http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20030821-023351-5102r.htm

Riiiiight....
does this mean we can sue for ownership of the Pyramids, seeing as we built them?

when did the egyptians discover hallucinogenic drugs because this guy must be on them. Why can't the jews sue them because of the whole slavery thing, or is he to wasted to get that through his head?

I can see a counter law suit being filed for "mistreatment during indentured servitude" (as that is more like the ancient egyptian form of slavery, then the colonial America version

maybe this guy will sue god,one of his ancestors got hit on the head by a frog and got sick drinking the red waters when mosses was there

Quote from article
A dean at Egypt's University of Al-Zaqaziq is preparing a lawsuit against "all the Jews of the world," accusing them of stealing gold during the exodus.

Besides the fact that they can't actually find any conclusive evidence of this "exodus", even if proven true it won't prove that the Jews had taken Egyptian treasures. Even if proven true that the Jews had indeed went on this journey and taken treasures, there still isn't a legitimate claim for reparations.

Pfft, just another anti-semitic jerk, trying to drum up support.

he claims to have it on camera:D

Moved to History... to be dissected by the experts...

Another great move by XIII! :p

Well that's the stupidest thing I ever heard. That said...



Originally posted by Sh3kel
Riiiiight....
does this mean we can sue for ownership of the Pyramids, seeing as we built them?

No because you didn't.

Originally posted by Perfection
Pfft, just another anti-semitic jerk, trying to drum up support.

They ARE semitic.

Originally posted by Shadylookin when did the egyptians discover hallucinogenic drugs because this guy must be on them. Why can't the jews sue them because of the whole slavery thing, or is he to wasted to get that through his head?

Yes because suing the Arabs for hardships inflicted on the Jews by a completely different people 6000 years ago makes SO much sense.

Originally posted by PawPaw
he claims to have it on camera

:rotfl:

I don't know if it was that great, I wanted to discuss his actions not the reasons behind them.

This would be completely hilarious, if it wasn't for the fact that it is more likely an expression of a deeply ingrained irrational hatred for anything Jewish. To me, that makes it more disturbing than funny, but since I'm not Jewish, it's probably because I'm not used to it.

Also, I thought that the concept of paying interest was outlawed by Islam ? :confused:

Actually, there is (sort of) precedent for making the Egyptians pay the Jews for the pyramids.
During the Holocaust the Germans sent some Jews to work for their private companies without pay (as opposed to in concentration camps). Recently, they (one of the companies)have paid some of those who worked as slaves a small compensation ($4000 I believe).

On a less serious note, I had to check a couple other articles on the site to make sure this wasn’t some grand trick by the Onion :D.

but those people hadn't been dead for 6000 years:D

And incidentally you'd have to prove the jews built the pyramids as slave.

Which goes against what we do have on the actual builders of the pyramid who, from what we've put together IIRC :

1)Weren't slaves.
2)Weren't jews either.

I believe there was a debate on the topic some time back.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oda Nobunaga
And incidentally you'd have to prove the jews built the pyramids as slave.
I believe there was a debate on the topic some time back. [/QUOTE

remember it well--a long debate:;)

Mostly because I managed to turn it in a debate on how valid the bible was as a source of information, at that :D

But yeah, for those who want to find it, there should be such a debate somewhere around. And if you ignore the side debate on the bible's validity as a historical document, we had a few people relatively knowledgeable where Egypt is concerned telling us about how, in fact, jews did not build the pyramid and neither did slaves :-).

I think the point you've all missed is this: If Israel can "reclaim" land it owned 2000 years ago, why can't Egypt sue for damages the Israelis inflicted an equally ridiculously long time ago?

The Egyptian lawyer doesn't want damages: he wants to score a political point for antiZionism :p

Israel didn't reclaim the lands on legal grounds - the British owned it, and they gave it to the UN, which gave it to the Jews. Israel was much smaller at the time but the Arabs attacked it anyway, and the Jews gained more land in a perfectly legimate war (oxymoron).

Of course, the common Egyptian probably wouldn't know this, and thus you are probably correct anyway, even though you are wrong. :confused:

I'm suprised the Belgians didn't try doing it first (Tommy Franks, anyone?)

CAIRO, Aug. 21 (UPI) -- A dean at Egypt's University of Al-Zaqaziq is preparing a lawsuit against "all the Jews of the world," accusing them of stealing gold during the exodus.

The university's dean of law, Nabil Hilmi, told the Egyptian weekly newspaper Al-Ahram Al-Arabi the Jews during the exodus "stole from the Pharaonic Egyptians gold, jewelry, cooking utensils, silver ornaments, clothing and more ..."

Asked why cooking utensils might have been taken, Hilmi said "... this had been the Jews' twisted way throughout history; they seek to cause a minor problem connected with the needs of everyday life so as to occupy people with these matters and prevent them from pursuing them to get back the stolen gold ..."

Hilmi said the "debt" could be rescheduled over 1,000 years, with the addition of the cumulative interest during that period.

Heaven forbid the Jews take the Egyptans frying pans. Besides the current government of Egypt is not the same as the one the Jews claim to have excaped from. Many Jews come from families that did not make the Exodus. He does not include Christians from the suit even though a lot of Jews converted to Christianity. He does not know what was stolen, or even if anything was stolen.

Well....at least he's going to let them pay it all back over 1000 years....:rolleyes:

I wonder where this guy gets his stuff....seems potent!:beer:

:rotfl: This is hilarious!

Asked why cooking utensils might have been taken, Hilmi said "... this had been the Jews' twisted way throughout history; they seek to cause a minor problem connected with the needs of everyday life so as to occupy people with these matters and prevent them from pursuing them to get back the stolen gold ..."
What a [deleted] :rolleyes:

Well, in this case the Israeli Workers Union should demand Egypt to pay the wages of ~2,000,000* people over 400 years, with interest and adjustment for inflation.

*-2 million because generations change and stuff. So if 600,000 left Egypt, about 2 million of their ancestors lived and worked there for 400 years.

Originally posted by rmsharpe
I'm suprised the Belgians didn't try doing it first (Tommy Franks, anyone?)

I'm afraid you'll have to stop bashing the Belgians - they scrapped their (in)famous extraterritorial genocide law last month under intense American pressure.

The most disturbing thing here is that a University dean is allowed to express such racist views. I can't imagine a dean in a western university who would say such things and won't get kicked out of there a minute later.

Isn't there a statute of limitations on theft?

Edit: How ridiculous is this? Next thing, Turkey should demand compensations from the western world for the sacking of Constantinopole, and Italy should demand reparations from Mongolia...

Originally posted by G-Man
The most disturbing thing here is that a University dean is allowed to express such racist views. I can't imagine a dean in a western university who would say such things and won't get kicked out of there a minute later. I fear that racist laws is not the big issue outside the western world… :ack:

im glad he did this, but only so we can sit here and make fun of him. :lol:

Originally posted by Mopheo
Israel didn't reclaim the lands on legal grounds - the British owned it, and they gave it to the UN, which gave it to the Jews.

No, Although Britain defeated the Turks at the battle of Meggadon, Britain did NOT own that land.

After the Ottoman empire collapsed in 1918, Britain administered that area as a League of Nations mandate. The UN (arguably the successor to the League of Nations) voted for the establishment of a Jewish state.

Originally posted by Mopheo
Israel didn't reclaim the lands on legal grounds - the British owned it, and they gave it to the UN, which gave it to the Jews. Israel was much smaller at the time but the Arabs attacked it anyway, and the Jews gained more land in a perfectly legimate war (oxymoron).

Of course, the common Egyptian probably wouldn't know this, and thus you are probably correct anyway, even though you are wrong. :confused:

:lol:

Yes, thanks Edward for starting this fellow down the road to redemption. No, Mopeo, take this quiet Sunday night, pop down to a bookstore, and fill in those "missing bits" up there, eh?

Does this mean that the egyptians are liable to pay back the nubians they kept as workers?

No they're not. Today's Egyptians are mostly arabs and their ancestors had nothing to do with enslaving the Nubians...

Originally posted by G-Man
The most disturbing thing here is that a University dean is allowed to express such racist views. I can't imagine a dean in a western university who would say such things and won't get kicked out of there a minute later.

You will easily find a lot of racist speaches within western universities. Think about all the crap people said about Islam and muslums after 911, and the crap some say about Black, Jews and Immigrant. So please stop the "We are the only people who care" speach

It's very true. There were many cases of proffesors kicked out for much lesser things, let alone the many laws there are against such things.

the crap some say about Black, Jews and Immigrant.

oh you mean the entire middle east? Islamists and the rest of their ilk.

Not only the islamists, and not all followers of Islam. What you just said Immortal is just as bad as anything they can say - it's primal racism without any sense of discernment between the vocal ones (which we hear a lot) and the less vocals, who might be a minority (or not) but are hardly inexistant.

Anyone who think the entire Middle East is one hotbed of all evils with absolutely nothing good there (Israel being the obvious exception) might do well to start looking in things deeper than a naive surface look.

I wonder if the Circassians can sue the Egyptians for enslaving the Mamelukes.

You are sadly mistaken, I am not saying the middle east should be destroyed, Im not saying the arabs people should be exterminated.

You try to compare my hatred of islamists and them wishing death upon someone, you are an idiot.

You're the one being naive, or do you not listen to what is said about israel in the arab world? Instead you hide behind your fence claiming there is racial tolerance in the middle east. Your stupid if you believe that. Ask any arab on the stree in the middle east whether or not the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is true.

Show me the people in the middle east not shouting "death to israel" show me the people in Syria, lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia that dont want the "zionist agressors" to be pushed back into the sea they came from.

Show me the writers who write stories about cooperation between palestinians and israelis in the holy land. The only articles Ive ever seen were written by Israelis or arabs outside the middle east.

Show me these things and I will have reason to change my opinion.

Until then, I will not.

Well then try this link, you will see a lot of Arabs, still living in the Middle East, who are "pacifists"
http://www.mideastweb.org

This thread is being nudged off-topic. Kindly bring it back on-topic (something about this lawsuit), or it dies. Painfully. :mwaha:

Thanks.

sorry KD, but I have to respond to that site:

Im glad you sent me this link, it shows there are people out there in the mid east who arent detonating in cafes, however some glaring things in the site:

The majority of people in the about us are intellectuals from the arab world, journalists from the arab world, Israeli intellectuals and peace activists and arab-american peace activists. These are not "standard" arab peoples. They represent a tiny minority in the arab world just as they do anywhere else.

The site also has a distinct anti-israeli tone in the "in a nutshell" section of the site.

Thread closed - we don't need another ME thread here...