Gamespy has just posted their Conquest preview! You can find it at: http://www.gamespy.com/previews/july03/civ3conquestspc/ Enjoy!

Yay! *starts reading*

EDIT: Wow, wonders that spawn units, new types of citizen, privateers that can enslave other ships... amazing!

I notice that they say that there are only 7 new civilizations, but the extra stuff makes this seem like it's gonna be a lot better that PTW. A LOT better.

The Preview
Aircraft and ships now also take twice as much damage in port, meaning that it's better to be exploring the open seas than "turtling" at home.

Huh? This confuses me and sounds weird. :confused:

Aside from that, it all sounds cool. The Knights Templar sounds like a good wonder - I hope it doesn't spawn units too fast. And enslaving enemy units also sounds cool - but I hope they are weak so it isn't unbalancing.

And this new stealth thingy sounds weird and interesting. Is it an invisible unit that can attack enemies without being seen?

And this new stealth thingy sounds weird and interesting. Is it an invisible unit that can attack enemies without being seen?

I think the stealth unit will be invisible until it attacks, then it will be very visible ;)

Probably some units will be able to see stealth units.

A stealth unit will be for example NINJAS

I'm excited that everything will go into the editor as well, so I foresee some interesting homemade mods and scenarios. It'll be great!

I saw something that looked like Parrots... what is that? Also, llamas/Alpacas? Emeralds? Lots of cool looking new resources and terrain types; volcanoe, irrigating on hills... Looks like a lot of fun, I can't wait!

Nice preview! :)

Parrots are Birds of Paradise, a new resource for the Mesoamerican Conquest (and others?)

Regarding the Turtling of Ships: If you keep Ships in a city all the time (i.e. at dock), they're more susceptible to damage a la Pearl Harbor. That is the reason they'll take double-damage if inside a city. You're thus better off keeping them outside the city if you fear they will be attacked.

Man, each new day Conquests sounds better and better. :goodjob:Originally posted by nalves
I think the stealth unit will be invisible until it attacks, then it will be very visible ;)No, it would be more fun if you thought your own units were killing themselves. ;)

Regarding stealth attack, quote from one of previous previews:
- Stealth Attack - When attacking, choose the unit in the stack that you wish to attack
Certainly designed for daimyo assassination missions in Sengoku scenario.

Nothing new, except for about a dozen cookies that GameSpy tried to install on my computer. Thanks to Mozilla, however, they are no more. :D

Originally posted by ChrTh

Regarding the Turtling of Ships: If you keep Ships in a city all the time (i.e. at dock), they're more susceptible to damage a la Pearl Harbor. That is the reason they'll take double-damage if inside a city. You're thus better off keeping them outside the city if you fear they will be attacked.

What are you talking about?? You can't attack a ship that's in port. Or will that feature be included in Conquest?

Yes you can.

Originally posted by ChrTh
Regarding the Turtling of Ships: If you keep Ships in a city all the time (i.e. at dock), they're more susceptible to damage a la Pearl Harbor. That is the reason they'll take double-damage if inside a city. You're thus better off keeping them outside the city if you fear they will be attacked.

In PTW, when you conquer a city, all airplanes and naval units die. Will they change this? Will these units defend a little (take double damage) against land based attacks? :confused:

I'm curious as to what the "Sid" difficulty level will be like...

Originally posted by Roland Johansen


In PTW, when you conquer a city, all airplanes and naval units die. Will they change this? Will these units defend a little (take double damage) against land based attacks? :confused:
Like to see that confirmed...
Anyone?

I have a hunch it is double damage versus air and sea (for ships) and air (for planes)

IIRC, it was done this way in Civ2. Ships in port have a combat penalty against other ships, representing the problems with manuverability one would face. The thing I have trouble understanding is keeping Air units on the move, as they are immobile, and bombers can't do anything but attack and re-base

Sounds great!!

Although I'm sketchy they heard our gripes & went over-kill trying to correct them(privateers??- air/naval bombardment) to name a few.

Also why don't they ever post a new addition over here. This game is for the fanatics!! Let everyone else pick up the scraps.

i think its great making naval units and airplanes take double dmg

when there in port there imobilem and there for sitting ducks for artiliry and bombing runs

but what i would like too know, are the Dutch really a new civ, or is it just a riped of face of Ceasar during 1 scenario?

i mean is it a real civ, with it's own face, traits, and u can play in solo game? (normal game)

Any idea what the large 'Z' and 'A' on the Colossus/ Oracle in the Mesopotamia Tech tree means?



except for about a dozen cookies that GameSpy tried to install on my computer

Yeah, especially the pop-up to sign in the U.S. Army is...interesting. Never saw that on a commercial page:soldier:

My guess is Z for Zeus and A for Artemis.
Maybe the grafics for the Statue of Zeus and the Temple of Artemis aren't ready yet. Or they aren't in the original game and are only for the scenario there were they use the same grafics as the Colossus and teh Oracle.

