Yes, I am making a mod where I throw in all those crazy South Pacific islands like Fiji and Kiribati as the civs. Basically the focus is on naval warfare and dominating all the islands. I was just wondering if anyone is interested in such a mod, and also if anyone has any ideas of UUs for the civs (because these countries have obscure militaries). Any help in that last one would be appreciated, and I'll be glad to answer any questions.

One suggestion: When you actually come around to naming cities & the like..please do your research properly and get it right..
Being a cook islander myself I would hate to see Rarotonga as part of the samoan Civ etc.

No offence ment ..it's just that some people don't bother
example.. in Teturkhan's mod as part of his Hungarian Civ he's added Transylvania and Bucharest as hungarian cities ..(transylvania being a ROMANIAN region and Bucharesti being the capital of ROMANIA (my wife is Romanian and was so offended that I had to destroy the hungarians completely so as to be allowed to play civ all weekend.
And heaps of other s$^T like Vienna and Amsterdam being part of the German Civ.

Just be accurate when dealing with that stuff and posting it

Especially if you are putting New Zealand and Australia in your Mod:)

I have been using 3 or 4 maps per country to determine the placement of islands and which islands go to which country, so you shouldn't have to worry about that. I may include New Zealand, but not Australia as the focus is the smaller island countries.

Originally posted by Architekt
One suggestion: When you actually come around to naming cities & the like..please do your research properly and get it right..
Being a cook islander myself I would hate to see Rarotonga as part of the samoan Civ etc.

No offence ment ..it's just that some people don't bother
example.. in Teturkhan's mod as part of his Hungarian Civ he's added Transylvania and Bucharest as hungarian cities ..(transylvania being a ROMANIAN region and Bucharesti being the capital of ROMANIA (my wife is Romanian and was so offended that I had to destroy the hungarians completely so as to be allowed to play civ all weekend.
And heaps of other s$^T like Vienna and Amsterdam being part of the German Civ.

Just be accurate when dealing with that stuff and posting it

Especially if you are putting New Zealand and Australia in your Mod:)

This is fairly amusing. If he's going to go through the trouble of making a Pacific Islands mod or scenario, I would assume he'll make it fairly accurate. How many people even know that Kiribati is a COUNTRY, let alone know where it is?

Transylvania is now currently a part of Romania, but earlier in history it was mainly populated by Hungarians. It was a region fought over by both nations after WWII, with the Romanians having to capture Budapest in order to claim control over Transylvania. There still lived there a substantial Hungarian minority in 1919. In 1940, Transylvania was split, half of it given to Hungary. Saying it is a completely Romanian region is not technically correct. There still lives there today a good sized Hungarian minority.

Bucharest though as Hungarian, is silly.

If Teturkhan doesn't have an Austrian Civ, then Vienna as a part of it makes sense, as Austrians are essentially a branch of the Germans. The Dutch, as well, are sort of a branch of the Germans, though the link is much less direct. Again though, I'd see no problems if there wasn't a dutch civ.

Clam I Am, if you want a really good map to use when plotting out those islands and stuff, I suggest going to www.msn.com and typing in "world map" on the search engine. First link that pops up is an EXCELLENT world map which you can zoom in and out of, and has latitude/longitude lines as well. I highly recommend this.

Transylvania is now currently a part of Romania, but earlier in history it was mainly populated by Hungarians.

The point is that it is a region not a C I T Y

Bucharest though as Hungarian, is silly.

A few other Romanian Cities were aso included

Austrians are essentially a branch of the Germans. The Dutch, as well, are sort of a branch of the Germans

I know my dutch friends would certainly disagree:rolleyes:

Ok, agreed, Transylvania is not a city, I didn't realize that is what you were implying.

And I did agree with you about Bucharest.

Your dutch friends might disagree but its more or less a fact. Just like the English are distantly related to the Germans. The French, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, and Romanians also are distantly related to each other.

thanks for the link procifica. i've pretty much been looking for different maps for each country in order to get the details as close as possible, so this can save time

Just like the English are distantly related to the Germans. The French, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, and Romanians also are distantly related to each other.

It's where you draw the line..

Otherwise you could argue that all civs with their respective city names should be almalgamated into the Ancient Summerian or Hebrew civs or whatever

Personally, It's in my line of work to be specific
and to draw the line as accurately as possible.

Yes, it is open to interpretation, but I was just pointing out that it wouldn't necessarily be wholly inaccurate to label Vienna and Amsterdam as German, IF Dutch and Austrian civs aren't in the mod or scenario.

How does arguing about Amsterdam being German have anything to do with the South Pacific?

Clam I Am, great idea. It would be good if a mod like this was created :)

It doesn't have anything to do with it, but it was brought up in the spirit of accuracy. Though again, I think Clam I Am shouldn't be judged in this regard till we see the finished product. I think this will be a very interesting mod.

hmmm good to see the...enthusiasm. hopefully we can get back on topic a little bit here.

Sorry man that was my fault:wallbash:
Just had a really s*&^tty day a work and should not have taken it out on your thread.:spank:
What was the topic again?:lol:

Well, very cool idea and you have my support (moral I mean :rolleyes: cause I don't see how I could help u with that.

