1575AD

Right under the Tiburòn Sea lies an underwater volcano. Now it has errupted and is shooting lava out and the lava is beeing cooled by the water and its building up. Its soon rising to becom a new Island!

The people of The China shore, England and Penguin Wald can see the massive rock thats growing out there in the sea. When the erruption stops, there has become a massive Island in the Tiburòn Sea. The Island Is called Tiburòn Island. Just after the erruption, a English Fisherman goes to the island. When he comes home, he brings a vag full of gems with him. The Erruption has sent out a lots of gems, the Island is filled with valuable gems...

Thre Countrys are claiming the Island beacause of it svaluable resources.. China, Fanatika and England wants controll over the Island.. Who will get the Island? Will there be war? Who will get the gems??


(This storyline is approved by the game master...)
(note to the chartographic office: Put the Island on the map and dont forget the gems...)

1575 AD

geologists has recently visited the island and it has been measured up. The size is 36 tiles... Its way larger then they had tought... There will have to be a huge debate on wich country are going to cet their hands on all of theese gems...

1576

the gems are wanted extremely bad in fanatikain markets, they are said to glow like fire and heat up sometimes. they are heavy, ball shaped, and about 3 inches in diameter.

the gems are found in grassland where the endless expanse allows the gems to grow to there gaint size and cover many miles of land. some depostits are over 3x7 tiles! the gems go for about 50,000 gold on the market. some autions have them for about 110,000 gold-200,000 gold price range. the three countrys have funded a international exploration of the island and have found that the gems are made of a heavy, shiny stone often found in fanatika. but also have limestone in them. the debate what these gems realy are goes on.

* Shaitan Snow, the Baron of Süd-Besitz, read the report in front of him for the third time. Incredibly, the 3 powers were paralyzed in negotiation and official argument and the great prize of Tiburòn Isle sat neglected; prey to pirates and treasure seekers without any official governing presence.

The Confederacy must control this resource but he an his neighbor gunning1, Count of Eis Mauer, measured the farthest reach of House Vanir's power. And admittedly their power on the sea was not formidable. Still, if they could move decisively now the rewards could be great.

He immediately composed a lengthy letter to his brother Grandmaster requesting aid for the purchase of ships of war with a detailed explanation of the benefits of fast action. He then wrote to gunning1. There were two English frigates docked in Huntington. They must be taken or at a minimum held from service. Though they were ships of a time past they represented a great amount of the sea force in the area. He further wrote that he would himself travel to Eklektotchtitlan immediately and procure what ships he could and would then join up with Count gunning1 in Huntington.

After he had sent the missives off he summoned his clerk, servant, valet and military commander. As the servant and valet packed for his trip, he issued orders to his clerk and commander. *

Snow: (to his clerk) Send an envoy to his honor the Governor of Rhineland. Inform him I will be unavailable for some time as I pursue a private interest. He'll know something is up when a fleet assembles at Huntington but between the Count and myself we have enough oblige noblesse to stymie him.

(to his Commander) Mobilize the Süd-Besitz guard. Have the new artillery pieces been procured yet? Good. I was afraid they would be unavailable with all of the hardware being sent to Gaul. We'll need those artillery companies and a minimum of 3 brigades of the Guard. Fill their positions with reserves if you must. Rhineland is in little danger with the theater being so far east. Raise supplies for all units for a minimum of 6 months. There will be little enough to eat where we are going. You will have them all at a muster 20 miles northwest of Huntington in 14 days.

Valet: (interrupting) A thousand pardons, my liege. There is the matter of your mantle. Which will you choose?

* The valet holds up two mantles. One is features the crest of Süd-Besitz, his Barony. The other has an older and much simpler design and carries the blue and green of House Vanir. He points to the latter and smiles. *

Snow: For this excursion I will represent as the Count of Schlachtfeld. I am of a mind that the "Count of the Battlefield" will be more appropriate than the "Baron of the South Holdings."

Scouts to the area have reported the borders of this new island. Due to the still massive lava flows, it's too dangerous to explore.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Fanatika_NewIsland.jpg

...but, from the looks of it, this is the basic land features.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/fanatika_new_map.jpg

A few months after the island has cooled off (but, still inhospitable) - hey, time travels fast when ever turn is 5 years - maps have been drawn up, along with the borders that each nation claims.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/New_Gem_Island.jpg


http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Gem_Island_Claimed.jpg

Good map, but there should be more gems (fanatika has only 1)....

That just gives us incentive to get more of them. :evil:

Which is EXACTLY why we want the island. :mwaha:

*Strider read the report in front of him. He once again looked up through the window. From his Palace near New PDX he could see the island faraway. He knew that he could get to the island first.... and claim it in the glory of Utopia... and Fanatika.

Less than two hours later 2 boats can be seen leaving the Utopian harbor. It's clear desination being the island

Mellow: Wow! A new island! And we are the closest Fanatikan city to it! Dad! Get out Das Dada Boot. We've got an island to sieze.
So it looks like the Dadaists want this island too. Prehaps as an artistic retreat? Or mabey something capitalistic? Who knows? With Das Dada Boot moving at 11,000 knots a day (11 squares), it should reach the island in a day. On it is a group of Dada colonists, led by Sir SaaM the Reedy (who do you think would lead dada colonists?) Will they get there first? Stay tuned for the next episode of
DADA IMPERIALISTS

Oh no you don't, SaaM. No Dadaists are gonna ruin THIS island.

Returning from the Tiburón Sea boat race, the Elves and Men on the Montpelier, a light cruiser, spot the eruption. The ship is severely damaged by the resulting tsunamis, and goes to Huntignton for repairs, which are now completed. However, the Montpelier was far out to sea before heading in for Huntington, so the Elves and Noldodan mount their Eagles once again and head for the island. They only have to travel 2,000 knots, and reach the island and set up shop ahead of all other takers. Other Elves from the Chinese mainland join them.

Noldodan: MWAHAHAHAHA!!! :mwaha::mwaha::mwaha: I'd like to see anybody take THIS island!

(FYI) There are now 1000+ Elves on the island, with Eagle mounts, infantry rifles, extensive camoflagued defensive positions and artillery batteries are currently being transported by the Montpelier, which is due in to the island in another 3 days. Good luck trying to take the island!

Oh, come on... You cant just paratroop to the island... Thats against the tech rules. And besides, you need to leave from mainland Fanatika, not somewhere in China. Grr... Should have grabbed the island when I had the chance. Wait! I still do!
Reedy: Noldodan may have taken the Chinese part, but I've got the Fanatikan Part!
And with this, Sir SaaM the Reedy landed on the zoned Fanatikan part of New Island. Planting the Cupertainan flag on the shore, he begins setting up a Dadaist community. Ignoring his pushy, overbearing father and tightwad, buearocratic brother, He calls in the Cupertanian Guard. They are now partoling the Fanatikan part of the island, keeping it safe from Chinese Elves. This moutainous region is now swarming with Cupertanian Troops. When the other factions arrive, they WILL be welcomed. They must, however, supply troops to safeguard the island from the elves and agree to live with the Dadaists.
I hereby declare the New Isle of Fanatika open to Fanatikan business. (BTW- We settled on the Gems)

What do you mean I paratrooped in? I used Eagles! And besides, I settled on the WHOLE ISLAND. It's MINE!!! :mwaha: But I GUESS we can share. 50:50?

Nold: It was dividied into country teritories. You launched your invasion off of china, thus entitling you to the Chinese part. Mine was off of Fanatika. So, I get the Fanatikan Part. Its in the boundries. Ill share if nesscisarry.

However, the Montpelier was far out to sea before heading in for Huntington, so the Elves and Noldodan mount their Eagles once again and head for the island. They only have to travel 2,000 knots, and reach the island and set up shop ahead of all other takers. Other Elves from the Chinese mainland join them.

Clearly, the Fanatikan Elves landed first, and the Chinese landed later. But I'll concede the point and take the Chinese area. Now who gets the English area? Shaitan?

*Strider looked at the magnifcent island from less than a mile from the coast. He could see that the his neighbor and long friend has already sent troops to secure the Fanatikan portion, but yet... England has yet to arrive..... and why shouldn't fanatika own the entire island? He quickly set a route on the far northwestern side of the english portion. From there he marched his troops to the only mountains within the English portion. His troops adapted to hilly and steep terrian quickly adapted to the mountain and set up camp. Claiming this part of the island for Fanatika.*

Strider, eh? Well, at least you're a nice and... pleasant... person.

