Ok, this is an idea I had a loong time ago in the summer time. I will announce it now with conquests out. I dont know if it was attempted but I think its fun.

This game will be a tiny map with max player (18) or a small map. I will design it on the editor.

The catch is that you cannot enter war with ANYONE.

That means NO CONQUEST OR DOMINATION.
-If the AI declares war on you, you must do all you can to get peace as soon as possible.
-You cannot do any war risking actions, like threatening or spy missions.
-Culture is our friend.
-Can we survive in this aggressive world on Demi-God?

This game will require Conquests Expansion to play.
I will edit rules so everyone starts with one settler regardless of difficulty. The difficulty can change to Diety if most want it.

24/48 Rule will be in effect

Roster:
Amirsan:
cgannon64
Lord_all_Mighty
China444
gormdragan


People sign up! Oh and civ choice is pending though I think Babylon is the best pick.

I like to join, but my Conquest arrives next week. Maybe if you can slot me at the end of the roster.

ur in and on the end of roster. :)

I'll join. This looks like a challenge though. Tiny map with 18 civs! That's more than I play with, and I play on Large! :eek:

Also, I assume we can fight defensively, correct? And are we allowed to bombard (bombers, artys, whatever) enemy cities or territory? And are we allowed to pillage their territory?

yeah, but every turn we have to see if we can get peace at any cost, ANY COST. So if we fight back it has to be hard. :)

Why don't we try one of the new civs from C3C?

Sumer might be a good choice. Cheap early defensive unit, Agricultural for food, cheap scientific culture. (just a thought)

Since its called a City state game, I have a question. Are you doing a One City Challenge, or just a really crowded map?

I'd love to play, btw, but not only do I not have C3C, but I'm not that good of a player. I do enjoy crowded games, though.

I'll just be a lurker.

Sumer is a pretty good choice.

No, this wont be OCC, it will just be a very crowded mapo, so maybe atleast 2 cities is possible.

When are you getting C3C? Maybe I can put u on the end of the list as well. :)

Could you set a place for me on that roster?

I surely can! Welcome oh Lord_all_Mighty! :)

edit: all we need is one more player. Is there anyone who would like to play the first turns?

I am in.

The roster is made and there is one spot open for anyone who still wants to jump in!

Welcome china444, you will have fun in SGing.

I am making the map now.

Roster:
Amirsan:
cgannon64
Lord_all_Mighty
China444
gormdragan (still pending C3C)
Open

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/AMC2-4000BC.GIF

The Save! (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/AMC2-4000BC.SAV)

My C3C is in Memphis now....I estimate it should be here in Houston by early next week. Sorry about it ppl.

No problemo gorm, we probably wont even get to u on the roster until then. :)

Well I cant play the save now, later, though before that, no pre-game discussions?

I will move worker to mountain and reveal more land and settler from there sinse the settler is currently on a BG and I dont want to waste that too quick, but yes, it is imperiative that we settle our capitol as soon as possible. Depending on the situation I will build either two warriors and then a settler or a settler right away. I dont think we should spend time on a granary. I will think about it. I think I will start Iron Working sinse we are crowded and probably many have Cem. Burial which is a must, though a second level tech is also a must.

Our goal is to settle atleast 3 cities hopefully, then go straight into culture and annex other cities that way. Sounds good?

@amirsan

Can you explain to me the strange looking tile north of settler start position? And it would be good if you could post the screenshot after the worker is on the mountain. That would do wonders.

that is a new luxury resource in the game called Tropical Fruits. :)

Ok, sorry for not moving the worker, but I cant now, I am not on my computer. I will just move it sinse I am playing later tonight when I play the actual turns, or I might do it now when I can. Unless someone wants to play the save first I will play it in a while. :)

Ah...Tropicana....Yummy. My guess would be that it gives food bonus as well.

Build now. Getting our capital off early will be a great benefit in this land-limited world. Get settlers off as quickly as possible.

I truly think you should build right where you are. It is a great spot.

Correction: it's tobacco, and unfortunately it's not a luxury

It adds one commerce, that's it. BTW, there are no new luxuries.

Amirsan, build now.

*kind of a bump*

OK, posting turns now.

Well the games have actually begun! So turn 1...

Preturn(4000BC): I moved settler SE, I took a risk, but it gave me more BG's which is always good.

