Welcome!
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You say "Mid 1600s or higher". How much higher? And is your 1600 USCF or ELO?

I haven't played publicly for over 10 years, so I don't have a current rating. When I was at my best in the 80s, my rating was about BCF 150 = 1800 ELO = 1900 USCF.

Let me know if that's too high for you. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

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I have only one rating, it's USCF and it is 1592, but I would love to play you stormerne.

For your information, ELO = USCF - 100, and BCF = (ELO - 600)/8.
Thus your 1592 USCF is 1492 ELO or 112 BCF.

Enough of that. I am pleased to play you.

1. e4 c5
2. ...

Thanx for the Info - Now I know.
Silician D eh?...this is my speciality...
NeelaX and I study it regularly.
1. e4 c5
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Good! I used to play the Sicilian most of the time when I played for town and county.

NeelaX plays too? Is she rated? And what have your studies told you about this variation then?

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. ...

Well I started out with Friz 4 and DL'ed all of Bobby Fisher's Games...I studied them heavely. And Neela and I really play the hell out of it.
1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3

I know most of the opening varrations, and I have a strong middle game with it.
My 1592 is a result of my end game ;(

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My favorite variation is..you guessed it...the same as BF's..the Najdorf...
I am most experienced with this varriation

1 e4 c5
2 Nf3 d6
3 d4 cxd4
4 Nxd4 Nf6
5 Nc3 a6
6 Bg5 e6

Our varriation...commonly know as the 0'Kelly Variation thus far... Is not even in my MCO-13, the only reason I even know about it is because of Chess-Life
It should be a interesting game from here.

I also bought IM Jeremy Silman's new book "The Amateur's Mind - Turning chess misconceptions into chess Mastery"
I've worked my way through the first 3 chapters twice now, and it has raised my level of play substantially, I would say around 125 points USCF.
I haven't gotten to another tourney lately though, although Neela is so much looking forward to going to her first.

I would personally rate her around 1250 - but she has grown by leaps and bounds since finished the old tactics book I had bought in high school.

PS, I told Neela I was speaking of her and that she should post here, I think she may play a game, so watch her, I will be too, I hope she does well. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif
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[This message has been edited by Johan511 (edited July 05, 2001).]

Yes this is the O'Kelly variation. Not in your book of openings? Not surprising: it was never very fashionable. But this was the ideal reason for my playing it so often in matches, because people would have to think on their feet - they wouldn't have seen it in books.

The point of the variation is that if White plays "normally", Black gets a good game. To stand any chance of winning, White has to play "abnormally".

In the 80s, the best abnormal move was 3.c4 though this lacked a bit of dynamism. I once played this variation against International Grandmaster James Plaskett and he responded 3.c4. Because I'd found the "correct" response (3...Nc6) led to a rather rigid positions for Black, I had formed my own strategy based on 3...e6, and played this against him. It surprised him, and he spent longer on his 4th move than on any other in the whole game! Apparently it was a new concept. I have the slight pleasure of knowing that this transposition from the O'Kelly to the Kan variation became a standard.

Your choice of 3.c3 is another good "abnormal" move. There are several replies I could make, including a rather fashionable one by Basman. But I'll just stick to what worked well for me in the past.

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. ...

Tournaments are certainly good for giving your play a boost. I remember in the 70s I used to play my boss every lunchtime at work and scored about 50% against him. One weekend I went to a tournament and thereafter I beat him ever time!

It was also good playing league games for a club. Too bad you don't have a working one locally.

I stopped playing - and therefore I stopped improving - when I stopped enjoying it. I used to play for a county 'A' team. We'd spend Saturday travelling half way across the country, spend 4 hours in intense concentration at 20 boards, then travel all the way back. After which I'd spent all day and maybe only drawn. I lost motivation!

Chess can get boring if you let it, but that goes for just about anything. I find that playing face to face with someone very interesting -- I enjoy the meditation of the game -- and oft I can “feed” from the energy of my opponent so to speak – LOL, I love to get into that “Zone” of play.

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5….

About the clubs, we'll only be in this town for another 18 months or so, And where ever we go from here -- There is sure to be a better chess following. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Well chess was never got boring for me. But this was midway through my previous marriage and any correspondence of goals between me and my then-wife had long vanished. The stress of playing chess matches just wasn't worth it, and once you reach a certain level you're "expected" to play competitively at that level.

That was all a long time ago. My marriage to Arlea is quite different and we have written our mutual support into our wedding vows. (http://www.anglo-saxon.demon.co.uk/wedding/vows.html)

On with the game...

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. ...

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4....

And so it continues...

