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VanillaCube
Oct 29, 2000, 05:23 PM
I play a way that only the most determind civ players can do.
It is to try and live in a peacefull world where all the civs can build there land up and be powerfull and all civs are created equel. http://forums.civfanatics.com/cool.gif
My way of playing is to try and keep all civs from destroying eachother and I do that by giving less develeped countrys the tec needed to survive and if there is a war between two or more civs I dont declare war on either and send troops between them and act like the UN. (I also always get the UN,Marco polos embessy, statue o liberty, leonardos workshop, and change to fundemenalisum as soon as possible)

Thunderfall
Oct 29, 2000, 05:28 PM
Interesting.... It can be fun babysitting those AI civs. http://forums.civfanatics.com/eek.gif Do you give monetary aid to them also?

VanillaCube
Oct 29, 2000, 05:33 PM
What I do is just make sure I have a full zone of control between the two civs so they cant even get to each other but unfortanally they can still sent planes to the other civ and paratroop so if the civ is not doing so well I will give them money and If the civ is really not doing well I am forced to declare war on the winnig civ to divert there units away from the other civ.

VanillaCube
Oct 29, 2000, 05:50 PM
also I will continue to play the game even after I win or lose from the space program

I will do whatever It takes to keep the balance of power but in a certaint order

1.make peace with everyone
2.get all the tec I can
3.give tec to underdevelupd countrys
4.establesh a line of fanatics between civs
5.back my words up with nukes
6.be ready to atack and fight for the underdog
7.after war breaks out
8.give money to the underdog
9.give troops to the underdog
10.Invade the civ winning and destroy there land
11.bomb there citys
12.destroy there citys
13.If all elses fails Nukes pevail
14.If they still want to kill the other civ
they must be denied acsess to my world

SunTzu
Oct 29, 2000, 07:27 PM
That's what i play as also, somewhat. Especially when playing friends via Internet. Like if my friend is being aggressive or is getting to powerful i'll make the other Computer opponents to hate him and i also build up their economy by giving them some Tech and money. http://forums.civfanatics.com/smile.gif
Keep's the civs in check.

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VanillaCube
Oct 29, 2000, 08:18 PM
Yea But I TRY and avoid any kind of war Even If It doesent Invole me http://forums.civfanatics.com/wink.gif

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VanillaCube
Oct 29, 2000, 08:28 PM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/cool.gif it worked http://forums.civfanatics.com/cool.gif

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damunzy
Oct 31, 2000, 09:53 PM
Peace, what is peace? There can be no true peace in the game b/c of the way the AI was designed. That is why the computer must die! http://forums.civfanatics.com/smile.gif

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Lefty Scaevola
Nov 01, 2000, 06:57 AM
"time, time, time
for another peaceful war
but time stands still for Roland
till he evens up the score"

from Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner
by Warren Zeavon

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Gauis Mucius Scaevola
Older, richer, and wiser than you.

blitzy
Nov 02, 2000, 09:47 AM
All I want is peace.

A little peace of England, a little piece of France, a little peace of Germany......

Blitz

Austin the Great
Nov 03, 2000, 08:53 PM
Bah! The only way for true peace is to conquere the world so there are no other civs to fight!

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I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU TO HELL!

damunzy
Nov 03, 2000, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by blitzy:
All I want is peace.

A little peace of England, a little piece of France, a little peace of Germany......

Blitz
You make me http://forums.civfanatics.com/smile.gif



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Lefty Scaevola
Nov 03, 2000, 09:15 PM
. Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum.

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Gauis Mucius Scaevola
Older, richer, and wiser than you.

VanillaCube
Nov 05, 2000, 11:10 PM
Your All a bunch of evil stupid war mongers you and your civs must die a horrible horrible death!!!

but then i would be reduced to your level and.... but who cares NUKE THE WORLD!!!!!
if im going down im taking everybody with me and then noone will survive and only then can you trully have peace!

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VANILLA CUBE
the great

Austin the Great
Nov 09, 2000, 08:48 PM
wanna' play multiplayer vannilacube?

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I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU TO HELL!

