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whoa whoa whoa what's going on?

edit: just talked to croxis a bit: seems he's warming them up to us with small talk and such ;) maybe we don't need to be alone with CDG?

Then again, we won't know until he posts the log now will we?

Session Start (AIM - croxis:whitebndit): Sun Apr 27 23:30:23 2003
[23:30:23] whitebndit: hey there
[23:30:27] croxis: hey
[23:30:29] whitebndit: I'm from Apolyton
[23:30:31] whitebndit: we have contact
[23:30:32] croxis: ok
[23:30:34] croxis: YAY!
[23:30:45] croxis: Why am I always the first one contacted?
[23:30:47] croxis: ;-)
[23:30:49] whitebndit: haha
[23:30:56] whitebndit: you're the only one online at the moment!
[23:31:02] croxis: true
[23:31:07] croxis: the joys of being in college
[23:31:25] whitebndit: right on brother! i have class tomorrow and am up civing :-/
[23:31:30] croxis: you pass the save to us correct?
[23:31:32] croxis: lol
[23:31:34] croxis: yup
[23:31:36] whitebndit: yeah
[23:31:41] whitebndit: who should we get in contact with?
[23:31:42] croxis: I'm doing hw that is due, oh in 8 hours lol
[23:31:58] whitebndit: haha oh man
[23:32:04] croxis: I will pass on the information to our FA
[23:32:16] whitebndit: awesome!
[23:32:22] whitebndit: it's great to finally be able to contact you guys
[23:32:36] whitebndit: we hope to setup a chat between our two sites sometime
[23:32:41] croxis: We plan on it
[23:32:50] whitebndit: err sometime should = soon
[23:32:53] whitebndit: brain fart there ;)
[23:32:54] croxis: I know
[23:32:57] croxis: oh I have those
[23:33:07] croxis: even my hair is starting to turn blonde
[23:33:16] whitebndit: haha
[23:33:26] whitebndit: i'm at a total disadvantage, i'm dirty blonde
[23:33:27] whitebndit: :(
[23:33:29] croxis: hehe
[23:33:39] whitebndit: let me give you our contact info real quick so your FA knows who to contact on our side
[23:33:42] croxis: that means we can tell dirty blonde jokes
[23:33:48] croxis: ok
[23:34:15] croxis: I don't have our FA info, I'm not even sure who it is at the moment
[23:34:21] croxis: but ti will be taken care of no worries
[23:34:39] whitebndit: (Link: mailto:Tom_Ogas@yahoo.com)Tom_Ogas@yahoo.com and you can also PM him at Togas on 'Poly
[23:34:43] whitebndit: awesome!
[23:34:47] whitebndit: yeah we are playing the turn right now
[23:34:50] croxis: ok
[23:34:54] whitebndit: and nye was like "WHOA! FOUND CFC!!!"
[23:35:01] croxis: and for your information my IRC pager is (croxis)
[23:35:09] whitebndit: ok!
[23:35:14] whitebndit: i'm usually always on AIM
[23:35:19] croxis: and my computer makes noises and I run to it
[23:35:25] whitebndit: 6364668 on ICQ too if anyone does that
[23:35:26] whitebndit: ok
[23:35:32] *** whitebndit signed on at Sun Apr 27 23:35:32 2003.
[23:35:37] croxis: I have ICQ
[23:35:45] whitebndit: yeah, wb or whitebandit works for my pager ;)
[23:35:51] croxis: ok
[23:36:14] croxis: I have trillian so I have a bit of everything
[23:36:29] whitebndit: is anyone of proper authority up right now? i guess my guys are really anxious to setup a chat and get dialog going hehe
[23:36:45] whitebndit: it's freaking 11:40PM PST OVER HERE. but i guess the job of us geeks never ends ;)
[23:36:47] croxis: no I am the only one of any authority
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[23:37:20] croxis: I'm the only one up at this hour
[23:37:32] croxis: and I have no offical position, yet, so I can't say anything :-/
[23:37:53] whitebndit: aww, hehe
[23:37:58] whitebndit: yeah i understand that
[23:38:06] whitebndit: it's good that we have contact though and someone can pass it on
[23:38:14] croxis: I do however you request you keep our contact secrit from any other civ you have contacted so far
[23:38:35] whitebndit: sure thing... likewise for you as well :-D
[23:38:40] croxis: but of cource ;-)
[23:38:46] whitebndit: i think it would actually benefit us both if we did that, hehe
[23:39:00] croxis: we need to have our meetings, as I am sure you will too
[23:39:10] whitebndit: definitely
[23:39:30] croxis: as we plot to take over.. I mean ;-)
[23:39:50] whitebndit: haha, i'm sure we all have our own plans =-O
[23:39:55] croxis: lol
[23:39:57] croxis: I'm kidding
[23:40:06] croxis: I hope we get along very well for quite some time
[23:40:10] whitebndit: oh definitely!
[23:40:14] whitebndit: i do too
[23:40:26] croxis: I mean, I am from poly myself ;-)
[23:40:28] whitebndit: i do want to acknowledge that we both have contact with CDG
[23:40:34] whitebndit: their warrior is blocking the way to you guys
[23:40:41] whitebndit: but we saw you on the other side somehow
[23:40:46] croxis: I am going to refrain form comment
[23:40:46] whitebndit: but we'll keep quite
[23:41:00] croxis: cuz I don't want to get my rear kicked!
[23:41:05] whitebndit: haha
[23:41:06] whitebndit: i understand!
[23:41:27] croxis: Do you mind if I post the log of this conversation?
[23:41:31] croxis: on our forums?
[23:41:33] whitebndit: i imagine you'll send this log on, which is fine with me :) i just want to say we won't tell CDG if you guys don't! at least for as long as possible
[23:41:35] whitebndit: go for it!
[23:41:59] croxis: I am sure we will let you know what our plans are
[23:42:26] whitebndit: cool! let your side know we look really forward to working with you guys
[23:42:42] whitebndit: btw, our council NYE says he thinks Octavian might be on, do you know if he can be reached?
[23:42:45] croxis: Tell everyone over there hello for me
[23:42:58] croxis: he is in bed
[23:43:00] whitebndit: of course!
[23:43:09] whitebndit: oh man, i guess he isn't a hardcore college student
[23:43:10] croxis: he waited for you guys to send the save, but it didn't happen soon enough
[23:43:13] croxis: lol
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[23:48:25] whitebndit: i'm kinda just a throw around guy in our FAM... they just kind throw me where they need me ;)
[23:48:32] croxis: hehe
[23:48:34] whitebndit: mainly assistant ambassador though
[23:48:39] croxis: thast cool
[23:48:50] whitebndit: our server was out for the last week
[23:48:54] croxis: I heard
[23:48:56] whitebndit: that was kinda a crappy deal
[23:49:01] whitebndit: looks like things are getting back to normal
[23:49:14] whitebndit: though our IRC server is still out, so a lot of us are holed up over at Dalnet
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[00:02:35] whitebndit: what'd you run for?
[00:02:41] whitebndit: (if i may ask?)
[00:02:44] croxis: no cuz then I'll jinks it
[00:02:57] whitebndit: oh, haha
[00:03:56] croxis: I seem to have bad luck with everything hehe
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[00:28:03] whitebndit: but yeah, i am going to call it a night
[00:28:08] whitebndit: nice meeting you david! :-D
[00:28:17] whitebndit: i look forward to cooperation between our two nations!
[00:28:18] croxis: nice meeting you too dave!
[00:28:22] croxis: yuppers
[00:29:21] whitebndit: alright, have a goodnight!
[00:29:26] croxis: you too
[00:29:29] croxis: sleep well
[00:29:36] whitebndit: you too!
[00:29:39] croxis: don't let the barbarians bite ;-)
[00:29:43] whitebndit: haha
[00:29:45] whitebndit: or CDG!
[00:29:46] whitebndit: =-O
[00:29:52] croxis: oh?
[00:30:02] whitebndit: well they have that warrior blocking you guys :P
[00:30:08] whitebndit: hehe
[00:30:08] croxis: hmmm
[00:30:26] croxis: yah
[00:30:35] croxis: well I wish you good night!
[00:30:43] whitebndit: yup! bye
[00:30:45] croxis: nwo go away I'm trying to do homework =Þ
[00:31:09] croxis: night!

