Ok... this is my second SG, it has a 300x300, non-edited map.

I'll take six-eight players in this one.

1. CaptainCivFreak
2. gunnerxtr
3. Infoman
4. Wizard
5. ??????
6. ??????

If you want to be the 7th or 8th player, you must be at or below the Regent level (this will be training). Because I don't want more than 6 higher players in this one. Monarchs & above are welcome, but if you're already in another SG, we don't really need you.

Note: I did not actually mean this to be a training game, I just don't want people @ the Emperor & Deity level coming and taking over from the people who haven't gotten that high yet...

Parameters:
All world conditions are random except Barbarians (sedentary) and world size... 300x300.

Our civ: Portugal (seafaring, expansionist)

Enemy civs: 13 others; random

Other: All conditions except cultural victory, no respawn AI, ACCEL. PRODUCTION, Cultural conversions on. No elim, (mass) regicide, vp locations, or capture the princess.

Difficulty: Monarch


Edit: I deleted the turn record and the Save file because this SG is going to wait until C3C. All parameters will remain the same.

@CCF:

If it's meant to be TDG, or even a normal Training Game, you might want to mention that in the subject.

Thx

hey i will join if u wanna wait till conquests

Ok... I'll change it to Conquests.

cool, so do you want to play a normal game or a conquest?

Ok... I haven't done as much reading about Conquests as I should have... or do you just mean win by conquest (victory type)?

Go here (http://www.kalikokottage.com/civ3/sullla/CQ.html) to read about Conquests. :)

i meant doing one of the nine? conquests

Nine what?

they are scenarios, C3C comes with 9 new scenarios (conquests)

Ok... I'll take a look (I might not get conquests for several weeks though.)

We'll do #8, Napoleonic Europe, I'll mod it so that we can have a 300x300 map with decent starting position (I'll just basically load the map of the original set of turns into that scenario and save it as a new mod... :D)

ok, so are u from europe?

No... I live in nice... burning hot Phoenix, Arizona, US!

I'll probably get C3C on Tuesday.

I've gotten C3C, but I've changed my mind about the Conquest, I'm just gonna use the C3C editor to roll out a start and play the first couple of turns.

Here are the updated parameters:

All world conditions are random except Barbarians (sedentary) and world size... 300x300.

Our civ: Portugal (seafaring, expansionist)

Enemy civs: 13 others; random

Other: All conditions except cultural victory, no respawn AI, ACCEL. PRODUCTION, Cultural conversions on. No elim, (mass) regicide, vp locations, or capture the princess.

Difficulty: Monarch

Anything I've forgotten???

It seems the other SG I am in has died. I usually play on Regent but would love to move in levels. I do have C3C so that is not a problem. I am currently playing my first C3C solo game on regent.

Welcome aboard! Unless gunnerxtr has C3C yet, you'll be after me, once I post the 1st set of turns ;)

yes i do have my copy of c3c, i also normally play on regent, one question, we will be playing with accel production on or off?

I should probably mention that more often... yes, Accel. Production is on.

Edit: I'll play the turns tonight (just as soon as I finish my homework ;))

EDIT: Please cancel my request to join, I need to to a couple of training games first. Good luck, I will lurk on this game.

4000 BC: Found Lisbon --- Warrior in 3 turns (Accel. Production on) Pop hut get Ceremonial Burial. Bronze Working.

3950: Zzzz

3900: Lisbon --> Warrior --> Warrior

9850: Zzzz

3800: Lisbon builds Warrior --> Granary

3750: Zzzz

3700: Zzzz

3650: Zzzz

3600: Zzzz

3550: Zzzz

3500: Lisbon expands. Pop hut get settler. Lisbon - Barracks --> Settler

3450: Zzzz

3400: Found Oporto

3350: Oporto, Warrior --> Warrior

3300: Lisbon, Settler --> Granary

3250: Oporto, Warrior --> Barracks

3200: Pop hut, get Warrior Code

3150: Zzzz

3100: Zzzz

3050: Found Guimarães --> Warrior

3000: Pop hut, get Mysticism
Oporto, Barracks --> Granary

I played 20 turns, everyone else should take 10 from now on... put this SG in your signatures so we can get more players... we need them :D

>>||Save||<< (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/CCF2-3000BC.SAV)

Hi! I could join, I got C3C today! :D

Although I usually don't play on Monarch, I played quite well in a GOTM on Monarch, but didn't complete...

So, I'll join. :)

Welcome... you'll be after infoman.

sorry i cant take my turns untill the weekend, someone else should take this, question---- monarch difficulty correct?

Yes. This is Monarch... Infoman is up.

Thanks. :D

So I'll take the turns after infoman? OK. :)

I will download the file at lunch and play my 10 turns.

(1)2950BC - zzzzz

IT - Guim->warrior->rax

(2)2900BC - warrior in Guim fortifies, scout pops GH & we get Masonry.

IT - We discover BW->The wheel

(3)2850BC - ZZZZ

IT - Lisbon ->granary->spearman

(4)2800BC - zzzzz

IT - zzzzz

(5)2750BC - zzzzz

IT - Lisbon ->spear->settler

(6)2710BC - scouts move, spear fortifies in Lisbon

IT - Oporto - ->granary->scout

(7)2670BC - Scout pops GH & we get a new city - Lagos, starts warrior in five.

IT - Oporto->scout->scout

(8)2630BC - zzzzz

IT - Oporto->scout->spear
Guim->rax->granary

(9)2590BC - zzzzz

IT - Lisbon->settler->spear

(10)2550BC - spear/settler pair move off NW off Lisbon.


We will get the Wheel in 30, have 46g @ +1gpt, have 4 cities, 3 scouts, & a spear settler pair moving to start next city.


Save - redone (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/CCF-2550 BC.SAV)

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Ok, got it. :)

Are we heading for some special victory, or are we just playing?

Umm... Infoman, the link is invalid. Could you post it again, please?

at previous post. If it does not work let me know.

Still doesn't work. Here you go ||>>Save that I fixed for Infoman<<|| (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/CCF2-2550_BC.SAV)

FYI, the upload system does not like spaces in the file names, so it puts an underscore (_) in instead of a space, the web browser reads a space as %20

No special victory, but I turned off cultural victories.

Ok, got it. I'll play after school today. :)

Ok, I played the turns and here's the turnlog. :):

Preturn: Check everything to get a look on where we are going... No fresh water? :eek: This could be a challenge... Press enter.

IBT: Oporto Spear > settler.

2510BC: :sleep:

IBT: Lagos warrior > worker.

2470BC: :sleep:

IBT: Lisbon spear > settler.

2430BC: Change science to 50%, the Wheel now in 10 @ -1gpt. Pop a hut, get maps.

IBT: These turns really take ages on my slow comp, as the map is so big... Oporto settler > temple.

2390BC: Build Emerita. Pop a hut, maps again.

IBT: Lagos worker > temple.

2350BC: Pop hut, maps again...

IBT: Lisbon settler > scout. We need to explore more.

2310BC: :sleep:

IBT: Guimaraes Granary > spear.

2270BC: Nothing really...

IBT: Lisbon scout > spear.

2230BC: Send scout to scout north. Build Sagres.

IBT: Emerita spear > worker.

2190BC: :sleep:

IBT: Lisbon spear > settler. Whoops, Guim is rioting!

2150BC: Pop hut, and get maps AGAIN! Yay, pop a hut and we get IW! :)

And the save is here: >:D< (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/CCF2_2150_BC.SAV)

I'll play tomorrow (Saturday) to give everyone else a chance to comment.

When you say there is no fresh water, are you being fresh with me??? :lol:

I know, that's kinda corny... :crazyeye: ;) :D

well i think our empire is growing nicely, so here is a screenshot (hopefully):)




http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/ourempire1.JPG

notice the iron on the bottom of the screen, we should prioritize connecting that to our trade network

Yes, the only problem is AFAWK, the nearest rivers are way too far in the East near Lagos...:(

But we'll manage. :)

I've been having computer problems, but I'll be able to play tonight... I'll have the turns done and posted by tomorrow morning.

No problem. :)

I think we should try to get the statue of Zeus, because then we would get all those ancient cavalry units free. :)

is there a source of ivory close by?

Good point... IIRC, no...:(

well that rules the statue of zues out for now i guess

Here are the turns, no screenshot, sorry.

2110 BC: Guim - Spearman > Walls
Emerita - Worker > Walls
Pop hut 25 gold:)

2070: Oporto - Temple > settler
Sagres - spearman > walls
Found Coimbra - start warrior

2030: Research wheel, start Mathematics
Mayans build pyramids
Iroquois build Oracle

1990: Lisbon - settler > walls
Guim - walls > temple
Coimbra - warrior > walls
Pop hut 25 gold:)

1950: Oporto - settler > walls
Sagres: walls > granary

1910: Oporto expands
Emitra - Walls > barracks
Incans build Colossus
Pop hut - Horseback Riding :D:D:D

1870: Lisbon - walls > settler
Coimbra - walls > barracks
Pop hut - Writing :D:D:D:D

1830: Oporto - walls > settler
Pop hut - get spearman :D
Contact Hittites - they have nothing

1790: Zzzz...

1750: Lisbon - settler > temple

||/>>SAVE<<\|| (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/CCF2-1750BC.SAV)

i assume i am up, i can play later tonight, but until then i will allow u guys to speculate on what should my goals be.

so got it

1---- Found Leiria next to iron. Start production of warrior.
Move scouts around.

2----Oporto- settler>spearmen
Lagos- temple>spearmen
Coimbra rax> worker
-Send the Oporto settler north to settle near wines
-Settle Evora (wasnt sure if this was the location that you guys wanted, but i just settled there becasue i figured he was intended to go there)
-Move scouts around

3----Emerita- rax>scout {its a big map we need some more exploration}
Sagres granary->worker
- Pop hut, learn literature YAY!!!

4---- Guimares- worker> settler
Sagres- worker> temple
Coimbra- worker> spearman

5---- Oporto- spearman-> settler
Emerita- scout-> granary
Evora-> warrior-> spearman
-Pop hut- Alemani gives us maps
-Contact France we are more advanced, except she has math.

6---- Leiria- warrior-> spearman
- Mayans build ToA

7---- Learn Mathematics- start research on philosephy due in 9turns
- Lagos- > spearman > worker ( we need to connect the fresh water)
- Coimbra- spearman > temple

8---- Incans build Massolem de Mausolllos

9---- Lisbon - temple > the great library
Guimares settler> spearman
-Settle Braga- next to wines.

10--- Oporto- settler- spearman

Well thats it, sorry if i messed up. But this is my first set of SG turns ever, so forgive me.

this is our water situation

and here is the save:Save (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/CCF2_2150_BC1.SAV)

BTW the save's date is wrong, but I checked and it is the right save (if that makes sense)

I get it exactly, you mean that the name of the save is the wrong date, but it is the correct file, right?

Umm... I forgot to mention that I wanted the settlers to found cities exactly where they were going, so thanks for not screwing it up. j/k

For your first set of turns ever that's really good :goodjob:. I'm assuming that ToA is Temple of Artemis. FYI, you don't need to tell us exactly what units you moved.

We'll have an easy time going though the map, barbarians are sedentary and we're expansionist so we can't pop them from huts. But what's really weird is that Portugal is a Seafaring civ and we should actually start by the coast. It shouldn't have anything to do with the fact that I rolled this map out of the editor to make it 300x300.

I'm guessing that this game will last a lot longer than most others, since the map is so big. Lucky for us I didn't turn on just conquest or domination. Domination would be impossible on a map this size.

We need to spread our scouts out instead of just sending them one direction as I saw Infoman and Wizard did (no offense). If we're to use our traits to their full potential, we need to get some costal cities.

I've just taken a glance at the map in the editor (I didn't look for resources or anything), but we're pretty far from the ocean. I won't say which direction or how far unless asked.

Umm... I won't use that to our advantage as I'd really like to win this without doing that (I kinda consider it cheating).

From my records, Infoman should be up. Then Wizard.

Good luck to the next player. I probably won't be able to play Monday, definitely not Thursday (gotta help with Thanksgiving Dinner ;))

yea thats what i meant, the date's wrong but file's right becasue i overwrote the save

Ok... So I'm up after Infoman?

Looks good, BTW, except for the water...:D

Please skip me this turn. I am in the process of moving and I am going out of town for Thanksgiving. So I will not be able to play until next Saturday at the earliest. Sorry for the incomvienence.

So, It's me next, then...

I'll play tomorrow, I'm in a lazy mood today...:p

alright, game's going good i think guys. lets keep this rolling

That's alright, Infoman. Everyone here is welcome to have a real life. :lol:

Yeah, sure. :)

Hmm... I'm not totally sure if I'll manage to play it today...:(

If I haven't posted it at 8 pm GMT, please skip me.

Captain CF. Those first 10 turns went quick and I can't wait to get back in the rotation. It is odd that we are not close to the coast. I thought that seafaring civs were suppose to start near or on the coast. This will add to the difficulty some.

IIRC it affects so that there is a bigger chance to start near the coast, it doesn't mean you would always start near the shore.

Turnlog:

Preturn: Everything seems nice, although our score isn't the best possible due to our no water- starting place...

IBT: Evora spear, library. Aargh! Seems like I can't continue in this SG, my computer is just too slow, it takes ages to wait the IBT period on this size maps...:cry:

Sorry. I'll have to quit. :( But I'll promise to lurk here, I'll just not play...

The save: :cry: (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/CCF2_1500BC.SAV)

I hope that is the right save...

i was thinking this would be an issue and i for one am not looking forward to the 1hr turns in the future, this is only a suggestion, maybe we should start a game on a huge size map or maybe even smaller.

@gunnerxtr
I suppose that would be alright. I'll roll a new map in the editor and mod it so that we have all the same cities, units, and etc... is all the same, just with a smaller map. I'll try to make the cities the same distance apart, and I'll put the starting locations (to scale) where they were on the original map (if possible, I won't start the Egyptians or someone out in the middle of the ocean... lol)

I just never thought we'd get all the way to the modern era, I usually win in the mid-industrial ages... but on a map this size that'd be a problem.

@wizard
As you see above we'll reroll the map and you can join back up if you want. But until you post again, I'll take you off the turn roster.

@everyone:
I'm wanting to play on a larger map than huge. How about 200x200 (huge being 160x160)?

Edit: We are going to restart the game from here.

Last thing: I am going to restart this game as CCF3 -- C3C Monarch. Here's the link: >:D< (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69913)

to save time and effort, why not just start from scratch all over again, but decision is yours.

As I posted in the new thread. That is what I'm going to do. From now on we all should not post in this thread, but rather the thread for CCF3: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69913

I like it, as I posted in the new thread...:)