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CivGeneral
Mar 12, 2003, 11:38 PM
After moving the two warriors, I have observed that we may be an island. My Predictions would be that we may be on an Island or a peace of land that only has 3 sides touching water (Think Florada).

I have uploaded the map and I have sent the save on its way.

croxis
Mar 12, 2003, 11:59 PM
ok, this will need a change in stratagy. We need to see if we are on an island, and if those other landmasses are 1-5 tile islands or part of a larger landmass. I REALLY recomend reseaching one more tech while we finish scouting out area, then we go to mapmaking. Or go to mapmaking right away.

FortyJ
Mar 13, 2003, 12:36 AM
If we are indeed on an island, then we must get to Mapmaking and/or Literature ASAP. I would say that these techs become far more important than even the coveted Iron Working.

If we delay in acquiring those technologies, then our rivals will be trading themselves into the Middle Ages while we are still trying to get off the island.

croxis
Mar 13, 2003, 02:10 AM
1st, where can I downlaod the save?

2, the GL will only work if we FIND people, so I think map making should come first.

I say we start mapmaking next turn, and finish exploring the island. We MAY be connected by very small isthmus(sp?) to the noth or to a mainland to the southeast or direct east.

Noldodan
Mar 13, 2003, 04:55 AM
In my experiences in CIv3, whenever it LOOKS like you are going to be on an island, you are. Its not like Civ2 with all those curvy continents.

Plux
Mar 13, 2003, 05:54 AM
Seeing this map I too recommend beelining for mapmaking. Did everybody also see the piece of land in the east? Moreover I would strongly urge everybody to rethink the plans for the next city. The run-off poll came with spot D (blue spot), but seeing the explorations of our warriors, I would definitely like to move that spot one tile north-east (yellow spot). Then, a fish comes within reach, the already mined grassland can be shared with SF, both furs and the coast stay in reach, and an extra grassland tile can be used. Also the fertile eastern lands come a wee bit closer :) What about it? Anybody agree to reconsider? Or why not?

http://www.tweakers.net/ext/f/2962/full.jpg

WildFire
Mar 13, 2003, 06:36 AM
Since bronze working was at 1 turn, did you turn it back to try and get the most gpt possible while keeping it at 1 turn?

TheDuckOfFlanders
Mar 13, 2003, 07:04 AM
If we are on an island ,and only if we are oon a island i do agree that we should go for mapmaking then ASAP.I'm still not very much in favor of the GL though.

Being on a island has it's advantage's ,if you can build up a good navy you can land invasion force's very surprinsingly about everywhere ,and defending an island with a adequate navy is quite easy ,more easy than defending a nation with land force's.

but i think there is quite some more land to the north ,i only hope there is no civ there that is sending it's troops south as we speak.our capital still lays undefended ,a very dangerous situation.

CivGeneral
Mar 13, 2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by WildFire444
Since bronze working was at 1 turn, did you turn it back to try and get the most gpt possible while keeping it at 1 turn?

Ive tried lowering the science rate while maintaining the 1 turn compleation. In all there is no way to do that without having it research for 2 turns while Breaking even. I decided to leave it at 100%

(At least I did not get a smokey Smilie in this save :) )

croxis
Mar 13, 2003, 11:29 AM
I'm all for the yellow dot. So Map Making is next for sure? (Does it need a vote?) Duck is right, we are still undefended and we MIGHT be connected to the north, but I doubt it.

Plux
Mar 13, 2003, 12:49 PM
Anymore opinions on switching the city site to the yellow dot? Should I make poll for it?

CivGeneral
Mar 13, 2003, 01:03 PM
Plux - Yes, feel free to :).

FortyJ
Mar 13, 2003, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by croxis
1st, where can I downlaod the save?

2, the GL will only work if we FIND people, so I think map making should come first.1st - Good question.

2nd - I'm not sure what you mean by this. From my understanding of the Great Library, you receive the techs as soon as any other two civs have them.

Either way, if we are on an island, then I'm all in favor of getting to Mapmaking first and prebuilding for Great Lighthouse. Especially considering that we may not be the only nation on an island who is looking to do the exact same thing.

croxis
Mar 13, 2003, 07:39 PM
I thought it was you receave techs when two civs you had contact with get them.

Octavian X
Mar 13, 2003, 09:29 PM
croxis has a point. In order for you to actually recieve techs from the Library, you must have contact with the civs that have the tech already, or else it's no good.

croxis
Mar 13, 2003, 09:41 PM
but then again it also keeps others from getting the library too