I feel sorry for the the ones who recide on this iskand if we develope som nukies... hehe....

Hey folks, knots are a measurement of speed, not distance. :rolleyes:

Ah yes, you are correct. I meant 2,000 nautical miles, not knots.

The soccer team; Icy Penguins Manager, John Christer, Armed his soccer team and paradropped in the middle of the island. They were heavily armed and fought for for land so that they could have a place to build a training center and get some gems to support their building of the first soccer stadium in Fanatika. After We kicked some elven butt, The Icy Penguins terretory looked like this:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/wetooksome.jpg

*Three X-Wings fly above the island.*

Zarn: Halt! I will not permit absolute chaos on this island. Everything should be dealt with peacefully. There is no need to fight over this land. Anyone that refuses to try to deal with this peacefully, is considered hostile to the Jedi Council. If someone retaliates from an attack, we will not consider them hostile.

*The three X-Wings circle the island, spotting all the factions. Then they leave.*


edit: OOC simplification: the first to incite a fight is considered the have declared war on the Council.

Hmmm... I dont think our advancment in the techs allows you to use X-wings... And since we havent invented the laser, your sabers dont works so what have we to be afraid of? How many people are jedis anway? two? hehe....

1) Zarn (Lord Master) (Two Green)
2) CivGeneral (Secondary Lord Master) (Blue)
3) Stuck_As_a_Mac (Head Trainer- a new title) (Green)
4) Plexus (The Chosen One) (Blue)
5) Chieftess (Green)
6) Falcon (Blue)
7) Gunning1 (Green)
8) SKILORD (Blue)

9) Strider (Blue)
10) Naervad (Blue)
11) Paalikle (Green)
12) Hadrian II (Blue)
13) Ice Eye (Purple)
14) samizdat (Blue)
15) TNG (Purple)


Lightsabers don't require tech, but the Force. Besides, the X-Wings are being sold, because of the late tech.

Ok, then, I wont go to conflict, but I wont give up any terretory either..

Originally posted by Sir John
Ok, then, I wont go to conflict, but I wont give up any terretory either..

You are allowed to defend yourself. The Council sees the current borders as the temporary ones until negotiations in the Jedi Temple in Bavaria.

The Jedi Has no power over Tiburòn Island and Im pretty sure that the other inhabitants here garee with me.. The Jedi council has no rights deciding the country limits...

Originally posted by Sir John
The Jedi Has no power over Tiburòn Island and Im pretty sure that the other inhabitants here garee with me.. The Jedi council has no rights deciding the country limits...

You misunderstood. We want to hold negotiations. We are not the ones that will decide who gets what.

I wish to state my intentions to take control of the island, for the good of Fanatika.

Originally posted by Plexus
I wish to state my intentions to take control of the island, for the good of Fanatika.

Plexus. You are the Chosen one, but don't rush things. You still have way too much to learn. Beating a sith, doesn't make one indestructable. Uses your senses.

Vanir wishes to announce that intends to use its full military force to ensure that the island remains FREE, INTERFACTIONAL TERRITORY (the way Bavaria once was in Medieval times.) Any attempt to take control of the entire island by any one group will be met with overwhelming force from Vanir. We lay no claim to any territory on the island, as we are well passed our days of expansion. To deter anyone from getting the idea of taking control of the island, Vanir is placing 2 Mounted Infantry Divisions (infantry in guncarrier halftracks) and 1 Armored Division, along with a squadron of fighter/bombers. Let it be known by all that this is a force of peacekeeping, not of occupation. And Plexus, know that if you do follow through with your intentions, you will not be excused from Vanirian intervention because of your membership in the Jedi Council. I am sure Lord Zarn would not disagree with me that steps would have to be taken to destroy you and your army.

The Dadaists sense danger
Reedy: Im gettin the hell outta here!
And with that, the dadaists leave. Besides, they have to go tourture Bill Gates.
@GM: Cupertania is with you on this one. Sir SaaM the Sensible cedes temporary control of the Cupertanian Guard (aprox 10,000 infantrymen)
A small amount of Dadaists remain, in their small colony, hoping for the looming war to pass.
And John: Please dont piss off the Jedi. You wouldnt want to anger a high ranking council member and his city now, would you?
(Penguin: Home to over 300 Jedi, all trained by the Sir SaaMs)

Yes, Grandmaster. I will send six Jedi squads (one squad: 8 Jedi) to your assiatnace. Two (of the three) X-Wings, are also available for use.

That puts the total peacekeeping force (so far) at:

2 Division Mounted Infantry (Vanir)
1 Division Armor (Vanir)
1 Squadron Fighter/Bombers (Vanir)
1 Division Infantry (Cupertania)
6 Squads Jedi (Jedi Council)
2 X-Wing fighters (Jedi Council)

Anybody still interested in controlling the island? ;)

Also, although they will not be stationed on the island, I have 2 Rangers (special forces) teams ready to quick-deploy anywhere in the world the moment hostilities begin. Remember that this means that if you attack the island, I can have 16 special forces operaters on your home soil and in your house within an hour.

The fleet of Rhineland lands, disembarking 3 complete brigades of heavy infantry and 2 artillery companies. More welcome than the troops and securing force are the vast supplies of foodstuffs that accompany them. As the land was far too new to supply sustenance of the many peoples who had landed there the relief was critical.

The Count of Schlachtfeld quickly set about fulfilling the legal requirements of officially claiming the island for Fanatika. The captured English frigates and several privateers that were enlisted in Huntington patrolled the waters, depriving Chinese and English interests from access to the isle. A permanent military base was begun, handled by the famed Vanir Engineers. Scouts and emisaries were sent to all of the factions on the island informing them where provision stations would be set up in their areas.

A second convoy of provisioning ships, sent by the Count of Eis Mauer were sent to various spots of the aisle to help the various colonists until the full provisioning stations could be implemented.

It was vitally important that these early settlers be successful and the resources of Sud Bezits and Eis Mauer were doing everything possible to ensure that success.

The Dadaists remain in their colony.
Reedy: Anybody here? Im back and Ive brought Bill Gates with me. Were going to force him to speak only in Binary! (OCC: in accordance to the tech rules, Computers are technically one tech away, allowing me to hold the software mongol as prisoner)
We got the Peacekeeping forces to sign off on our community. We are officially "Dadaton", the southern branch of Cupertania.
So, feel free to go on with whatever art you had planed. Just stay inside the town walls.
And so the Dada comunity was allowed to stay on the island, inhabiting one small tile (the bonus grassland w/ gem). While this went on, however, war was on the brink, with Cupertania fighting in it.

An aerial convoy of 20 four-engine cargo planes flies in to the airstrip recently built on the island by the Vanirian Engineering Corps. They land and unload their freight: MREs, purified drinking water, gasoline, aircraft fuel, ammunition, and medicine. The supplies are distributed to the various Vanirian units, local civilians, and the rest is stockpiled in the warehouse at the airfield. The planes then return to mainland Fanatika.

lol... I still control a good portion of the island, but as I've said... it was for Fanatika... Not my house.

*Strider starts to make a smaller military base on the side of the island he's on.... He quickly writes a missive to Count of Schlachtfeld telling him that his troops will continue to protect this portion intill further notice or orders*

Strider, let me remind you that any military action undertaken against any other faction on the island will be appropriatey responded to by Coalition peacekeepers.

Let's see if I can get this up.

And I don't own anything? Oh well...

andrew notices peacekepping forces flying 2-engine fighter/bomber aircraft to the island. the news ses the x-wings are coming back to refuel. he is in a hotel in the capital of fanatika. he sees some 6-engine transports roaring out over the sea, escorted by the fighter/bombers he had seen afew minutes ago. he decides to go to the airbase to watch more fighter/bombers take off.

Sorry. You didn't claim any land.

This is my suggestion for borders. You don't have to agree. Disagreeing is not an act of war. Just tell Fanatika what you think. I am here to settle any dispute.

Bavaria= current president. If the prez does not participate in the rpg it goes to the VP, then the domestic leader, etc...

How come you take of my land to make a fedral government base?

Take from those elfes instead, they have almost half the island...

It was a suggestion. Besides, two people had claims to it. You were even late to the island, anyway.

The Icy Penguins build a harbour on our coast line. Then they get more people by boat and start a colony near the biggest gem resource on th island. It lies 1500 meters up on the mountain and is therefore atractable as a living place since it is good and cleen mountain air up here. The colony grows into a city at size 4. They build a palace for Sir John... :D :D :D :D
The city is named Tiburòn City and its one of the richest citys in the world because of the enormus gem mine just outside the city.
After about 6 months, soccer is the main sport in Tiburòn City and The people thrive...
1 month later, The Regions name is elected. It called Bodø. The harbour grows into a small town at size 1. The town is called The Harbour...

Two more Jedi squads are being place on the island. That is 64 Jedi (eight squads) on the ground. Two are in the air.

Where do you actuall have your base??

OOC: @Zarn - Hmm, I am the Vice President :D, Let me know what to do :).

Originally posted by Sir John
Where do you actuall have your base??

That's confidental. The coalition is not at liberty to reveil the location.

Originally posted by CivGeneral
OOC: @Zarn - Hmm, I am the Vice President :D, Let me know what to do :).

OOC: I need to rally support for the coalition from the nobility. Vanir and Cupertania already support us.

lol... You have to put it in somones terretory and I think that would be considered agressive...

Originally posted by Sir John
lol... You have to put it in somones terretory and I think that would be considered agressive...

Nope. There are no exact boundries, anyway. Besides, we are not a faction, but the peacekeeping force. This is Fanatikan land, not individual nations.

Well, I have exsact boundries, so as long as youre not inside them, I wont care...

I dont think we need any peacekeeping forces here, since ther edoesnt seem to be any tension.. the only tension here are made by the jedi council...

Originally posted by Sir John
Well, I have exsact boundries, so as long as youre not inside them, I wont care...

I dont think we need any peacekeeping forces here, since ther edoesnt seem to be any tension.. the only tension here are made by the jedi council...

I don't think so. You have settled yourself in territory that belonged to the other three factions.

Actually the terreroty I settled in was the one originaly claimed by england and in a couple of turns england doesnt exists... The boarders as the are on the image ar ethe final ones as I am concerned.. I took some land before the pic was posted so you can say that I took land from other since you dont knoe where they took land first...

You claimed from all the other factions. Each claimed ALL the land from each nation that was to have a piece.

Zarn - Just to lett you know, you have a Jedi Knight in Vanir :).

I know. Three of the four people in Vanir showed open support. Snow, GM, and you all showed it. GM is also a spiritualist, so he could influence them. Come to think of it Vanir is powerful influences on the Council and Spiritualism.

I allow the Jedi Council to use my land as troop recovery. The people of Tiburon City will treat you well...

Vanir is glad to see that the tensions are declining. However, to absolutely ensure that nothing happens, I am sending a squadron of 6-engine heavy bombers to the island. That is all.

We are glad that you send peacekeeping forces, but we must remind that some of the people of the tiburon island can rise in a rebellion if they feel to heavily watched over..

Then your people should know that any aggression from them means war with several factions that make up the peacekeepers.

Sir John, I am warning you now. If one of your citizens so much as spits at a Coalition peacekeeper, I will level your entire city with my bombers. Do not underestimate us. We do not much like being threatened by the likes of you.

Sir John... Another insult and I will be forced to kick you out of Penguin. As a Jedi, A mayor, A prince, A governor and A Vaniran knight, you step a toe out of line and I will be piloting that first bommer.

So... Let me understand this... You plan on keeping peace by making war? Seems like one heck of a plan to me.

Just because you are the Great Prince of Vanir does not mean anything. You get cocky to fast... which is a major flaw.

Unless I get attacked... I have no plans to attack someone esle. Neither does the other occupants seem to. I request you leave.... Intill you do this island will never be in peace.

Also... I support Zarn's bordor layout for the ownership of the island.

No, my good Prince Utopia, I intend to keep the peace by making people think twice before launching any aggressive attacks. I have just as much right to be here as you do; we are guests of Cupertania, and are staying within their borders. We will not leave until we are certain that nobody harbors any ambitions of total control. And believe me, Sir Strider, if I were as cocky as you say, I would taken control of the island by now. I have not so much as claimed any territory, something you cannot say. Perhaps you only wish us to leave because you yourselves secretly wish to launch an attack? I know not. We will stay, and will not leave until we are absolutely sure that neither Sir John, nor you, nor Noldodan's elves are planning anything.

On a different note, it seems that Zarn's plan is receiving widespread approval. That is good. :)

Originally posted by Grandmaster
No, my good Prince Utopia, I intend to keep the peace by making people think twice before launching any aggressive attacks. I have just as much right to be here as you do; we are guests of Cupertania, and are staying within their borders. We will not leave until we are certain that nobody harbors any ambitions of total control. And believe me, Sir Strider, if I were as cocky as you say, I would taken control of the island by now. I have not so much as claimed any territory, something you cannot say. Perhaps you only wish us to leave because you yourselves secretly wish to launch an attack? I know not. We will stay, and will not leave until we are absolutely sure that neither Sir John, nor you, nor Noldodan's elves are planning anything.

On a different note, it seems that Zarn's plan is receiving widespread approval. That is good. :)

First off... Cupertania has been a Utopia allie longer than it has been Vanir... Cupertania also aided Utopia in a conflict against Vanir. Utopia has no reason to attack one of it's greater allies.

Sir John is a Squire of mine... He is part of my house... as is Sir Saam and CivGeneral... All of which are also within Vanir... and control there own house's as well....

The only person I would have any reason to attack would be the elves.... And that would be to only control more of the island myself. But if I wanted more of the island for myself... why then do I support Zarns plan?

Your logic is admirable, Strider. Indeed, there is no good reason why you would attack anyone. But there is no reason for me to leave either, as the threat of a war between any other faction still remains. I will stay within the bounds of New Cupertania until all threats have passed. Even you cannot deny that Sir John specifically mentioned that his citizens might become "restless" and launch an "uprising." Last I checked, that is a subtle way of putting "if you don't leave me the hell alone, I'll attack you." Sounds like a threat to my way of thinking, my friend. The topic is dead; I am staying, with the understanding that you have no motive for war.

Hello again. I have been away unexpectedly for a couple days, and I am sorry about that. I'm just popping in to let everyone know that I fully support Zarn's plan, and further state that I wish to make a gift to the government, the mountain SW of their current holdings, and also the hills directly south of it. I make this gift in goodwill, and encourage the other landowners of Tiburón Island to do the same.

I further wish to state that currently the heavy weaponry from the mainland is being shipped out by the Montpelier, including the artillery, machine guns and the Montpelier itself. I also wish to make it known that the Elves and I have no quarrel with the other factions residing on the island, and encourage them to welcome the peacekeepers and help them in any way possible. Thank you.

Um.. strider... Im a Knight of Vanir. Im also in the Council. I pledged troops. I wouldnt recomend starting any conflicts now.

Originally posted by Stuck_As_a_Mac
Um.. strider... Im a Knight of Vanir. Im also in the Council. I pledged troops. I wouldnt recomend starting any conflicts now.

I'm not starting any conflicts.... I'm giving him advice... advice which he turned down. People like to do stuff by themselves... with no guard or peace keepers breathing down there back. I was simply advising him that the best way to keep the peace was to leave. (As Sir John does not have any problems with the other fractions of the island... He only has problems with the peace keepers themselves)

Originally posted by Sir John
The soccer team; Icy Penguins Manager, John Christer, Armed his soccer team and paradropped in the middle of the island. They were heavily armed and fought for for land so that they could have a place to build a training center and get some gems to support their building of the first soccer stadium in Fanatika. After We kicked some elven butt, The Icy Penguins terretory looked like this:

Two things: No paratrooping! Remember we have tech rules! The other thing: I won't attack you for this, but it sure does make me want to...

Originally posted by Noldodan


Two things: No paratrooping! Remember we have tech rules! The other thing: I won't attack you for this, but it sure does make me want to...

Actually... He didn't take any terrority from the elves... He took it from myself and Saam.

My final decision is this:

1 division of Vanirian light infantry will remain on the island, staying within the borders of Cupertania's territory. They will be supported by a suqadron of fighter/bomber aircraft. They will serve partially as peacekeepers, partially as defenders of Cupertania (Vanir's allie), and partially as a projection of Vanirian power over a small area of the island (as we have no claims on actual territory.) This will not change, no matter how much Strider or anyone else badgers me.

If all support the plan, then the peacekeepers can withdraw. I will withdraw the two squads I just send. I will also withdraw an additional three squads. Only three remain (24 jedi).

Did Sir John attack Nold?
A rulling, please.

1) If Zarn is correct and all have approved the plan, then the entire Vanirian force (except for a small brigade-sized infantry unit) will be withdrawn.

2) I will leave the ruling on Sir John and Noldodan up to everyone else. If it is ruled as an attack, and my allies in Cupertania and the Council choose to respond, then the whole of Vanirian force (2 mounted infantry and 1 armored division, plus aircraft) will be used against the agressor.

Could someone fill me in on what's been happening so I can start writing stories, I am a Jedi Padawan and Archduke of Vanir for story references.

The Scientists Arives

Helicoper pilot: Are you sure you want to land here

Dr. Conrad: Yes, We want to land here.

Dr. Ed: Great, Just what I need, more explosions and a sooty face

Dr. Conrad: Aw quit your Belly aching. THis is one of the most intresting finds in all of Fanatika

Dr. Ed: Ok if you say so, lets just get the samples of gems and get out of here

The forces of Süd-Besitz will remain, as will those of Eis Mauer (unless the Count recalls them). The troopers, artillery and fleet of Süd-Besitz are there to protect the island from foreign attack, especially the treacherous Chinese dynasty. The provisioning points set up and run by Eis Mauer are for the benefit of all colonists and are there to help all equally to ensure their success by supplying foodstuffs and critical supplies.

I cant see how anybody sees me as a threat when the only "military" I hvae is a soccer team.. hehe... I have never threathend anyone and I apologize if anyone saw it that way. What I meant with the people might making a rebellion, was that they are beginning to get a little tired of all the arguing... As far as I see it, there doesnt seem to be much tensions between the different factions here so I dont see why it snescerry to keep more forces then needed for defence... I agree with boarders suggested by Zarn The Jedi Master

@Stuck: I never attacked any nolds, I cant see where you got that from...

Sir John, I suggest that you make sure that your men don't revolt. I am willing to withdraw my troops as per what was outlined to Strider, but a revolt would be seen as an act of war if other factions were hurt, and while that threat remains, my troops must also.

Well, it looks like my plan is coming alive. The X-wings are going to return to the Jedi Docking Bay.

Thanks to the elves for the extra land.

Wait.. how much teritory did he take from me? If its more then a single tile, I will take action to retrieve it.
Sir John: After reading the map again, it has become clear that you have taken 2 tiles of Cupertanian soil. You have also infringend on the land of our ally, Utopia, claiming three tiles.
Therefore,

In the name of Sir Stuck_as_a_Mac the Sensible, Sir Stuck_as_a_Mac the Reedy, Sir Stuck_as_a_Mac the Gubernatorial IV, Sir Stuck_as_a_Mac the Mellow and every and all Sir Stuck_as_a_Mac's before and after them, Sir Stuck_as_a_Mac on up, I hereby decree that you return at least one of these tiles within the next 24 hours or issue a state of war against the houses of Vanir, Cupertania and Utopia.

That is all.

Stuck, if you touch him, you are out of the Council. Your position as head trainer would go to Chieftess. Think first. You have already accepted the proposition.

Why do so much oppose this war? It was he who attacked me, not me to him. I am only reclaiming what is rightfully mine (Quote FA Advisor: "Yea, thats the ticket!"). Still, why so Anti-War?
@zarn- we ended DG1 w/ a civil war. Why not end DG2 the same?

Rightfully? The land rightfully belongs to Bavaria. The land was taken by Fanatikans, therfore it belongs to Fanatika.

On behalf of Vanir and Cupertania I hereby announce that our armies will be undertaking a joint training excercise in the Cupertanian area of the island. This is in no way a military action against any faction on the island. We will be using dummy ammunition that will only register a hit on the computer sensors our units are equiped with. Large numbers of tanks, IFVs, artillery pieces, soldiers, and aircraft will be in the area, but DO NOT be alarmed. That is all.

Yes, we will be undergoing war games to train our infantry into new Mechanicaliezed Infantry. Its a training game. And Sir John- 22 hours left. Just return the tiles.

Day 1- SaaM the Sensible Airfield & Proving Grounds- Weapons Training

The Cupertanian and Vanirian forces are assembled at the Proving Ground. They stand in formation, awaiting the arrival of the Vanirian generals who will be training them in their new weapons and tactics. The generals arrive, and begin to address the troops. After a short speech, a group of NCOs divides the assembled warriors into units and takes them to train them. The training is more drastic for the Cupertanian forces, who must learn not only how to serve as Mechanized Infantry, but who also must be acquainted with all the basic infantry weapons that have long been in use within the Vanirian military. The Cupertanians are trained in the use of assault rifles, machine guns, pistols, rocket-propelled grenades, hand grenades, land mines, and other infantry weapons. The Vanirians also receive refresher courses in these weapons. Both armies are trained in the use of a number of vehicles. These include light and heavy tanks, jeeps, trucks, half-tracks, and the new Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV.) The IFV is a medium-armored vehicle, wheeled instead of tracked, that can carry 8 heavy infantrymen and their supplies, and also provides superior firepower with a 20mm chain gun and a rocket launcher. The soldiers learn to drive, operate the vehicle's weapons, and ride the vehicle. They also learn how to attack out of the vehicle into a hostile battlefield environment. At the same time, back on SaaM the Sensible Airfield, Cupertanian and Vanirian pilots are learning to fly combat aircraft. The Vanirians receive refresher courses in flying the traditional bombers, and learn to fly the new jet fighters, while the Cupertanian's learn all the aircraft for the first time. When the day is over, all sides are fully trained in all the weapons of modern warfare. The troops return to their barracks for the night.

Chapter Two: Dealing with riots, civil disobedience, tomatoes
The next day, the troops learned the final touches of the new ways of combat before the war games began. Sure, they were now well versed in traditonal combat, but what about untraditional? The Dada uprising was over, but Sir SaaM the Reedy was still alive. Heading to the Penguin School of Preforming Arts, Reedy brought the Cupertanian troops and the Elite Sierra Divison of the Vaniran Army, the same one that tried to kill him with (c)rap, to learn the art of unconventional warfare. This was only to be used in cases of civil disorder, mass riots, and any other odd circumstances they may encounter.
Reedy: Ready, Improper Emborchoure, BLOW!!
Soon, the troops could stun people with horrible renditons of songs, odd works of art. They could throw tomatoes with accuracy and engage in pie fights. They were ready for anything that came up to them.

Soon... The war games will start
And Sir John: 21

Sir John and Sir Saam are both Utopian squires... Thus Utopia has only one ruling in this decision. We will support the defender in any battles... If Saam takes the offensive we will defend Sir John... If the war continues and Sir John starts winning we will defend Sir Saam...

Decleration by Sir John: I have No intends of going to war, so what ever. But If any of my soil is inhabited by hostile (I do not talk about peacekeeping forces) forces, I will see that as an attack and I will draft a large panzer army to retaliate any such attack. I urge all provinces on Tiburòn Island to remain calm and not loose thir temper.. Since the "war" on Tiburòn island is in the medias searchlight, it would hurt anyones reputation if they were to be an agressor.

BTW: @stuck: how can you say I attacked the utopian house? Im a squire there... You can not say that attacked anyone else either.. When I entered the island, I wrote that I fought of some elves, not you.. (No offence to the glorious elves)

OOC: This almost sounds like the End Game Civil War. Right Strider, I bet you remembered them ;)

Originally posted by Sir John
When I entered the island, I wrote that I fought of some elves, not you.. (No offence to the glorious elves)

Due to recent suggestions by uninvolved parties, I have decided not to take action against Sir John, as no Elves were killed, suffering only minor injuries. However, my Eagle troops are ready to take action against Sir John at the slightest provocation.

@Stuck- Demand what you want but do not initiate hostilites. I would rather you negotiate, though.

@Sir John- You have entered the island after the three other factions claimed ALL the territory. Think about that before you take action.

I will put my stance up her eagain, once again..

