Considering the Vanilla & PTW Civs, and the 6 rumored/confirmed Civs for Conquests - How do you feel about the Civs that are in the game?

I chose the second option. there were a few Civ's the left out. I was somewhat dismayed to find out that the Normans won't be in the game, I know that the French are in it but I would much prefer that the French be split in two. with the Franks taking up lower France while the Normans take the English Channel

They’re all good!

Excellent choices too!

i go for the seconde one

i like them all, but there could be some better ones like the scotisch or the sioux

Why do you always put the red flag there??

i love it and i don't know how to put it onder my name just like you heli

Check your PM I’ll tell you there... ;)

BTW, if they put the Scottish, then they will probably not put another favored civ and still someone will complain. That's why I am cool with the current choices.

I'd LOVE for the Scots to be in it, for the obvious reason that I'm from Scotland :) Doubt it'll get in even Civ 4 but I'd still love it. Our UU could be the Black Watch or something like that. It would be well cool.

i thought maybe the UU could be a highlander :viking: or someting treats all squares as road (1/3 movement) and have a higher defence than the original sword man that it replaces

I like the Dutch (obviously), the Portuguese, the Maya and Inca.
But I'm not a lover of the new ancient civs Sumeria and Hittites.
Because there was no choice: I liked some and some I don't, I voted for option 2.
I would've prefered the Polynesians, Hebrew (old but still here as Israel), the Khmer or even the Ethiopians or Mali.
I hope one of those 5 gets the last open spot.

I am happy these civs are in (just limit for Sumer though) : but I would have liked Siam or Khmer and Songhai or Abyssinia better.

It seems like we will get Byzantium (according to the first reviews)which is nice but not my favorite choice.

Dont be so sure about any civs, even my beloved Byzantines, other then- the Maya,Inca,Hittites,and Sumerians, and even then, because scenario civs get custom leader head art mabey.....

well my point is, until they say so, we dont know FOR SURE who is in, and who is out

P.S the normans are just vikings who migrated south

The hitties and Sumerians are useless choices for world-map reasons, but maybe that's just me. I would rather have had one of the two big african civs or southeast asian and american civs.

i like the current civ's, but some good ones where left out, like the Dutch. I tought they would make it in PTW

Originally posted by TerraHero
i like the current civ's, but some good ones where left out, like the Dutch. I tought they would make it in PTW

They are in

I like the current, but some that I would also like to see were left out. Guess there will just be a market for mods.

I'd LOVE for the Scots to be in it

But the Scots are in the game. They're the white team. :mischief:

I don't play by Civ. I play by attributes, so it doesn't really matter to me. You could have Martians and Vulcans in it for all I care. I'd play them for their attributes.

I used to pick my civ (in 1 & 2) based on what city names I wanted to use.

I don't really care for the new civs that have been announced. I prefer modern civs over ancient. But regardless of the civs, I'll still be in line for the game! ;)

Excellent choices. Just hope the Hebrews are in!

I am generally ok with the civs that made the cut and will appear in C3C, but I am a little dissapointed to see europe and the middle east so over-represented. Another african or SE asian civ might have been more appropriate.

Then again, who am I to complain. Bring it on!!!

Pardon my lack of knowledge, but what other SE Asia or African civs would we add?

Frankly, I'm excited... my global empire will be even more multi-cultural! HAHAHA! :evil:

Some African civs could be Ancient Ghana, Mali, Asante and Numidia. Asian could be Tibet, Khmer, and if you consider Polinesia "Asian".... These are just of the top of my head. Do a bit of research here or at Apolyton and you will find lots that people have researched.

I hope they put in the Polynesian civ.
As sea-faring and expanionist. And a ocean realated special fighting unit that would give it a distinct advantage in earl period. It could potentially be one of the more unique civilization types especially if it tended to be a scattered island based civilization.

Since we only have one native american civ (Iroquois), I was hoping that they would put in the Sioux, but otherwise I dont really care because Ill be lookin forward to the Conquest scenarios.

