View Full Version : NEW UNITS: Wolf Rider & Warg Rider


embryodead
May 04, 2003, 03:30 PM
Goblin cavalry. All icons included. Some simple sounds too, but if someone has anything better please let me know. Run animations aren't perfect but it was really difficult to make a running wolf (can't use poser WalkDesigner)

Wolf Rider:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/wolf_rider.zip

Warg Rider:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/warg_rider.zip

embryodead
May 04, 2003, 03:30 PM
wolf rider preview

embryodead
May 04, 2003, 03:31 PM
warg rider preview

black_rose
May 04, 2003, 03:40 PM
Those look great! I esp. like the warg rider. :)
It is excellent for LotR and a lot of other fantasy.

edit:

Btw, any chance of doing one without the rider? I would really like to use it as a direwolf.

Fëanor
May 04, 2003, 03:53 PM
oh yeah , :goodjob: thumbs up for these units

Raw is War?
May 04, 2003, 04:05 PM
awesome work! :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :)

mrtn
May 04, 2003, 04:08 PM
Nice. I'm gonna dance with these. :D

Klyde182
May 04, 2003, 04:15 PM
:eek: Wowho!!! the greenskins Are comming!!!! :goodjob:
Had you thought about doing Wolf/Warg chariots? Here an example...

Klyde182
May 04, 2003, 04:16 PM
And another Chariot....

Ed O'War
May 04, 2003, 04:45 PM
Great units!

Kindred72
May 04, 2003, 04:54 PM
Awsome!:goodjob:

embryodead
May 04, 2003, 05:07 PM
Klyde182, I know all of these, I played WH Battle, that's why I do WH mod :) I wanted chariots in my game, mainly for chaos, but the problem is the chariot itself. I would have to make articulate (at least the wheels) chariot prop/figure for poser and it's far beyond my abilities now.

black_rose, AFAIR sebsage did a lone wolf unit some time ago. dunno if it really works though...

Klyde182
May 04, 2003, 09:21 PM
Hey Embryo I also play the greenskins, can't argue when the Whaaag comes a calling HeH. but seriously do you think you could cut-n-past wolfs' in a chariot? If not, contact Kryten maybe he could do it for you by taking your mounts and riders & cut-n-past them....like he did
with andrew510's Turkish cav unit.....:cool:

mrtn
May 04, 2003, 10:57 PM
Kryten will have time for this, when his "to do list" is empty, i e after the Heat Death of the Universe. Don't count on it guys. Klyde182, if you want them, make 'em yourself. :) I'm learning now that cut n paste isn't that hard to do, but it takes time!

Kinboat
May 04, 2003, 11:42 PM
Great units... If you want I could make up a chariot and send it along. I've been struggling with making animations and could use a little modeling break.

embryodead
May 05, 2003, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by Kinboat
Great units... If you want I could make up a chariot and send it along. I've been struggling with making animations and could use a little modeling break.

You are great :) I got an idea how to do it without making complex prop (by making 2 separate props - chariot and wheels), but if you want that break, then I am more than happy to co-operate :)
A chariot in WH style, like on Klyde's pictures would be best. I would like to add skulls etc. later in poser.

aaglo
May 05, 2003, 12:10 AM
Heh... cool.

BTW, I thought that Varg is Wolf in Swedish. So I would like to know, what is Warg?

embryodead
May 05, 2003, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by aaglo
Heh... cool.

BTW, I thought that Varg is Wolf in Swedish. So I would like to know, what is Warg?

It's a big, evil wolf (badly represented by some sort of beast in the LotR movie) used as steed by orcs in many books, games etc, beginning from Tolkien's.
As far as I know, no name in Tolkien is random - he based everything on european myths and legends - that includes language influence. You can find many similiarites like this (usually to old english) - cities, characters, artifacts etc.

mrtn
May 05, 2003, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by aaglo
Heh... cool.

BTW, I thought that Varg is Wolf in Swedish. So I would like to know, what is Warg?

The same thing as a Volf ;) Tolkien used the same technique as the heavy metal bands; if you can't spell it, it's cooler.:D Anyone remember Mötley Crüe?

tpasmall
May 05, 2003, 08:23 AM
This an absolutely beautiful unit as all of yours are, great work.

Amadan
May 05, 2003, 11:05 AM
Thumbs up!