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Tartakover was playing this 80 years ago http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif

That's right Smash! When I first learnt this, it was still called the Tartakover-O'Kelly variation. I think it's a pity that his contribution is largely forgotten nowadays. I think it may have still been called that up to MCO 10, perhaps even 11.

Johan, I've never read Chess-Life. I'd be interested to hear what it said about all this. Is it worth my trying to order a back-issue, and if so which issue number was it in?

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. ...

stormerne the issue I had of Chess Life that mentioned The O'Kelly Variation was dated back in 1992, of that I am sure. Unfortunately all of the issues I had back then have been destroyed. ;(
On a wild tangent, before moving I disposed of all the magazines in my possession, I do regret it, but it sure felt right at the time…LOL
1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5....



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On magazine disposal: if you don't take risks you never grow.

On our game: well you've just given me the first surprise of the game. Though it was one obvious choice, I had not expected you would play the move you did. I'm taking the liberty of playing your next move for you. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. ...

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4....

I considered all the basics, but my heart tells me that the c5 pawn would destroy my position later in the game, Although your e-pawn will dominate the center there was really no other choice but to give up my castle to save my position. On my other insights I will save awhile http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Oooo.. you're being all mysterious.
And you're holding on to your pawn.
How exciting! http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. ...

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2....

I have retired Johan511's username, I'll be playing under this name from now on.

Fine about the name. But tell me... how would you like to be addressed and referred to in future? Johan was easy. The full three words every time is kinda clumsy. Single words are easiest colloquially. Or perhaps initials. Your choice.

And on with the game. No suprises. Castling.

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. ...

TGD is fine, this is going to turn into a very safe game, but hey I'm the underdog http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3.....


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Safe for whom I wonder... http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. ...

Tell me about your new name.
Has it something to do with chlorophyll?

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2....

Well beyond what I put in off topic on the "What does your name mean" thread -- There is a certain plant that I plan to breed over the next 40 years -- With the help of hundreds of other people from around the world the resulting strain strain that arrives will be called The Green Destiny. So I guess in Fact it does have something to do with chlorophyll. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/lol.gif

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OK. I'm closer to understanding your motives.
And in our game, just a simple pawn push...

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. ...

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3....
Attack - Parry - Attack - Parry
Oh how I love this game http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif

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It's part of the fun of it.

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. ...

(I expect you know, but just in case... in this instance ab is shorthand for axb4.)

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb...


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More of the same!

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 a6
3. c3 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. d4 Nf6
6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. ...

6. dxc5 Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1....



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6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1....

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A picture for our fabulous audience. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif
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Who is this fabulous audience?
Step forward! Don't be shy. Identify yourselves!

6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. ...

I'm not sure who they are either, but I bet someone out there is taking a peek at our game http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5....




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6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. ...

Hmmm... when I first analysed this position and line 5 moves ago, I think I must have underestimated the strength of your move b5. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/eek.gif Looks like it might all get more chaotic than I'd originally planned http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/crazyeyes.gif ...

6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. ...

Well then just allow me to protect that gem of a pawn c5. The pace of the game seems to be changing in my favor bro, Don't allow me to much tempo because I'm not afriad to utilize it. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif

6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4....

Ebb and flow. Tides. Swash and backwash.
It's the last wave that counts!

6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. ...

And now you will face the wrath of my veteran pawns!
6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6...

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I know. I'm expecting them.
And I know where they're going.
Come to Uncle Stormerne... http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif

6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. ...

(Last move of the day)

6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6...

6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. ...

6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7....

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6. ... Qxd1+
7. Kxd1 e6
8. b4 Be7
9. Nbd2 0-0
10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. ...

10. Bd3 Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4...

10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. ...

10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7...

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10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. ...

10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. ...

10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3...

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10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2...

You've got some awsome moves there, but I'm ready to mix it up... http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

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A worthy response! http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif
10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. ...
I guess this won't be a miniature then! http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5...
The involvements of such a wonderful game take me elsewhere, and this is when I loose.
A death perhaps, but I would say it’s more of a lose of concentration? How could U not?
Do you know what the word Nemesis means?


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Yes I know of Nemesis (with a capital N): apparently a goddess of the Greek pantheon, though one I've never met. Allegedly she is a goddess of vengeance and retribution though, like all other deities, she probably does a whole load of other things too (and other deities probably fare well in the vengeance and retribution department too!).

Anyway... to the game. You must put your concentration were it belongs. It is rare that a chess game should take priority in one's life, and you have many other things to preoccupy you at the moment.