I dig 'em,... though I wish the Mayans were init a bit sooner than
the third expansion. The only new civ I'm not too pleased with
is the portugese.... Scotland, Vietnam, the Khmer(!), Sioux, or the
Numidians would have been far more intriguing as far as
cultural di-ver-si-fi-ca-tion goes :D

TBH, I think the choice has been poor

I agree with the Hittites, the Inca and Portuguese.

I do not agree with Sumer, which is already represented by Babylon (check the city list!); I do not agree with the Dutch (we don't need any more European civs, and there are more meritorious candidates! ); I do not agree with the Maya, their only achievement is to have been enigmatic, they don't have an important function on the world map and their impact on history is minimal.

I think the Aztecs should be replaced with Mesoamerica and Babylon should be replaced with Mesopotamia. That way we won't need either the Sumerians nor the Maya; neither would we need the Assyrians, the Akkadians nor the Olmecs. :D

I think I change my mind on this alot, but I think the new civs should be/ have been:

Inca
Hittites
Portugal
Aborigines (for their uniqueness and world map position)
Israel (ancient)
Ethiopia (meaning sub-saharan Africa, not simply Old Abyssinia!)
Scotland :D

and, if there's an eighth, then either the Khmer or the Goths. Actually, I've heard Latin America suggested somewhere as well. I kinda like that too :)

I personally can't stand the having Sumeria, Hittites in the game. Just like the Celts in PTW. My dream list would have been Poland (east Europe is empty), Khemer Empire (SE Asia), Portugal, Israel/Hebrew, Polynesia, Incan Empire, and Ethiopia. Personally I could replace the celts with a real civ that isn't going to clog up Europe, like with the Shonghai. It would be nice removing the 31 civ limit.

I guess I'm unique

I rarely care about space on a world map.

Can someone tell me that some SE civ, say Siam, really contributed more to history than any of these civs in the overcrowded middle east?

Sumer, Babylon, Persia, Ottomans, Egypt, Hittites, Arabs.

Also I feel that Assyria, Byzantine, and Israel are better than some civilization from south-east asia or the nomadic Souix (I think choosing the Iroquois over the Souix was a great move by Firaxis, the Iroquois were a real civilization and, during its golden age, could compete with the best of the time)

Originally posted by civilleader
I personally can't stand the having Sumeria, Hittites in the game. Just like the Celts in PTW. My dream list would have been Poland (east Europe is empty), Khemer Empire (SE Asia), Portugal, Israel/Hebrew, Polynesia, Incan Empire, and Ethiopia. Personally I could replace the celts with a real civ that isn't going to clog up Europe, like with the Shonghai. It would be nice removing the 31 civ limit.

The Celts were a real "civ"; much more so than the Poles! :rolleyes: ;)

Australia and south America are empty! Central Africa is empty; South-East Asia is empty! Eastern Europe, a much smaller area, already has the Russians, the Germans and the Ottomans. :rolleyes: :)

I think that the Civs should have been more location-oriented than "3rd-tier" civilizations.

While I agree with the Inca, and the Dutch, I would have scrapped the other 4 in favor of:

The Khmer
Ethiopia
Mali
Polynesia/Srivijaya/"Indonesia"

The final one would have been either contemporary Australia, or the Hebrews/Israel. If it IS Byzantium, shoot me now.

Those sound like fun civs to play. Portugal? The Hitties? Not so much.

-Ben

Originally posted by civilleader
I personally can't stand the having Sumeria, Hittites in the game. Just like the Celts in PTW. My dream list would have been Poland (east Europe is empty), Khemer Empire (SE Asia), Portugal, Israel/Hebrew, Polynesia, Incan Empire, and Ethiopia. Personally I could replace the celts with a real civ that isn't going to clog up Europe, like with the Shonghai. It would be nice removing the 31 civ limit.

Agree with all choices, except Polynesia. Problem with old, "true" civilizations like Celts is trey are root for many nations and countries which represent civs in the game.