I guess you already took a look at the two maps (El Mencey / Drewcifer) of Australasia but since you don't seem interested in Australia, you might do your own map.

Are you going to include Sandwich (sorry but that name is so funny) / Hawaii islands ?

There is nice boat for these civs too in the unit library as well as leaderheads. You probably know of these but in case you don't I will give you the links...

yes my map basically goes from eastern Indonesia over to Hawaii and Pitcairn. Where could I find this unit for Hawaii/Sandwich islands?

Originally posted by Clam I Am
yes my map basically goes from eastern Indonesia over to Hawaii and Pitcairn. Where could I find this unit for Hawaii/Sandwich islands?

Polynesian voyaging canoe. p28
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22289&perpage=20&display=&pagenumber=28

yah, i already have that one. Have you seen any others?

I also realized that I am going to need civilopedia entries, so I was wondering if anyone would help with that. If I can get that done, I should be able to do everything else myself.

i am indeed forgetful. I also need leaderheads for these civs. If anyone is interested in helping with this, that would be great. I also am still looking for possible UUs if anyone knows that. I think the civilopedia text i can figure out how to do though. if anyone has any other questions, just ask and i'll hopefully have a map preview or something to show everyone soon.

How many Civs are you intending to put in?

I haven't exactly counted;) However, I can list all the civs I have added so far:
Northern Mariana Islands
Marshall Islands
Palau
Micronesia
Solomon Islands
Nauru
Tuvalu
Guam
Wallis and Futuna
Tokelau

Of those, only 2 (Solomon Islands and Nauru) have UUs.

if you're having trouble you don't have to have UUs by the way i would love to see a game with naval power made usefull

Originally posted by Clam I Am
yah, i already have that one. Have you seen any others?

Nope, sorry.

That one such unit was made is already great. I would not have dared to ask for more :D

well I guess the problem is more in what to make the UU, i can always find something to use as the graphic, but I'm having trouble with the actual unit. Many islands' defense is a responsiblility of countries like the US and Australia.

BUMP !

Anything new ?

Naval warfare ahhhhh I'll tell my men to row harder or get :whipped:. Noone will stop me hahaha. As for the mod it sounds very good I like island hopping because it present a logistics problem.

whoa. I haven't seen this in a while. Here's an update though:
Finished map
All civs are created
about 1/4 of UUs are created
most civilopedia entries are done.

Basically the delay is in finding UUs for many civs. If anyone has any ideas, they would be appreciated.

If anyone thought this was lost forever, it is still in existence, just taking a while. Right now I'm probably 3/4 done with the civilopedia entries for the civs, and working on unique units. I plan to finish it sometime before the expansion is released, if that helps. Just keep waiting.

Does that mean you are doing the units yourself ?

BTW you have probably thought of it already but some Aztec units might be used for your mod. I mean they are the closest existing units to what you would like I think.

Good luck

I'm from New Zealand, so let me help right now if you want to add NZ :)


First off, Wellington is the capital, so that should be the cap.

I would suggest using Christchurch as the second city, as it is where the English decided to settle on NZ first.

Next would be Auckland as it is the biggest city.

Then:

Dunedin
Hamilton
Napier
Tauranga
Rotorua
Palmerston North
Invercargill
Nelson
New Plymouth
Gisborne
Whangarei
Whakatane
Taupo
Wanganui
Blenheim
Greymouth
Picton
Waiouru
Masterton
Akaroa
Westport
Queenstown
Timaru
Kiakoura
Coromandel


after that, it don't really matter what else you put in :)


As for the leader, i'm not sure who would be best... Helen Clark is actually a very good prime minister - and many are saying that she has risen to be the greatest one of NZ.

Oh if you don't do Helen Clark, do a Maori leader, that would be more fun :)

I'm not making units myself, and I'm already on top of using Aztec units. The hard part is actually determining what the unique units should be. Also, New Zealand is not being included, and it's not even in the area being covered by my map. It's about the smaller nations so New Zealand, Australia, and Papua New Guinea are not in as civs, but the Phillipines are.

yeah I realised that when I saw the map!

B U G G E R

Sorry if that dissappoints you. I wanted all the smaller nations which did not leave room for New Zealand on the size of the map.

If anyone's been wondering what happened to me and my work, I have not really been playing much of this game lately. I just remembered about this when I was looking at the stuff on my webpage and saw the Pacific Islands page. I do still have the mod saved on my computer however, so perhaps in time I may work on it again, although as I recall when I tried playing it the game crashed when I tried building one of the units I added. Just letting everyone know what's happened to this mod.

What is the time period of the scenario, modern or ancient polynesian migrations? It would be cool to make a lot of buildings tourist since polynesia has alot of tourism in its economy.

So if you've been wondering about me, I'll tell you. I had been playing Neverwinter Nights latetly and making mods for that, but I wasn't all that good at it and got bored. So I've started playing this game again. Will this mean the continuation of this mod? I dunno. But right now I'll tell you that I can post what I've done with the thing so far (likely to be problems left in it that I haven't found) and/or just the map. If anyone's interested, let me know and I can do that. Otherwise, you'll see me stopping by the forums semi-frequently and contributing various things.