VanillaCube
Nov 09, 2000, 09:06 PM
cant play multiplayer because I own civ 2 on playstation

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VANILLA CUBE
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VanillaCube
Nov 27, 2000, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by vanillacube:
Yea But I TRY and avoid any kind of war Even If It doesent Invole me http://forums.civfanatics.com/wink.gif


I realized that what I said here makes no sense!
dose anyone know what I was trying to say? cause I dont

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2.You Cant Argue With Stupitity!
3.an Eye for and Eye(and while your at it take 2)

SunTzu
Nov 27, 2000, 09:30 PM
You've got me <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/smilies/cwm2.gif" border=0> Peace is good when you need it, but war is necessary in the growth of the world http://forums.civfanatics.com/biggrin.gif
Nukes, who needs Nukes? Bah!

VanillaCube
Nov 28, 2000, 08:18 PM
Hey if Im losing a war Im going to hurt everyone as much as possible that means NUKES NUKES AND MORE NUKES and cause global warming and make the world after im gone not worth living in.
so someday when the survivers are all horribly deformed muitants living in caves and garding there scarce food they will wish for the days when I had a huge empire and the world was livable.

if Im going down im taking EVEREBODY with me!

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my words of wisdom

1.Square meals often make round people.
2.You Cant Argue With Stupitity!
3.an Eye for and Eye(and while your at it take 2)
4.visit my site at http://grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/Vanillacubesgammingtips.html

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SunTzu
Nov 28, 2000, 09:25 PM
Are you on any medication Vanilla?<IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/smilies/cwm36.gif" border=0>

VanillaCube
Nov 28, 2000, 09:30 PM
Yea actually I am!!!
but its but its for cancer, not because im insane!
why do you ask?

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my words of wisdom

1.Square meals often make round people.
2.You Cant Argue With Stupitity!
3.an Eye for and Eye(and while your at it take 2)
4.visit my site at http://grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/Vanillacubesgammingtips.html

SunTzu
Nov 29, 2000, 06:32 PM
Because your the most hyper person on this forum :P

VanillaCube
Nov 29, 2000, 08:25 PM
Ima Not Hyper! I perfer to be called excentric!

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my words of wisdom

1.Square meals often make round people.
2.You Cant Argue With Stupitity!
3.an Eye for and Eye(and while your at it take 2)
4.visit my site at http://grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/Vanillacubesgammingtips.html

Capua
Dec 07, 2000, 05:01 AM
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Help the computer civs? Ha! I always encourge war between the other civs. Let them destroy each other! http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/lol.gif

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I love building, large, prosperous and happy empires. Great cities with lots and lots of peaceful and content people. And me as their undoubted ruler. I don't like wars but I'm leathal if you should get in to one with me. Beware!

stellar converter
Dec 07, 2000, 07:48 PM
i often give smaller ai's a humongous leap technologically and monetarilly if they are way behind, to get other pesky civs off my back. i of course have them declare war toohttp://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/lol.gif

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scorch
Dec 12, 2000, 07:30 AM
nah, always encourage wars between comps, coz then when they are both at each others throats, you can secretlly, build up a army, and wipe one of them out. then get a war between the other, and a new fella, then wipe out the new fella, and continue like that, so the oldfella is real wasted at the end of it, and you can just nuke him anyway.

cichlid221
Dec 12, 2000, 04:19 PM
War kills scenario. When I played the "Somewhere in Time" scenario, the Asians and Moslems kept nuking each other's cities! I built a solid wall of fanatics, touching side to side (I was allied w/ both, and they have no respect for territory!), blocked all subs and helicopters going around the world, (By the way, you can recharge a helicopter in midflight so it'll go on forever without crashing), and they still nuked each other!!!
Peace is tough, but it was worth it.

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Michspirit99
Dec 12, 2000, 08:30 PM
Whoever doesn't like war Can ALL die a serious Nuclear DEATH!Peace is for wussies.I always say when you get enough power,Destroy the world.Be a Backstabber.Make alliances and use your allies to destroy the other civs,then destroy your Allies.Never give Your Allies or other civs any valuable and dangerous tech.Then when you get them,Nuke Everything!

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Fuzz
Dec 28, 2000, 02:34 AM
Hrm, I don't really play like this, but I do try to help the underdog, I also try to cut down the winning Civ with many enemies so that he isn't as hard when its just me and him (I suck BTW).

"Peace, what is peace? There can be no true peace in the game b/c of the way the AI was designed. That is why the computer must die!" - In a game I was playing recently, I was allied with the winning Civ, at the end, it was only me and him, he didnt ask for war, or even make demands, he was happy to let me be.