Turn 1: The Zululanders settle thier capitol one tile where ours is going. We are neck in neck. I talk to them and they have Warrior Code and Cem. Burial over us and we only have Bronze Working over them. I think they got the extra tech from a goodie hut I saw them take. I give them Bronze Working for Cem Burial and 10g. Ur was built. Instead of starting Iron Working I started Mysticm. We could get it in 19 turns and gain 0gpt or 50 turns and gain 4gpt. I dont know, I put it at minimum for now. Endiku warrior was started.

Turn 2: The Mongols are found with thier wandering scout from the south. I give them Cem. Burial for Warrior Code and 10g. It seems they dont know the Zulus yet sinse they yet to have my techs.

Turn 3: ...

Turn 4: ...

Turn 5: Ur: Enkidu> Settler. Started Exploring. Science back at 100%, Mysticm in 23 turns. Gengis and Shaka(khan) are both polite.

Turn 6: ...

Turn 7: Germany is encountered to the west of us, I dont know if we will get our second city...

Turn 8: Mining Done, accidently started roading, we need shields at the moment, I want to go straight into mining the next BG. One turn wasted, my bus. All nations around me are still stupid.

Turn 9: Ur's population became 2 and will grow to three in 7 turns. I am debating whether to waste 2 turns of shields sinse the settler will only take 5 turns or to start something else now and start settler when the turns meet equally. I decided to start an Enkidu and waste 2 shields instead of 8, unhappiness will be an issue anyways, luxury is raised.

Turn 10: Ur: Enkidu> Settler(8). Everyone's borders around me increases from palace. Luxury decreased. Mine is started.

Turn 11: Borders increased. A green border to our south is found, they are either the Celts or Japan. I also see a tiny bit of an orange border. OMG, there is such a beautiful site to the north east of us, hopefully the Zulus dont grab it....

Turn 12: Nothing. 6 more turns to settler...

Turn 13: Otts are found to the north with Masonry. Nothing more.

Turn 14: Sold CB to Germany for 10 gold and got Masonry from Otts for WC and 52 gold. We are at tech parity. Two turns to growth and 4 turns to settler, no one has thier second city.

Turn 15: Otts have alphabet. I suspect from the pink border right next to them which is the French I think.

Turn 16: Settler done next turn, Ur is pop. three. Mine is finished. Started road this time. It was france, no trade available. Mysticim in 5 turns. Lux increased.

Turn 17: Settler is done!!!!!! Enkidu warrior is started. Moved NorthEast.

Turn 18: Mongolian settler moves for a city.

Turn 19: The site is ours baby!

Turn 20: Moveing...

Turn 21: Enkidu> Enkidu.

Turn 22: Sumer was built! Worker started.

Turn 23: We find Japan. They give us Wheel and 10g for Masonry. We have Mysticm. Mysticm, The Wheel, and Masonry to Zululand for Iron Working. Iron Working and the Wheel to France for Alphabet and 72 Gold. We are at tech parity. Math is started at max science.

Turn 24: Ur: Enkidu> Settler.

Turn 25: Nothing

THE SAVE (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/AMC2-2750BC.SAV)

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/SumerAMC2.GIF


Roster:
Amirsan: Just Played
cgannon64: Up Now!
Lord_all_Mighty: On Deck
China444: In the Hole
gormdragan (still pending C3C)
Open

Cg?

Comeon, lets get this speedy

Excellent work! I may play tonight or tomorrow. Most likely tonight, if my mom keeps her online banking "maintence work" to a minimum.

thanks.

Might I add, check diplo... EVERY TURN.

I have noticed that Science is much slower sinse the AI doesn't have thier free cities, but check anyways.

Playing now. And don't worry, that's already a habit. ;)

Here are my turns:

Everything looks fine. We seem to have parity or a tech lead with everyone. We can probably get a third, maybe even a fourth city if we hurry. :)

[Turn 1 - 2750 BC] Nothing.

[Turn 2 - 2670 BC] Did I mention that this start is amazing? This is OCC-worthy. :D

[Turn 3 - 2630 BC] Worker->Temple in Sumer.

[Turn 4 - 2590 BC] ...

[Turn 5 - 2550 BC] Settler->Enkidu in Ur. I send the stack to a northern spot on a river with Bonus Grassland and Horses.

[Turn 6 - 2510 BC] I raish science a notch, Math in 18.

[Turn 7 - 2470 BC] I am tempted to sneak attack the Zulu. All they have is a warrior...NO! Peaceful city state!

