I understand that in China the civ 3 game was sold with Li ShiMing not Mao. I would like to have Li in my game can anyone with this leader head please help me. I simply would like to get rid of Mao.

PS:
This cant be illigal to share since you would only need plain civ 3 to use Li and that I have.

Originally posted by Hunter
I understand that in China the civ 3 game was sold with Li ShiMing not Mao. I would like to have Li in my game can anyone with this leader head please help me. I simply would like to get rid of Mao.

PS:
This cant be illigal to share since you would only need plain civ 3 to use Li and that I have.

I thought Mao has always been the leader of China in Civ 3 :hmm:

in most of the world yes however I am told that in China Mao was replaced with Li. Apperently Mao was not as well liked.

Hmmm....I'm intrigued...And your right...It wouldn't be piracy...The only civver I know on these forums anywhere near China is Vietcong...At least, that's what it says on his location...

I remember that guy who said that way back. He was, I believe, from China. However, I don't really remember what he was saying exactly, he wouldn't post the files, so we never knew. And some thought he simply meant he re-named the LH. But afaik, there is no proof of the elusive Li, so this might not ever be possible.

There is a possibility of it being illegal, you have agreed to a different NDA than in China, they may have plans for that in the future. But we'll see;).

Perhaps the best way would be to contact Firaxis and ask for the files.

or atleast to confirm the existance of such a leader head.

Wow! If its true and legal, someone better post it here!

Don't know for China, but in Hong Kong, Civ3 was sold with Mao as leader. I am sure, that's where I got mine. But most Civ3 games there were coming straight from the US anyway (for the ones that were not copies).

actually mao is still a hero in china. Maybe it was the taiwanese release, seeings how Mao is the communits leader of china, and communits china and nationalist china were in a civil war for a long time. But I am not sure if the leader was changed because I do not live in taiwan ^ ^;;

that would make sense ShiroKobbure, personally I don't see alot of logic in them having used Mao, he did have a big impact, but I don't think he represents the long history of China at its best. If it were me I would have gone with some Han Dynasty emperor, and probaly would'nt have even made the preferred goverment communism.

well it is this game is made more for westerners. Most of whom dont know any asian leaders other than Mao or Hirohito. Really I am not happy with most of the leaders that civ 3 chose, Joan of Arch?? Gandi? I dont remember them really leading their countries. Also I think Hitler did more in germany than Bismark, although I understand why they choose him, I think they should have made it the holy roman empire and put another leader in charge. Stalin of chorse for the Russians. And emporer Meji for Japan. But now Im just complaining so Im out ^ ^

I can understand Bismark and Tokugawa

Bismark cause Germany to become Germany. I don't think every leader had to have ruled the country (Hannibal never ruled Carthage, and had trouble getting the Carthaginian Senate to send extra troops). Tokugawa united Japan.

The ones I have the most problems with are Cleopatra and Montezuma. Both were responsible for the fall of their empires.

um.... Bismark was the last ruler of the 2nd riech
and Tokugawa issolated Japan, where has Mitsuhito was the first emperor of the new Japanese government, lead Japan durring the civil war between the issolationists and those who wanted to open Japan's borders, the Russo-Japanese war, the Shino-Japanese war and WWI.
And is the roman leader named ceaser?
because that is a title not a name ^ ^;;

Originally posted by ShiroKobbure
[B]um.... Bismark was the last ruler of the 2nd riech

I'd say that was Wilhelm II. Bismarck created a united Germany and fought several successful wars including Denmark, Austria and France. However, Wilhelm II, the emperor of Germany had different ideas about world politics and didn't heed the advice of his chancellor, hence the WW1 as we know it.

And is the roman leader named ceaser? because that is a title not a name ^ ^;;

The roman leader in the game is Gaius Julius Caesar and Caesar is really his name. Word "caesar" became a title after his death.

I wasn't aware that his name was really ceaser

Actually, in Latin, the emperor was called "princeps". I don't think caesar was an honorary title...Only for the famed Gaius Julius Caesar.

Caesar was indeed the adopted titile for the ROman emperors- as "Imperator" was also the name for a victorious general, and "princeps" a political position- but Caesar, a last name which deid out more or less, had a connection to one of ROmes greatest, and had the added bonus of being non taken by a "lesser" position within the government

also, I might add that Lishi Ming, in all likellyness, is just a renamed mao ;)

Originally posted by Louis XXIV
The ones I have the most problems with are Cleopatra and Montezuma. Both were responsible for the fall of their empires.

I have the most problems with Montezuma too - he (pretty much) willingly brought about the end of his empire. Cleopatra on the other hand... she actually tried to save her empire but failed so IMO she is not that bad a choice.

Originally posted by Xen
also, I might add that Lishi Ming, in all likellyness, is just a renamed mao ;)

So very true... :crazyeye:

Cleopatra wasn't really Egyptian (in case that matters ;) )

I think I remembered hearing that it was definately different (he had a beard).

well then, i suppose your going to have to ask XIII if he can smuggle in a copy to singnapore and check if it is, or isnt ;)

Well, she was a Greek-Egyptian. And the empire she ruled was a conquered Egypt, she had no real military victories, and wouldn't be considered one of the best pharaohs. I think Ramese II would have been a batter choice.... I mean come on his name was Ramese the Great, its like the Egyptians were hinting who they wanted civ 3 to represent them.