However, he had a city bult next to my best city (my first city, my capital, it had every single improvement and most of the wonders) somehow he had managed to get control of one of my farms (I had made the farms way before he managed to sneak into my mainland), I thought "I'll just pillage it, then he will use another square, then I'll use the square and build it back up" then Civ 2 tells me I'm not allowed to ruin the square I myself built up. Argh! Why don't allies respect each others land control boundries!

I was so angry, I broke alliance, broke peace by nuking him, and then he came and asked for peace again, even though he was winning by miles. It was Japan BTW.

lothrids
Dec 28, 2000, 10:40 PM
I really can not stand the AI. Every time I talk to them its give us this or we will crush you. They do this even if they only have 1 town left. You would think they would learn to be civil when they are about to be crushed but NO! Its like they are trying to invite me to wipe them out. I really hate the AI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vladmir_illych_lenin
Dec 31, 2000, 06:52 PM
Excactly! When the AI only has one city left surrounded by legions, I send an emmissary and demand cash http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gif, they say "Our patience is exhasted, our army is mobilized for WAR!".
Note: their civilization has no units left, and their only city is starving because my units are occupying their countryside.

vladmir_illych_lenin
Dec 31, 2000, 06:57 PM
My way of playing is controlling the smaller, weaker civilizations. I use them as a source of money. Sure, I let them spread and prosper, but once they get past, say 200 gold, I demand tribute. They immediately give me almost all their money.

Quote: "Wow, the spanish have over 250 dollars!"
I demand tribute.
"We give you a gift of 250 dollars to your magnificence."

I do this to all the weaker civilizations, and i gain about an extra 100 gold per turn. Sometimes they declare war, but they're not enraged, only reserved. I just wait a few turns, let them cool down, and send an emissary. They offer all their gold and knowledge for a ceasefire. I sign the ceasefire, but not a treaty. A couple of turns later, they offer all their gold and money for a treaty. I agree. Then I start demanding money all over again, and the cycle starts all over again. I am soooo cruel. http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gifevil:http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gifevil:http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gifevil:

Sorry, i know this thread is called "A peaceful world"

VanillaCube
Dec 31, 2000, 08:42 PM
Well thats what peacefull stratagy is all about taking all the other civs Money and maps!

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3.SunTzu
4.Blitz
5.Håkan
6.Warlord56
7.scorch
8.vladmir_illych_lenin

Cunobelin Of Hippo
Jan 01, 2001, 01:35 AM
Yeah, what's wrong with a little friendly extortion among neighbours? It's called 'sharing', and if your gonna be a selfish little http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/eek.gif then you ain't welcome on my planet.

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stellar converter
Jan 01, 2001, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by vanillacube:
Well thats what peacefull stratagy is all about taking all the other civs Money and maps!



WHAT? YOU TRADE MAPS? what about your precious little explorerhttp://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gif?

VanillaCube
Jan 01, 2001, 11:24 PM
I take there maps by using explorers and the apollo program!
and I trade maps with them at the begining to get an Idea were they are.

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The people in my cool book
1.Thunderfall
2.Stellar
3.SunTzu
4.Blitz
5.Håkan
6.Warlord56
7.scorch
8.vladmir_illych_lenin

vladmir_illych_lenin
Jan 02, 2001, 01:00 AM
When I'm rich, i give them like 5000 gold, and then demand tribute, and they give me...5000 gold!

Cunobelin Of Hippo
Jan 02, 2001, 01:11 AM
Slick.

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What Louis came after Louis the 3rd?

How many metric gallons in a furlong?

scorch
Jan 02, 2001, 05:05 AM
why help the underdog, why not just takehim over and that be it. u get points for it as well!

vladmir_illych_lenin
Jan 02, 2001, 11:55 PM
You wouldn't say that if ur the underdog!

Michspirit99
Jan 12, 2001, 09:18 PM
U don't have to be the underdog.the whole point of the game is too destroy eachother.THERE IS NO PEACE!I've tried peace on many occasions,just to have the peace treaties broken and my cities come under fire.There is no way for peace to succeed.The AI is just too Jealous of the human player's power.

Michspirit99
Jan 12, 2001, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by vanillacube:
Well thats what peacefull stratagy is all about taking all the other civs Money and maps!


Hey Vanilla,I'm peaceful.Put me on your list!

VanillaCube
Jan 12, 2001, 10:50 PM
Ok sure

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3.Stellar
4.SunTzu
5.Håkan
6.scorch
7.vladmir_illych_lenin
8.vanilla_converter
9.Michspirit99

[This message has been edited by vanillacube (edited January 12, 2001).]