Xen
May 05, 2003, 07:54 PM
sweet! more fodder for the high elves...;)

mrtn
May 05, 2003, 07:56 PM
I made a Wolf (well, actually it's a Warg) Rescource for your pleasure and convenience. http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/mrtn_Wolf_Rescource.jpg

Klyde182
May 05, 2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by mrtn
I made a Wolf (well, actually it's a Warg) Rescource for your pleasure and convenience. http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/mrtn_Wolf_Rescource.jpg
Hey Mrtn that is really great :eek:
I had tried to do the same with the Wild Griffin but was sorta semi successful in doing it, what happen was I took a screen shot from the default storyboard then resized it to fit the resource file, but in the game it comes out faint & barely can be seen. I had ask around but didn't get much advice on how to correct it. Could you share with me how you did it. If not could you do a Wild Griffin Resource for me.
Thanks Klyde

Nebbish
May 05, 2003, 08:53 PM
Great Job - Keep up the good work

mrtn
May 05, 2003, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Klyde182

Hey Mrtn that is really great :eek:
I had tried to do the same with the Wild Griffin but was sorta semi successful in doing it, what happen was I took a screen shot from the default storyboard then resized it to fit the resource file, but in the game it comes out faint & barely can be seen. I had ask around but didn't get much advice on how to correct it. Could you share with me how you did it. If not could you do a Wild Griffin Resource for me.
Thanks Klyde

Well, to modify my previous statement, I didn't make this from scratch, I just used the units_32 pic for the warg rider, removed the rider, and pasted it into my rescources.pcx. I probably could do it for you, but now it's too bloody late, and it would be good for you to try it yourself. :) If you end up resizing something, do it without anti aliasing. And there is a birds nest icon (from ToT) out there you could use.

Klyde182
May 05, 2003, 11:15 PM
I just used the units_32 pic for the Wild Griffin, and pasted it into my rescources.pcx and still get the same result. Mrtn when say "If you end up resizing something, do it without anti aliasing." How do you do that? Remember all I have to use is PSP 3.0

mrtn
May 06, 2003, 10:14 AM
Klyde, this is the wrong thread for me to write a psp tutorial, especially as I don't know anything about psp. :D Check the Griffin thread. ;)

xghost
May 06, 2003, 02:51 PM
FINALLY!!! I was waiting forever for somebody to come up with orc calvary! Now forever is over!!! (wait, does that mean the world's over:().

Great unit embryodead, couldn't be better!:goodjob:

Grandraem
May 06, 2003, 02:58 PM
Wow, these are great, especially that you did two types, so one can upgrade into another.:goodjob:

Klyde182
May 06, 2003, 04:18 PM
Hey Embryo You going to the War Boss on a Wyvern......:eek:

xghost
May 06, 2003, 04:19 PM
I want that unit! I want that unit! If only there were more people out there to make these fantasy units, heck, they'd be coming along quite quickly then! Sadly, we fantasy lovers are forced to be patient and wait for the people making them to complete them *sigh*:( Oh well, i'm over it!:D

embryodead
May 06, 2003, 09:23 PM
no, no wyvern. in case of human/monster figures i am dependant on what poser models i have.

Klyde182
May 06, 2003, 09:51 PM
Maybe we could talk Kinboat into it ;) He did the Griffin Rider...Thats a sweet unit :goodjob:
What da ya say Kin...Pease:p

Kinboat
May 06, 2003, 10:50 PM
Here's a very simple chariot... The pictures were small so I went with a more traditional type. But with the right touches it could look the part. I've designed it to fit the wolves included in Poser. Let me know if there's anything else I can help out with.
About the Wyvern rider... I can't take any more projects right now (as much as I'd like to) but maybe sometime later.

embryodead
May 07, 2003, 03:36 AM
Thanks Kinboat. I tried it and it looks really good. Will take some time, as I wasn't doing anything that complex yet. I will have one thing you could help me with, and it won't take any of your time :) Will PM you later. Thx again.

black_rose
May 10, 2003, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by embryodead
black_rose, AFAIR sebsage did a lone wolf unit some time ago. dunno if it really works though...

Well as far as I know it doesn't. I think I remember it to be the size of Texas, with only one animation and a weak one at it.

I'm not completely sure though :p

Doc M
May 10, 2003, 11:14 AM
I'm making an dragon unit. it isn't true that nobody is making fantasy units.

thamis
May 12, 2003, 09:52 AM
Great!!!

Mallek
Nov 20, 2003, 05:24 PM
i don't know if i am supposed to post here or not but and this is a big but i down loaded the warg rider and when i tried to play with the unit to my suprise a native american indian apeared in it's place please help

embryodead
Nov 21, 2003, 06:41 AM
Wow ;) Could you tell us what exactly did you do? (do you know how to add units in general etc.?)

The Last Conformist
Nov 22, 2003, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by mrtn


The same thing as a Volf ;) Tolkien used the same technique as the heavy metal bands; if you can't spell it, it's cooler.:D Anyone remember Mötley Crüe?

I can't say it with certainty, but I strongly suspect that 'warg' is what an Old English cognate of Swedish varg would have looked like. The Swedish word, BTW, etymologically means something like "ill-doer", which is pretty appropriate for an evil creature.

Bane Star
Nov 27, 2003, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by xghost
I want that unit! I want that unit! If only there were more people out there to make these fantasy units, heck, they'd be coming along quite quickly then! Sadly, we fantasy lovers are forced to be patient and wait for the people making them to complete them *sigh*:( Oh well, i'm over it!:D

Not to worry, I went to the 3D modding community looking for volunteers, I have 3 so far, and should be getting some units done soon, One guy is keen to do Undead and another Orcs... Warcraft 3 style but heck better than nothing...

tjedge1
Nov 27, 2003, 10:05 AM
Cool, you think anyone could check out my unit request thread in my sig? I'm waiting patiently, and I won't give up on these yet.

Mallek
Nov 28, 2003, 01:13 PM
Further to my earlier post i have check everything and it still comes out as a native american indian

there can't be anything wrong with the addresses as i don't have a native american indian unit any where on my computer

Please Help?:egypt: :confused: [dance] :viking: :thanx:

embryodead
Nov 28, 2003, 02:02 PM
Man, we can't really help you if you won't tell us anything. You certainly do something wrong, so please tell us what exactly did you do to add this unit to a game, otherwise we just can't do anything.

tjedge1
Nov 28, 2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Mallek
Further to my earlier post i have check everything and it still comes out as a native american indian

there can't be anything wrong with the addresses as i don't have a native american indian unit any where on my computer

Please Help?


:hmm: Give us a step by step explanation how you aded the unit to your game. Also do you say the unit looks like a native american in the build screen or after you build it, it is a native american unit? If it is just in your build screen then you need to select an icon for it. Otherwise it isn't installed properly. We need more details to help you here.

Mallek
Nov 29, 2003, 09:51 PM
I installed the unit in the normal way you know - update civilpedia and pediaicons gave the correct address and every thing. i must have done it write because i have installed over 100 units and leader heads into my fantasy mod, and this is the only one that doesn't work. but and this is a big but i may have made a slight error. can you tell me have you down loaded and installed this unit and if so do you have the same problem


.p.s. the wolf rider on the other hand is fantastic.

:confused:

:egypt: :love: :goodjob:

Kinboat
Nov 29, 2003, 09:59 PM
Have you tried looking at the FLC files in FLICster? Maybe there was a glitch while downloading and you got another unit. I just downloaded them again and they come out alright though.

embryodead
Nov 30, 2003, 04:30 AM
Sorry Mallek you must have done something wrong when adding the unit. It works well ie. in my Warhammer Fantasy Mod. Check if the entry in editor matches exactly the entry in PediaIcons.txt, then the FLC files as Kinboat said.

Sarevok
Nov 30, 2003, 04:02 PM
Very good, this is going to the mods i hope. you now have so many well detailed and excellent units made, there is o question that the LOTR map you make when you finally will throw my 2 scenarios out the window. :D

tjedge1
Nov 30, 2003, 09:45 PM
@Mallek: As Kinboat posted. You might try to re-download the unit. If the wrong .flc file was put in the folder you would get a different looking unit. Those are the animation files for the unit. If one is wrong it will make your unit look like something else.

Mallek
Dec 01, 2003, 04:55 AM
:D hello every one i have located the problem with the warg rider. i forgot that when i had just civ3 and not play the world i had down loaded a tolkien mod with warg rider in it, and guess what the warg rider in the first one was a native american indian. i didn't realise though that the cpu looks through all versions of the game looking for the unit i thought it just looked in the scenario folder.

thanks everyone for their replies they were much apreciated, thank you! :goodjob: :king: :egypt: :D

tjedge1
Dec 01, 2003, 05:43 AM
Cool. Now that you found the problem, I hope you enjoy. :goodjob:

Mallek
Dec 02, 2003, 09:05 AM
yes the warg rider is excelent and i curently having a go with it in C3C :egypt: :confused: :cool: :o :eek: :mad: