http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Di7qkdlm_rU/TheEfBN2dnI/AAAAAAAAATE/P9m1GaC1Vs0/s1600/waroftheworlds.jpeg
----------Mandatory Listening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqvwxvCOSH4)----------

Imperium OffTopicum: The Spirit of Man

Welcome! What you are about to partake in is based on a classic story that has been adapted for countless mediums.

This particular Imperium OffTopicum is based not on those failures that were called films, nor the famous and terrifying radio play, nor the classic bestseller of a novel but the Musical. Yes, the Musical known as Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of the War of the Worlds.

You will take on the role of one of the nations vying for power in Victorian Europe. You will have schemes and agendas, plans and ploys. But all this time you are being watched; watched by our jealous neighbors. You may fight petty wars and have minor rivalries with your brothers, you will kill them and they will kill you. But all the while these minds, vastly superior to ours, scrutinise us across the vastness of space.

And slowly and surely they draw their plans against us...

The Rules
Alrighty... Lets start at the basics:
If you do all that bad internet stuff (Spamming, trolling, whatever) then you get penalized.
If you RP like a pro then you get bonuses.
If you break the forum rules the Mods will come and eat you.
If you don't work as a team then you are going to die... Sad but true.
If you powergame then you're doing it wrong
If you pretend to powergame then something is wrong
If you want to complain about it being unbalanced then you don't get the point of the game.

Lets also talk about how you can join!
Pick 20 Territories on the overland map (The White and Grey one)
Fill in the following to whatever extent you want to:
Name: (The name of your nation)
Government: (It's Government type)
Capital: (This is crucial in the later game so be wary of it)
Socioeconomic Views: (Its the turn of the century so lets just say that anything goes)
Leader Name: (Name of the leader)
History: (Well... It don't have to be long...)
Traits: (What's special about your nation? Is it innovative, are its people brave and stubborn? Things like that. These will give your nation bonuses - If you RP this well later then those bonuses get bigger)
Flaws: (What are the flaws in your nations society? Large Upper-Lowe class gulf, Isolationist?)

So, I bet that now you want to ask about claiming?
Well, there is none.
This is late Victorian Europe. There isn't any unclaimed territory...
So, after I've put you all on the map I'll add some NPCs and expand your nation by historical borders from what I've gathered from your first post.
However later in the game you will get to expand into the "Brave New World" but I'll tell you about that when we get there.

So what can you do?
You can fight!
There are 4 kinds of Land unit that you can build:
Infantry
Artillery
Cavalry
And the Mysterious other one!!

You can build each unit for 1CP with a limit by the total number of territories you have. Each have their own strengths and weaknesses. When you go to war you can make a war plan detailing what you want your armis to do... Will you opt for a slow and steady approach or will you strike a blow deep into enemy territory? Anything goes!
In the early game you will want to try and gain territory through killing off the NPCs as that will be the only way you can expand (With the exception of killing each other) however in a few (randomly determined) turns something will happen...
After that you may have your hands full. And I stress it again - you will need to work as a team.

Navy
You can build fleets! Fleets are comprised of several ships. Ships cost 1CP to build but you can only make the same number of ships as you have coastal territories. They come in 4 catagories:
Pre-dreadnought Battleship
Torpedo Rams (HMS Thunderchild;))
Gunboats
Once again another Mysterious other...

Fleets can be used for 2 missions:
Patrol - A communal pool of ships that will fight Invasion Fleets
Invasion Fleets - Required to escort troops across seas - If you have a fleet then you can send any number of troops across the sea but if it is intercepted by a Patrol then you lose the troops.

Diplomacy:
It is the key.
Without it you wont win. Once the "event" happens you will need to work together to fight it off.
Until then you can get into alliances to fight each other and NPCs.
You can also bribe NPCs with CP to make them do things such as attack your enemies (Do this by sending me a PM). However if someone else has also tried to bribe them then they will look at their offer first. The lowest bid you can make is equal to a quarter (rounded) of the NPC's total number of territories.
There is always a chance of failure and some NPCs will be more susceptible to bribery than others.
To influence an NPC the minimum bid is a half of their current number of territories. Influencing an NPC alows you to decide their diplomatic policy and how they will spend their CPs.
You can also seize an NPC which you gain all of their Territories. This costs 4 times the amount of Territories they control. If were already Influencing them then you gain half their Infrastructure, if you have been influencing them for at least 2 turns then you get the whole lot. You must have a land border with an NPC to Seize it. If one nation is influencing an NPC then it can only be seized by them unless they are outbid.

Infrastructure:
You can expend 5CP to build extra Infrastructure. Each infrastructure gives one extra CP. You can only build one per turn for every 10 territories you control.

Each territory provides 1CP

Events
Both random and scripted events will happen.
Everything from Parson Nathaniel's escape from the martian to an earthquake in Sarajevo. Anything can happen.

Also, I mentioned earlier that you will be able to expand into the Brave New World...
I'll tell you about that when we get to it.



Each Turn now will last a month; to keep up with this the prices of some things have been changed:
Infantry: 4
Cavalry: 6
Artillery: 6
Pre-Dreadnaught Battleships: 15
Gunboats: 7
Torpedo Rams: 7
Infrastructure: 25
CP can now be saved from Turn to Turn (However you can never save more than you make in a single turn)
All NPC actions remain the same price

The Map

http://i.imgur.com/VSI0r.png

NPCs:

Players:
Northern European Trade Federation (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10914670&postcount=4) - Sonereal
The Ottoman Empire (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10914699&postcount=6) - Red Spy
Christos (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10914730&postcount=7) - Christos
Deutsches Reich (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10915541&postcount=72) - Brave Sir Tyo
The New Roman (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10914831&postcount=19) (Twilight Sparkle) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10914874&postcount=33) Empire (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10914831&postcount=19) - Linkman226
The "Can't be bothered" States (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10914829&postcount=18) - Double A
Kingdom of Wallachia (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10915130&postcount=46) - Kinich-Ahau
Sweden (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10915256&postcount=54) - momo1000
Poland (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10914989&postcount=43) - Omega124
Socialist Republic of Iceland (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10915210&postcount=53) - Moshter
Kaisertum Österreich (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10915531&postcount=70) - mechaerik

-Reserved-

Name: Northern European Trade Federation (NETF)
Government: Aristocratic Republic
Capital: London
Socioeconomic Views: Mixed Market leaning to Free Market
Leader Name: Fawne Till
History: The Northern European Trade Federation formed following the violent socialist upheavals of the 1870s and 1880s. The aristocracy and capitalists, fearing that the original government wasn't doing enough to protect their interests, bribed key military leaders to overthrow the governments and replace it with one in which only the Top 25% of those in income can vote. The military is used quite often and freely in dealing with labor riots and the formation of labor unions, especially those of socialist ideology.
Traits: Cunning, Diplomatic, Traders, Espionage-focused
Flaws: High income disparity


Robert, your map is messed up. Look at mine and see what I mean.

Hmn... That's odd.
I'll try and re-upload it.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=302724&stc=1&d=1316962466
Is that better?

Name: Ottoman Empire
Government: Theocratic Monarchy
Capital: Istanbul Not Constantinople.
Socioeconomic: Mixed Market
Leader Name: Sultan Abdülmecid
History: In the 1870's., the once mighty Ottoman Empire was seeing its final hours. It lost the war for Greek Independence, and part of the Middle East and Turkey rebelled. Broken, it seemed that the empire was a dead man walking. But it could not surrender, it must fight to the end. Sultan Abdülmecid ascended into the throne, and promised that the mighty days of the old will be here again.
Traits: Religious, Aggressive
Flaws: No Freedom of Religion, Backwards, Poverty

Map:

http://i.imgur.com/z8uMU.png



Edit: I will edit the new map.

Edit2: Edited in.

Flag: http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g394/christos200/gr-alt.gif

Name: Greece

Government: Federal republic

Capital: Athens

Socioeconomic Views: Mixed economy

Leader Name: Prime minister George papandreou

History: At 1821 A.D greece, after a 7 year war of indepedence, managed to gain its indepedence. Greece was divided in a bunch of city states and small kingdoms hostile to each other. The king of macedonia, alexander, and the president of athens, George papandreou, manged in a 12 year war to unite greece.

Traits: Brave men, love for democracy, very religious.

Flaws: Isolationism, racism, fanatical orthodox christians.

Claims (red colour):

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g394/christos200/svxxi.png

I'm not home so I can't really claim, but reserve the Prussian area for me till I do?

I'm not home so I can't really claim, but reserve the Prussian area for me till I do?

Will do, don't worry.

Added history.

Edited history.

I can't claim right now, but leave southeastern Russia empty please?

I can't claim right now, but leave southeastern Russia empty please?

Sure. I'll reserve it.

I will create 10 Infantry, 5 Artillery and 5 Cavalry.

I will create 10 Infantry, 5 Artillery and 5 Cavalry.

No orders until after the initial update.

Also, what's everyone thoughts on having a UN-like Social group or not?

Hm.... Maybe a Diplo Group?

Also, what's everyone thoughts on having a UN-like Social group or not?

Maybe there should be the Holy alliance.

http://i.imgur.com/SCXOl.jpg
Name: Antipapal States
Government: Theocracy
Capital: Avignon (gold-ish province)
Socioeconomic Views: Mixed, leaning towards free
Leader Name: Antipope
History: In the year 1348, Pope Clement VI bought Avignon from Queen Joan I of Naples for 80,000 florins. Afterwards, during the course of the Great Schism, Avignon was inhabited by a series of Antipopes, or men who claim to be Pope when another man is wearing a funny hat. In 1823, Leo XII got his hands on the high hat of sillyness, Antipope Stefanus I of Burgundy rose up and took control of Avignon. He was assassinated six months later by the Swiss. However, when the New Roman Empire rose, another man tried his luck at the Antipapacy: He styled himself Antipope Ezio I, and took control of Avignon with his vast fortune. The French seemed to not care, as they were in the midst of yet another civil war, when Napoleon III attempted to usurp the new Third French Republic.

The war still raged on in France after Napoleon found unlikely allies in Spain. Ezio I took advantage of the confusion and bought a small military for himself, annexing the entire region of Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, except for the wealthy city Marseille. Ezio knew the value of this city would be best kept intact without fighting, so he simply bribed the officials to hand it over. From his small empire, Ezio built a navy to conquer the Mediterranean through commerce.

In 1887, Ezio saw another opportunity: Northern Italy was at war. Ezio quickly allied with the struggling Venice and laid waste to the armies of Savoy, Milan, and Genoa, gobbling up their lands (as well as Sardinia and northern Corsica) in the process. Over the next 10 years, the aging Antipope increased his influence in the merchant republic, rendering it little more than a puppet state. This outward focus would be the deciding factor in many future Antipapal conflicts.

In 1890, the growing Kingdom of Andorra invaded Barcelona. Ezio saw his chance to make yet another difference: He allied with the mountain people and divided the Barcelonan lands between them. By now, he had allied with the Pope-hating Romans, who had effectively rendered him the only contender for the Papacy. With allies in every direction but the north, colonists were sent to the Aegean to establish new trade outposts. Antipapal merchants set up a small trade port on the island of Malta, as it was one of the first places that had accepted the Antipope as Pope. The Knights of Saint John were given land and their fortress rebuilt, so that they could protect pilgrims once again. Another outpost was built on the struggling Rhodes, and the populate was converted to Catholicism - with Ezio as Pope. The Anti in his name was merely a formality at this point, unless the Swiss were concerned.

The growing Swiss Confederation had long before been the personal guardians of the Pope in the form of the Swiss Guard, and were none too happy that the Antipope and his allies, the New Roman Empire, had basically put them out of the job. In 1891, they declared war on the meddling Antipapacy. However, Ezio had been looking into steam as a viable power source for machinery to utilize coal deposits in Spain and France, and needless to say, (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DOBXQDAPwmg/TKZ52OQH8XI/AAAAAAAAFcI/Z8f-PBB3iLo/s1600/Battank_by_Waldemar_Kazak.jpg) the war was very one-sided until the Antipapal forces reached the Alps, where the Swiss were able to utilize their home terrain to create nasty ambushes. The war ended in 1893 with an uneasy peace treaty, which granted the Antipapacy the lands it conquered. The Swiss resented their enemy and still saw him as illegitimate, but Ezio could care less: He was dying.

On his deathbed, Ezio dictated his successes and the reasons why to his trusted bodyguard and friend, Anticardinal Luigi il Verde. This book, 101 Ways to Conquer Everyone Else as the Antipope, was to be passed to his Antipapal successors so they could continue the existence of the greatest theocracy known to man. Ezio died the first day of 1894, and Luigi was elected Antipope by the Anticardinals. Luigi took the name Ezio II to honor his friend, but so far has done little other than consolidate his power since then… at least on the surface. He also eyes France, as fractured as it is (Napoleon did a real number on it). Burgundy, Normandy, Brittany, Aquitaine, Switzerland, Andorra, and Holland all eye each other like ravenous dogs, but only time will tell who proves to be the victor in the coming struggle, and how the Antipope will react.

Note: If someone claims “France” or “Spain,” I will stab them. Also, that was only the major factions. There are probably small ones (Calais, Paris, etc) too. Have fun, Robbie.
Traits: Catholic, traders, diplomatic, hardened by religious wars
Flaws: several medieval systems kept intact, large income disparity, no religious freedom (duh), not viewed as legitimate by some Catholics (esp. northern French, political opponents, and the Pope), military is mainly Frenchmen
http://i.imgur.com/wuX9x.png

Scratch that.

I give to you,

THE NEW ROMAN EMPIRE

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KvvVkL2VlkA/S7M4Mbq49bI/AAAAAAAAAIs/vJ3i6VwLb6c/s1600/Flag-Holy-Roman-Empire.pngalt=

Claims:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2319/nre.png

Name: The New Roman Empire
Government: Parliamentarian Democracy
Capital: Roma
Socioeconomic Views: Current party in power endorses Syndicalism
Leader Name: President Claudia Domitia Titiana
History
Traits: The Roman people are motivated by a strong sense of justice.
Flaws: Some bureaucratic inefficiency

NINJA'D.

Ha.

Linkman226 can you change your colour? I have already taken the red coulor.

NINJA'D.

Ha.

FFFUUUUU----

Ok, claim the province in which Alexandria would be and the one next to it.

Linkman226 can you change your colour? I have already taken the red coulor.

FFFUUUU--- also

Will change soon

... Why is Greece red?

Look, a group!! (http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=638)

Greece needs to be light blue.

I like better the red colour.

Greece needs to be light blue.

I'll go with that.

Rome can be red and Greece Blue.

Is that alright with everyone?

No, no and no.

In the history of the world, when someone thinks of the color, you are the first to think of Greece.

Everyone else thinks of England, Rome, or America. Everyone.

Save Sweden, more info later

I dont care. I posted first.

Well, generally Greece is represented by the blue on its flag, that is all.

Allright- I'll do Rome as Purple.
They were quite a purple people - all brave warriors are purple.
http://sharetv.org/images/my_little_pony_friendship_is_magic/cast/large/twilight_sparkle.jpg

Edit: Sweden Saved

:lol::lol::lol:

Purple is secondary, but still awesome.

christos, there isn't a scrap of red on your flag.

I dont realy care. :D

It's just a color. Move on please.

But it's the best color.

I got red first. :D:lol::lol::cool:

But it's the best color.

Have you seen the colour green recently?

But its taken :p

But its taken :p

Its still an Epic colour...

Name: Poland
Government: Republic
Capital: Krakow
Socioeconomic Views: Lazzies-Faire (I decided I'll be my obligitary commie state next IOT)
Leader Name: Later
History: Later
Traits: We have a proud history about a thousand years, and we are used to being exploited and just carry on when it does
Flaws: The world doesn't consider Poland a nation; just something in between Prussia and Russia

Claims changed- bluish purple adopted. Kindly refrain from mocking my country.

Claims changed- bluish purple adopted. Kindly refrain from mocking my country.

Nobody mocked your country as far as I know.

Name: Kingdom of Wallachia
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Capital: Bran, Braşov
Socioeconomic Views: Mixed Market, heavily leaning towards Free Market.
Leader Name: King Victor Vlad Driconia
Influencial Citizens: Dr. Franz Frinkanstin (Brother-in-Law to the King)
Ivan (Lead Admiral)
Oentipathir (Lead General)
Alin Driconia (Princess of Wallachia)
Victor was born to a rich Romanian Family. He was a gifted boy, if a bit esoteric. He was sent to France for much of his adolescence, so that he could receive one of the finest educations Europe could offer. While attending a University in Paris, he discovered, through meticulous study, that he was a descendant of Vlad the Impaler. Stricken with ambition, he proceeded to flee the country & change his middle name to Vlad. Once in Romania, he gathered a large group of disgruntled military leaders & led a coup against the House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, current rulers of Romania. The revolution was bloody, though ultimately successful, & Victor became the undisputed king of Romania. Mad with power & ambition, he conceived a plan to conquer the old Austro-Hungarian Empire & instituted a series of reforms. Said reforms included increased funding for scientists, less restrictions on the military, & a name change from Romania to Wallachia.

High Scientific funding results in a greater rate of advancement than other European powers.
Victor’s paranoia causes the Kingdom to maintain a large & well trained spy network.
The military is extremely well equipped & recruitment has increased due to Victor’s Imperial Ambitions

.

Victor allows the church to wield a disproportionate amount of power
Only about 60% of the citizens support his rule

http://i.imgur.com/o3WQB.png

Poland is 19 territories, Poland can haz 20.

Name: Kingdom of Wallachia


Yay, a new country!

Everyone wants to make me mad.

Totally in, just give me a bit to decide who and make the flag and stuff.

Titus Flavius Josephus would like to announce the creation of a new world map.Poland is oddly small :OOC:Polan only has 19 provinces:OOC:

:OOC:I look forward to the Balkan wars :lol::OOC:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9438/worldjy.png

Poland is 19 territories, Poland can haz 20.

It doesn't really matter because everyone's going to get some nice free territories anyway:

So, after I've put you all on the map I'll add some NPCs and expand your nation by historical borders from what I've gathered from your first post.

Totally in, just give me a bit to decide who and make the flag and stuff.

No worries but I'm going to be doing the Update tomorrow night seeing as after that I won't be able to until Friday.