I will not gve up terretory.
I will not atack ayone.
I will retaliate any attack on my terretory.
I will not move from the Island, unless Im directly ordered by The Fanatikan Government (something that probably wont happen)

Day 2- The Fields of New Cupertania- Tactical Wargaming

Today the Cupertanian and Vanirian forces were ready to try out the new weapons they had learned to use. This was to be the first war game, in which the NCOs would devise new tactics that utilized the new weapons. It was Vanir against Cupertania, in full simulated combat. It was to be open battle, no entering settlements. That would come later, in the Urban Wargame. At a signal, the two armies began to move. They were about 30 miles apart, and approaching each other. It was a Vanirian jet fighter on armed recon that first spotted the Cupertanians. He radioed back to his unit, giving the position of the opposing force. He then circles back, targeting the Cupertanians. Under a hail of simulated AAA fire, the aircraft drops two dummy bombs on a Cupertanian IFV. The bombs register a hit, and the vehicle is eliminated from the game. The fighter returns to base.

The two armies continue forward, and are now within 20 miles of one another. Cupertanian and Vanirian aircraft are both in the sky. The Vanirians are concentrating on tactical bombing, while the Cupertanians are more concerned with air defense. The fighters tangle in the air over the Cupertanian armor column. The most skilled of the Cupertanian pilots maneuvers his plane like a pro, locking on to two opposing aircraft and hitting the kill button. This registers hits on the two planes and counts them as casualties. As per the wargame rules, they return to base. The Vanirians eventually "shoot" down 3 Cupertanian aircraft and chase the others off, breaking through the air defenses to drop several tons of "bombs" on the enemy column. Several light vehicles are knocked out.

Shortly after that, the two main forces came within firing range. The Vanirian soldiers, who were more experiences, were able to react faster. The front-line tanks took aim at Cupertanian vehicles and fired with great accuracy, only missing one that they had targeted. Simultaneously, the Vanirian cannon and missile artillery opens fire on the rear of the Cupertanian force, inflicting heavy damage. By this time, the soldiers of Sir SaaM are firing back. Tanks on both sides maneuver for superior position. The artillery bombardment from the Vanirians is ceaseless, and they concentrate much of their fire on the enemy artillery pieces. The Cupertanians fire back only sporadically with their heavy guns. As the tanks and cannons duke it out, Cupertania shows its real strength: infantry warfare. The trucks, halftracks, and IFVs surge forward, charging through the Vanirian infantry formations, and taking only a few casualties. The Cupertanian infantry dismounts and makes good use of its powerful new assault rifles, heavy machine guns, and RPGs. The cut down Vanirian troopers in droves. Several tanks are knocked out by their rocket-grenades. However, once the Vanirians recover from the shock, they use their superior armor to encircle and trap the infantry. They then push inward, crushing the Cupertanian force with withering firepower. Those that are not destroyed by the tanks fall victim to highly accurate artillery fire. Halftrack guncarriers spray simulated hot lead in sheets at the surviving infantry. The firing stops for a short moment as the soldiers are struck in awe by the sound of heavy bombers flying overhead. A flight of 6-engine aircraft passes overhead and opens its bomb bays. The simulation weapons fall and carpet the battlefield, inflicting massive damage. In retaliation, the entire squadron of Vanirian heavy bombers takes wing, escorted by 2 flights of jet fighters and another flight of fighter/bombers. The jet fighters chase down the Cupertanian bombers as they return to base, shooting down 5 of the 8 bombers. The Vanirian bombers wait until they are entirely over the Cupertanian secondary formation (the rear area where the reserve infantry, reserve vehicles, and artillery are located) before dropping the bombs. Several hundred tons of explosive fall on the hapless warriors. They are largely obliterated. Several units of infantry continue to outfight their Vanirian counterparts on the ground, but the Cupertanian artillery and armor has been largely destroyed. The few Cupertanian IFVs and tanks remaining are targeted by the flight of fighter/bombers as they come down to divebombing level. They even use their cannons against the few tight-packed pockets of Cupertanian infantry remaining. They return to base, while the escort fighters remain in the air, providing air cover to keep Cupertanian bombers away.

The battle dragged on for a while longer, until finally the Cupertanian front line collapsed under the force of Vanirian armor and artillery. The Vanirian infantry fell back to regroup, while the tanks, guncarriers, trucks, and IFVs (without infantry) surged forward, cutting into the formation of reserve troops that had been pummeled by the carpet bombing and had not been expecting to fight so soon. They were easilly defeated with few Vanirian casualties. The vehicles continued on to the artillery and supply lines. Supply vehicles like fuel trucks, ammo trucks, command-and-control vehicles, and medevac vehicles were destroyed without trouble. The artillery fired a few more desperate rounds that overshot the moving Vanirians. The heavy guns and rocket batteries were abandoned as the gunners engaged dismounted tankers and IFV drivers in melee close combat. Within minutes of this occuring, the battle was over. Vanir had been victorious, but at the cost of nearly 2 flights of aircraft and 2 brigades of ground troops. Cupertania would need more practice to win, and Vanir would need more practice to win without such high casualties.

Originally posted by CivGeneral
OOC: This almost sounds like the End Game Civil War. Right Strider, I bet you remembered them ;)

Remember them? I was the leader of one of the sides in it.. :) I FOUGHT in it :)

Scientists in the Fieild. Extention to "Day 2- The Fields of New Cupertania- Tactical Wargaming"

After Dr. Ed and Dr. Conrad have jumped off the aircraft. Hostile forces has shot down the helicopter leving the two stranded

Dr. Ed: Who in the World attacked us?!

Dr. Conrad: I dont care who, just gather thoes Glowing rocks over there

The Scientists were gathering an Element unknown to anyone. Suddenly Vanir's Forces came to there direction. But on the other side, the Enemy was fast approaching to the area

Grandmaster: What in the world are you doing here

Dr. Conrad: We are collecting these Glowing rocks

Dr. Ed: I have designed some sourt of ship that will run on this Element.

Grandmaster: Gather what you can get and follow me

The Scientists finish gathering the Unknown Element and follows Grandmaster to his base to return home safely

At the Utopian Special Palace

Messanger: Sir, The report from the leaders of the island are in!

Strider: Thank you, you many leave.

Sargant Tectition IV
Tensions are high here.
I am afraid that we may
come under attack soon.
Sir Saam and Sir John
may be at war soon. I am
afraid that if war does
start that both sides will
try to force us to join in
the war. I do not have
the authorization to
declare war against a
Utopian Squire, thus...
I urge you come to the
island. Immediantly.

Srider- Stuck is asking the Council for help. You, Stuck, and possibly Sir John are all in the Council. Use it.

same post as I posted in the jedi council, it wil fit here to:

The elves actually claimed all the land not just the chinese part.. So you did take something from them... I dont think Strider will support the one that attacks, but I maight be wrong. I will not give up the tiles as they belong to the people of Tiburòn City Wich is now a city on size 9. They support me in my actions of not giving away any land so I will contuniue to stand where I am now. If you attack me I will defend myself and my people. Take that as a warning, not as a threat... I would advise you to stay calm and not engage in hostile activitys. Ive said that I will not attack you and you should say the same so that we can live in peace. Once Again I say that giving up my peoples land is out of the question. It will not happen. Since Strider has not been hostile to me in any way, Im willing to share my land with him (not give it away), but I will not let you even tresspass over my boarders because of your hostile attitude. There was conflict in the begginig. some people fough some people. Some people took some and others took some other land. Respect the way the borders were put by Zarn the Jedi Master and make peace. If you attack me I will take some of your land and hold it untill you give up any war you might engage in. Please think of the people of Tiburon Island and stop this warmongering.

Utopia will only take action in the defense of the one who is attacked. We have no reason demanding to have a tile back from Sir John. We got are fair share... MORE than are fair share.

Utopia will act only to keep peace.

Strider: the council demands the tiles back. it went through a vote.

Originally posted by Stuck_As_a_Mac
Strider: the council demands the tiles back. it went through a vote.

Like I said... I GOT my fair share of the island... MORE than my fair share... You can demand your tile back.... Fine by me... but I don't want more land.... Also... I will only take action to defend the person who is attacked.... If you attack Sir John I will act ONLY to defend him... Not to take more terrority.... If Sir John decides to take terrority from you... I will act to keep that terrority into your hands....

Strider, now you and Sir Kohn are at risk in the Council. Need I remind you that both CivGeneral and I back Stuck's resolution.

Originally posted by Zarn
Strider, now you and Sir Kohn are at risk in the Council. Need I remind you that both CivGeneral and I back Stuck's resolution.

No one but me decides what Utopia does or doesn't do... What Utopia wants or doesn't want.... Not even the council.

