View Full Version : Eternal life in a slo-mo


Loppan Torkel
Jul 04, 2011, 03:05 PM
1. Computers are quicker than the human brain when it comes to calculations.
2. It's possible to record things at a far higher rate than the human eye can detect.
3. There are many other techs/meds that may heighten our senses.

Could our perception of time change if these advancements were directly integrated to our brains, giving us a, in our mind, much longer life?

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velosepappe
Jul 05, 2011, 09:57 AM
And not go crazy from the fact that we cant move our limbs as fast as we would feel like?

Farsight
Jul 05, 2011, 10:00 AM
Will music sound like this?

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warpus
Jul 05, 2011, 06:53 PM
This concept is sort of explored in Iain M. Banks excellent novel The Algebraist (http://www.amazon.com/Algebraist-Iain-M-Banks/dp/1597800260)

PeteAtoms
Jul 07, 2011, 08:58 PM
One would also need to be able to interact with the environment at a speed relative to the one's awareness of the environment. Otherwise it would be a lot of watching and waiting, right? Is there an issue with 'thinking speed' being completely out of tune with 'doing speed'?

Inception also comes to mind. And at least the entire thing happens within the mind, what I mentioned above doesn't apply.

Souron
Jul 07, 2011, 09:45 PM
It sorta depends on how the mind keeps time. Anecdotally, Time flies when you're having fun, and a watched pot never boils, so more activity may actually make life seem shorter. More formally one can try to experimentally compare one's own ability to measure perceived doing various activities. Does trying to rush skew our perception of time? Do busy semi-autonomous tasks? Does spending time thinking?

These things are easy enough to test, and testing them would provide a much better framework then just guessing.

peter grimes
Jul 08, 2011, 12:29 PM
I think there was a RadioLab episode that talked about how the brain perceives time. Specifically they looked at the experience of how time seems to stand still during a crisis - car accident, falling off a bridge, etc.

They spent some time testing subjects in the lab to get a baseline of different peoples' internal clocks. Something along the lines of 'push the button when 3 seconds has elapsed'. Then they brought the same people to an amusement park and had them do the same drills, only this time they were on one of those free-fall rides.

It turns out that it's not that people's perception of time slows down, but that the brain starts recording every single little detail during the frightful experience. So when thinking about the experience later we remember much more detail than a normal memory. in order to normalize it all we seem to feel that time slowed down.

Perfection
Jul 09, 2011, 12:52 PM
I would say there's a big difference between our perception of time and our actual abilities in time that's being glossed over, here. Time flying while your having fun versus time being slow sitting in the office doesn't mean you'd get more activity or thoughts in during the office times then while having fun.

Omega124
Jul 09, 2011, 09:20 PM
This reminds me of a really far-fetched plan I had for an infinite coma. Lucid Dream so you can manipulate the ratio of time so that for, say, ever year in the coma corresponds to .0000000001 second. You ever been in a coma? No? Then don't judge. :p

Anyways, I think this is very practical in many ways. Think about it, if we process infomation quicker, we have more time to react to any stimuli. For example, it may be possible for an average human to dodge a bullet (Until guns are invented that would work in slo-mo). Or perhaps you'll have enough time to get away from that falling object that would otherwise crush you. But I doubt that music would sound that way, Farsight. We'll just make songs that would be in sync to our new time perception.

peter grimes
Jul 10, 2011, 11:21 AM
Anyways, I think this is very practical in many ways. Think about it, if we process infomation quicker, we have more time to react to any stimuli. For example, it may be possible for an average human to dodge a bullet (Until guns are invented that would work in slo-mo). Or perhaps you'll have enough time to get away from that falling object that would otherwise crush you. But I doubt that music would sound that way, Farsight. We'll just make songs that would be in sync to our new time perception.

You're forgetting that the nervous system (the parts that transmit signals to muscles) and the muscle cells themselves are already locked into a certain speed. You'd have to replace the wetware with hardware. At that point you're talking about a cyborg. Certainly theoretically practical, but pretty far off from where we are today.

f35acepilot
Jul 10, 2011, 05:07 PM
I would say there's a big difference between our perception of time and our actual abilities in time that's being glossed over, here. Time flying while your having fun versus time being slow sitting in the office doesn't mean you'd get more activity or thoughts in during the office times then while having fun.

This thread reminds me of that guy in Catch-22 who tries to make his life seem longer by only doing things he hates. :lol:

This reminds me of a really far-fetched plan I had for an infinite coma. Lucid Dream so you can manipulate the ratio of time so that for, say, ever year in the coma corresponds to .0000000001 second. You ever been in a coma? No? Then don't judge.

I'm pretty sure this wouldn't work, as your mind can only process so much information in a limited time. So sure you could make every second a year, but those years could only be as detailed as you can imagine in a second.

Souron
Jul 11, 2011, 11:34 AM
I would say there's a big difference between our perception of time and our actual abilities in time that's being glossed over, here. Time flying while your having fun versus time being slow sitting in the office doesn't mean you'd get more activity or thoughts in during the office times then while having fun.Yes, but the OP ask the opposite: does having more activity done make the perception of time faster, so that the same lifespan life seems longer?

Personally, I think the answer is no.

reddishrecue
Jul 11, 2011, 02:59 PM
Most of those are usual facts and as time passes I guess we'll see the answer. There are some folks that do live a long life.

Narz
Jul 11, 2011, 07:09 PM
Sounds like torture. A half-hour being stuck in traffic would turn into 17 years. :ack:

Perfection
Jul 13, 2011, 12:07 AM
Yes, but the OP ask the opposite: does having more activity done make the perception of time faster, so that the same lifespan life seems longer?Well he's asking about the relationship between the two, I suppose. Clearly I should think there is one, but it's important that the two concepts not be muddled.

Personally, I think the answer is no.Why?