Long time Lurker, Long time away from game, anyhow....I've looked around on these forums and haven't been able to find this sort of thread, not sure if there would be support for one, or if there is one and I have just missed it. Either way Ill give it a shot.

Quick Question: Does the Temple of Artemis +15% production towards ranged units include the Mongol Keshik? and if so, does the effect stack with a stable?

Just a little background, I have become bored with Prince difficulty, moved up to King and now I am getting thrashed, I won on King with Korea but I cheesed it with a science victory on a Archipelago map (in my defense it was a random map), but it felt cheesy none the less. Now I am giving the Mongols a shot (I have won with all Civs with the Exceptions of Mongols, Spain, Inca, and Polynesia). Long term on my map I would like to trample all over my continent (Continents Plus is my map) with the Keshik, obviously if the Temple works I will consider building it.

Edit: Holy crap I've been around on these forums for 10 years, maybe I have been playing Civ for longer than I thought o.O

disclaimer: I do not own the wonder dlc pack

ok, I actually would probably not build the temple of artemis.
why?
Because the temple of artemis = less keshiks = less awesomeness = less power when fighting
(since keshik is the best unit imo, and many ppl would agree)

I'm not entirely certain but I think the Temple of Artemis is based on the <CombatClass> of the unit. The .xml for Keshik reads: <CombatClass>UNITCOMBAT_ARCHER</CombatClass> (as opposed to UNITCOMBAT_MOUNTED) which I would take to mean that the bonus for Temple of Artemis applies but the one for stable does not.

agree with notadummy. you only need a few keshiks to get started, and building ToA is more likely to slow that down than speed it up.

you can build chariot archers early in the game and upgrade once you hit chivalry. Their promotions even carry over since they're ranged, so go kill some barbs.

Iirc Pikemen do not gain a bonus against Keshiks; so that would support callans statement. However I also believe Keshiks do build faster with a stable.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Luckily both things are rather easy to test and building either of them even without their bonus in question applying won't cost you a game... so you might just test it for yourself :D

BTW, in the General Discussions subforum there is a stickied thread called "Quick Questions and Answers" with nearly 2000 replies; hard to miss ;)

As FeiLing mentions, in future for quick questions, you're welcome to use this (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=383126) thread. This can stay open for now. :yup: