With korean pop - a style of music which 8 out of 11 peasants will agree is superior to superior forms of music. As a wise man once put it "you could spend your whole life searching for the perfect korean pop song and it would not be a life wasted. it would only be in your final moments that you at last realize they are all perfect!"

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Thoughts?

I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out if you're serious about everything you post or are being overly sarcastic.

Really.

Korean Pop is okay. Not superior, opinions aren't facts, blah blah blah.

Well if you don't like this thread so much wait until I post my next one.

My sister is actually a serious fan of this stuff.

It's got a lot of seoul but I prefer rok

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Its good to see that the southern korean part has accumulated much wealth to have pretty young girls who are happy. What cannot be said from he northern part
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It's got a lot of seoul but I prefer rok

But English music keeps on busan' around the other genres. It's good that Korean music has a spotlight, even if it's annoyang.

Very well choreographed dance moves, Koreans should be heavily involved in the next star wars movie.

English pop is the best. Period.

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I feel for South-Koreans who have to listen to this Glee-like happy crap.

Jokes apart Korean pop and TV are super popular in all East Asia: everywhere from China and Japan down to Thailand and Philippines everybody is crazy with Korean pop.

I remember in one of my last trips to Asia people became interested as soon as I mentioned I just came from South Korea, and when they notice that I was able to read Korean text (read only, no understanding).

Traditional Korean music anyone?

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I always find it amusing when foreign bands pepper their music with English words. Is that confusing for the native speakers?

I always find it amusing when foreign bands pepper their music with English words. Is that confusing for the native speakers?

No more confusing than all the English people listening to Kpop.

I always find it amusing when foreign bands pepper their music with English words. Is that confusing for the native speakers?

If there are English (or more accurately English-based) words in the lyrics for the most part they're widespread enough that most people know what they mean.

By the way, this is not a new phenomenon. Thailand for instance has been Korea-crazy since at least 2005 (they also have their own brand of pop that's reportedly invading China at the moment). East-west-east cross-cultural fusion FTW.

I always find it amusing when foreign bands pepper their music with English words. Is that confusing for the native speakers?

This happens in Polish music too and probably to most music around the world - it's not really that confusing. Either you understand what they're singing, which makes you cool, or you end up thinking to yourself: "Wicked, English words! This song is cool"

No more confusing than all the English people listening to Kpop.

I would think that it would be a bit different, in that most of the English people who would be listening to it a.) don't know much if anything about Korean, and b.) really have no desire to. So they have no idea what's going on, which is fine... I listen to plenty of foreign stuff that I don't understand a word of as well because I like the different combination of sounds that result from different languages.

On the other hand, if there was a song that I could understand except for a few words, it would drive me nuts. Sometimes it's hard enough to decipher lyrics even when you know the language, never mind throwing in a completely different language altogether.

I think somebody needs to go show the Koreans some Led Zepplin and Eric Clapton.

You like Balkan pop, now Korean, i mean pop sucks period, its about happy songs with catchy melody's telling you lies!

My favorite Asian song. :rolleyes: (it starts at 0:38)
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I think somebody needs to go show the Koreans some Led Zepplin and Eric Clapton.

Agreed, let them just hear one song from Hendrix.

You like Balkan pop, now Korean, i mean pop sucks period, its about happy songs with catchy melody's telling you lies!

My favorite Asian song. :rolleyes: (it starts at 0:38)
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Agreed, let them just hear one song from Hendrix.

okay I will make a thread just for you then

Korean pop actually has its own group of supporters here, mostly a bunch of nerdy girls.

I think somebody needs to go show the Koreans some Led Zepplin and Eric Clapton.

I hate K-pop as much as the next guy who hates K-pop, but this is hardly a good attitude. It seems a bit imperialistic to say we need to teach other culture about "real" music, and that's not even counting the fact that the musicians you're suggesting are white musicians (Led Zeppelin) who notoriously appropriated and in some cases outright stole the music of non-white musicians.

Its good to see that the southern korean part has accumulated much wealth to have pretty young girls who are happy.
It in deed is one of the greatest achievements of the modern age: Pretty young happy girls. How could do they without in the past I am left to wonder.

If there are English (or more accurately English-based) words in the lyrics for the most part they're widespread enough that most people know what they mean.

By the way, this is not a new phenomenon. Thailand for instance has been Korea-crazy since at least 2005 (they also have their own brand of pop that's reportedly invading China at the moment). East-west-east cross-cultural fusion FTW.

Aside from English speaking artists like BoA, most of the English in kpop is not widespread among non English speaking Koreans. It's usually done for style. They do the same thing with jpop, but much more often. A random English sentence will be thrown in that the artist clearly doesn't understand and neither do the fans. My girlfriend's mom doesn't even understand most of the English in Korean songs and she is at conversation level English. I speak the language and have lived with the people, so I know when they are using loan words, etc.

I think somebody needs to go show the Koreans some Led Zepplin and Eric Clapton.

It's already been done. This is just pop music. They do have different genres in Korea.

I hate K-pop as much as the next guy who hates K-pop, but this is hardly a good attitude. It seems a bit imperialistic to say we need to teach other culture about "real" music, and that's not even counting the fact that the musicians you're suggesting are white musicians (Led Zeppelin) who notoriously appropriated and in some cases outright stole the music of non-white musicians.

It looks like civ fanatics' needs to work on their enrichment levels. They have not yet been enriched enough to enjoy other cultures. What a shame...

It looks like civ fanatics' needs to work on their enrichment levels. They have not yet been enriched enough to enjoy other cultures. What a shame...

I'd rather spend a day with enriched uranium than a day being enriched listening to that .

But yeah , I get the joke . Korean pop is awful , post thread humorously suggesting it's not awful , provide links , discuss .

I hate K-pop as much as the next guy who hates K-pop, but this is hardly a good attitude. It seems a bit imperialistic to say we need to teach other culture about "real" music, and that's not even counting the fact that the musicians you're suggesting are white musicians (Led Zeppelin) who notoriously appropriated and in some cases outright stole the music of non-white musicians.

1) I didn't say that other music wasn't "real" music.

2) Who gives a crap if Led Zepplin or Eric Clapton used music of non-whites? They made great music, and I feel everyone should get to hear it.

If race is so important here, then let's look to Jimi Hendrix like Nedim said.

Didn't we already have a "crappy pop" thread a day ago ?

1) I didn't say that other music wasn't "real" music.

2) Who gives a crap if Led Zepplin or Eric Clapton used music of non-whites? They made great music, and I feel everyone should get to hear it.

If race is so important here, then let's look to Jimi Hendrix like Nedim said.

1. That's certainly your implication.

2. That was applying mostly to Led Zeppelin, who I do not like, and who stole much of their music from uncredited black blues musicians. I don't know enough about Clapton to comment on his work. I admit that my comment regarding race was perhaps needlessly incendiary though.

However, South Koreans already "get" to hear Led Zeppelin; no one is forcing them to listen to that to which they listen. Your suggestion that if only some Westerner would introduce these poor backwards Easterners to our great, superior culture sounds a bit familiar.

Korean Culture is the very apex of civilization
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Our Korean exchange student doesn't listen to this crap.

I hate K-pop as much as the next guy who hates K-pop, but this is hardly a good attitude. It seems a bit imperialistic to say we need to teach other culture about "real" music, and that's not even counting the fact that the musicians you're suggesting are white musicians (Led Zeppelin) who notoriously appropriated and in some cases outright stole the music of non-white musicians.

Fair point, but I must admit that I get a chuckle about newfangled foreign trends that we (the US) more or less grew out of years ago.

people know that kpop is just softcore porn.

With korean pop - a style of music which 8 out of 11 peasants will agree is superior to superior forms of music. As a wise man once put it "you could spend your whole life searching for the perfect korean pop song and it would not be a life wasted. it would only be in your final moments that you at last realize they are all perfect!"

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Thoughts?
My thoughts?:)

Well, the first video is not K-pop, but J-pop. Rather a lot of relatively decent English in the lyrics. AND the lyrics are about how some guy might become this (these?) girl(s) First Love, with some hipthusting dance moves thrown in for good measure. Now, THAT is as yet FAR too racy to be allowed in K-pop. (Japanese kids still have more fun. In theory at least...):groucho:

As for the K-pop stuff, as a Swede with a bit of an interest in the nation's music industry, I've taken notice of K-pop. What happens is that the Korean companies, producers, directors, choreoraphers, the whole bally lot, have taken to turning up in Sweden and buying a good measure of the country's most inane pop-music. It is then re-recorded and re-packaged for re-sale as K-pop - apparently raking in the moolah all over Asia. Still, the advent of the Koreans have provided a number of operators in the Swedish music industry additional incomes without any too onerous efforts. (I'm assumig the Koreans are doing the same in other places as well.)

Of course, in order to effectuate this Korean Transmutation, lyrics need not only be translated, but usually rewritten, since even the most inane Swedish pop-song is still FAR TOO RACY to be allowed for Korean consumption. So's a lot of the chorepgraphy. Instead we get girls singing about marshmallows and crap. But give it time, and they will become at least as racy as the Japanese teens.;)

So, what's unique about this other than the language? Sounds like typical pop to me.

Can I call Norwegian country bands N-country?

Very well choreographed dance moves, Koreans should be heavily involved in the next star wars movie.

Yeahh a brand new starwars movie, or also startrekk movie or stargate
wanna have some korean girlz there

Very well choreographed dance moves, Koreans should be heavily involved in the next star wars movie.

Who says there will be another one :p
I don't know how to quantify "culture", but this is an all-time high for...something.
It's all uphill from here (for South Koreans, at least).

Who says there will be another one :p
Lucas can always edit them into one of the existing movies.

So, what's unique about this other than the language? Sounds like typical pop to me.

Can I call Norwegian country bands N-country?

Eww please don't, it's only for pop music

My thoughts?:)

Well, the first video is not K-pop, but J-pop. Rather a lot of relatively decent English in the lyrics. AND the lyrics are about how some guy might become this (these?) girl(s) First Love, with some hipthusting dance moves thrown in for good measure. Now, THAT is as yet FAR too racy to be allowed in K-pop. (Japanese kids still have more fun. In theory at least...):groucho:


Well the girls performing it are Korean. So it's K-Pop made for a Japanese audience.

oh yeah, like every kpop group promotes heavily in japan nowadays (bigger market) so often they try to appeal to jpop. Or more often they just translate the lyrics to japanese, slap a mv together, and promote in japan.

Korean culture reached an all-time high with the formation of KeSPA in 2000.

And then reached an all time low when StarCraft 2 was released. And then reached an all time high again when I posted this thread.

Don't worry, episode 2 of starcraft 2 is coming soon. ;)

*Korean culture plummets*

Let's hope they pop a great artist soon, or Japan might flip some of their cities!

Let's hope they pop a great artist soon, or Japan might flip some of their cities!
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So I hear this is from a Korean boy band. Can you confirm?

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Also, is it/the band popular and what do you personally think of this music?

So I hear this is from a Korean boy band. Can you confirm?

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Also, is it/the band popular and what do you personally think of this music?

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probably this, didn't listen enough to compare (just the lucifer line). Super junior is one of the most popular boy bands (they are all the same, just as all girl groups are really the same).

anyways, super junior is cool only because one of their guys is actually really good friends with a starcraft brood war progamer/commentator.

i was in Iran about 5-6 years ago and when i asked my Iranian friend, what do they watch at home.

they told me Korea Drama...

man, i was impressed...

What is Korean Pop, but rehashed formulas of pop boy/girl bands of the 80s and 90s and never ending singing of partying/love/heartbreak?

They sound like crappy pop music, but in Korean.

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This isn't about personal taste, its awesome, period.
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Don't they use Korean Pop music as "torture" for north Koreans? I heard they blasted it over the border.

My sister loves KPop.

Don't they use Korean Pop music as "torture" for north Koreans? I heard they blasted it over the border.
I thought that was against the Geneva conventions.

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Mother of God, it's all toilet sounds!