.

I would just like to remind you to look back at the last result ebtween Man U and Arsenal :p You may be top of the league but we're in the worthy cup final ;)

GK 1. Kirkland

DF 2. G. Neville
3. P. Neville
4. Ferdinand
6. Campbell

MF 5.Gerrard
7. Beckham
8. Butt
11. Hargreaves

AM 9. Scholes

ST 10. Owen

P.S. Man U 100 times better than Arsenal they just felt they didn't have to try last year and smegged up.

You may be top of the league but we're in the worthy cup final
I am a Liverpool fan not an Arsenal fan. We're in the worthy cup final too.

Okay I forgot that but then the point about us winning against them the last time we played is still valid.

En-ger-land r pure pish. A hate the English with passion.

Anyone want 2 play Celts v the brits

And how would we play that? Plus that post is very cross to a flame and I might even bother to report it.