So will you? I most deffinitly will.

8 new civs, new govs, new scenarios, new units, etc etc.

Where can ya go wrong?

Explain your answer, and say what you voted for! :)

I votet "YA!!!".

The reason is that I'm still looking for the PERFECT civ game, and with PTW I came a little bit closer, and with Conquest I feel that I will become closer yet.

Definitely. They owe us a good expansion after PTW. I can't wait. New civs, new govs, new wonders, all the good stuff ;).

Of course I will buy it-er, have it on my Christmas wish list.

I will definetely buy C3:C if they release it in Poland. We still don't have PTW. :mad: :cry:

Does anyone know what new civs what new govs and what else new is coming in the expansion

Yes! I will buy it! I will! No doubt! For sure I will!

Originally posted by immortal_empire
Does anyone know what new civs what new govs and what else new is coming in the expansion Yes.

Can we say anything about it?

No.

On-Topic: If I didn't already have it, I would certainly buy it! Even in beta, it's great!

Yes, I'm going to buy it.

Why: I'm a CivFanatic!

Of course I will buy it, Like the fool I am!

I'll probably get it around X-mas.

Off-Topic: Padma, how'd you get to beta test?

I might buy it but i don't know the features it is supposed to have, and i disagree with putting this out so early I haven't master ptw and multiplayer still sucks a lot. If they add a lot of great features(things that can't be modded into ptw) then most likely if it isn't buggy as hell. oh and is conquest going to have multiplayer?

Of course I'll buy it! I'd have to hit myself with The Steel Pipe Of Dishonour (tm) if I don't.

i'll buy it, mainly to continue to complete my collection of civ games.

I totally am! As a true civ fanatic, I don't see any reason not to. :)

I will go and buy it the day it comes out over here.

Why: because it will make the game better than it already is.

Like Padma, I will buy it if I'm not given a copy of it.

Originally posted by Civanator
Off-Topic: Padma, how'd you get to beta test? The same way all the beta testers did: I applied along with over 8000 others last month (there was a thread here about it). I was lucky enough to be one of the few hundred picked.

Shadylookin: According to press releases, Conquests will support multiplayer.

Yeah, but maybe i should buy PTW ;)

Heck yeah I'm buying it. The new govs and diplo/UN enhancements sound very promising.

If there are more than 2 new generic units and 2 new buildings...

I'll buy it after I get bored of RoN and CS.

I'm definately buying it the moment it hits the shelves. It's my favourite game of all time, so how could I not?:yeah:

Originally posted by Mariusz
I will definetely buy C3:C if they release it in Poland. We still don't have PTW. :mad: :cry:

HECK, I thought Australia had a long wait - Poor Poor Poland. :eek:

I've said it before and I'll say it again,

I am an addict and Civ is my crack.


In case you were wondering, I will buy it.

Yep, I probably will....

I'll be there to buy it the day it comes out. I'm really looking forward to it. Wish it were coming out sooner.:(

You left out the fourth option - buy it after the patches are out for it :) I'll certainly get it, but only after it has "matured".

YA. :)

Originally posted by theage
This is just another way for Infogrames or Atari, whatever you call it, to make money.

I bet it isnt even going to improve the multiplayer, just add civs units and techs.

I'll probably end up buying it, but is pisses me off that they don't make another patch instead. First of all, they *are* making another patch for PTW. It, too, is in testing right now. Fixes in that patch are expected to be incorporated into Conquests.

And yes, it is a way to make money. Have you ever known a successful business that wasn't trying to make money? Satisfying the cravings of thousands of civ-fans certainly feels good, but doing it for free doesn't fill the bellies of their families very well. And patches are done "for free", just because they care about their product, and us, their fans. If you want the Civ line to continue, you have to be willing to pay for some of that product.

$30 is about right for an expansion pack for any game right now, and considering that Firaxis has had a team of developers working on this for months, and Atari has had pre-production costs already, let alone final production costs, I can guarantee you that very little of that $30 is profit. As for what is in it, I can't tell you details, but so far, IMO, it will be well worth the money!

Edit: Aargh! The clock has been reset (again)! This post belongs about 7 posts further down, after theage's post. :mad:

I'm not that enthusiastic about it so far.

Many of the 'features' are things that people have been doing here for some time.

If they have fixed some of the more serious gameplay issues then I would consider. Things like:

stupid worker AI - poor improvement choice, running into war zones, not tackling pollution efficiently, etc.

slow ships - how did columbus cross the ocean blue in 1942? In a carvel!

bombard incapable of killing troops/sinking ships - Ever hear of battle of midway? Subs were not nearly as important as the guns/planes.

AI stupidities - the whole world declares war on me, but I'll keep building that wonder. I'll trade for saltpeter even though I have riflemen. I'll declare war on you even though I can't cross the ocean. etc.

OF COURSE I'LL BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Looking forward to it. Yes!!!

Originally posted by Civanator
Nuts. I never knew about the beta test :(

What rock were you sleeping under? I thought everyone knew about it. There was only like a bazillion posts on it. . .;)

Look at it this way. . . .Xmas present! And my anniversary is right around then. Hmm. . . guess what the wife is getting me!:D

edit: stupid clock resets. Can't wait until tomorrow and this is cleared up.

I won't necessarily wait until what others at CivFanatics say about it, but I will wait until I read more about whats supposed to be in the expansion pack either from reviews, chats with the programmers, or press releases. If it has what I hope it will (mostly customization issues), then I'll buy it. If not, then I won't... but even then who knows. I probably will anyway :cool:.

alamo -

A) You can make the ships faster yourself.
B) The Lethal Bombardment fix is now an option in the editor for artillery units.
C) Saltpeter can still be used for making Cavalry, which are still useful against Rifleman... You also need them for Frigates as well.

This is just another way for Infogrames or Atari, whatever you call it, to make money.

I bet it isnt even going to improve the multiplayer, just add civs units and techs.

I'll probably end up buying it, but is pisses me off that they don't make another patch instead.

Nuts. I never knew about the beta test :(

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
alamo -

A) You can make the ships faster yourself.
B) The Lethal Bombardment fix is now an option in the editor for artillery units.
C) Saltpeter can still be used for making Cavalry, which are still useful against Rifleman... You also need them for Frigates as well.

Yeah, I could edit but then I'd be out of step with GOTM.

I didn't think about the Cav/Frigate angle, but I'm pretty sure I've traded saltpeter even when those were obsolete for the trade partner.

No comment about workers/pollution?

Wouldn't it be nice if they finally put in a slider for the gpt deals. It is so stupid to have to enter and number, look at the advisor, and then enter another. Maybe someone thinks it simulates negoitiation but it is just a chore that the interface should alleviate.

Wouldn't it be nice if they finally put in a slider for the gpt deals.

I'll second that! this is an excellent idea Itcoljt.

Basically I will buy conquests if it constitutes a step in the evolution of civ rather than just an expansion of existing game elements. PTW while adding some fun things didn't add any real depth to civ.
This of course is alot easier said than done but from the features list this seems to be the Firaxis aim for conquests.

Yes, I will definitely get it.
Why? VOLCANOES

Originally posted by Cpt Kaos
Yes, I will definitely get it.
Why? VOLCANOES Darn right! :D

I just ran into my first active volcano while beta-testing. They're cool! :D And the graphics aren't even done for them yet!

yes

I'm so gona buy it,

why: Disasters, new civs, no doubt units, governments, terain. And this is just the stuff i know so far, there's is sure too be more.

By the time it is available in Australia, Patch two will be out.

This of course will only work in America....so, another twelve months for our patch...so maybe in about three years I will buy it.:mad:

Originally posted by Esca
By the time it is available in Australia, Patch two will be out.

This of course will only work in America....so, another twelve months for our patch...so maybe in about three years I will buy it.:mad:

Though PTW was delayed in Australia the American patch worked on it so don't be such a pessemist.

I voted the third option. I'll probably ask for it for Christmas or my birthday, unless everyone's saying that it's not very good (which probably won't happen, considering the moods of the beta-testers).

As others have said, I hope some depth is added to the game (akin to PTW adding multiplayer), not just new units and civs and the like. I'm certainly intrigued by the new victory conditions that they talk about; I wonder what they could be. :hmm:

I'm actually looking forward to the next PTW patch more than Conquests. I wonder if multiplayer will be improved at all, along with some other stuff that would be good to see.

Originally posted by Padma
Darn right! :D

I just ran into my first active volcano while beta-testing. They're cool! :D And the graphics aren't even done for them yet!

I guess that means there are still some things in progress. Hopefully some propositions can still be accepted and make it into the game.

I will most likely pre-order it, like with [ptw] !!

Originally posted by ltcoljt
Wouldn't it be nice if they finally put in a slider for the gpt deals. It is so stupid to have to enter and number, look at the advisor, and then enter another. Maybe someone thinks it simulates negoitiation but it is just a chore that the interface should alleviate.
I saw someone second this. Well, count me in too!! A slider for money deals would be GREAT! :thumbsup:

I'm going to stay out of this one. I don't know what the new victory conditions and governments could add to the game, though maybe when I see what they are I might change my mind. What they really need to do is work on creating a new Civ game that's able to encompass such things as civil war, nonconventional war, and terrorism--Civ3 was a step BACK from Civ2 in this, as barbarians become completely nonexistant later in the game (rather than turning into guerillas). This is the MOST important.

Secondly, almost equally important is a REAL United Nations. There needs to be a mechanism for diplomacy between more than two nations--there needs to be a way to form alliances like NATO (or the post-World War I situation) between a group of countries as well.

After this, I'd also love to see a way of implementing cultural advantages from having certain types of people in a country, if this is possible--after all, throughout the entire Middle Ages, European countries invited Jews in to help their country (and subsequently slaughtered them--this could be an option for resentment that might be caused by differing people, with obvious consequences).

Basically, I don't see how Conquests will improve my Civ experience. PTW didn't improve it enough to be worth the money, and I fail to see how Conquests will be any different.

I'll buy it for sure.
I am after all a civ fanatic.

Originally posted by Padma
I just ran into my first active volcano while beta-testing. They're cool! :D And the graphics aren't even done for them yet!
That's right, the lava and smoking ashes are pretty sweet!

Yes I am going to get Conquests. :)

If there's a Mac port, probably, yeah. [civ3mac]

Of course, PTW for Mac is still questionable. :cry:

I sleep, eat, and breathe Civ and theres no way I wont get Conquests.

Originally posted by Padma
Darn right! :D

I just ran into my first active volcano while beta-testing. They're cool! :D And the graphics aren't even done for them yet!

This will probably get Padma banned but the Civ Community has to know!

What about those Tsunamis you told me about the other day, eh? How are they?

Nah, I am just playing! Padma didn’t tell me anything. I don’t even know of any other disasters. But if I was right about that and did not write this sentence he would probably be in a lot of trouble.:crazyeye:

Relax all. :)
I am just heaping about Tsunamis...
;)

BTW, are you allowed to let your family know anything about Conquests?

What's the big deal about disasters? Has anyone asked for them? Has anyone thought they wanted them? This isn't SimCity... they have yet to implement the dynamics of civil wars, they have yet to put out a decent scenario editor, and they have yet to fix the multiplayer problems remaining from PtW, and everyone's excited about volcanos? I guess this is how they make so much money...

disasters wil add an unknown element to the game that doesn't already exist.

Only if I can really make scenario's with it where it is possible to steer the AI during the game ie like Civ2's editor and event

Personally, I'd gladly sacrifice all random disasters, volcanoes, craters etc. for better diplomacy and AI. Great leaders, culture flips and diseases are enough for me.
Random things are kinda nice but don't give much strategic element, except for great leaders who are important but certainly not needed for victory.

Yep, for my laptop.

Arrrrr, dammit, can't you see what's going on here? Nobody can say whether or not there is improved AI in the expansion pack, which likely means it's the same AI. So really, the same game in a different box. Just like PTW. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME.

Hehe, on every single post you make you mention something about AI. Relax, wait until it is out. PTW doesn't have that much in it but still the AI is a bit better than vanilla.

Originally posted by Jove
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME.

I take it that you like Lee anne Rimes?:lol:

Will adopt a wait-and-see attitude. Hadn't played an SP game for a long time, so I can live w/o it. :)

I think the AI definitly WILL be improved, because they have worked a long time on this Expansion pack.

Shame on YOU for thinking that a mediocre country singer whose songs are full of cliches could possibly think of something original. That's an old saying, not something LeAnn Rhimes came up with.

If it doesn't have a decent editor so we can make proper scenarios, then I will not buy it.

Like several people have said, we were ripped off with PTW and are not likely to be caught again.

Originally posted by ogrejedi
Shame on YOU for thinking that a mediocre country singer whose songs are full of cliches could possibly think of something original. That's an old saying, not something LeAnn Rhimes came up with.

You seem to be quite well acquanted with the content of her songs despite the mediocricy and cliches inherent in them.
Dont tell me the mighty seductive music machine has gotten you too?:cry:
RESIST PEOPLE!!! LOOK AWAY FROM THE TV!!! IT WILL SUCK YOU IN AND NOT LET GO!!!!!

We do not like talk of piracy here at CFC. Even if you are not the one doing the cracking, you are stealing Firaxis'/Breakaway's/Atari's product. Shame on you! --Padma

:nono:
Dont do it Founder!!!

I'll buy it if it brings editor to level of civ2 editor... nuf said

I just read the Gamespot info on it and it looks like all most all new features are only in the scenarios they make and there will be only seven new civs not eight, I now think the new expansion will be crap.

Well if they could add so much new stuff to the scenarios they would probably add some of them to the main game and the other new features could be added in with the editor. The new expansion can't be crap with everything in PTW being in it. I'm still somewhat confused as to whether I should be happy that there are so many new features in Conquest :) or be mad for being ripped off when I bought PTW :mad: .

Originally posted by Quentin
Well if they could add so much new stuff to the scenarios they would probably add some of them to the main game and the other new features could be added in with the editor. The new expansion can't be crap with everything in PTW being in it. I'm still somewhat confused as to whether I should be happy that there are so many new features in Conquest :) or be mad for being ripped off when I bought PTW :mad: .

It says in the article things like added natural disasters to (I forget which scenario)

So they aren't in the main game

You already have the PTW features if you bought it.

It said they were adding SEVEN new civs not eight.

It sucks.

:hmm: Pessimists, what do you do about them?

I'm saying compared to PTW it would be good. Very good. And what's so bad about 7 new civs? Most people don't play all the civs anyway... With so many new possiblities I'd probably be downloading user-created scenarios much more frequently. But still what do I do about PTW :aargh: !

Originally posted by Quentin
:hmm: Pessimists, what do you do about them?

I'm saying compared to PTW it would be good. Very good. And what's so bad about 7 new civs? Most people don't play all the civs anyway... With so many new possiblities I'd probably be downloading user-created scenarios much more frequently. But still what do I do about PTW :aargh: !

I used to think Conquests would be excellent and was quite optimistic about it before I read that Article, read it.

P.S. I like PtW and was optimistic about it.

I'll definetely get it, unsure of whether it will be on my own or for Christmas. I wouldn't want to wait that month or two months until Christmas, especially since I frequent a Civ site. :cry:

Portugal in, me in :D
(Besides it has many great ads to the game...)

Originally posted by Portuguese
Portugal in, me in :D
(Besides it has many great ads to the game...)


Yes !!!!! But we will have to wait abou 5-6 months after the release in the USA. It always take forever to arrive to Portugal :cry:


Lets make a pact, when one of us see it in a store, he will PM the other.:)

Originally posted by Elden
I just read the Gamespot info on it and it looks like all most all new features are only in the scenarios they make and there will be only seven new civs not eight, I now think the new expansion will be crap. I take it you didnt notice in the thread said article was mentioned that one of the testers confirmed you can add everything in the scenarios into the game via the editor?

Originally posted by Elden
I just read the Gamespot info on it and it looks like all most all new features are only in the scenarios they make and there will be only seven new civs not eight, I now think the new expansion will be crap.

I guess the Gamespot previewer didn't spend much time with the game then. There are lots of changes in the normal game.

I voted Yah!

Especially since it was anounced that the dutch are in.
But to be honest if they weren't I would have bought it anyway.
I have modded PTW and have added the Dutch already. Only using a borrowed leaderhead of Robert the Bruce (thanks Sween:) ) and a fan made ship as a UU for a Dutch galleon.

With the Scenario additions and stuff. Of course I am going to buy this Expantion :D.

I'll buy it, definitely...

But only for the new diplomacy options and the conquests... And also the new units. Well, what else is left anyway?

PTW was, well, fine. But definitely there was much more room for improvement. I mean, it should have had new diplomacy options. It's kind of boring when there's only combat and not much diplomacy. The AI is treating human players like, err, you know (it's maybe because I usually play at the monarch level, but still). With more diplomacy options (such as the ones in Europa Universalis 2 or something), it would give the human player some chance to actually get involved in the trade going on between the AI...

Originally posted by D.Shaffer
I take it you didnt notice in the thread said article was mentioned that one of the testers confirmed you can add everything in the scenarios into the game via the editor?

1) Aren't the testers under an NDA meaning tht's probably just a rumour

2) To add the scenario specific Civs you would have to remove currently existing civs

3) Can anyone confirm wether their are 7 or 8 new civs.

4) The game was covered very well but just doesn't interest me as much as the original and PtW did.