I have hesitated over this move for a day. There are two choices for me, and they are not quite equivalent. I'd like to play one, but my intuition warns me to play the other. So, as ever, I will follow my intuition.

10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. ...

Edit: I suppose I should add that if you play the mostly likely response of 26. Rxb5, then I will play 26... Nf5.


[This message has been edited by stormerne (edited July 26, 2001).]

10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2...

Thx for the Deity Info - I saw your page on the Runes, and found it very interesting - How did you happen upon all of that knowledge?




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10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. ...

Which page on Runes did you see: this one (http://www.anglo-saxon.demon.co.uk/Skvala/runeprim.html) or this one (http://www.anglo-saxon.demon.co.uk/Skvala/healing.html) ?

I've been studying runes for over 20 years so it would be a long story. In summary, I first became interested in runes because from 1973 onwards I've studied divination, starting with the I Ching. However some time after I came across them, I realised that runes were not just a tool for divination as most modern people think. I researched their historical uses from primary sources and studied the culture, values and religion of their originators. Later I did my own practical research and found that they were also "keys" that could be used to unlock vast energies. I also realised that, though there are very many modern books on runes, nearly all of them should be thrown away! So I wrote an introductory booklet and later set up an online rune study group.

(edit: remove rune study group link)


[This message has been edited by stormerne (edited August 30, 2001).]

Originally posted by stormerne:
Who is this fabulous audience?
Step forward! Don't be shy. Identify yourselves!


Me!
can you Include another pic for your fabulous audience (namley me<IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/lol.gif" border=0>) Green Destiny?
Just because your paranoid don't mean Im not out to get you! <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0>

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<IMG SRC="http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif" border=0>"Why Create things when you know they must be destroyed!"
"I will Create A monument to nothingness!"


[This message has been edited by Kefka (edited August 03, 2001).]

And Me!
In fact me and Kefka there have 20 bucks riding on your game!


GO STORMERNE!!!!!!!


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I am cube
I am Vanilla
We are VanillaCube!

10. ... Rd8
11. Kc2 a5
12. a3 ab
13. cb Ng4
14. Rf1 Bf6
15. Rb1 Bd7
16. b5 Be7
17. Ne4 Rc8
18. c6 bc
19. b6 Rd8
20. b7 Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6....

Sorry it took so long, I was in the moving process - from apartment life to a house, Finally.
I'm glad to see the audience finally came around.=)
BTW. I saw the second page, and I'm going to get into the runes more and as go through life, The sage in me keeps gathering at the surface of my ego, I just have to step carefully.

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First of all "Hello audience!" Great to see you guys taking an interest. I for one am flattered by your attention. And thanks for your encouragement VC. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif If you take a look forward a few moves in this game, you'll see it still has lots of complicated possibilities. So my best guess so far is that it'll be a long game, even before anyone has a marked advantage. You may be waiting a few weeks to collect your prize! And I've included a game position after my move below...
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TGD: No problem about moving. Continue as and when you can. I've just come back from four days camping in the New Forest. And interesting that you found the second page. The first one has links to it from all over the web, but the second one requires a more diligent search to find it.

20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. ...

20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. Bxb8...

There's no way I can let you rest and recuperate ... So I'm going to keep forcing the pressure, and try to gain a little more space. My chess mentor says -- Take the space your opponent leaves behind.
One of my favorite chess sayings is from the Wizard of Riga, he said, There are two types of sacrifices: correct ones and mine."

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[This message has been edited by The Green Destiny (edited August 08, 2001).]

Your move surprises me. If (from the above diagram) you had played what I believe was your strongest move 29. Nc4, I would have replied 29...Nd7!? which leads to a fascinating unbalanced endgame of my 2 Rooks + Knight + 5 pawns against your Rook + 2 Knights + Bishop + 4 pawns.

I had prepared all that after you played your 25th move. But now it is lost forever and will live on only in this note. Paradoxically, far from resting or recuperating, I was about to spice things up, and it is <u>your</u> move that relaxes the pressure for me!

20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. Bxb8 Nxb8
30. ...

Green I think you just lost the game there!
but mabey there is some plan here http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

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I am cube
I am Vanilla
We are VanillaCube!

20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. Bxb8 Nxb8
30. Nc4...

Now here comes the knight <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0>
If you play Nd7 now I will play Rb3

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[This message has been edited by The Green Destiny (edited August 09, 2001).]