Portugal, Spain, France, Germany, Denmark, Poland (hopefully in c3c) etc. are hardly civilizations, just countries and nations. It's actually good and convenient, as we players can much easier identify with them.

if we just had civilisations, then it would get boring, modern countries are good to have.

anyway..i voted for the second option. i dont think that some of those middle east civs should be in, i never play as any middle east except ottomans (rarely). i would like to see many more improtant civs added to the game. a few people here have wanted for scotland :). they mught not be added, but many people here also dislike the celts, so maybe the celts could be deleted and scotland put in its place :)

I agree with the Incas an that is it. The majority of the remaining civs should be modern ones. here is my list.

Incas
Australia
Argentina
Brazil
Israel(ancient and Modern as one)
Ethiopia
Mali/Ghana

But thats not all folks. some more civs I would like to see added:

Polynesia
Byzantium
Khemer
Canada
Assyria
Tibet
Maya
Souix
Scotland
Dutch
some central Africain civ ( I cant think of any)
Cuba
Sweden
Finland
Texas
California Republic (even though it only existed for a month)
Hittites
Poles
Quebec
Portugul
Inuit
Atlantis
Wales
Ireland
Goths
Venezuela
Columbia
Indonesia

I think that balances everything out quite nicely.

If we all too much civs, we run out of barbarian tribes ;)

need I say what civ I would love to be included ;)

also where is the "most of the civs were ill choosen, and suck" option?

I think its implied Xen.

originally posted by Kyborgi
If we all too much civs, we run out of barbarian tribes;) I didn't include too many barbarian tribes.

Originally posted by SoCalian
I think its implied Xen.

:lol:

edit- good un, the thread needed that option

I don't think that simlie only posts are allowed

I voted for the third option. I think that South America, Southern Africa, and Southeast Asia/South Pacific are really empty. Maybe the could add in two or three African civs and group them together with the Zulu and create an African culture group.

It seems that a lot of people want an Africain culture group.

I'd like it, but I'm to busy defending the might and honor of Byzantium to put major effort behind pushing it....

I don't think yu can say much more about Byzantium to convince anyone, most people have already made up their minds.

I'm with ya Xen on the Bizzy,...

And... if they're not in, I'll just have to add 'em,... change the
Dutch to them and America to the Sioux (if they're not in).

Off do Byzantizzle fo shizzle ma nizzle.

PS I have no idea what I said.

More civs mean more civs i can kill, its truly that simple. as long as i can get at least 16 in a game build up till industrila age then start a World War ill be content.

Originally posted by SoCalian
I don't think yu can say much more about Byzantium to convince anyone, most people have already made up their minds.

I know- but I'm trying to convince the people at Atari to change it if the Byzantines were not part of the prigional plan- considering that they are going to do custum leader head art for scenario only leaders as well, including the Byzantine emperor (hopefully at least), it could not be incredablly hard to just cjange the back ground and cloths once the head animation is complete

Originally posted by SoCalian
But thats not all folks. some more civs I would like to see added:

Polynesia
Byzantium
Khemer
Canada
Assyria
Tibet
Maya
Souix
Scotland
Dutch
some central Africain civ ( I cant think of any)
Cuba
Sweden
Finland
Texas
California Republic (even though it only existed for a month)
Hittites
Poles
Quebec
Portugul
Inuit
Atlantis
Wales
Ireland
Goths
Venezuela
Columbia
Indonesia

I think that balances everything out quite nicely.

Quebec is not a country and never has been. When you say Canada my friend, you are saying all of Canada, Quebec included. Canada is not divisible.

Originally posted by SoCalian
But thats not all folks. some more civs I would like to see added:

Polynesia
Byzantium
Khemer
Canada
Assyria
Tibet
Maya
Souix
Scotland
Dutch
some central Africain civ ( I cant think of any)
Cuba
Sweden
Finland
Texas
California Republic (even though it only existed for a month)
Hittites
Poles
Quebec
Portugul
Inuit
Atlantis
Wales
Ireland
Goths
Venezuela
Columbia
Indonesia

I think that balances everything out quite nicely.

several of those dont qualify as real civs though

Which ones, xen? ;)

Originally posted by calgacus
Which ones, xen? ;) Byantium mabey.;)

Canada
Cuba
Texas
California Republic
Quebec
Atlantis
Venezuela
Columbia
Indonesia


I dont need your anti-Byzantine sass Calgacus, and Socalian :p the Byzantines should be at the top of the list, not just second....:D

really and where was this Byantium at "Dictator":)

Originally posted by Mr. Dictator
really and where was this Byantium at "Dictator":)

what do you mean?

i was talkn to SoCalian.

OHHHHH, it all makes sense now :D

I agree most with the Incas and disagree most with the Sumerians. I agree that Babylon already represents them pretty well. I don't think the civs should be chosen by location, but they should include ones from the different cultures. Just choose the greatest civs from each culture, rather than insignificant ones that are just to make or take space on a world map.

I dont know why they didn't put Israel!!!! They're an ancient civ!!

Originally posted by amirsan
I dont know why they didn't put Israel!!!! They're an ancient civ!!

as so many others that aren't in either ;)

Im all the time beginning to understand better these new civ- choises. Dutch and Portugese are good civilizations becouse they are seafaring and they have their uu from later perioids than antic.

I may be wrong, but I remember reading from some preview that Babylonia would not be in the Conquests. They also said, that they add "8 new civlizations making the total number 31."

Originally posted by Inhalaattori

They also said, that they add "8 new civlizations making the total number 31."

The word is, 7 new civs. :)

Isreal needs to be in!!!

I think we need 7 more Polynesian civs, and the rest can be forgotten.

bah, Byzantium, first and foremost

First Quebec is a nation, and I say a nation not a country because their definitions are diferent

I can not see the problem to include some nations with no country like:

Catalonia
Galiza
Brittany
Basque country
Scotland
Kurdistan

and more, because the game is country oriented.

First Quebec is a nation, and I say a nation not a country because their definitions are diferent

I can not see the problem to include some nations with no country like:

Catalonia
Galiza
Brittany
Basque country
Scotland
Kurdistan

and more, because the game is country oriented and some people we want change this.

PD: Sorry for the mistake with the first post.

and yet when you look at most of those "countries" (more like socio-ethnic groups to me) they have achieved little or nothing other then being differnt from there neighbors....

Originally posted by Xen
and yet when you look at all of those "countries" (more like socio-ethnic groups to me) they have achieved little or nothing other then being differnt from there neighbors....

Excuse me Xen, are you applying that to all of those " "countries" " ?

WHOOPS!, meant most, I'll edit it now...

Where is the poll option "the new civs are all too ancient"

Stop adding civs that are extinct and people arent familiar with, and that have UU in an age with already too many UUs, and the UU wastes your GA.
i hate it i hate it i hate it

Unfortunatlly most modern nations are not civ in thier own right- nations nations who are a seperate political extension of another civ

Here's my newly revised list -

Maorians - Polynesians with cool tattoos. The UU could be tattooed man with a stick in a boat.
Easter Islanders - Made statues, plus, they're polynesians. The UU could be a statue in a boat.
Hawaiians - Their culture has heavily influenced cheezy suburban guys' shirt purchases. Their UU could be a hula-hooper. In a boat, of course.
Pulahuans - Just some more polynesians I made up for good measure. UU? Maybe a boat would make the game more interesting.
Aborigines - Even disregarding all the great monuments and scientific advancements they left behind, their achievements in boomerang throwing alone warrant them as a civ. Is there any doubt the UU would be a guy in a tank throwing boomerangs making those weird noises like in Crocodile Dundee?
Jivaro - Pioneers in head shrinking, they discovered that people die without heads. Their UU could be a topless lady like in the national geographics!! :groucho:
Neanderthals - What, since when is it required that a civ actually was a civilization? The UU could be a dinosaur.
Potatoes - A civ that could fill up Idaho on a world map. The UU would be a red potato.
Dirt - This civ could fill any area of the world map that wasn't yet filled, which is important. A cool UU would be sand.