Originally posted by thestonesfan
Yes you can.

I'm sorry, no, you can not. Ships can't attack cities and if land units take a city whit a ship in port the ship is destroyed. I'll ask again: Is the ability to attack a ship in port gonna be included in Conquest or what??

I believe that Ships and Planes in 'port' will be potential targets (either chosen or random) of a bombing/artillety run. If not, the Pearl Harbor opening of the WWII Pacific Theatre scenario makes no sense.

Originally posted by ChrTh
I believe that Ships and Planes in 'port' will be potential targets (either chosen or random) of a bombing/artillety run. If not, the Pearl Harbor opening of the WWII Pacific Theatre scenario makes no sense.

I guess that makes sense. It's really GameSpy's fault for writing such a poor preview, the sentence: "Aircraft and ships now also take twice as much damage in port, meaning that it's better to be exploring the open seas than "turtling" at home." dosen't really explain anything.

Originally posted by ChrTh
I believe that Ships and Planes in 'port' will be potential targets (either chosen or random) of a bombing/artillety run. If not, the Pearl Harbor opening of the WWII Pacific Theatre scenario makes no sense.

For a realistic WWII Pacific Theatre scenario the fighters and bombers will have to have lethal bombardment on them. Otherwise it could be very quickly game over for the Japanese in this scenario. The Pearl Harbor attack would only redline all the battleships from the US. Big deal, they'll heal and then the the Japanese are screwed.

Will they change the automatic destruction of all ships and aircraft when a city's last defending land unit is destroyed? It's too drastic in my opinion.

I'm just thrilled that I'll be able to airlift workers. Nit picker that I am - I hate that odd remote island that needs fixing up.

Isn't it odd that with Civ III and 2 expansions they finally have all the components of Civ II? Don't get me wrong - I love the new graphics and units and AI but a great deal of these little things (Airfield, worker Airlift) should have been in Civ III. I'd have bought the expansions for the new civs anyway.

Originally posted by Roland Johansen


For a realistic WWII Pacific Theatre scenario the fighters and bombers will have to have lethal bombardment on them. Otherwise it could be very quickly game over for the Japanese in this scenario. The Pearl Harbor attack would only redline all the battleships from the US. Big deal, they'll heal and then the the Japanese are screwed.

Will they change the automatic destruction of all ships and aircraft when a city's last defending land unit is destroyed? It's too drastic in my opinion.

I see your point, and I'm not sure. Perhaps lethal bombardment will be available in the scenario?
The Japanese get the first turn all to theirself, but I don't know if that changes the fundamental problem.

Originally posted by SewerStarFish
I'm just thrilled that I'll be able to airlift workers. Nit picker that I am - I hate that odd remote island that needs fixing up.

Isn't it odd that with Civ III and 2 expansions they finally have all the components of Civ II? Don't get me wrong - I love the new graphics and units and AI but a great deal of these little things (Airfield, worker Airlift) should have been in Civ III. I'd have bought the expansions for the new civs anyway.

No it isn't odd. Its called bad planning, greed, and poor decision making. Happens all to often in games these days. Civ3 had some nice nifty features and made a few improvements over civ2, but it also took out a bunch of things too. The fact that they decided to include them in expansions is no evidence of "doing more work to provide value to the game," but "we didn't have enough time to do all the things we wanted to before and now we are going to give you these features and charge you 3 times as much for a product which we used to be able to do it all in 1."

I'm sick and tired of asking for the ability to airlift workers, and now I'll have to buy an expansion to get it. How many damn lines of code does it take?

Worse, there will probably not be a mac version.

Hellfire, you could have airlifted workers any time. It is ridiculously easy to change this in the editor.

If a player bombards a city that has naval units in it - the naval units or any aircraft in the city are targeted first and damage to them is 2X. This is to prevent your naval units from "turtling" in a city with some land troops and not being a possible target.

Stealth attack is picking the unit in the stack that you want to attack - ie: You can specify an attack on a Carrier with a Submarine even if 10 units are on the same tile as the Carrier.

Good, that is quite cool Jesse! :)

Thanks for the information!

Man! This games keeps looking better and better!

Originally posted by Louis XXIV
.... The thing I have trouble understanding is keeping Air units on the move, as they are immobile, and bombers can't do anything but attack and re-base
You definitely would not want an airbase to come under artillery attack. If you have an airbase you BETTER defend it against enemy bombers (have your fighters on intercept) -- having your aircraft caught on the ground has ALWAYS been a really "bad" thing!

What saddens me is that it seems the same thing doesn't apply to artillery in the game. Artillery duels, anyone?