Originally posted by vanillacube:
Green I think you just lost the game there!
but mabey there is some plan here <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0>


Because of that the bet is now up to 50 http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif



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<IMG SRC="http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif" border=0>"Why Create things when you know they must be destroyed!"
"I will Create A monument to nothingness!"
good smilies at http://www.plauder-smilies.de/

To our audience: Hey guys, give Green a break! I tell you, he's still playing really well. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/goodwork.gif Don't underestimate him: I'm certainly not doing. For example, my 23rd move was a really good one and perhaps worthy of a '!' after it, but his reply was also good and also worthy of a '!'. So I reckon things are still finely balanced and it's certainly too early to tell the result of this game, especially as we're both still trying to win rather than draw. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif

On with the game. I'll take your continuation and fill the vacated square with a rook...
20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. Bxb8 Nxb8
30. Nc4 Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. ...

20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. Bxb8 Nxb8
30. Nc4 Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6...

Yeah this one is very close, The bet may be 100 before it's over.. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/lol.gif
Chess really isn't a good game to bet on though guys.... It's said to be a Royal Game and much too prestigious to rest in the arms of gambling. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif




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With that "hey guys give us a break" don't put me in the same boat as that jackass!
I was trying to tell him that his post was just RUDE!
If he posts like that again I will give him a swirlly!
I am much bigger than him http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

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<IMG SRC="http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif" border=0>"Why Create things when you know they must be destroyed!"
"I will Create A monument to nothingness!"
good smilies at http://www.plauder-smilies.de/

I'll show my support for Johan/Green whatever his name is..hehe

GO BABY GO
He is an awesome man, who kicks my ass in chess constantly. . .I seem to only be able to kill his king when he's drank too much ale. Remind me to slip something in his drink more often! http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

Thx Babe, for you support.
I do love to play you while consuming our wonderful Ale!!!
Make the games interesting.....
Now back to business....You move Sir?

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Originally posted by The Green Destiny:
Chess really isn't a good game to bet on though guys.... It's said to be a Royal Game and much too prestigious to rest in the arms of gambling. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0>

Nothing is above gambling http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif I mean even life is a gamble, In fact its the biggest gamble of all!

and you know chess used to be played with dice. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif when it origanated in India.


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<IMG SRC="http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif" border=0>"Why Create things when you know they must be destroyed!"
"I will Create A monument to nothingness!"
good smilies at http://www.plauder-smilies.de/

My apologies, I have been ill for a few days and had totally lost any continuity! So I have evaluated from scratch again and found there are many candidate moves available at the first three levels of play, many of which - though beguiling - lead eventually to nought. Thus I judge that my veteran knight must move again...

20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. Bxb8 Nxb8
30. Nc4 Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. ...

I have never bet on games of chess, though I have oft played games for a prize, even if it be for who buys the next drink! Do I take it that you, like us, brew your own Ale? Now there is a noble profession!

20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. Bxb8 Nxb8
30. Nc4 Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1...

If Nd5 then I move Rb5...

Your correct about the ale. The downside to industrialization is there's no love in the making of objects and machines. You can never receive more than u put into something. - But when one doesn't build or make things but instead delegates the task to a lifeless mechanism there is a plain difference. I.e. it could be from dinner to bottled beer, and I say this with hesitation, because I don't feel either way to be wrong, just different. In my judgment my own way seems to work more efficiently, most likely because it is what I’m accustomed too - thus I choose to make my own ale, among many other things.

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I am. That is enough. I have all the promise that each day offers to me. I am. The past is nothing but what has brought you here and the future is what you make of today. I am. We are each a force in life.

No. I do not accept your suggested continuation. That very plausible move - and who would not have automatically played it? - leads to ruin for Black in just one line, and I must assume that you would have played that line. So I will not send my knight riding into the centre. Instead my king steps towards the fray.

20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. Bxb8 Nxb8
30. Nc4 Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. ...

We too choose to make our own ale, partly because traditional British beer is too hoppy for our liking and has too little body. Perhaps we would not bother doing so if we lived in Bavaria! And we also make all our own soap, simply because we can make far better quality than we can buy, and yet it is still cheaper.

But tell me... are you a knave, prince or king of brewing? In other words, do you brew from kits, extracts or grains?

20. ... Ra7
21. Bf4 c5
22. Bc7 Re8
23. h3 Bc6
24. Nfd2 Nh6
25. Bb5 Bxb5
26. Rxb5 Nf5
27. Kb2 Nd4
28. Rb6 Ndc6
29. Bxb8 Nxb8
30. Nc4 Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2...

I get my grains from
the homebrewery. (http://www.homebrewery.com/catalog/grains.html)

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I am. That is enough. I have all the promise that each day offers to me. I am. The past is nothing but what has brought you here and the future is what you make of today. I am. We are each a force in life.