Socialist Republic of Iceland

http://i.imgur.com/9h3ct.png



Government: Parliamentary Republic
Capital: Reykjavik
Socioeconomic Views: Flirting with communism, with all steel and weapons industry controlled by the government. Free market otherwise.
Leader Name: Prime Minister BRYNJAR Ericcson
History: The Icelandic people, after cruel oppression from their oppressors in Denmark, rebelled against them, seizing all Danish holdings in Iceland and defeating all of the present military forces. After a quick peace was signed with the Danish Empire, Iceland receded into seclusion from the world, with little influence from any nearby nations. However, after hearing that the Danish Empire had dissolved into civil war and strife, the Icelandic army invaded Norway. Another invasion fleet, capturing Copenhagen, ended the war - and brought Iceland out as a world power.
Traits: The Icelandic nation is a hardened warrior society, praising courage and rewarding honour. They are often headstrong and stubborn, and when enraged, rarely listen to reason.
Flaws: Iceland is still very isolationist, only recently coming to mainland Europe, and the people are, as said above, headstrong and stubborn.

Name: The Kingdom of Sweden
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: Stockholm
Socioeconomic Views: Free Market, but very Liberal
Leader Name: King Gustav I

History: As the dominant power in Scandinavia, Sweden holds immense influence over the rest of the region. It is a very liberal country, with equal rights for all and free religion.

Traits: Liberal, Non-interventionist (though will put up quite a fight if engaged)

Flaws: Very lax on crime and drug use
http://i.imgur.com/63zTG.png

Why do those 3 Swedish lakes look like provinces?

Why do those 3 Swedish lakes look like provinces?

I figured they were lakes because the border is bigger around them.

Probably a color error.

I figured they were lakes because the border is bigger around them.

They're definitely lakes. Like Tyo said, probably a color error, as seen north of the Peloponnesus.

They're definitely lakes. Like Tyo said, probably a color error, as seen north of the Peloponnesus.

It ain't my map but I've tried to correct such errors as I've been going along. Thanks for pointing this out.

I decided to be Austria, map and other data coming soon.

It doesn't really matter because everyone's going to get some nice free territories anyway:




No worries but I'm going to be doing the Update tomorrow night seeing as after that I won't be able to until Friday.

I know. Thanks. But how do you decide what free territories we get? Will it be equal?

I know. Thanks. But how do you decide what free territories we get? Will it be equal?

I've decided that it wont be equal but they won't be vastly different.
Close enough so nobody has too great an advantage but diverse enough to add interest.

-Also as a base rule I've decided the better the RP the more territories (But that is only a guideline and will be overruled by historical borders)

So, if I wrote the IOT equivalent of Faust saying I had all of France...

Yep...

Damn, I should probably get on that.

So, I might get all the Ottoman Empire's? Nice.

So, I might get all the Ottoman Empire's? Nice.

No... I already have a plan for you my friend... *Distant Laughter*

Edit:

Iceland, do you mind being a different colour like a shade of blue rather than red since its already been taken and argued over previously.

So all of the Roman Empire for myself?

Presuming a good RP, which I'm working on.

http://i.imgur.com/qfkr0.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy.svg/500px-Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy.svg.png
http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/mechaerik/Other%20IOT%20Stuff/SpiritOfMan/SpiritOfManMap.png

Kaisertum Österreich
Austrian Empire

Government: Absolute Monarchy
Capital: Wein/Vienna (You find it on the map, I don't know which one it is)
Socioeconomic: Most important industries are operated by the government, and people in its favor recieve large subsidies.
Leader Name: Kaiser Franz Joseph I
Religion: Roman Catholic
History: After the failure of the Augsleich of 1867, Hungary declared its independence and initiated a war against the Austrian Empire. The Austrian Army fought valiantly, but couldn't stop Hungary from achieving its goal of taking most of Hungary. Since then, the Empire has become terrified of losing more territory, and has begun a severe campaign of repression against non-Austrians. This campaign has borne some fruit, and talk of independence in those territories is rare. However, the harsh reprisals against those whispers has breed resent, and the few that do dare to speak against the Austrian domination do so vitriolically.

The Austrians themselves also pressure the Emperor. Austrian liberals speak harshly of the campaign of nationalist repression, the socialists speak harshly of the monarchy in general, and the conservatives and reactionaries demand to reclaim the lost territories of Hungary, Illyria, and Venetia. In an attempt to please his political allies, the Kaiser has recently launched an aggressive attack to reclaim its lost territories, to return to the glory it once had when it ruled the Holy Roman Empire. But it may not be enough. Surrounded by opposition from just about all sides, and having survived a few assassination attempts, Kaiser Franz Joseph I has begun to go paranoid, seeing enemies in every shadow. With the instability of the country and resentment from every quarter, he may just be correct.

Traits: Imperialistic, vaguely religious
Flaws: Internal ethnic tensions, rampant revanchism, slightly paranoid.

Greece wants to have no relations with the muslim barbs also know as ottomans.

Name: Deutsches Reich
[The German Empire](Kingdom of Prussia if historic claims aren't as large as I'd hoped.)
Government: Federal Monarchy
Capital: Berlin(Red in attached)
Socioeconomic Views: Protectionist
Leader Name: Otto Von Bismarck
History: After the Napoleonic Wars, rising from the ashes of the Holy Roman Empire, the German Confederation was created in 1815 between many German states. Lead by Prussia, the Confederation underwent war after war in attempt to unify Germany in the name of Prussia. As it expanded with the help of Otto Von Bismarck, current leader of unified Germany, its ambitions grew to dominate all of the German states under Prussia as a one true German state. Bismarck's Realpolitik reorganized Germany in order to do so; reorganizing its economy, politics, military, and diplomatic relations. The goal became reality when three successful military campaigns, the Second War of Schleswig in 1864, the Astro-Prussian War in 1866, and the Franco-Prussian War in 1870(71) persuaded the German states to join with Prussia.

Traits: Germany is a very nationalist and industrious nation. Their leader, Bismarck, keeps national feeling strong, making German's civilians very patriotic. Protestant majority. It is also an example of a growing welfare state.

Flaws: Most of Germany's population is Protestant, unlike the Catholic majority in Europe. Needless to say, most Catholic nations don't take kindly to Germany. No religious freedom, Catholics and Jews are verbally persecuted quite often, Jews more-so. Somewhat isolationist due to Protectionist economic views.

No... I already have a plan for you my friend... *Distant Laughter*

Edit:

Iceland, do you mind being a different colour like a shade of blue rather than red since its already been taken and argued over previously.

Yeah, sure, that's fine!

Prussia - stay out of Denmark, and we'll be fine with you, for the most part.

A History of the New Roman Empire
by Titus Flavius Josephus

The New Roman Empire rose out of Italian turmoil following the unification of Italy in 1871. Despite Garibaldi's and Cavour's best efforts, the newly formed Italian state did not last, as sections of Italy once again seceded to form the Principality of Sicily, the New Venetian Republic, and the Kingdoms of Genoa, Piedmont, and Savoy (later, the last three would be devoured by the Anti-Papacy at Avignon). By 1877, after numerous secessions, Italy was reduced to a rump state consisting of merely the city of Roma and its immediate vicinity. In 1881, with the city Roma slowly fracturing to internal Papist dissent and external attack, a charismatic general who styled himself as Hercules Mercurius Evander came in control of the city of Roma. The Roman proletariat, so long oppressed, backed him in a People's Revolution. Establishing a temporary junta to run the city, he cracked down on Papist dissent, jailed the Pope, and began a counterattack on external enemies.

In 1885, having united most of central Italy, he send two expeditions outwards. In the wake of the collapsing Ottoman Empire, the area around the old city of Carthago had been taken over by warring states and kingdoms. Taking advantage of the chaos, a female general named Tatiana Valeria Horatia conquered Carthage and the surrounding area, thereby becoming known as Tatiana Africanus.

In Spain, a raging civil war permitted the burgeoning Roman state to establish a series of colonies all along the eastern coast of Spain.

In 1890 an insurrection took place in the Italian country side. As a result, the General's plans to establish a colony in Egypt were temporarily foiled. The insurrection had been caused by the old elite who had been stripped of their wealth. This is generally regarded as the last dying gasp of the ancien regime, a last ditch effort by capitalist pigs to once again oppress the weak.

With the insurrection out of the way, Roma turned here eyes eastward, towards Egypt. Establishing a colony at Alexandria, which the Ottoman Empire had just abandoned months before to roving bands of rebels, brought another shining beacon of old Roman power into the Empire.

General Evander declared a new state, a New Roman Empire, before relinquishing power to democratic forces in 1895. At the end of his rule he had expanded the frontiers of Roma to cover a good section of Middle Italy as well as establishing several important colonies in places of great importance to the Old Roman Empire.

The General's Party, the Evanderian Party, remains the majority party to the present day, advocating for syndicalism and workplace democracy.

Now, at the dawn of a new century, things look inestimably bright for this fledgling empire. Only an improbably advanced race from outer space bent on the destruction of humanity could stop Roma now.

No... I already have a plan for you my friend... *Distant Laughter*

Edit:

Iceland, do you mind being a different colour like a shade of blue rather than red since its already been taken and argued over previously.

Should I be worried?

Yeah, sure, that's fine!

Prussia - stay out of Denmark, and we'll be fine with you, for the most part.

Wasn't planning on it, just wanted that part. That part is fine, right?

We'd rather have it, but as long as you do not expand north of it, we will not shatter the peace.

King Victor Vlad Driconia would like to extend a full diplomatic salutation to the states of Austria & Prussia. May your nations have a long & prosperous existence
-Wallachain Ambassador

Now, at the dawn of a new century, things look inestimably bright for this fledgling empire. Only an improbably advanced race from outer space bent on the destruction of humanity could stop Roma now.