Strider, you know that Utopia cannot hope to stand against a united Cupertania and Vanir. Give it up; its only 2 tiles, and they aren't even yours! Is it really worth your position in the Council, and the lives of your boys in uniform?

Originally posted by Grandmaster
Strider, you know that Utopia cannot hope to stand against a united Cupertania and Vanir. Give it up; its only 2 tiles, and they aren't even yours! Is it really worth your position in the Council, and the lives of your boys in uniform?

Grandmaster... The demand was that Sir John give Saam ONE tile back and ME one tile back.... Utopia has stood against Vanir before... and will do it again....

Sir John is my squire... I HAVE to defend him.

Talk about peace keeping.... The people who come here to keep the peace are starting war....

OOC: OK, I misread SaaM's post... one tile it is.

IC:

Strider, we accept that you must defend your squire. Vanir would do the same of its fosterlings. As such, we will not interfere in this conflict. It will be seen a) as a civil conflict within Utopia, and b) as a duel between Jedi. As per the Vanir Combined Arms Doctrine, the prior calls for Vanirian neutrality, with nothing more than limited bombing in support of the faction we are sided with. The latter calls for me, as a Jedi, to follow any orders given to me by my superior in the Council. Meaning, I will fight only if ordered to by Zarn, but I will use my air force in support of Cupertania if Sir John attacks within its rightful borders.

I would like to add my slant on this. If Sir John goes to war with ANYONE, I will initiate hostilities with him immediately. You should never have attacked the Elven Confederacy.

delete this, the last two posts were made hwile I was posting this.

Sir John: The pruces are steeper then ever. Return the tiles or be DESTROYED

You do not have to return Strider's tile, but pay heed Sir John, is one tile worth the war?

I will not give up the tile. I only too enought tiles to give a line from the gem I have to the ocean. I will keep this. I thank you very much for your support Strider and I aasure that I will not try to take any of stucks tiles, only defend my own. I will not atttacka nayone. I will also not engage in combat with anyone that refrains from or stops makinghostile actions. I advice all of you to reconsider this war since I now have a city size 22. That meens I can draft an army of aboyut 20 panzers. I really dont think you want to do that. I also have Great Black Dragons I can use to burn up your forces. I dont want to hurt anyone, but I will kick your *ss If you dont cease hostilitys...

One of the main reasons I do not want to give a away a tile is that I took it. Its mine now. You, stuck, took tiles from the elves., but they are nice guys and they dont claim back what you fought to take from them. They can deal with it. Why cant you???

Originally posted by Sir John
I will not give up the tile. I only too enought tiles to give a line from the gem I have to the ocean. I will keep this. I thank you very much for your support Strider and I aasure that I will not try to take any of stucks tiles, only defend my own. I will not atttacka nayone. I will also not engage in combat with anyone that refrains from or stops makinghostile actions. I advice all of you to reconsider this war since I now have a city size 22. That meens I can draft an army of aboyut 20 panzers. I really dont think you want to do that. I also have Great Black Dragons I can use to burn up your forces. I dont want to hurt anyone, but I will kick your *ss If you dont cease hostilitys...

One of the main reasons I do not want to give a away a tile is that I took it. Its mine now. You, stuck, took tiles from the elves., but they are nice guys and they dont claim back what you fought to take from them. They can deal with it. Why cant you???

Couple things odd about this post. Size 22? There's not enough food to do that! And since when could you draft Panzers? Also, regarding the thing at the bottom: The only reason I decided to let that go was because, upon further reflection, it was clear to me that it was unfair to claim the whole island, so I decided to let that go unpunished and unthought of. You, on the other hand...

OOC: Personally you're all a bunch of greedy land grabbers and should shut your traps. Read back and you'll see that I had started the progression, showing how with actual technology available at the time the island could be claimed. Not a one of you addressed the problems of food, supplies, how to live and settle. The island was a barren rock! Only my posts had anything to do with it. You all just magically appeared on the island with giant eagles and soccer teams and apportioned it from the militant foreign countries that had claimed it or from Fanatika itself. One minute I'm preparing for nice stories of settlement and conflict, partnerships and antagonism, the next hour the entire island has been snapped up in farsical greedy posts.

IC: The Rhineland forces, including the Eis Mauer provisioners and Süd-Besitz island defenders, have departed the isle. A parting dispatch from their commander wished everybody luck and gave a fond farewell.

Originally posted by Shaitan
OOC: Personally you're all a bunch of greedy land grabbers and should shut your traps. Read back and you'll see that I had started the progression, showing how with actual technology available at the time the island could be claimed. Not a one of you addressed the problems of food, supplies, how to live and settle. The island was a barren rock!

Darn straight we're greedy. :D And addressing the problems of supplies: Elves, after all, living most of their lives in the wilderness, are quite used to providing for themselves with forage. They patrol the western lands mostly in small bands of 10-20, each band with a pair of eagle scouts as well. The closest things to settlements are the hovels in the mountains to the Northeast, and these are merely for shelter from fierce winds and cold.

Also, in recognition of recent events, the Montpelier will once again be dispatched to the island, carrying with it self-propelled artillery, improved rifles, mortars, explosives, and LOTS AND LOTS of ammunition. After delivering these munitions, it will then depart back to the mainland to load ammunition for it's main guns. Have a nice day!

If you read in some of my first posts after I settled on the Island, I said that we had built a harbour. There we get supplies from Fanatika and we also get a lot of fihs there as well.... So I do have enough food for a size 22. And why cant I draft panzers? If they can build panzers in Fanatika I should be fully able to draft them here since I controll the city.. I just want enough land to have a land line from a Gem to a shore. If anyone see another place where I could do this I would be happy to trade a smaller place for my place now wich is quite small... I only need a shoreline and gems. I dont need more for my city and the people there tpo grow and thrive.. I Woudnt say that Im so greedy since I have only very little land, and if anyone remember I did start the whole thread. I think I should at least be entitled to a little land. None woudl have the land If I hadnt started the thread.. But anyaway.. I will see trougn the maps and see if I can find a way to solve the problem peace fully... Just keep your forces back, stuck and Ill see how we can do this.. Im getting tired of all the fighting and nagging...

Originally posted by Noldodan
And addressing the problems of supplies: Elves, after all, living most of their lives in the wilderness, are quite used to providing for themselves with forage.
There is nothing to forage on a newly sprung volcanic island. That was the point. Ground smoking. Magma flowing. Danger, danger, danger.

There was excellent story telling potential here but it all went away when greed declared that verdant forests, grassy hills and verdant grasslands errupted from the basalt overnight.

Originally posted by Shaitan
There was excellent story telling potential here but it all went away when greed declared that verdant forests, grassy hills and verdant grasslands errupted from the basalt overnight.

Ahhh, I THINK I see grasslands on the map that Chieftess made, but I could be wrong, I suppose...

With this suggestion it could be peace. I will move the city to my new terretoy if this is acsepted by all island recidents.. I still dont like you stuck, but Im willing to have peace because of tired of the fighting and I dont want the people of Tiburòn to suffer. With this new sugestion; I will give away 3 tiles. 1 to the greedy stuck as he asked for and two to strider for beeing a good guy and supporting me. The new land I have lined out for me is on striders land, but I hope he will accsept it because I gave him tiles.. :D

I dont see why this shoudnt satisyfy The greedy stuck, the great Zarn, The great Strider and the glorius elves... If accespted my people will leave to their new homes by boat at once when the suggestion is accsepted...

I guess your plan is ok, Sir John, but I have one change to make. I am formally ceding the hills and coast that connects to Sir John's territory an giving to the government. After all, they OD have to have a port. (AND it gets rid of an unwanted neighbor)

Thats a good idea, but why am I such an unwanted neighbour. If you see on the map the zarn first put up over borders I actually never attacked you... (It was dark when I paratrooped and it obviously wanst elves I fought anyway..)

Originally posted by Noldodan
Ahhh, I THINK I see grasslands on the map that Chieftess made, but I could be wrong, I suppose...
Chieftess was showing the eventual terrain, as she noted when she posted the maps.
"A few months after the island has cooled off (but, still inhospitable) - hey, time travels fast when ever turn is 5 years - maps have been drawn up, along with the borders that each nation claims."

According to your post you had at least a thousand elves on a light cruiser who flew to the island on giant eagles along with infantry gear. They were expected to be supplied with artillery in 3 days supplied by the light cruiser which was at that time going to drydock to repair tsunami damage.