Honest_Iago
Feb 09, 2001, 09:27 PM
Since I consider my playing style the outgrowth of my personality, I tend to side with Cube. If the computer leaves me alone (like that happens very often), I leave it alone.

As for War, I think Jacob Bronowski said it best: "War is organized theft." If you find yourself feeling bloodthiirsty and power-hungry every time you play a game, you might want to seek psychiatric care.

Cube: do you select your opponents and pick the peaceful ones? This can help cut down on armed conflict.

VanillaCube
Feb 11, 2001, 03:58 AM
I never select my opponents.
I am not all peace I try and be more like the U.S. in the world and if a civ is getting too cocky and mean I have to reduce most of there cities to rubble until they beg me to stop and give me money!
then after that I dont destroy there last city instead I back out my troops and protect that civ from others until they get back on there feet and can protect themselfs from AI invasions!

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The people in my cool book
1.Travin
2.Thunderfall
3.Stellar
4.SunTzu
5.Håkan
6.scorch
7.vladmir_illych_lenin
8.vanilla_converter
9.Michspirit99

Lefty Scaevola
Feb 11, 2001, 09:56 AM
I am warlike in the early BC years as was true for almost all civ then. I wipe out nearby civs early (I set the rules for restart dead civs) but turn peaceful as soon as I have republic or democracy. After that I do not declare or provoke wars, but all the other civs attack me sooner or later because I lead the power graph and do give them any gifts. When they attack I typically crush them down to one city.

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Mechanical_Animal
Feb 11, 2001, 10:01 PM
There can be only one form of peace in the game world and that is a minimalist existance under the heel of by boot.

Vedda
Feb 11, 2001, 10:51 PM
how dose this line of troops work?

If you get in between two rivil civs, your more then likly to be attacked by one of them or both. Alot of civs are close together and battles can be forght round cities making it hard to get your troops in there without causing an insedent and if you did get this line of troops seperating them, the two civs will eventualy build next to your troops and ask you to leave there land usless you are allied. It has bein extremly hard in my experence to obtain allied treaties with all the civ in your world.

I myself prefer a peacful victory if I can manage it but have jet to play a game that even comes close, other civs become really teasty in the later half of CIV II.

VanillaCube
Feb 12, 2001, 01:07 AM
I dont always use the line of people tactic I just try and keep a good amout of people between both civs and keep them fortified and It would not work if you are allied with them because then you have no zone of control to seperate the to civs and if they attack me that wall bettween the two civs will suddenly fall on them and reduce there citys to rubble but not kill them!
paratroopers work good for the line espesally if the line is on hills and mountains!

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The people in my cool book
1.Travin
2.Thunderfall
3.Stellar
4.SunTzu
5.Håkan
6.scorch
7.vladmir_illych_lenin
8.vanilla_converter
9.Michspirit99

Dreadnought
Feb 12, 2001, 05:21 PM
How do you do it? I mean make peace with every body? I can never get the AI civ to make peace with me let alone alliances. I talk to them i send them gifts and they hate me.

Is it just because i'm so much stronger than them..I don't think so, i'm playing a game on king right now where everyone is about equal. They HATE me! I cant do it.

THey used to be at peace with me all the time when i was at lower levels like warloard but the higher up you go the harder it gets.

I can send them 1000g's before a cease fire is out, and they'll still attack me on there next turn. My reputation never goes below "Questionable" I need some Expert help.

VanillaCube
Feb 12, 2001, 06:40 PM
My reputation never goes below spotless!
and thats why I said it is a very hard thing to do I many times lose millons of troops in order to keep the peace!
and one of the best things Ive found to do is to make peace with them and not talk to them after so you wont piss them off (or them piss me off) with mindless negotiations!

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2.Thunderfall
3.BlueMonday

stormerne
Feb 13, 2001, 10:52 AM
My reputation never goes below Spotless either. Why would it need to? I still find I can choose whether to keep the peace (for a spaceship game), or taunt the others to declare war (for a world domination game).

Making peace and giving all the other civs all your techs is useful when you're trying to go for a really early spaceship launch, as you have seven tribes researching for you rather than just one! However, I find peace is only really important when you want the extra points for your score in the endgame.

But the underdog - that is, the least developed civ scientifically - seems to be there for just one reason: to take over all except one city and keep as a pet for the endgame!

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I know one thing that never dies -- the dead man's reputation."
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