I propose that if the game literally dies due to us sucking at cooperation, we revert back to before this happens and keep playing normally.

I propose that if the game literally dies due to us sucking at cooperation, we revert back to before this happens and keep playing normally.

Seconded.

Edit: Never mind

Edit: Just so's everyone known the date is currently 1898

I propose that if the game literally dies due to us sucking at cooperation, we revert back to before this happens and keep playing normally.

Or we could start a second IOT, as oppressed rebel nations as the martians occupy the planet.

Or we could start a second IOT, as oppressed rebel nations as the martians occupy the planet.

I think that's what this game is going to do, except for the word "oppressed" you substitute "systematically destroyed."

:lol: Or we could just wait underground until they all die.

With 10 players I think we've got enough to get started.
There'll be Plenty of NPCs for people to take over afterwards.

OOC: Robert Can't, why haven't you linked Wallachia to the second post?

Awfully sorry. I must have forgotten (Your on the map so don't worry too much).

Wait, wait! Let me sign up! Give me a few minutes to make a nation and upload a map! Ill be starting in africa.

5 minutes. Thats all I need. :D

I made a (basically entirely military) history.

I made a (basically entirely military) history.

And I have a history based on Liberalism, Science, and Civil rights. Oh and this man is our national hero (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo&feature=related)

Well I am basically seen as a heretic by a lot of people. Also steampunk.

Wait, wait! Let me sign up! Give me a few minutes to make a nation and upload a map! Ill be starting in africa.

5 minutes. Thats all I need. :D

Where in Africa, praytell?

I made a (basically entirely military) history.

Well... Suddenly you have quite a few more territories.

Not too many. But rather a lot all the same.

The Portuguese Empire
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Name: The Portuguese Empire
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: Lisbon (purple territory)
Socioeconomic Views: Market economy (free market/free trade)
Leader Name: King Antonio III
History: Will add later
Traits: Imperialist, proud, liberal (in terms of classical liberalism), secular
Flaws: Tendency to heavily exploit colonial peoples, anti-clerical

Sorry about the color, couldn't remember which were already taken, just give me a random one.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2307/portugeuseempire.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/97/portugeuseempire.png/)

Well... Suddenly you have quite a few more territories.

Not too many. But rather a lot all the same.

Rhodes could be contested with Ottomans, Greeks, or Rhodians, I didn't specifically say which French territories I took from the Swiss (other than that I need to border them), and I never said how much power Venice had. I left it intentionally ambiguous.

Name: Afrikaan Purple Diamond Empire
Government: Empire (Led by The Emperor, however, the day to day powers reside in the Council of Warlords, which bear representatives from all 107 regions of the empire, and all contribute their own armies to the overall empire so it can keep expanding. They also keep an elected official as their assistant in order to keep in touch with the people, and to handle more administrative sorts of tasks for them.)
Capital: The 'known' capitol is in Hriskanas (SE corner of the lighter territory on map), however the location of the Home of the Emperor and the Royal Court is unknown except to that of a few trusted minds, hidden deep in Africa. All foreign affairs are technically taken care of in Hriskanas though, which is somehow kept in constant and reliable contact with the fabled Amignos.
Socioeconomic Views: Capitalist Economy with alot of basic rights, even the right to vote in their elected officials from each region, however limited their powers might be by the warlords. Also, government has alot of influence on companies and taxes them heavily.
Leader Name: Emperor Athol X
History: The history of the APDE is a complex and complicated tale of several thousand years. Believed to be founded by the revered King Bracht I the day before he died (approximately 12-7 BC depending on the source), and built to survive the ages by his son, King Athol I. It started when Bracht brought together several powerful tribes in the valleys of eastern Africa when he defeated them in a simultaneous duel against him in order to claim the Purple Diamond, the symbol of the ruler of this new empire. It has always been considered sacred, and has led the people whom follow its chosen ruler to success and prosperity.

His son Athol I, took the power his father had obtained, and at the age of 19 ruled the new found empire with an iron fist, and slowly started taking over tribes in the nearby valleys and mountains. Yet at the same time, he consolidated his lands and created a Warlord system to last the ages. The warlords swore loyalty to the emperor alone, and were his trusted servants, raising armies of their people to conquer new tribes over the years.

The system succeeded in conquering most of Africa over the next 1700 years. By then, they had repulsed several european invasions, and had managed to end up controlling large amounts of Muslim territory. It had always had a policy of isolationism to other peoples besides conquering them, yet towards the end of the 1700's the great King Bracht III proclaimed himself emperor of Africa instead of a mere king, and opened the doors to other civilizations, both for trade and diplomacy. Since then, Africa has prospered like it has never had before, copying european advances, sometimes bettering them and sending them back to make riches. However, the rise of capitalism in this period has created a class of people in desperate poverty, often levied into armies for constant conquests. These conquests have not been frequent of late though, since the failed invasion of Iraq in 1873. After that the empire's armies were forced to retreat back to Mecca and the western coast of the Arabian peninsula, and it was decided to consolidate its already held territories for a few years before renewing its attacks...however it holds an unofficial truce with most nation of southern and western europe, as such a war would leave all nations involved brutally scarred. Europe still manages to keep better quality armies, at least in the west, even if they have far fewer men to field in those armies.

Traits: Proud, Expansionist, Stubborn, Somewhat Savage, Diverse Culturally and Religiously, Warlike, Creative
Flaws: Subject to constant civil wars every couple of decades due to such diverse cultures and so many religions within the empire, as well as most of the subjects of the empire having a large spot in their hearts for the rare Purple diamonds.

RP will come soon too. if it doesnt get up tonight though, expect it towards the end of the week.

arya or CF need to change a territory. Borders would look better if CF dropped the contested one, but it's not really up to me.

I'll drop the territory and grab Gibraltar.

Wait for just a bit while I sign up!

A History of the New Roman Empire in the Year (1895- 1896)
by Titus Flavius Josephus the Elder

The new democratic government was voted in with surprising calm. The Evanderian party won a vast majority of seats in Parliament and the President, Laelia Mariana Alba, was of that party as well. The Evanders promised further expansion around the Mediterranean.

In 1895, a treaty was brokered between Avignon and Roma that gave supremacy of Northern Italy to the Antipapacy. The Principality of Bologna, a fiefdom of the Venetian Republic, itself a protectorate of Avignon, was handed over to Roma. In exchange, Roma would not contest Northern Italy further.

In the same year, several large Roman delegations were sent to every state of Italy south of Roma. Their request was simple: rejoin the growing Roman state or perish.

Several, seeing the rising might of Roma and seeking protection against other enemies, joined with Roma. They were known as the socii, vassals of Roma that were treated in a equitable manner. Most of Southern Italy joined in this manner.

The sole exception was the Kingdom of Sicily. Although several of her subjugates and vassals rebelled and joined Roma, the regions of Sicily, Calabria, and Puglia remained loyal to her. For nine months a vicious war raged in Southern Italy. At the end of the war Roma reigned victorious, but heavy casualties hurt both sides. All of Italy was now Roman save for the Avignonese territory to the North, but Roma would take some time to rebuild.

The year 1895 also saw a depression in the Roman economy. Several exoduses of the Roman population resulted. Of particular importance for later history, two principalities were established in Northern Africa by Roman citizens, one west of Carthage and the other in Cyrenaica.

In 1896, with a recovering economy, Roma demanded that these Northern African states recognize Roma as their supreme ruler. Although disinclined to do so initially, the two states finally agreed to call themselves vassals of the Roman Empire after a show of military force by Roma. In this manner a significant section of North Africa came under Roman control.

The most disastrous event in the past has almost certainly been the ongoing war against the Spanish. Repeated attempts have been made to extend the Roman Empire further inland into the Iberian Peninsula but have bet with little success. As Napoleon and the Old Roman Empire learned, Spanish guerrillas as truly a force to be reckoned with. For now, Roma is only able to control the peripheral territories of Iberia.

Apart from Tambien

NO MORE SIGN UPS

I've got a good balance of Territories/Player so hopefully Tambien won't throw it out of balance.

This also means no more story claiming either...

Sorry but by this point I've already 3/4 written the update so new plot twists aren't appreciated.

-----------see below-----------------

NOOOOOOOOO

YOU KILLED ANDORRA

Also, cutting me off like that was kind of a dick move.

Uh, isn't that Castille, not Aragon? :p

hopefully Tambien won't throw it out of balance.

I could have handled anything in Easter Europe or Russia... But Spain!!!:blush::mad:

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The Kingdom of Aragon
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Government: Constitutional Republic
Capital: Zaragosa
Socioeconomic Views: Capitalist, with a few social programs
Leader Name: Ramiro II
History: The Kingdom of Aragon was established by Ramiro I when Spain collapsed.
Traits: Stubborn, Defensive, Creative, Lucky
Flaws: Nationalist, Large Upper-Lower Class Gulf, Small Middle Class, the Western part is very polluted from former Spanish factories

The Map:
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9059/aragonclaims.png

I'm sorry but there simply isn't enough room in Spain. Can I suggest that you move to Russia or the Balkans?

Balkans? Have you looked at your own map?

Alright, new stats coming soon.

Balkans? Have you looked at your own map?

There's a little gap...

It's small but I could fit a Bosnia/Serbia nation in.