A scientist comes in to the offices of Sir John:

Sientist: Hello sir John, We have finished the temporary report you asked for.

John: Yes, thank you. What is the situation?

Scientist: Well, The gem resources seem to be infested with some sort of radioactivity.

John: Cant you be more spesific?

Scientist: Well, not much as this a totaly new type of radioactivity wich we have never seen before.

John: Is it daqngerous?

Scientist: Not as we know off. It seem to have positive medecinal efects on plants and people. That is propbably why the Island has become liveable so fast. They have a very special atomic structure wich we didnt think was possible. The Atoms are lined up in a peculiar way. We need to research this more.

Sir John: You may continiue futher research on this. You must find out as much as possible and then give me a detailed report.

Scientist: I will do so sir.

OOC: Shaitan, the Vanirian presence (which is fairly small, being all military with no permanent settlements) told how it is sustaining itself. We built an airfield, and are flying supplies in daily. Ever heard of the Berlin Airlift? ;) Anyways, I agree... SNAP OUT OF IT DUDES! ITS A ROCK! WHO NEEDS AN EXTRA TILE OF BARREN LAVA ROCK? I'm just here to write a few stories about modern warfare...

In order to prepare to deal with a more important threat that has arisen on the mainland in the form of a Communist uprising, Vanirian forces are being withdrawn from the island. They will not be returning. I wish the best of luck to all of you who wish to inhabit this island.

Sir John: You have returned the tiles. But, I am still debating wether or not I should punish your ignorance of the Vaniran, Cuperanian and Elven ways. This proposal is only valid if Strider agrees to it, seeing as all your tiles now inhabit what his land was. If it is agreed to, I am glad to see that you have saved yourself from being my neighbor.

That is all, for now.

However, I will begin the massing of Cupertanian troops in the Edge of my teritorry.

OCC- Your city cant be 22 nor can you draft panzers. You may only purchase units which are upgradeable.
And as for the city, its impossible. If youre going to be stupid like that, i may just have to come bomb this supposed 22 city. Ill catch the 22

OOC: Most cities in the best of in-game environments don't grow to size 22.... be realistic, mano. It makes things more fun for everybody. ;)

Stuck - Sir John won't be posting for 3 days (maybe more) since he's been banned in OT.

Gunning comes on the island with 1,000 panzers and 2,000 other units and takes the whole island without any resistance. :rolleyes:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

@CT- well... that takes all the fun from it. In 3 days, Fanatika wont exist...
Should I just attack him now?
Oh, btw, look what he wrote in the Jedi thread:
If my choiche lies between prepering for war and giving the tiles back, I will prepare for war. You stuck, should prepare for hell...
Bad Grammar and all!!
/me personally hopes AOA can pin him for trolling and such after he translates it.

I got some Vikings in the chat to translate it. :) And if anything else, it's flaming.

I have no problem with Sir John....

Also... I do agree with Sir Johns land split.... So I guess that is are new terrority.

The Evacuation - Part 1

Soon, a Rumble has been hured. The Volcano is ready to ozee its molten lava onto the island again

Grandmaster: What the, We better leave this Island now

Stuck - I agree, lets leave this Island

Sir John - Haha, I am the Victor, the Island is all mine, All mine I tell you

Sir John watches as all of the Fractions of each fighting parties beguins to leave. Sir John neglected to look behind him.

Sir John: Hehe, Foolish them people are. Now to have my reing of power set... ...Uh oh

Sir john Turns around and notices Molten Lava running on the side. Sir John decided to run twards Grandmaster

Sir SaaMs the Reedy, Sensible, Mellow along with nearly 2000 dadaists and the newly Mechinzed Cupertanian Guard all board a transport.
Reedy: and Zualli Zzzemen..
Zualli: Here
Reedy: Well, thats every last person. All Cupertanians accounted for. Well, good thing we left when we did. That island really got hit bad by that lightning bolt.
Sensible: Yep. Now look at that sissy John run.
Reedy: Woo hoo! He's fleeing!
And so, the Cupertanians returned to Penguin to do what they did best: PAARRRRRR-TAAAAAY!

As the storm clouds gather, Noldodan softly utters a prayer ot Manwë and shouts, "Everyone! This island is about to be destroyed by these storm clouds. Send out the messengers to the outposts with a message to rendezvous on the mainland ASAP. The rest of us will crowd onto the Montpelier and make for the mainland. Now, everyone, GO!"

His orders are instantly followed, and a large number of Eagles depart for the outposts in the mountains. As their message is received, the Eagles, overloaded with at least 5 Elves each struggle to reach the mainland, so tantalizingly close.

Some of them catch up to the Montpelier and land, and some make it to the mainland. But a few are lost in the storm, driven down. When Noldodan hears of this, he prays to Námo and Ilúvatar for their immortal souls. And so ended the story of Tiburón Island...

Soon the factions of the war parties began to head to the Fanatika main land. imediately Reedy heads to Bavaria labs to report what has just happened

Reedy: Dr. Conrad! Dr. Conrad Reedy bangs on the door lowdly

Dr. Conrad: What is it?

Reedy: The Island it is experiancing another Eruption again

Dr. Conrad: Do you have any witnesses to this event. If so, please send them to my office

Reedy: There are 1000 Witnesses to the event

Dr. Donrad: Ok, Ill open up the aurotorium. I knew this would happen one day

Dr. Conrad gathers his research papers on the Volcanic activity in the new island

Dr. Conrad: Gather everyone that weere in the event. I need to explain to them about my Theory on how the island has gotten there in the first place

Reedy: I will gather everyone

Dr. Conrad: Dont forget to get CivGeneral and Mara Jade.

Reedy: Where are they?

Dr. Ed comes out of his office

Dr. Ed: They are about to tie the knot in the Vanir Cathedral

Reedy: We need to tell everyone about this.

Dr. Conrad: Agree, Dr. Ed Go to McNulty's Cathedral and tell CivGeneral and Mara about this

Dr. Ed: Ok, though I would have to wait untill it is done

Dr. Ed hops into his Pick-up truck and drives to Vanir Cathedral. Dr. Conrad gets his presentations ready and Reedy gathers all the witnesses of the event. Dr. Ed arives to the Vanir Cathedral juse before mara Jade and CivGeneral hops into the Limo

Dr. Ed: CivGeneral, Mara Jade. Thank goodness I found you two. BTW how was the cerimony

Mara Jade: It was wonderfull

Dr. Ed: Thats nice, Sorry I could not cume, research and all that. Anyway. Dr. Conrad wahts you two to come to his lab right away.

Mara Jade & CivGeneral: Ok

CivGeneral: Just let me give the directions to the driver, we are having the reseption in the Pub

Dr. Ed: Quickly now, there is not much time. Dr. Conrad is about to explain how that islan has gotten there in the first place. Never mind, Ill have Dr. Conrad hold the confrence in the pub

Mara Jade: Better not make it a Dry confrence.

Originally posted by CivGeneral
Electrical Superstorm - Part 1Sir john Turns around and notices a Massive Electrical Storm ripping his Island to shreads. Soon 1000 Lightning Bolds strike Sir John (He is on the Highest point on the Island BTW). Instantly killing him. Lighting bolts strikes the Island every second per suare foot of land!.
You can't just kill off another player. Also, this would be more energy than has ever been produced since before the days of amoeba being the largest creatures on earth.

*sigh* Didn't any of you learn from the Resistence Movement in the Huntington GoldBluffCasino thread? We could have said, "special forces numbering 500,000 came and took the city!", when infact, the city wasn't retaken until a couple of turns later.

Besides, even if there WAS life on the island, there'd be extremely small clumps of grass/moss - provided they even had a chance at surviving. An island of this magnitude appearring would certainly cool the global tempretures down, causing more winterstorms and dust to travel through.

When the Hoover Dam was built, had they poored the concrete in one felled swoop, and not section by section, it would still be cooling. Concrete has a heating effect when it cools. It would have taken 50-75 years for it to cool off, and that would be just one slice of the mountain. It would take a few centuries at the very least for a huge island like that to cool off - maybe even several thousand years. Now, had we had this storyline back at the start of the game, it might be feasible.

I'll tell you what. If we get a cold, icy world next game, start this thread, but you can't even BEGIN to use the island under 3 conditions:

1 - The area's been explored in the game
2 - You can get there by the correct naval tech
3 - It's been a couple thousand years so that it can cool off and actually start to have vegetation.


Also, you can't just "take over" the island in 1 post. I was wondering why the English and Chinese weren't on the map anymore. Sure the English are defeated, but, that could have been their last stronghold. (provided they were in special crafts and houses...). How would you make food? Aquatic Farming? Do we even have a required 'tech' for that? Even if we HAD Aquatic Farming, do you think anything's living within a hundred miles of the island? Probably not. Earthquakes, lava flows into the ocean, etc. kills off coral reefs, which disrupts the eco-system. :ack: I'm starting to sound like my 9th grade science teacher! :D

Originally posted by Shaitan
You can't just kill off another player. Also, this would be more energy than has ever been produced since before the days of amoeba being the largest creatures on earth.

OOC: I have changed my two posts (I also have cought Stuck and had him change it a bit, I need to catch Noldodan so he can change his part). Sorry about the unusual twist im my story, It will never happen again :(.

I don't need to actually change my part, as similar damage can be wrought on eagles by ANY storm.

I think we should start this thing over. There's several things wrong here.

1 - What happened to China and England so quickly?
2 - They CLAIM parts of the island, but it's still not right for living conditions.
3 - It's only been 50 years. The ground is still hot, and lava could still be flowing. Most new islands and volcanos are only a couple of miles wide, not 60x70 miles wide. That's like all of Central Maryland.
4 - What about pyroplastic (is that the right term?) flows and lava? Hot gases?
5 - The island is barren. Granted, it could have 'coughed up' chunks of gems on the edges, but they would be buried. How would you get to them? The rocks are still hot, not to mention probably 'crusty'. Even if they were hardened, they might only be 10-20 feet thick.
6 - How are you even going to place units on the island? You need planes. We have planes, BUT, they're "WWI-WWII style" - crude and can only travel short distances.
7 - An island of this magnitude can greatly affect the weather. A volcano erupting in a 10x10 mile area can lower tempretures by 3 degrees (not sure if they meant farenheit or celsius). Remember what happened that one year when such an event occured? A 60x70 mile volcano erupting (remember, this was AT ONCE) would be MANY times greater. Perhaps 42 times greater than 1 tile. The entire WORLD would be an ice world. Why? All of that dust, smoke, debris, and derbis would fall on the surrounding land, constantly, making airial and naval excursions nearly impossible, not to mention destroying vegetation, and blocking out sunlight. That would be an over 120 degree drop. Even that would mean just below freezing tempretures at the equator - at the highest. If this volcano did explode, it would have to be gradual, and not all at once.

Originally posted by Chieftess
7 - An island of this magnitude can greatly affect the weather. A volcano erupting in a 10x10 mile area can lower tempretures by 3 degrees (not sure if they meant farenheit or celsius). Remember what happened that one year when such an event occured? A 60x70 mile volcano erupting (remember, this was AT ONCE) would be MANY times greater. Perhaps 42 times greater than 1 tile. The entire WORLD would be an ice world. Why? All of that dust, smoke, debris, and derbis would fall on the surrounding land, constantly, making airial and naval excursions nearly impossible, not to mention destroying vegetation, and blocking out sunlight. That would be an over 120 degree drop. Even that would mean just below freezing tempretures at the equator - at the highest. If this volcano did explode, it would have to be gradual, and not all at once.

You're the one who ok'd the island's creation and posted it's dimensions, so you tell us why we're not an ice world. But I do agree with your other points, a good example being my greed to take over the island...

Right, that's the only thing I posted. The island's dimensions. I was hoping everyone would realize the effects that a volcano of that magnitude would have erupting at once. Oh, there's another thing I didn't mention.

Tsunamis. The inland sea would be so disturbed, that any cities and towns would be subject to waves of well over 100 feet, maybe a few thousand. There would be major inland flooding a few times over. The sea is barely closed off, so cities like Bavaria, Toyama, Paalsville, etc. would still feel the effects (maybe not as strongly, but would still see huge waves at the least).

Not to mention boilding rain falling down on cities...

Due since this story has taken a compleate unrealistic aproach. I have decided to create a freshly new Volcano Thread

Edit: Link to the compleately Redone Volcano Story http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50427

Originally posted by Chieftess
6 - How are you even going to place units on the island? You need planes. We have planes, BUT, they're "WWI-WWII style" - crude and can only travel short distances.

Wrong. I agree with much of everything else, but consdier this. It is one tech to Rocketry (or do we have it?) meaning we can build jets. That puts our aircraft development level AT LEAST at the level of the Korean War (even later, judging that the Civ3 Jet Fighter is a Cold War MiG or SU.) Also, consider that by the end of WWII the Germans had designed (but not built) bombers capable of striking New York, and the Americans had built the B-29 which could fly all over the Pacific (which island did we nuke Japan from? It was either Guam, Bikini, or Tinian I think....) Therefore, our range is not nearly as restricted as you think. Considering that the Civ3 Bomber does not change at all from its development until the end of the game (doesn't upgrade to Stealth) we could very well consider it as anything from a B-17 to a B-52 (anything from the B-29 on, which would be bombers like the B-32 Peacekeeper flying wing and B-52 Strat gives us immense range.) Your points are valid, but you are very mistaken regarding our air power capabilities. And regarding the growing of food, we didn't. If you read the posts of myself and Shaitan, we were flying it in daily.

For ONE TURN! That's not even enough to begin to build an entire fleet! In Civ3 turns, you'd need another 5 years to even have a few. I was also talking about BEFORE we got Rocketry. Besides, rocketry isn't Advanced Flight and Stealth.

?? Wait, I'm confused.... one tunr for what? Building aircraft? We've had flight for some time now, I thought.... besides, I don't think the RPG runs in terms of in-game time (maybe it does.... I don't think we have a rule regarding that.) And what does Advanced Flight and Stealth have to do with anything? I never mentioned paratroops, helicopters, or stealth aircraft.... just fighters, bombers, and cargo planes (nobody is jumping out of them.) If I read your post wrong, could you please clear it up for me?

The whole thread has come out of hands... It wasnt as fun anymore when CT came with her facts :P

Its a game.... A little unrealistic stuff can happen right?? Dont be so picky...

BTW: the electric storm was well unrealsitic.... And you have to get the hold of yourself stuck and stop killing people...

A little unrealisitic?
A vocano erupting
A soccer team taking over
Electrical superstorms would be a part of this. read the doomsday plot ya van schviager!
and im not killing anyone, only you!
Sir SaaM the Reedy draws out the Cupertanian Guard
Reedy: ATTACK!!!!

I just have one things to say to you stuck: :p

Its endgame. Treates mean nill. I have lost my empire to your volcano.
Quid facis, Sir John? Quid cogitas? Sentimus magna vitiae insideasque tuas! O tempora! O mores! Vanir haec intelegit, Cupertania videt. Hic tamen vivit!! VIVIT?!?!?!
Now your character dies.
With anger in his eyes, Sir SaaM the Survivalist picks up a bayonet
Survivalist: Its a good day to die....
PS- If you want a translation, read the works of the great Roman orator Cicero.
At shai/eyrei: If you dont know what it means, PM me. Ill be glad to translate (but, seeing your background in literature, odds are you've come across Cicero's Catilina speeches)

No offence but I think you are going looney.. :P
You are talking kind of wierd. I doubt you will be able to duel me..
Then I win..

Is it my fault I speak Latin, nobelest of all languages?
Besides, youre already dead. I killed you and revealed that the RPG is a Matrix. Like always, youre too late

Just let it go, Sir John. It's the end of the game, so it's not worth the trouble. Penquins are stubborn people. :p Right, Stuck?

@Zarn: Its not the Penguin thats stuborn, its the Oboist that is (really! Oboe players are extreemly stubborn/crazy people, but it could be from all air pressure inside our heads)
However, look for my new house to be sworn enemy of your house. Besides, I have some political pull in the game. He has none

SAAM, making threats against a house that doesn't even exist yet goes a bit over the line of spoilt play. And I hope that you are not seriously threatening another player to use any sort of political authority against him. That would upset me and make me bring out the green text.

No!! Not the green!!
The house bit, yes
The politcal bit is in respondance to the oboist bit.
And besides, sworn enemy houses make it fun. Think of SMAC:X. The two aliens (forget their names right now) made gameplay more interesting.