[Turn 8 - 2430 BC] Math in 14.

[Turn 9 - 2390 BC] Enkidu->Worker in Ur.

[Turn 10 - 2350 BC] Spices hooked up. It looks like the Zulu will get the last visible city spot to the NE. Lagash founded to the North, near Istanbul. Russia has Horseback Riding. It usless to try to lower science and trade for it, I'll finish researching Math (10) and try to trade then.

[Turn 11 - 2310 BC] [i]all of which makes me anxious at times unbearably so ...

[Turn 12 - 2270 BC] Worker->Granary in Ur.

[Turn 13 - 2230 BC] ...

[Turn 14 - 2190 BC] ...

[Turn 15 - 2150 BC] ...

[Turn 16 - 2110 BC] ...

[Turn 17 - 2070 BC] ...

[Turn 18 - 2030 BC] Nothing. In case you're wondering, 3 civs are building the Oracle.

[Turn 19 - 1990 BC] I trade Math for Riding the Russians. We start Writing.

[Turn 20 - 1950 BC] Enkidu->Temple in Lagash. And that's the of my turns. No real notes or instructions, I would suggest getting all three cities to have a Temple so we can get a foothold culturally in this cramped map.

THE SAVE (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/AMC2-1950BC.sav)

Got it


Lord what a boring set of turns.

Turn 1: Russians have Writing, no trade possible, Germans building Oracle.

Turn 2: Sumer finishes Temple, switch to Granary

Turn 3: Polytheism now belongs to Russia and France, no trades

Turn 4: Japanese are building Colossus. I switch Ur's granary to a temple, remember we need culture

Turn 5: Ur finishes Temple, I switch to Granary

Turn 6: .......................

Turn 7: Considering it's a fair deal, I buy Writing from France for 79g. I switch research Literature(18 turns). We are left with 21g at +1gpt.

Turn 8: .......................

Turn 9: .......................

Turn 10: .....................

Anyway, as I said not much to report.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/AMC2-1625BC.SAV

Was there any possibility of trading Writing to other civs for another tech, possibly Poly?

No Russia and France were the only ones who held it (or any other techs for that matter).

Besides, if I had that oppurtunity I would have taken it.

You guys are moving really fast. I am not sure if my C3C will arrive by my turn :(

GOT IT

Ill play tonight EST time after my hockey game.

mind if we get a picture?

Sorry I have no idea how to post screens

while you are playing, press the print scr button at the top right of your keyboard.

Then open up paint and press paste and there it is.

So then save it, go to the CFC upload server, upload it, then post it.

If the print scree button doesn't work when u try to paste it then press "shift" on the keyboard when u press Print Scr. :)

Thanks, I'll remember that the next time around :)

Roster:
Amirsan: On Deack
cgannon64: In the Hole
Lord_all_Mighty: Just Played
China444: Up Now!
gormdragan (still pending C3C)
Open

WE NEED ANOTHER PLAYER!!!
China444, play 15 turns, I said everyone plays 15 turns from now and on. :)

Oh and china444, sinse it seems you're kinda new there is a 24/48 rule that most SGs use.

Its where you must post a "got it" within 24 hours of the last game turns posted and you must play and post your turnss within 48 hours.

You will be skipped once you exceed the limit.

This is no rush whatsoever, just to let u know just incase. :)

I checked the Amazon shipping tracking and my C3C will arrive on Monday/Tuesday. So please feel free to skip me if my turn arrives. Sorry Pple.

Skip my turn please,

OK, china444, your skipped, I will play later today.

nvm, I will play tommorrow, I am watching the American Music Awards and dont feel like popping the C3C disk...

If my C3C arrives tomorrow, can I slot in after you?

yeah, I will only be able to play after school around 5:00 Eastern America so if you get it before go ahead and play. :)

actually, I cannot play the turns. I have had a cold for one week and its the last couple of days its been bothering my eyes and giving me a headache, please skip me this time. Sorry.

You go CG.

I will play tomorrow. Or maybe tonight, but probably tomorrow.

Gannon?

I have to drop out of this game. :( Two SGs is too much for me...

well, its the beggining of the end of this game... :(

my C3C is here. I have yet to install it, but I think I am good to go.

THIS IS CLOSED. SORRY, I AM NOW QUITTING THE HOSTING BUSINESS AND STAY STRCTLY TO PLAYING SG's AND NOT MAKING THEM. SORRY

:(

Looked like a good concept.