I may be reading too much into this but near the end

"[00:29:39] croxis: don't let the barbarians bite ;-)
[00:29:43] whitebndit: haha
[00:29:45] whitebndit: or CDG!
[00:29:46] whitebndit: =-O"

That kinda bothers me.

uh, wow! talk about small talk ;)

so civ related, I got: We am cool and we are gonna be cool with one another, yo. Anything else?

edit: and that they don't like CDG :( this makes a triple alliance hard.

edited

I've got a feeling that they think that CDG is hostile towards us because they are blocking our path. Nothing suspicious, at least I hope so.

This is indeed exciting news, but it may be premature. We need to get the save to be sure.

Also, I'm assuming that the time stamps in your log are PST (aka GMT-7)?

PDT is -8

I think 40J is correct, croxis, well, kinda.

PDT is GMT-7 and PST is GMT-8

at the moment... I believe it is GMT-7 as EST is currently GMT-4, courtesy of Daylight Savings Time.

Of course, after looking at your previous post more carefully, I think this boils down to a good ol' fashioned abbreviation issue. Nonetheless, if I'm not mistaken, you're currently GMT-7, correct?

[00:29:39] croxis: don't let the barbarians bite ;-)
[00:29:43] whitebndit: haha
[00:29:45] whitebndit: or CDG!
[00:29:46] whitebndit: =-O
[00:29:52] croxis: oh?
[00:30:02] whitebndit: well they have that warrior blocking you guys :P
[00:30:08] whitebndit: hehe

They could also have gotten a clue that we and CDG is not in any big conflict, since then croxis would have known what whitebndit was refering to. Though that may only be my paranoia...

darn it, I said too much!

I doubt that any credible data with respect to our relationship with CDG could be gleemed from that comment. I wouldn't worry about that.

Does this mean we have another potential ally. It would be great if we can make Poly less agressive towards ELucidia and make them too against GCA. A three against one would surely bring peace in this continent after GCA is out of it. Hehehehehehe

That depends. It looks like CDG has caused trouble.

Originally posted by croxis
That depends. It looks like CDG has caused trouble.

It does? Huh?

Personally, I'd be happiest if all three were fighting amongst themselves.

Now... here's the log (http://140.211.122.84/cfc_msdg/chatlogs/apolyton_28apr2003.zip) of our chat with Poly earlier today.

Darn school. I wish I could have been there.

Originally posted by croxis
darn it, I said too much!

As FortyJ said, they would at best only get a tiny hint which could mean a lot, or most likely, they will just overlook it. Don't know how you feel about it, but just to be on the safe side, I would like to add that I probably would have said the same thing.

And if we want CDG to be in doubt if we have met poly, I suggest we walk around close to the chokepoint for some more turns.

There is always ways to make someone our ally (gifts, amount of gold... anything). It can work. We can be generouse and give someone gifts just to ally with someone else of a 3v1 WAR.

Would this mean, More Frequent visits from Trip`? ;).