Currently we have only one city, Noshuret, which is population 2, and will complete a settler in 8 turns.

I am concerned about food production in the area we have settled. Until we discover another form of government, I believe the maximum size our capital will grow to is 7, and even that is going to take a long while. New cities founded in this area may well have the same problem, but we still may want to consider moving the capital at some point.

Actually, I believe that the land to our SW is more fertile, as there is grassland there.

So lets get about 2 or 3 settlers as soon as possible and start popping settlers from those cities. As Noldy said, SW land looks more fertile. From our capitol after we build a barracks we can pop out many warriors good for upgrading while our outer cities build settlers.

Armisan's idea seems pretty good.

3-4 settlers SW. I have a good feeling about there. Also: If there is a costal city, I am creating an odd demand/request to have NeoPenguin (yes, I know, a silly Idea)

I agree with the SW area. Lets build settlers and grow.

If we irrigate the plains wouldn't our capital be able to reach size 11 while still in despotism?

Yes, we can get a fairly sizeable and productive capital. It just won't get there all that quickly.

Originally posted by donsig
If we irrigate the plains wouldn't our capital be able to reach size 11 while still in despotism?

Yeah. You are right. However, it is going to take 20 turns for each point of growth once we break 6. We need to build a granary before this...

I'd like to apply to be mayor of our 2nd city, Gorina, which will be built next turn chat.

Originally posted by Chieftess
I'd like to apply to be governor of our 2nd city, Gorina, which will be built next turn chat.

You mean mayor? I would prefer someone who doesn't already have an office, since many people are jobless at the moment.

Originally posted by eyrei


Yeah. You are right. However, it is going to take 20 turns for each point of growth once we break 6. We need to build a granary before this...

We could always "Size 12(11?)" Noshuret by sending workers from our more fertile(hopefully) cities to join the capital. Doing so would ensure that Noshuret becomes a production powerhouse early on.

Of course, we must remember to have the necessary happiness items in place(temple, martial law) before doing so.

Originally posted by Donovan Zoi


We could always "Size 12(11?)" Noshuret by sending workers from our more fertile(hopefully) cities to join the capital. Doing so would ensure that Noshuret becomes a production powerhouse early on.

Of course, we must remember to have the necessary happiness items in place(temple, martial law) before doing so.

yeah, but so far it's the only city we have. :)

True, CT, definitely not an issue this term. But something to discuss now if we are thinking of a Granary. :)

I would like to apply for Mayor of Gorina. I have no other position and have plenty of experience being a Mayor. I will serve you well :) .

I too would like to offer my services as mayor of Gorina. Although the other applicants are eminently qualified, I have honed my governance skills over thousands of years ;)
Also, I do not currently hold any other position to distract me from my duties.

Might I convince one of the candidates to be mayor of the capital, Noshuret instead?

I would hope that the Almightyjosh take the Capital. He is more suited for the higher seat in government. Besides, I'm now ruler of Gorina in the RPG, I thought Mayor of the same city in the Demogame would help the flow of my game. :D

A most amicable solution, it is agreed. Thank you Cyc, eyeri.
Now, where to put my palace... ;)

Originally posted by Almightyjosh
A most amicable solution, it is agreed. Thank you Cyc, eyeri.
Now, where to put my palace... ;)

Yes, it's fitting that our most esteemed demogame governor take reigns of the capital. :D

BTW, did you know that in DG2, we got a GL when we took Thebes (one of the last cities to fall before domination - filling out the cities of Asphinxia)? We named it after you.

Well, it is settled then. Cyc will be mayor of Noshuret, and Almightyjosh the mayor of Gorina.

*Note: Chieftess may actually be a computer recording the demogames. ;)

Please Governor, I belive you have the city names reversed. I am to be the Mayor of Gorina, and Almightyjosh will be Mayor of Noshuret. Thank you for the appointment.

Originally posted by eyrei
Well, it is settled then. Cyc will be mayor of Noshuret, and Almightyjosh the mayor of Gorina.

*Note: Chieftess may actually be a computer recording the demogames. ;)

:borg: You will be assimilated. :borg:

Originally posted by eyrei
*Note: Chieftess may actually be a computer recording the demogames. ;)
Or a Lefty DL with a slightly more functional spell-checker module, given the post above http://www.gamecatcher.net/fora/images/smiles/scared.gif

Originally posted by Cyc
Please Governor, I belive you have the city names reversed. I am to be the Mayor of Gorina, and Almightyjosh will be Mayor of Noshuret. Thank you for the appointment.

Sorry about that. It was late. You are correct.

Sorry I have been so slack recently. I have had a whole lot of stuff going on in RL, and keeping up with the demogame has had to take a backseat. Everything should be resolved within the next few days.

Luckily, we have a very competent President and VP to keep things going, and I have complete faith in their decisions.

*starts stockpilling small arms and training insurgents*

Originally posted by Almightyjosh
*starts stockpilling small arms and training insurgents*

Don't think that I won't put down any insurgency with efficiency and an iron fist. History has show that those in power best display their genius when that power is threatened. ;)

*takes iron fist and buries it*
HA

Also, I have started a Noshuret thread and the Citizen's Council of Noshuret which will post proposals for development from time to time.
:)

Already planning for a comeback, huh AJ? :) We need another Provincial Golden Age.

Governor, as I have stated in The Gorina City Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=981580#post981580), I believe we should switch the Granry in Gorina to a Settler (done in 6). This will give us our fourth city quickly, then we can start on the granary Instead of waiting 23 turns to start our next Settler).

A poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53346) regarding the primary purposes for our cities has been posted. I will use this to determine build queues.

I wish to set forth a plan to determine classifications for each of our cities so that it is not necessary to poll build queues all the time.

The current classifications are:

Settler/worker factory

This category will build nothing but settlers and units to escort them. When needed it will also build workers. These should be low production/high growth cities, and in some cases may need to construct a granary before being set on their 'path'.

Metropolis

The primary purpose of these cities will be to generate income, culture and science. They may also be used to construct wonders, and in times of need, units. This category will normally contain cities with good growth potential and good production. They will also generally receive the most attention from our workers.

Citadel

The primary purpose of these cities will be to produce trained military units. A barracks will be one of the first things constructed, and then just enough other buildings to maintain order. After that, they will almost exclusively produce troops. Ideal candidates will be cities with mediocre to low growth potential but the ability to produce a good number of shields with only a small population.

Port

The purpose of these cities will be to generate trade and science income, allow foreign trade via a harbor, and produce whatever naval vessels we need. They should build a harbor relatively early on, and then focus on markets and libraries while building enough happiness improvements to maintain order. These cities will obviously be coastal, with decent production capabilities and growth. They should be optimized to have as many citizens as possible working the coastal squares, as these produce extra income.

Border town

These cities are those resting on a border with another civilization. They will normally produce several cultural buildings early on, city walls, a barracks, and then can be switched to the Settler/worker factory classification. They will serve mainly as upgrade points rather than troop production centers due to the fact that they will often experience high corruption.

Comments?

Well, I believe Gorina should be a Metropolis, but that it should first pump out 3 Settlers, eyrei. Once that is done, along with the other military untis to allow growth back to pop size 3, then it should start building the Cultural improvements that will help it grow to Metropolis size. I don't think the Granary is of high importance right now, as long as we take good care of tile improvement. (I'd also like to see us enter a Monarchy form of government soon.)

I agree with Mayor Cyc regarding his city of Gorina, eyrei.

If we switch the build queue from a Granary to a Settler and move a laborer to a river hill(1-1-1) from the unroaded grassland(2-0-1), we can get the Settler in 6 turns. By losing 1 food/pt, Gorina would be due to grow in 6 turns --- a perfect cycle. So, rather than starting the 7th turn at Size 1, Gorina would be Size 2.

I request that you strongly consider this, Mr. Governor.

I agree with the Mayor. Gorina has great potential. Culture will do it well. My one disagreement is I would like to see perhaps a Republic.

I would like to Apply for Mayor of Nar Shaddaa. I have lots of Experiance of Being a Mayor and I am in need to keep myself Occupied when the Military Department is running Slow :).

I would like to apply for Mayorship of Penguinadua. I hope to nurture it into a fair nursery of the Arts and Learning

(5 points if you guess the obvious sources of the name)

RE: Mayoral appointments

If at all possible, I would like our mayors to have no other position. Not because it is a particularly difficult job, but because I would like others to have a chance to get more involved.

@eyrei- Even if its our namesake city?

Originally posted by Stuck_As_a_Mac
@eyrei- Even if its our namesake city?

Yes, the same people who get to name cities first are exactly the ones who already have a task.;)

Still want it. And it doesnt look like anyone else does :P

May I be the Capitoline Province Chat Rep?

I would like to apply for a mayoral position please.

@Eyrei: If you want someone to be the mayor of a city that has no other position, look no further. Here I am. :D

I would be very willing to be the mayor of a city in Fanatika. So just put me upp as an appliant for any city with no mayor in :D

Originally posted by bootstoots
May I be the Capitoline Province Chat Rep?

I don't really believe in chat reps ;).


If you (or anyone else) wants to be a mayor, please apply by stating your interest and the city you wish to be mayor of.

I wish to be Mayor of no city BUT Penguinadua

As it seems you are yet to confirm a mayor of Penguinadua, I would like to apply for this position. I dont hold any elected office and I would serve the people well.

I would like to be the mayor of the fifth city, when it gets founded.

I would like to apply for the mayorship for Nar Shadda...
It would be my first time as a mayor but I will do my best..

Governor eyrei,

I realize that this is an about-face on my part, but I think we may need to consider producing a Settler out of Noshuret soon. I believe that doing so would afford us our best opportunity of grabbing the Dyes to the East.

Also, in Gorina, do you have plans to build a Temple next or a Settler(after the Granary)? Once again, I would like to see us add to our production base by founding new cities ASAP.

Egypt already has 6 cities; America and Greece have 5. We now possess the resources to equal these numbers quickly, so I humbly request that we do so.

Also, unlike the last two games, we have LOTS of room to expand. We're not trapped by civs, mountains, jungle and deserts. We have to focus on expanding. And while we do, slowly but surely upgrade our warriors to legions.

CT and DZ united on an issue. Am I dreaming? :D

OK, then....lets flood the forums until we get this rolling, Lady Vice President. I am with you(on this issue) 110%. ;) :goodjob:

I have no objection to producing one more settler from Noshuret, since we have no pressing need for a huge military, and it now has a granary.

I agree with this as well. Pump cities as fast as possible.

We should not settle as fast towards the west as there is no pint in that. We have no enemys there. We should "relive" egypt and america for so much terretory as possible, as fast as possible...

Lets build lots of settlers and expand eastward asap...

Nar Shadaa

Sir John

Penguinadua

Peri


Feel free to open a thread for your respective cities in the Government forum.

I am here to respectivly shout "Heck no!" (for lack of a better word, seeing as eyrei's a mod..) to the loss of MY city to someone other then me.
I DO plan on contesting this
@eyrei- why not an election, like the one between Dis and Oct for Morgana? (or was it Barvaria?)

@Peri- no offense, but its just that Ive been mayor of my Namecity for the last 2 games and I would think that I deserve the 3rd city as well. I mean, its not like mayors do anything.

Stuck: You egoist. Let other people have a shot at it... :)

As the proud Mayor of Gorina, I feel I must pass on to you the fine piece of work by our Minister of Worker Relations, Rik Meleet. If you have read his report on page one of the Gorina City thread, then you are aware of his recomendation of laborer allocations.

Basically, what he is suggesting is that after Gorina's growth in 1 turn, we move the laborer now on the grassland tile to the roaded hill. The newly created POP3 laborer would be placed on the plains tile now being roaded by the workers. This move would reduce the build time on the Granary by 1 turn, allowing us to start the next Settler 1 turn earlier. The laborers would only need to stay in those locations two turns to complete the Granry in this reduce time frame.They could then be placed back on the grasslands for growth. This would give us the next Settler in Gorina on turn 14 and with the Granary, growth would not be adversely effected by this plan. I support this recomendation by Rik Meleet.

I also support Noshuret being changed immediately to a Settler, as DZ has proposed. As I've stated in the Gorina thread, immediate expansion is needed. I would like to see a Temple in Gorina as soon as possible, though. The Temple would follow the Settler. This would give us a Settler in 6 (Noshuret), a Settler in 14 (Gorina), and Penguinadua can start its Settler in 15. Noshuret can follow up with another Settler after it regains its POP. I've attached a city screen for you.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/Gor1250bc.jpg

Gorina's current build queue is essentially what you propose, Cyc. After the granary, a warrior and settler pair will be built, followed by a temple and another warrior. After this, it will begin a prebuild for a wonder.

Originally posted by eyrei
[b]Nar Shadaa
Sir John

Darn, I was hoping to be the mayor of that place :(. Would it be possible for John and I to be Co-mayors :).

CG: I Can see a reason for there beiing two mayors in the smallest city in-game... :P

What you could od is taht you could move there so I would have somone to write on the citizens list :D

Culture Ministry

Greetings, Governor Eyrei. I would like to ask that you continue to include cultural improvements in our queues, I espescially thank you for putting a temple in the Gorinian queue. If you wish to discuss future cultural planning, feel free to contact my office.

Sincerely,
Cultural Minister Plexus

May I be the Inadatto mayor?

As Mayor of Gorina, I would like to recomend that we move the laborer working the unmined grassland to the roaded plains tile (with the river). This move will not only give us an extra gold coin, but also speed the completion of the Temple. This will help alleviate future problems of unhappiness. Thank you.

Cyc

Capitoline - Term 2 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54811)