"He who says A must also say B"
-- Hansel and Gretel - Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. ...

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8...

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rb1

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. ...
Naturellement.

I'm assuming you meant Rdb1 http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. ...

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5...

LOL, Glad you caught that http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. ...

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3...



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I am. That is enough. I have all the promise that each day offers to me. I am. The past is nothing but what has brought you here and the future is what you make of today. I am. We are each a force in life.

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. ...

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. f4

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. f4 h6
40. ...

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. f4 h6
40. g3....

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. f4 h6
40. g3 f6
41. ...

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. f4 h6
40. g3 f6
41. a4...

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. f4 h6
40. g3 f6
41. a4 g5
42. ...

Edit: Add the following image for those interested...

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[This message has been edited by stormerne (edited September 04, 2001).]

30. ... Nd7
31. Rb3 Rb8
32. Ned6 Nf6
33. Rd1 Kf8
34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. f4 h6
40. g3 f6
41. a4 g5
42. fxg5....

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I am. That is enough. I have all the promise that each day offers to me. I am. The past is nothing but what has brought you here and the future is what you make of today. I am. We are each a force in life.

42. fxg5 fxg5
43. ...

You didn't think I'd play hxg5 did you? http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/lol.gif

By the power of the pawns ye shall be avenged http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif
sorry Im just rambling.
BTW: thanks for the upgraded map. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif

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<IMG SRC="http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif" border=0>"Why Create things when you know they must be destroyed!"
"I will Create A monument to nothingness!"
good smilies at http://www.plauder-smilies.de/

um....hmmmmm...position looks hairy http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/eek.gif

It's looked hairy for more than 20 moves Smash, but it's still holding quite nicely. It's what I get for being deliberately provocative and underestimating an opponent. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif

I think this is the chess game with the highest watcher count in the history of the CFCFC. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0>

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<IMG SRC="http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif" border=0>"Why Create things when you know they must be destroyed!"
"I will Create A monument to nothingness!"
good smilies at http://www.plauder-smilies.de/

[This message has been edited by Kefka (edited September 08, 2001).]

34. Kc2 Ne8<br />35. Nxe8 Kxe8<br />36. Rdb1 Bf6<br />37. Rb5 Kd7<br />38. Kd3 Bd4<br />39. f4 h6<br />40. g3 f6<br />41. a4 g5<br />42. fxg5 fxg5<br />43. hxg5

Just when you thought it would be boring....

How can you do that? <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> You don't have a pawn which can capture on g5 anymore! Your h-pawn is still on h3. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

I think he is drunk now <img src="icon12.gif" border="0"> <br />either that or you got it wrong <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

<br />BTW:have you seen this man-----> http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif he is now missing <img src="icon9.gif" border="0">

[quote]Originally posted by Kefka:<br />I think he is drunk now <img src="icon12.gif" border="0"> <br />either that or you got it wrong <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <hr></blockquote><br />See for yourself from the last diagram!<br />Anyway, from recent playing speeds, we'll only have another week to wait before he puts it right. <img src="icon12.gif" border="0">

Thats why the <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> because I belive that he got it wrong cause I have the same thing(I think? <img src="icon12.gif" border="0">

MISSING PERSON

<br />have you seen this man--------> http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif if so please find a way to place him in his rightfull spot as my Avatar!

34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. f4 h6
40. g3 f6
41. a4 g5
42. fxg5 fxg5
43. Na5....

0ops.... Maybe I was drunk that night ;) somehow I had 41. h4 written down, and that was the move I had made on here, Plz Excuse.

GRrrrr..... THis is TGD, under Neelax user, New boards got me all mixed up.

Due to recent traumatic changes of personal circumstance and the fact that now it seems to take a week or more to make a move, I have lost all continuity in this game, and with it has gone my motivation and enthusiasm. So if I seem lacking in "spark" or coherent strategy, you need look no further for an explanation.

34. Kc2 Ne8
35. Nxe8 Kxe8
36. Rdb1 Bf6
37. Rb5 Kd7
38. Kd3 Bd4
39. f4 h6
40. g3 f6
41. a4 g5
42. fxg5 fxg5
43. Na5 Ra6
44. ...

This game is now over. Smash has awarded it to me on October 27th.

After Many Many Days of Thought I Resign....
Awsome Game Stormene... ;) We will meet again i'm sure

And btw fuc u guys.....If neelax is still here then u can't be giving the game away to someone....Unless she says Johan is dead....i'm comming back...MUHAHAHA

tsk,tsk

I do the only thing fair.You're last response(under Neelax login) was Sept 20th.Thats almost 4 months ago :rolleyes: