These things are ridiculous. They are like camel archers and longbowmen on steroids. They don't have 2 range but they might as well since they can just move up, shoot and move back. And even at the point that they only do 1 damage they are still useful as you can have 5 or so of them with double shot promotions by then and they will be doing 10 dmg/turn.

They need to be overpowered so people will buy the Mongol DLC.

o wait...

You don't get the largest contiguous land empire in history with a crappy UU.

(the Khan is one of the best UU in the game too)

Lancers.

Mongolia ua is one of the worst in the game,so i think nerfed them would be a huge mistake. btw, search for Mongol Empire at google and see how many empires they conquered.

Mongolia ua is one of the worst in the game,so i think nerfed them would be a huge mistake. btw, search for Mongol Empire at google and see how many empires they conquered.

I agree with you. If you can survive the Mongolian horse age, they have virtually no benefit at all in the later years, or the early years for that matter. However, they're absolutely amazing at warmongering in the middle ages.

Nerfing them would make the Mongol scenario impossible to beat. The nerf to horsemen and other changes already screwed over this scenario to the point that I can't beat it, on deity, in the allotted time.

I agree with you. If you can survive the Mongolian horse age, they have virtually no benefit at all in the later years, or the early years for that matter. However, they're absolutely amazing at warmongering in the middle ages.

This. Just hunker down and wait until you have better units. You might have to play a defensive game against Mongolia during this era. I've also had success hunting them with Companion Cavalry using my best civ, Greece.

heh. yep thats my people.
but yeah once infantry rolls in even 5keshiks with full promotion can be hunted down pretty quickly. the AI isn't that smart and doesn't even keep them that long