Welcome to the Term 3 Domestic office for Fanatica. Our nation has reached a time when it needs a good overall strategy to ensure quick expansion, well-placed and timed improvements, and sufficient military might to make the other civilizations pause before challenging us, or even better yet tremble at the thought of our wrath.

My plan is to make this office the place where all of our plans intertwine into a coherent whole. Where direct responsibility for communicating with the people for many decisions lies elsewhere in the other executive departments and the governors offices, the Domestic office is the one place where all priorities can be traded off against one another.

Domestic Leader: DaveShack
Domestic Deputy: Fionn McCumhall

Here are some ideas for Domestic Initiatives for this term.

Conference of Governors and Mayors
Governors have the power to set production goals for the cities in their provinces, with the advice of the mayors. This conference seeks to bring the governors and mayors together as the experts on their respective areas, to balance production across the whole of fanatica. The basic idea here is that the Domestic Leader would set overall production goals based on citizens input regarding short and long-term strategy, and the Governors, with advice of the mayors, would coordinate their build queues accordingly.

Office of Corruption Reduction
This office would have the task of forecasting the effects of corruption and planning improvements and other means to combat the problem.

[B]The door is always open[/B
This department has an open door policy. Citizens should feel free to drop in any time with their ideas, observations, and even complaints. Our nation derives its strength from its people, and constructive input from everyone is needed to make our nation the best in history.

Now to the task at hand, pushing ahead of our rivals in every way we can.

@Dave - Are there any plans from the Domestic Department on where our Settlers should Settle. Ill make some Proposals for the Domestic :).

On the subject of settlement:

Two good potential sites in Aventine. One is the forest to the north of the horses on the bay, and the other is the hill to the north of the dyes, or possibly the grassland to the west of the iron.

A strategy which I haven't seen being used in the demogame is the tight build strategy. This involves planning each city to have approximately 12 squares. A full city radius is never used until the industrial age, and that is a long, long, long way away. So if we jigsawed the cities together perfectly, for half the game 40% of the tiles would be wasted, therefore taking out 40% of our optimum population, and all the troubles attached with that.

The way it works is that every city has to be within 3-4 squares of another city. a possible layout would be:


/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\
/XX\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/XX\
\XX/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\XX/
\/ \/ \/ \/ \/XX\/ \/ \/XX\/ \/ \/ \/
/\ /\ /\ /\ /\XX/\ /\ /\XX/\ /\ /\ /\
/ \/ \/XX\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \
\ /\ /\XX/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /
\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/XX\/ \/
/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\XX/\ /\
/ \/ \/ \/ \/XX\/ \/ \/XX\/ \/ \/ \/ \
\ /\ /\ /\ /\XX/\ /\ /\XX/\ /\ /\ /\ /
\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/

where the bold XXs are cities.

See how every city is at least withing three squares of another city? It is also planned so every city gets at least nine squares to themselves, plus a couple more to share for those important projects. Usually, only a handful of cities grow larger than size nine before railroad. We have an entire era until then.

Even when rail does come in, these cities will produce around 40spt if they are well placed cities. It is always good to have cities spread apart on mountain ridges, because these will grow to 80spt+ later on, and they need the space for growth.

EDIT: in the map shown above, the first city on the second row could move NW, and the scend city on the second row NE, for a better placement. It is too difficult to redo the map now.

there is a discussion thread called manifest desitny in which we also discuss city placement. As a citizen im appalled at this lack of discussion in the thread i made, as a former domestic leader and current domestic deputy, im further appaled at this. How can we as leader lead if the citizens refuse to discuss in the apporiate threads.

Dear Domestic Leader,

I want to request funding to cash-rush a settler in Klixus-Major. A Babylonian galley has been spotted a few turns ago sailing to our unsettled lands in the far west of Esquiline province. In order to prevent them from taking too much from our lands (I fear stopping them altogether is impossible without starting a war), we need to claim as much as possible ourselves. There are now no free Settlers available to do this.

It will require 56 gold from our treasury, but I think it is money well spend.

Awaiting your decision,
Rik Meleet
Governor of Esquiline Province
Trade Deputy

The request to rush a settler in Klixus-Major is approved, see the budget thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1093211#post1093211) for additional information.

Dear Mr. Domestic Leader,

I am writing to your now regarding instructions from your department. I maintained the science rate as high as possible while still maintaining your desired 4gpt surplus. The science rate is currently at 70% with monotheism coming in two turns. IIRC our surplus is now gpt. It is traditional that the DP optimizes the science rate at time to maximize our surplus, i.e., when we are one turn from learning a new tech the DP will lower the science rate as low as possible while still getting the tech next turn. This allows a one turn increased surplus. The science rate is then raised back to the previous level. Please include authority for this in your instructions. Setting a permanent science rate will cause os to lose this income.

Also, is the domestic department reserving the right to place our cities. I know that is a traditional function of the domestic department. If so, then please give instructions for sites for any settlers that will be produced in the near future. A case in point is the settler that was rushed in Klixus-Major in 410 AD. Your department authorized the rush of that settler but left no instructions for where to place it. If you wish to delegate the placement of certain settlers to a governor or the president then please post so in your instructions. That could avoid legal problems later. :)

Thank you,
donsig

In response to the Domestic leader's post in Esquiline-pronvince thread I made this reply. I haven't heard from Domestic since, so I'll post it here again. I'd like a statement from Domestic please:

Palatine will finish a settler in 2 turns. Klixus-Major and Aqualonde will finish their spearman first. I will consult with the Mayors of the last 2 cities to squeeze in a settler.
I haven't made the calculations yet what the cost is, but is this so important to the Domestic Office that some funding can be approve to cashrush the settlers? If not than the settlers will not be finished sooner than 15 turns after they've started.
If it is really important to the Domestic office I can discuss with the Mayors to switch Klixus-Major and Aqualonde to settlers and cashrush them immediately. If this is the plan the Domestic Office, please let me know and I will make sure the city, provincial and National interests are made the same.

Rik Meleet
Governor of Esquiline

@Rik

Sorry, was looking for the requested citizen input on priorities for settlement locations. Since no additional input appears to be forthcoming, see the provincial thread for an analysis of the situation. :)

Dear Domestic Leader:

Please look into the future city placement on the Peninsula. It might one day be a great benefit to our country if we built a canal on the Peninsula similar to the one in Esquiline.

Thank you,
donsig

I had intended this to be the 2nd post in the dept thread, and then returned from vacation to find the nation in turmoil, and never got around to it. Nevertheless, better late than never! ;)

Domestic Status for 810AD

Income 367
From cities 319
From other civs 48
Current deals
Greece 5gpt (1?)
Persia 42gpt (14)
Persia 1gpt (1?)

Expenses 330
Net +37gpt (2.8.0)

Science 193
Entertainment 0
Corruption 89
Maintenance 47
Unit Costs 1

We have 41 cities. Top 5 producers for commerce are:
Gorina 32
Memphis 24
Noshuret 22
Inadatto 11
Nar Shadaa 11

Top 5 producers for shields are
Gorina 17
Noshuret 12
Aureus 11
New Jedina 9
Memphis (in disorder, think it is 10 or 11)

Top population
Gorina 11
Memphis 10
Noshuret 8
8 tied with 6

7 cities with +3 food
3 cities with +0 food

Originally posted by donsig
Dear Domestic Leader:

Please look into the future city placement on the Peninsula. It might one day be a great benefit to our country if we built a canal on the Peninsula similar to the one in Esquiline.

Thank you,
donsig

Excellent suggestion!! :goodjob:
The discussion on this important topic can be found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59620)