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aaglo
Mar 05, 2003, 12:25 AM
Well, it all started from the looks of the modern fort. I don't like it. So I decided to try to make something else, not necessarily better. So here it is, the new looks for the modern fort. How do you like it?

EDIT:
The new conquests-version of this file is here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1566160#post1566160

aaglo
Mar 05, 2003, 12:27 AM
And while I was at it, I also made this: a medieval fortress:

aaglo
Mar 05, 2003, 12:28 AM
In the end, came out this, the industrial fortress. I actually liked the original very much, but this is only an alternative. :D

aaglo
Mar 05, 2003, 12:31 AM
Here is the file terrainbuildings.pcx. It also has the new version of the barbarian camp by Thunderfall ;)

Balrog
Mar 05, 2003, 02:49 AM
Good job! :)

zulu9812
Mar 05, 2003, 03:32 AM
Very nice - thanks!

aaglo
Mar 05, 2003, 03:49 AM
I also tried to make a fort that would graphically show the effects it has.

Now everybody knows, if you build forts side-by-side (diagonally), the enemy can't pass through. If you build forts 'corner-by-corner' (vertically or horizontally), the enemy can pass through the gaps between the individual forts.

Now this was the first design. It looks quite good, but there's an ingame flaw (a graphical one), that makes these kind of forts look bad. The pic in the next post will show you why.

aaglo
Mar 05, 2003, 03:53 AM
In this pic you can see why these types of forts don't look so good. When placed next to a river, the river is always drawn on top of it.

So, to my loss, the forts shouldn't fill the whole tile :(

This pic shows, how the rivers flow on top of the fort - and it doesn't look very good in these larger forts... :cry:

haegint
Mar 05, 2003, 05:23 AM
aaglo, I think it's looking very nice! I downloaded it and will give it a tryout. I agree with you: The original modern times fort is just so ugly. The other original forts I think are at quite acceptable IMHO.

I wonder whether your industrial fort would look even better without the tower in the middle. Resources would be more visible.... just an idea.

Thank you for your efforts! :goodjob:

aaglo
Mar 05, 2003, 05:53 AM
Yep, I thought of the same idea about the industrial era fort (about taking the ugly tower away). But it wouldn't make the resources more visible. The resources are allways on top of the fortresses... ;) But still it would propably look better.

Yoda Power
Mar 05, 2003, 06:18 AM
wow these forts looks great

haegint
Mar 05, 2003, 07:21 AM
<< Yep, I thought of the same idea about the industrial era fort (about taking the ugly tower away). >>

Do you think you will find some time to try and do it? Really just asking, do not take offence :) It's just that I am not computer/software/Photoshop whizz enough to do it myself. If you will not further work on your file, that's ok, too. It's already much nicer than the original. Cheers!

Ed O'War
Mar 05, 2003, 09:12 AM
These forts look great, much better than the originals. As for the tower in the Industrial era fort, you should probably remove it just for historical reasons. Those types of forts were designed to minimize the effect of cannons--having a big tower in the middle of your fort wouldn't help in that regard. Hence, towers were rarely, if ever, built into these types of forts. Just my 2 cents though. I think the forts look great.

Balrog
Mar 05, 2003, 10:37 AM
Aaglo, you will see the medieval fort in Fantasy Empires 2.0. :)

aaglo
Mar 06, 2003, 12:25 AM
OK, I did remove the tower from the industrial fort, but I didn't bring the file here (I'm at work ;) ), so I'll bring it tomorrow. And I also changed the medieval fort back to the original (because it was better than my new version).

aaglo
Mar 06, 2003, 12:35 AM
Balrog, unfortunately I cannot see it, because I cannot download it ;)

But go right ahead, if you choose to use it :goodjob:


...I'll send the bill later :lol:

haegint
Mar 06, 2003, 01:18 AM
I'm curious to see the new file then, aaglo. And I'm not convinced that the original medieval fort looks really better than your version of it :) Again, thanks for doing all this. I think it's great that there are generous people like you here. :)

Balrog
Mar 06, 2003, 02:13 AM
I think, that your medieval fort is better than the original. :)

aaglo
Mar 06, 2003, 02:17 AM
My generousity is just an illusion :satan: ;)

Naah, it's nothing more than a hobby ;)

haegint
Mar 06, 2003, 05:45 AM
Moderator, you may delete this post. It has been taken care of :) Thanks!

aaglo
Mar 06, 2003, 11:43 PM
Here's the new version of the industrial era fortress - due to the requests of posters ;)

aaglo
Mar 06, 2003, 11:43 PM
And here is the pcx-file for it.

haegint
Mar 11, 2003, 06:17 AM
Thanks aaglo. This I am using already. I like your fortresses a lot!

sealman
Mar 11, 2003, 11:10 AM
look good and I will use it when my sabatical is up.

Ukas
Mar 13, 2003, 02:51 AM
It is stuff like this I've been downloading made me wanna contribute in the 1st place.

TETurkhan
Jul 03, 2003, 11:21 PM
I really like your work aaglo - keep it up! :goodjob:

aaglo
Aug 29, 2003, 10:43 AM
Here is a terrainbuildings.pcx file with one of the test fortresses I've showed (the one in the post #7 in this thread). I was asked to post that here too. But unfortunately I could not find that exact one, so I hope this will do. I think this is a bit smaller (but the same fortress anyway).

Mr. Dictator
Aug 29, 2003, 03:30 PM
not to be a thorn, but how about a castle for the medievil fort, if that isnt what it is.

aaglo
Aug 29, 2003, 04:14 PM
Hmmm... Is that a request, a question or a comment? :)

Mr. Dictator
Aug 29, 2003, 04:44 PM
sort of both, would it be a good idea?

Yoda Power
Nov 14, 2003, 07:07 AM
aaglo is there a chance you will make Barricade versions of these?

aaglo
Feb 02, 2004, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Yoda Power
aaglo is there a chance you will make Barricade versions of these?

Well... why not :)
I'll make up something tonight.

Yoda Power
Feb 02, 2004, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by aaglo


Well... why not :)
I'll make up something tonight. Cool, and thanks for the "quick" reply;):p

aaglo
Feb 02, 2004, 10:00 AM
"Quick" is my middle name :p

So, here are the updated fortresses for C3C

aaglo
Feb 02, 2004, 10:02 AM
Here is a preview (gif) of the pcx-file for those, who don't have programs to view the game file.

aaglo
Feb 02, 2004, 10:19 AM
here is a preview of those barricades in use.

Yoda Power
Feb 02, 2004, 11:05 AM
Great, thanks:goodjob:

tjedge1
Feb 02, 2004, 03:52 PM
Very nice. I will have to use some of those for my mod.

Corey
Feb 03, 2004, 02:03 PM
Very very nice.

Ankka
Feb 04, 2004, 12:16 PM
Very very very nice. :thumbsup:

Corn Shucker
Feb 14, 2004, 10:19 PM
Outstanding

Comments: Very good. I will add these right away! Why didn't they put stuff like this in the game in the first place! lol ;D

Rob (R8XFT)
Feb 22, 2004, 08:53 AM
Cheers, I particularly like the water wheel. :goodjob:

Kyriakos
Oct 12, 2004, 12:57 PM
Hi aaglo, could you make a terrainbuildings file with all the fortresses being the pentagon one, possibly with some more ancient looking-coloured walls?

Also if you could make a more ancient style mine i would be gratefull :)