There isn't a single PC in Russia.

So....Tambien essentially just pissed off the GM, the Antipope, the allies of the Antipope, Andorra which it just conquered......did I miss anybody?

Have fun Tambien!

Courland
http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/timelines/courland_small.png

Formal name: Duchy of Courland and Semigallia.

Type of government: Constitutional monarchy.

Head of State: His Grace Duke Alexander I, Duke of Courland and Semigallia.

Royal family: House of Potemkin.

Parliament: Diet of Courland.

Capital city: Mitau. The Duke rules from the Mitau Palace.

Socioeconomic Views: Capitalist, with a few social programs.

Currency: Courland thaler, pegged to Russian rouble.

Religion: Lutheranism and Roman Catholicism, with an Orthodox minority.

History: Duchy of Courland and Semigallia was established when the Alexander I expanded the borders of the City of Mitau.

Traits: Stubborn, Defensive, Creative, Lucky.

Flaws: Nationalist, Large Upper-Lower Class Gulf, Small Middle Class, very cold.

The Map:
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6892/courlandclaims.png

Awesome name is awesome.

Kingdom of Aragon in the Baltics :crazyeye:

Awesome name is awesome.
thanks :D

Kingdom of Aragon in the Baltics :crazyeye:
umm..... what? This is a completely different nation. If you google Courland you will find that is is actually near where it historically is. :D

It said Kingdom of Aragon before you edited the name.

Posted this in the SG.

It's a chat for the game!
http://jwwotw.chatango.com/

can I get a link/invite to the SG?

Check SG Central.

Update will be up by this evening.

IRAQ
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Name: The Iraqi Goverment Of Iraq
Government: Baathist
Capital: Baghdad
Socioeconomic: Mixed Market
Leader Name: Saddam Hussein
History: Some shyt happened and there you go.
Traits: Religious, Aggressive
Flaws: No Freedom of speech, Backwards, Poverty

IRAQ
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Name: The Iraqi Goverment Of Iraq
Government: Baathist
Capital: Baghdad
Socioeconomic: Mixed Market
Leader Name: Saddam Hussein
History: Some shyt happened and there you go.
Traits: Religious, Aggressive
Flaws: No Freedom of speech, Backwards, Poverty

I'll have to add you as the NPC controlling that area as the map and all the maths is already done so I can't add you as a separate nation.

Update incoming.

London
June 13th, 1875

The putrid smell of death, fire, and dust filled a young Fawne Till's nose with hostile sensation. Part of the coup forces, Fawne Till served as a mere soldier. The 1860 Coup had been successful but it was only a matter of time before the people grew agitated. Today, his countrymen were making a stand against the government.

Left. Left. Left, right, left.

Rioters marching on Parliament! Thousands of them armed with stones, bottles, chains, and the occasional revolver plus whatever their poor, grubby hands could get a hold of. If the rebel leaders thought a show of force would get disaffected soldiers in the New Royal Army to mutiny, they were sorely mistaken!

"Aim!"

Fawne Till got down on one knee and took aim. A line of soldiers behind him stood but the barrel of their rifles still glared daggers at the approaching crowd. The solid weight of the steel knife at the end of his rifle provided comfort the round in his rifle couldn't. The rioters stopped marching but didn't turn back.

"Go back to your homes!" yelled an officer. "Drop your weapons and return to your homes! One step further and the Provisional Government will not be held responsible for what happens afterwards."

Someone fired. Fawne didn't know which side fired first but soon, the whistle was blown and rifles barked. Dozens of rioters crumpled. The rioters charged but the second line fired as the first reloaded. Dozens more were swathed down like a field in front of a reaper.

But there are so many of them! One, two, three, four more volleys before the rioters reached the line. Many rioters charged straight into the bayonets. As quickly as it started, it ended. Rifles barked down the street and soon, the mass of rioters had been infected with panic and boxed in by approaching soldiers. A cannon boomed, landing in the center of the mass....

Soldiers charged in, bayonets raised.

I thought sign-ups were closed?

Edited the 1st Post with new NPC diplomacy options.

Update inbound with in 20-30 mins.

Pre-Game State of Affairs
of
The Northern European Trade Federation

The State of Affairs Memorandum will be short and simple for little of note has occurred as of yet.

Political

Fawne Till's Nationalist Economist Party continues to hold a majority in parliament. Nonetheless, the Populist Party gained seats in the last election. The current government is supportive of military interventions provided the benefits outweigh the freedom and peace of trade.

The NEP is a jingoistic supporter of the free market.

Military

Currently, there is no "military" in the "Spirit of Man" sense of the word due to reorganization. The Royal Army, under Fawne Till, has received modernization in the form of the 1898 Bess Rifle and 1895 Grand Slam 8-inch artillery piece. The only army in Europe to have these weapons is currently the Ottoman Empire (see tensions section for further information).

Trade

The current administration, true to form, has aggressively pursued trade agreement with all nations across Europe where possible. The most important trade agreement is the Comprehensive Trade Agreement of 1897 with the Ottoman Empire.

Diplomacy

The NETF has strong ties with Iceland, Austria, and the Ottoman Empire and shares warm relations with the rest of Europe except Greece at the time of writing. Greece severed ties after Fawne Till signed a mutual defensive pact with the Ottoman Empire.

Tensions

Little. There is a thing with Greece but for now, war looks to not be on the horizon.

Note: The RP post further up takes place in 1865 (far past)

1898
The Eve of War

In 1820 the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland was the biggest, most powerful, most advanced and all round greatest empire on the globe. Their Colonial empire had stretched all across the globe and they had recently been a key element in defeating the greatest strategist to live -Napoleon.
However the war had cost them dearly, as soldiers returned they were shunned from their hometowns where work was already scares and the influx of soldiers did not help in the slightest. Many people wanted jobs, those that had jobs wanted more money, they got fired, others were employed, they wanted more money, they got fired... The vicious cycle continued for 50 years leaving the populace more and more dissatisfied and Britain’s once incontestable production slid into inefficiency.
Then came the risings of 1870...

One of the worst affected areas in the British Isles was Scotland. That area also happened to be the one that most wanted to revolt against their government. A particular faction embraced a particular political philosophy and the revolution spread like wildfire; the Jacobite-Marxist Risings.
During the risings the North of the UK was controlled by the Jacobites from their capital of Lancaster. The peoples of Iceland also took the opportunity to seize territories in the north. The fighting lasted for almost a decade with the eventual victors being the rebels who demanded control over the north of Britain.

The nation was now fractured with the Marxist state in the North and the United Kingdom in the south. Through some miracle the bureaucrats of London managed to keep the nation coherent for some 4 years before it once again fell into civil war. This time it would see the end of the once great nation...

The civil war was fought from 1882-1889 between multiple factions. In the end no settlement was made but from the ashes emerged new nations such as Canada, The Free City of Birmingham and the Northern European Trade Federation. Territorial squabbles between the latter two have erupted across the globe in previous colonies, especially in Egypt where, during the civil war, an Italian Faction of Romans launched an expedition to claim the upper Nile for themselves.

In the east Empires also crumbled – The Ottomans were a picture of stalwart resolution in the face of their collapsing empire. As territories crumbled around them they made their stand against all the world could throw at them as a bastion of Islamic strength that had endured for centuries. These factions that crumbled away found themselves forming new nations – The Greeks, The Bosnians, The Serbs and the Arabians all squeezed the ottoman lemon of all it could give them.

To the north in the wake of falling regimes The Kingdom of Wallachia, led by a mad but shrewd king, began to carve out an empire. As the pillars of civilization toppled around them they still managed to fight on making themselves a major European power.

Another empire that had collapsed had reformed itself into the two entities of Austria and Hungary both of which looked at the other longingly and prepared for all out war.

In the east the Russian bear remained asleep and backward while its neighbours of Georgia, Kiev and Latvia pushed the boundaries of science and their nations.

Meanwhile in western Europe the old and worn superpower of the Anti-papacy languished happily basking in its own radiance with the colonial power of France merely perched on top looking slightly dishevelled.

1894 had also seen the beginning of a brutal civil war in Iberia between the Republicans and Nationalists. Many had taken this as an opportunity for expansion. The Portuguese had claimed lands to their north and the very gates of the Mediterranean. While the power lying in Rome has swiftly taken holdings on the coast for itself.
Also in Italy a new kind of war was beginning to develop in the south as Families rather than nations began all out war; The Sicilian family Corleone in the south, the Giovanni family in the north and the Preffeto family occupying the centre.

The date is now 1898.

Europe is trying to find its identity once again out of the old ways, war spreads across the continent and unnoticed except to a few well to do astronomers a plume of green smoke erupted from our nearest planet...

Music! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqvwxvCOSH4)


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Also you can now see what benefits/penalties your flaws and strengths give:
Shrewd Diplomacy – Bribing NPCs to join a war costs 40% of normal cost
Divided Society – If you don’t have 1 Infrastructure for every 10 Infantry they get -1 Morale
Last Stand – All Units and Ships fight at +2 Morale (Also +3 when fighting rebels such as the Greeks) as long as you hold Istanbul
Crumbling Empire – 10% chance that one territory will revolt each turn
Revolutionary – 1+ Infantry and Cavalry Morale (2+ when fighting the Ottomans
Religious Intolerance – Infrastructure provides ½ of normal CP
Industrial Patriots – Infrastructure provides 3CP rather than 1
Religious discrimination – If you don’t have 1 Infrastructure for every 10 Cavalry they get -1 Morale
Conquest – For every 4 Territories captured you get 1 Infrastructure
Ageing Empire – Can’t Build Infrastructure
Unquestioned History – It costs 50% less to influence and seize control of NPCs
Ageing Empire – Can’t Build Infrastructure
Scientific Genius – 10% chance of gaining a free infrastructure each turn
Quite frankly, their leader is insane... – NPCs can’t be influenced (not including seizing them)
Glorious Kingdom – Infantry and Artillery fight at 2+ Morale and 2+ Leadership
Over Liberal - 10% of total CP is lost due to inefficiency
Fiercely Independent – If a power that is larger than you declares war on you, you gain 15 free Infantry
Held in low regard – Can’t Influence or seize NPCs
Stubborn – Land Units fight at 1+ Morale and Ships at 2+
Isolationist – Can’t Influence NPCs, Require 1 Infrastructure for every 5 overseas territories (not including those you start with) or else all Units and Ships get 3- Morale
Imperialist – Land Units fight at 4+ Leadership and 2+ Morale when invading NPCs
Diverse Minorities – Require 1 Infrastructure for every 10 Infantry built
Colonial Power - 10+ Infrastructure
Colonies gaining Independence – 10% Chance of losing 1 infrastructure each turn
Pride – Infantry and Cavalry gain 1+ Morale for each 5 territories gained
Tribal – All units fight at -2 Leadership
Defensive – Each Infrastructure provides 2 Infantry that will assist your armies while defending. Cavalry fight with 2+ moral when defending.
The old ways – Infrastructure costs 7 rather than 5 CP
Resistors – Land Units get 2+ Morale when defending.
Family Run – Special war rules (In a constant state of war with other Family Run groups but whenever attacked they will put aside their differences)
Merchant Empire – Extra 1 Infrastructure for every 4 territories
Religious – All units get 1+ morale
Patriotic – Can’t be Seized Defenders get 2+ morale.
Grand Army – Units cost 25% less.
Sleeping Bear – 10% of CP lost due to inefficiency.

The Upper Nile is technically the southern part of the Nile :p

But apart from that, great update :goodjob:

Who is the Arabian Faction, and nice update. The strengths and flaws are nice additions.

Austria declares war on Hungary.

Wait, a religiously intolerant country that's (for all intents and purposes) 19 years old can be an aging empire?

Did I miss something here?

Also, it might be a good idea to separate strengths and flaws a bit more. I could put them in Excel and make a nifty chart if you'd like.

Northern European Trade Federation Orders
4 CPs to build four pre-Dreadnought battleships
2 CPs to build two Torpedo Rams
3 CPs to build three Artillery
9 CPs to build nine Infantry
4 CPs to build four Cavalry
20 CPs to build four Infrastructure

Sorry My mistake.

I was taking it as from 1348.

Still, you're stuck with that flaw I'll just have to think of another name for it.

Did you miss the religiously intolerant part? :p

Unless you're just doing it to balance me out. That'd be fine.

Oh, and one more thing: You really might want to consider doing a color key in the stats for convenience's sake.

Who is the Arabian Faction, and nice update. The strengths and flaws are nice additions.

This kinda goes with this, but who are the factions that are considered rebels? Would it be Greece, Arabia, and Egypt?

This kinda goes with this, but who are the factions that are considered rebels? Would it be Greece, Arabia, and Egypt?

Greece, Bosnia, The Arabs and any who rebel against you because of the flaw.

And to Double A: Yes it's balance mainly - you can still gain them from taking over NPC's thanks to your strength just like Rome has their own way of doing it.

And Yes, I'll do a colour code ASAP although it shouldn't be too hard to work out who's who.

The economic adviser handed Otto Von Bismarck the Economic map for Germany, to be edited in the coming years. Bismarck scratched his chin as he took the map, also letting down a glass of imported wine. "This is a little pathetic, don't you think?"
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"We only have two factories?"
"We have just finally finished reorganizing the Germanic states, sir. It will take time to set up proper infrastructure. We also successfully set up two mines in the south west, too."
"I'd hope so, with little to nothing our factories can work on."
"Bear with me sir, it is quite hard to throw this together immediately after we organize the Reich."
"Well, as you have nothing to do now, I say we get to plans for more infrastructure ready. And what is that spec near the ocean?"
"Hamburg, sir. They have exceeded enough population to be considered a city. And I will, Hamburg is the perfect place for a school."
The Economic adviser hurried out of Bismarck's office. As fast as the Economist left, Bismarck's head ambassador approached him.
"Evening, sir. I am here to deliver my report."
"Ahh, very good. What do you have for me?"
"Resounding success, I've secured the maximum trade agreement limit."
As long as you only achieve maximum. What else?"
"See for yourself. I have extended our influence to the Netherlands and Bosnia. We have a political sphere of influence."
Bismarck downed his wine, and studied the map the map the ambassador handed to him.
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"The red sphere is us, the more light orange ones are our light influences in the Netherlands and Bosnia."
"What kind of influence do we have in these places?"
"We have supported a German for governor in one of the provinces. His pro-Reich campaign was a success. It is unknown though if he has enough power to order exactly what we want built."
"A great success in my book. What about Bosnia?"
"Like in the Netherlands, we support a pro-Reich party. Results are still coming in, I know not of their status due o sheer distance away from us. I will get back to you on that."
"Very Well."
"I also have drawn up a culture Sphere of Influence to show you those with nearly the same culture. the dark areas are pure German, that is Austria and us. The lighter ones have a similar culture, like France with their Frankish ancestry."
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"I will study it my self later."
"I have to go back to the Embassy now, sir. If you will excuse me?"
"You are dismissed. Oh, and on your way, give my general this training order. I need these men recruited as soon as possible."
"I will"

TL;DR

46 EP
Build 4(four) Infrastructure.(20)
Influence(14):
Influence the Netherlands(7)
Influence Bosnia(7)
If possible, influence both to make as much infra as possible. Spend rest in naval vessels.
Military(12):
Train Infantry(5)
Train Calvary(3)
Train Artillery(3)
Pre-Dreadnought Battleship(1)
Declare WAR on Nationalist Spain

If someone influences or declares war on those we have ourselves have influenced, consider yourselves our enemies. Meaning: Don't.

The newspapers were in a frenzy, the populace ablaze with pro-war fervor. In Wien, the Emperor's Own Cavalry Regiment paraded through the city, to calls of "Wiedervereinigung unseres Reiches". Recruitment swelled amongst ethnic Germans. In the more vocal minorities, people fled to Hungary and joined their army, hoping that a Hungarian victory could destabilize Austria enough to allow other countries to break away, as the Prussian victory in 1866 let Hungary secede.

AEIOU!

King Gustav climbed out of bed and looked out his window overlooking Stockholm harbor. The Roman, Wallachian, and Icelandic ships sailing in and out of port allowed his country to flourish. Unlike the French, Spanish, Norwegian, and English Empires, Sweden had stood it's ground and even expanded thanks to the amount of civil rights given to his citizens. Truly, thought Gustav, his was a Glorious Kingdom. Gustav was planning on going on a spending spree to build infrastructure throughout his kingdom, hoping to connect Stockholm and Helsinki by rail. He also hoped to build a bridge to Copenhagen. Also, he wanted to increase the size of the military because of the volatile situation in nearby Britain.

Kingdom of Sweden:
41 Provinces, 37 CP:

4 Infrastructure (20 CP)
10 Infantry Units (10 CP)
5 Artillery Units (5 CP)
1 Battleship (HMS Stockholm) (1 CP)
1 Gunboat (HMS Draken) (1 CP)

Deep in Bran Castle, King Victor Vlad Driconia holds a meeting with his most trusted advisors…
King Victor (to Civil Advisor) - I didn’t catch that, what did you say?
Civil Advisor- I didn’t say anything…
King Victor- Nonsense, you clearly said something, now speak up boy!
Civil Advisor- My liege, I swear, I didn’t-
King Victor- HOW DARE YOU LIE TO ME, THE GREAT & GLORIOUS KING VICTOR VLAD DRICONIA! HOW DARE YOU LIE STRAIGHT TO MY FACE!! GET OUT!!!
Civil Advisor- But sir-
King Victor- DARE YOU QUESTION MY AUTHORITY!? YOU’RE LUCKY I DON’T HAVE YOU IMPALED AS MY ANCESTOR WOULD HAVE!! NOW, GET OUT!!!! You, Justinian, you’re the new Civil Advisor.
Justinian the Doberman Pinscher- (Arf!)
King Victor- You see, people, THAT’S how you advise! An excellent suggestion, o great & powerful Justinian. We shall double- no, triple- the scientists funding. May they bring many advances to our empire.
Admiral Ivan- Sir, our navy is great, but unfortunately not great enough. If we are to become the dominant power in the Black Sea, we must double our current number of Ships.
King Victor- Yes I know that, do you think I’m insane? Our navy will be doubled, just as I said.
(Admiral Ivan starts to speak up, but a sharp glare from the King causes him to reconsider his decision)
King Victor- Anything else, hmm? You general, what say you?
General Oentipathir- Your Highness, I recommend that we step up recruitment, as soon as possible. The nations to our southwest look on our lands with greedy eyes. A show of force should convince them to keep their greasy noses out of our affairs.
King Victor- Well then, if all is accounted for, then this meeting is adjourned. Dismissed.

10 CPs on Infrastructure
8 CPs to recruit Infantry
10 CPs to recruit Artillery
8 CPs to recruit Cavalry
2 CPs to construct Pre-dreadnought Battleships
3 CPs to construct Torpedo Rams
Exisiting Navy is to Patrol the Black Sea
8 Infantry Units & 4 Cavalry Units move to the Serbian Border

Something to point out: Isn't it kind of impossible for Hungary and Alsace to have navies?

What, never heard of a lake? :p

Seriously, though. Alasce could probably have a fleet on a river. Hungary... not so much.

The Great King Alexander the First of the Duchy of Courland and Semigallia issues the following orders:
14 CP to Infrastructure
10 CP to Infantry
5 CP to Pre-dreadnought Battleship
5 CP to Gunboats
2 CP to Calvalry

OOC: What is the purplish-pink nation next to me, and the persian-blue one?

Switzerland has a navy.

The Great King Alexander the First of the Duchy of Courland and Semigallia issues the following orders:
14 CP to Infrastructure
10 CP to Infantry
5 CP to Pre-dreadnought Battleship
5 CP to Gunboats
2 CP to Calvalry

OOC: What is the purplish-pink nation next to me, and the persian-blue one?

Purplish Pink is you, and the other is Ukraine I guess.

Iceland 42 CP
10 Pre-Dreadnought Ships
10 Infantry
5 Cavalry
1 Artillery
Seize Denmark

Step, step, halt, step, step.

The military parade in the center of Reykjavik moved as one form, united as one being. The infantry squares and cavalry V formations, artillery on the sidelines, their great and mighty shells flying over the roofs of Reykjavik's building into a safe landing zone. One-hundred Icelandic flags flew in the square, whether they hang from buildings or carried by regimental flagbearers. The Reykjavik Garrison was being mobilized, as Denmark's military surged forward, becoming equal to that of Iceland. Never again would the Icelandics be held under Danish hands again.

The Great King Alexander the First of the Duchy of Courland and Semigallia issues the following orders:
14 CP to Infrastructure
10 CP to Infantry
5 CP to Pre-dreadnought Battleship
5 CP to Gunboats
2 CP to Calvalry

OOC: What is the purplish-pink nation next to me, and the persian-blue one?

You are the purple-pink one, under you is Keiv, to the west of you is Poland. Russia is the OP monster of a country to the east.

Also, Infrastructure costs 5 each. Which means you can either take away from one other project, or take away 4 from the 14 for something else.

Ezio II was sipping a non-alcoholic martini, sitting in a chair on a beach of southern France. Times were good. Few were outright opposing his Papal right, save for Austria. He simply had better concerns than to war with a weaker country, such as the so-called "Family." The Giovannis had taken Venice from his grasp, and this could simply not be abided by...

52CP
2CP - influence Belgium
5CP - influence Alasce
4CP - influence Corleone
4CP - influence Giovanni
8CP - influence France
5CP - artillery
5CP - cavalry
5CP - infantry
6CP - battleships
2CP - gunboats
3CP - torpedo rams

all ships patrol my coasts
If possible - NPCs I influenced are to build infra and stop fighting. Anyone who tries to seize them is both a dick and a target for invasion.

Note: The Antipapacy will pay 6CP for infra starting in a few turns. This is negotiable.

You are the purple-pink one, under you is Keiv, to the west of you is Poland. Russia is the OP monster of a country to the east.

Also, Infrastructure costs 5 each. Which means you can either take away from one other project, or take away 4 from the 14 for something else.
purplish-pink is certainly very different from the color I started out with, but thanks for the help. :D

52CP
36CP - seize Alasce
14CP - seize Belgium
2CP - build 2 pre-battleship dreadnoughts

Note: The Antipapacy will pay 6CP for infra starting next turn (probably). This is negotiable.

I'm rather certain it would cost 72 to seize Alsace, and 28 to seize Belgium. To seize costs 4x(amount of territories).

We would prefer if Belgium remained neutral.

We'll take that to PMs.

I'm rather certain it would cost 72 to seize Alsace, and 28 to seize Belgium. To seize costs 4x(amount of territories).

It would if I didn't have the glorious Unquestioned History trait.

Ohhh

Never-mind me then.

In a groundbreaking event, the Antipapacy reveals the first sphere of influence in IoT history that is actually a sphere of influence and not a map of future claims.

http://i.imgur.com/2UWX3.png

ooc: If you aren't highlighted, I don't give a damn about what happens to you or your area. It's very simple.

Gibraltar was highlighted because it's friggin' Gibraltar.

Question:

Your SoI is basically showing what areas of the map you care about, or does it go deeper than that?

It's an SoI in the real-world sense. If it went deeper, I'd have had more colors.

Iceland hopes that the Anti-Papacy doesn't intervene in any of Iceland's personal business...

Orders edited.

Seize Prefetto
1 of each type of army and navy


Roleplay later

Iceland hopes that the Anti-Papacy doesn't intervene in any of Iceland's personal business...

Orders edited.

Ezio II: We won't, we will only pay more attention to you than Eastern Europe or Africa. I believe we may have mutual interests in the future.

What's the light blue in Egypt? I don't see a corresponding country.

And that's not what SoI means in real life. In terms of IOT, SoI in real life is a region that is under your influence.

WORLD MAP BY NAME
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7163/u1mapnumbered.png
1) Tsardom of Russia
2) Duchy of Courland and Semigallia
3) Republic of Poland
4) Kiev
5) Georgia
6) Arabian Empire
7) Ottoman Empire
8) Afrikaan Purple Diamond Empire
9)
10) Kingdom of Wallachia
11) New Roman Empire
12) Deutsches Reich [German Empire]
13) Kaisertum Österreich [Austrian Empire]
14) Giovanni Family
15) Preffeto Family
16) Corleone Family of Sicily
17)
18)
19) Federal Republic of Greece
20) Antipapal States
21)
22)
23) Portugese Empire
24)
25)
26)
27)
28) Northern European Trade Federation
29)
30)
31) Socialist Republic of Iceland
32) Kingdom of Sweden
*33)

*This number should be in the unmarked state next to Wallachia


I need help filling in the blanks, thanks :D

Ezio II: We won't, we will only pay more attention to you than Eastern Europe or Africa. I believe we may have mutual interests in the future.

Good. Have some Hákarl as a gift.

Fine, sphere of interest. :p

Iceland - Sounds tasty.

My God, is that Birmingham in Egypt?

I say those Egyptian territories get NPC'd into Egypt.

My God, is that Birmingham in Egypt?

Indeed.

Fine, sphere of interest. :p

Iceland - Sounds tasty.

We hope you don't mind ammonia. :p

I believe 18 is Serbia and 17 Bosnia.

33 is Hungary

Alasce didn't get a number, but there isn't much point to one.

We hope you don't mind ammonia. :p

Not really.

Where is Alsace? I don't see it.

30 is Birmingham

-Updated Orders-

Where is Alsace? I don't see it.

Dark green blob between me and Germaney.

[delete]

Double A, you only care about the South-Western corner of Sweden? My feelings are hurt :sad:

Sorry. I'll send you a gay island.

He cares about Iceland. I feel speshul. :p

http://i.imgur.com/2UWX3.png
The "shadows" of SoI on Double A's map look very much like the alien spacecraft that will soon loom over your heads, bringing death and destruction to all. Muahahahahahahaaaaaa!

EDIT: To avoid spamming the thread, I'll put in my response here:
If so, alien spacecraft aren't very symmetrical.
Iceland has two to five circular shapes above it... remember, we're talking about aircraft, so their shadows can overlap due to them being at different altitudes without "crashing into each other mid-air."

Similarly, southern Norway has another circular ship that is either at a higher or lower altitude than the Mother Ship, which is not a perfect circle.

Any other imperfections could be described by other overlapping ships or perhaps missiles on their decent to earth. ^.^

If so, alien spacecraft aren't very symmetrical.

Change of claims- Seize Nationalist Spain instead of Prefetto. Along with my previous army orders, build an additional two cavalry.

You can't seize a Patriotic country, also known as both Spains and Scotland. :(

dafuq?

In that case, can I seize part of an NPC?

In favor of Republican Spain, the Deustch Reich declares war on Nationalist Spain.

Edit: @Linkman: Doubt it, as you get everything the NPC owns once seized.

Fine. Seize that Egyptian country no one knows the name for. Put all left over points towards the most equal possible distribution of armies and navies.

1.) The only two nations in Egypt is me and Birmingham.
2.) Birmingham is in my SoI and attacking it is a declaration of war against the NETF.

Er, never mind. Seize Hungary. Follow previous army orders.

Er, never mind. Seize Hungary. Follow previous army orders.

Someone else is already seizing Hungary if I remember correctly

Fine. Stay with the original orders.

Poor Link, everywhere he steps he can't go! :lol:

While I'm at it, Austria declares war on Bosnia.

Might as well use my power to its fullest potential.

Ottoman Empire:


41
5 More Points: 25
10 new Infantry: 10
3 New Calvary: 3
4 into Influencing Arabia: 3

WORLD MAP BY NAME
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7163/u1mapnumbered.png
1) Tsardom of Russia
2) Duchy of Courland and Semigallia
3) Republic of Poland
4) Kiev
5) Georgia
6) Arabian Empire
7) Ottoman Empire
8) Afrikaan Purple Diamond Empire
9) See 28
10) Kingdom of Wallachia
11) New Roman Empire
12) Deutsches Reich [German Empire]
13) Kaisertum Österreich [Austrian Empire]
14) Giovanni Family
15) Preffeto Family
16) Corleone Family of Sicily
17) Bosnia
18) Serbia
19) Federal Republic of Greece
20) Antipapal States
21) France
22) Republican Spain
23) Portugese Empire
24) Nationalist Spain
25) The Netherlands
26) Denmark
27) Belgium
28) Northern European Trade Federation
29) Northern Marxist League
30) The Free City of Birmingham
31) Socialist Republic of Iceland
32) Kingdom of Sweden
33) Alsace?

*This number should be in the unmarked state next to Wallachia


I need help filling in the blanks, thanks :D

Filed in

1) Why you named my country christos, while my countrys name is greece?

2)Why greece is rebel?


Also i will create:

14 Infantry
10 Artillery
13 Cavalry

Because historically, the Ottomans owned from the Balkans+Greece down to north Africa. As such, they are all rebels to them....cause they rebelled.

And greece owned the same area since 1600 B.C

Uhh...and?

The ottomans should be rebels.

What? That makes no sense. The Ottomans owned Greece under their Empire, and then you rebelled. They Obviously don't recognize you as a separate state. Your modern state has yet to expand far out if Greece alone.

You are rebels because you are the faction that rebelled against the mother state. Not a difficult concept.

:rolleyes: I feel for you christos.

http://i.imgur.com/zupEU.gif

Just an interesting map of the extent of Alexander the Great's empire. :mischief:

( Note that I'm not supporting any side, I'm just doing this as a bit of a joke).

Mother sate? The greeks have their own nationality and the ottomans their own. Rebeling against the mother state means for example communists rebeling in germany and creating their own country

Mother state was a poor choice of words, but it does make sense to be classed as rebels.

Alright...

After some thought I've decided to make 2 rule changes in regards to NPC diplomacy

Some of you will have to change your orders...

Edit: 1st Post edited - You now need a land border to seize an NPC and you only gain infrastructure if you have been influencing them for at least one turn.


Greece counts as rebels. They declared their independence via a revolution from Ottoman rule and so they count as rebels.... End of.

Declare war on Nationalist Spain.

Remember for those of you at war to send a war plan to me via PM.

Alright...

After some thought I've decided to make 2 rule changes in regards to NPC diplomacy

Some of you will have to change your orders...

Edit: 1st Post edited - You now need a land border to seize an NPC and you only gain infrastructure if you have been influencing them for at least one turn.




I now despise my flaw. We still gain their armies and such, though, right?

I now despise my flaw. We still gain their armies and such, though, right?

If you have been influencing an NPC for at least one turn you get half its Units and Infrastructure. - For 2 turns the whole lot.

Can you change my nation name form christos to federal republic of greece?

If you have been influencing an NPC for at least one turn you get half its Units and Infrastructure. - For 2 turns the whole lot.

...Gah. Why did I choose Isolationist...


:p

New orders, since it's no longer worth it to seize Denmark

Iceland 42 CP
15 Pre-Dreadnought Ships
15 Infantry
5 Cavalry
3 Artillery


(Sorry about the doublepost, had a derp moment :p )

I have some editing to do then. :lol:

Hey, what if two countries have more influence than another with an npc, and the lower attempts to seize? I assume you can only seize if you have the most influence?

I have some editing to do then. :lol:

Hey, what if two countries have more influence than another with an npc, and the lower attempts to seize? I assume you can only seize if you have the most influence?

Correct.

Influence Prefetto

Split rest between each type of army and navy as best as possible.

The Rebellion of the Socii
By Titus Flavius Josephus the Younger (son of Titus Flavius Josephus the Elder)

In the year 1896 and 1897, three states rose up against the hegemony of the NRE and Avignon over Italy. They were known by the names of the families that controlled them.

The Giovanni family, in the northwest, was an old and powerful trading family of the Venetian Republic, having existed for centuries. The Avignonese puppet state installed in Venice infuriated them, like it did for so many Venetians. In 1896, Venice rose up under the guidance of the Giovannis. Particularly infuriating for our mighty state, several cities in Northern Italy belonging to Roma seceded as well.

But the worst was yet to come. Taking advantage of the hectic state of affairs that resulted from these rebellions, two socii revolted. Not entirely unexpectedly, the Coreleone family of Sicily used its considerable influence to overthrow the Roma-friendly governors of the Lucanian and Sicilian socii. This region had been the last and hardest to crush during the formation of Roman Italy, both for the Old Roman Empire and the New Roman Empire. But what was not expected was the secession of the Prefetto family, a family that had been installed by the Roman Senate to rule the sociis of Ubrium, Samnium, Picenum, and Apulia. They were generally considered pro-Roman, but now their true colors were revealed. The act of secession sent the Roman Senate reeling.

These new states, weak and fragmented, are expected to be crushed by the power of Roma. However, only time can tell what will happen.

The Roman ambassador would like to apologize to Nationalist Spain for a typographical error in its initial announcement.

We meant to declare war on Republican Spain.

Proxy war on first turn ftw.

Courland has no comments on the recent actions of the powers of the west.
~Duke Alexander I

Updated orders.

Same here.

The Duchy of Courland and Semigallia is glad to announce the start of the Conference of Mitau. The attending nations include the Republic of Poland, the Tsardom of Russia, Kiev, and Georgia. We will be discussing measures to ensure the continuation and security of trade in Eastern Europe, and the possiblity of an Alliance between all the powers in that region.

The nations of Germany, Austria, and Wallachia are eligible to join the Conference if they so desire.

~Duke Alexander I, Duchy of Courland and Semigallia

Would the nations of the Mediterranean be interested in forming the Greater Mediterranean Coprosperity League?

Maybe?

You can have me or Greece, decide.

Why not both? Can't you and Greece figure something out? What is your beef anyways?

They are rebels to the Great Ottoman Empire?

The Federation is allied with the Turks, who the Greeks despise with a burning passion. So in response to the alliance, Greece cut diplomatic relations with the Federation.

The Ottomans are currently attending the Mitau Conference.

Fine. Although we would prefer that the Greeks and Turks solved their differences, we will side with the Turks for now.

*shameless self-promotion*

The critics are raving, "It's the best IOT out there! Marvelous! Fantastic! Absolutely super-duper!"

Get a slot now (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=441330), while it still lasts!

*shameless self promotion*

On a related note, when are you going to do the revision you promised, Robert?

Can I take control of an NPC? The front page didn't specify.

Yes you can.

And I think it does say that....

1) Why the ottomans are in the Mitau Conference and greece isnt?

2) We always thought that because we greeks and romans have a long history, you would be friends of greece. But you sided with the turks insted of the greeks. For more than 400 years the greeks were slaves to those muslim barbs and now that they managed to free themshelfs and create an indepedent greek state everyone hates them. We greeks created western civilization and democracy but now europe is against greece.

Well what do you expect when you call out anyone with any kind of relation with the Ottomans?

I didnt do that. I was just angry with NETF because they were allies with the ottomans. I dont care about who trades with the ottomans but who is allied with them.

Records show that to be false.

1) Why the ottomans are in the Mitau Conference and greece isnt?

2) We always thought that because we greeks and romans have a long history, you would be friends of greece. But you sided with the turks insted of the greeks. For more than 400 years the greeks were slaves to those muslim barbs and now that they managed to free themshelfs and create an indepedent greek state everyone hates them. We greeks created western civilization and democracy but now europe is against greece.

I really wish I didn't have to make decision like this. Don't take it personally, but the Ottomans and their allies are stronger than you. Please try to work something out.

Greece- recognize the Ottomans, reopen diplomacy with them and their allies

Ottomans- Would that be enough?

I tried to make peace with them but they dont listen. Greece tried to make peace but the ottomans want war. thats what i say for so long time. Do you think i am so fool to continue the war with the ottomans?

Well let's wait for an Ottoman response. I'll serve as peacebroker here.

Orders outstanding from Christos and that African nation who's name currently escapes me.

The Ottoman Empire was admitted for the simple reason that they asked, and that they are Eastern enough. However, no new nations will be admitted at this time. Talks are already too far along.
~Courland

Updated orders again.

Also, Robert, what amount of EP spent on influencing influences what the NPC builds? or is it a random type thing?

I didnt do that. I was just angry with NETF because they were allies with the ottomans. I dont care about who trades with the ottomans but who is allied with them.

False. I only had a MDA signed with the Ottomans at the time. This isn't the same as an alliance (I have none),

Updated orders again.

Also, Robert, what amount of EP spent on influencing influences what the NPC builds? or is it a random type thing?

Once you have them under your influence you can then attempt to say what they should build. There will be a certain chance of success based on special secret numbers. If you succeed that is what they will build. If not then they will choose normally.

Orders outstanding from Christos and that African nation who's name currently escapes me.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10919886&postcount=196

Oh, sorry Christos.
I must've missed them.

Also I just want to stress the importance of the leadership trait - It affects combat to a greater extent than any other of the modifiers. So the better the leadership the much better chance of winning.

Also I'm going to introduce the rule that at the conclusion of every war the nations that were fighting in it all gain 1+ leadership.

Okay, final edit on my post. rp added.

Just wanted to announce publicly that Sweden and Courland have traded 11 CP for the pink province touching Finland.

http://i.imgur.com/20rYk.png