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Strider
Dec 05, 2003, 07:25 PM
I've got to do a report on John Adams (not John Quincy Adams... John Adams). I was wondering if anyone can give me some information on him?

Eastern Knight
Dec 06, 2003, 04:57 AM
John Adams, 2nd president of America, vice president Thomas Jefferson, born in Massachusetts. First Lady: Abigail Adams. That enough?

Strider
Dec 06, 2003, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by Eastern Knight
John Adams, 2nd president of America, vice president Thomas Jefferson, born in Massachusetts. First Lady: Abigail Adams. That enough?

Should be enough to give me a good start... thanks

MrPresident
Dec 12, 2003, 03:24 PM
Research the "dear Abigail" letters. They are a fascinating read.

Archer 007
Dec 12, 2003, 06:24 PM
Two terms as president.
First president from a politcal party (Federalists)
Only president to have VP from a different party.

Edit: Lincoln's VP was from a "different party".

Abgar
Dec 12, 2003, 08:38 PM
archer actullaly Lincoln and his VP were part of the natoinal union party

SeleucusNicator
Dec 12, 2003, 08:49 PM
Adams only had one term. He was the first one-term president, and thus also the first incumbant to lose an election.

Adams has been greatly overhyped in the past few years, largely due to a book on him which game out a while back and became a best-seller and won many awards. Personally, I don't buy into this new personality cult. Important precedents he may have set, but I don't see anything truely great about his administration.

Archer 007
Dec 12, 2003, 09:14 PM
Oops! 1796-1800, correct?
Wasnt he the first president to live in the White House?
He help keep the US out of the Napoleonic Wars.

SeleucusNicator
Dec 12, 2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by archer_007

Wasnt he the first president to live in the White House?

Yes.

Eastern Knight
Dec 12, 2003, 11:57 PM
Did I mention he was one of the only 2 presidents to have a son as a president too?
John Quincy Adams, 6th.

Xen
Dec 14, 2003, 10:30 AM
http://earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html


John Adams


Adams, a Unitarian, flatly denied the doctrine of eternal damnation. In a letter to Thomas Jefferson, he wrote:


"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"
In his letter to Samuel Miller, 8 July 1820, Adams admitted his unbelief of Protestant Calvinism: "I must acknowledge that I cannot class myself under that denomination."

In his, "A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America" [1787-1788], John Adams wrote:


"The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.

". . . Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind."


an interesting insight into him if I do say so myself

Tom|420
Jan 05, 2004, 03:06 AM
I heard on the news a few months ago, after the the publication of the results of a pool showing Mr. Bush in a bad situation (poor popularity), that he could become the first president to not be reelected for a 2nd term.

Of course the news are not my sole source of information, but I was curious... so John Adams would have been the first to only conduct one term, and Mr. Bush would be the second (according to the pool... no election was held yet of course)?

Archer 007
Jan 05, 2004, 07:56 AM
Nope, Bush wouldn't be the second. There were alot of presidents not to win a second term. Carter, Hoover, Taft, and Bush Sr. to name a few.

Vrylakas
Jan 05, 2004, 12:02 PM
I think Adams was a decent President, but I agree that his greatest accomplishments were really before he became President. He was a "sine qua non" of the American Revolution to be sure.

puglover
Jan 05, 2004, 12:52 PM
The people wanted a war with France, but Adams kept the United States out of it. Thus, he saved us from a major butt kicking.

BorgeoisBuffoon
Jan 05, 2004, 12:54 PM
He died July 4th, 1826, same day as Jefferson. Scary.

puglover
Jan 05, 2004, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by BorgeoisBuffoon
He died July 4th, 1826, same day as Jefferson. Scary.

And even scarier is that they were hated political enemies.

SeleucusNicator
Jan 05, 2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Tom|420

Of course the news are not my sole source of information, but I was curious... so John Adams would have been the first to only conduct one term, and Mr. Bush would be the second (according to the pool... no election was held yet of course)?

Off the top of my head, the following Presidents have served one term or less:

John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Martin Van Buren
William Henry Harrison (30 days)
John Tyler (4 years minus 30 days)
James K. Polk
Zachary Taylor (2 years)
Millard Fillmore (2 years)
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Andrew Johnson (3 years)
Rutherford B. Hayes
James Garfield (6 months)
Chester A. Arthur (3.5 years)
Benjamin Harrison
Waren Harding (3 years)
Herbert Hoover
John F. Kennedy (1000 days)
Gerald Ford (2 years)
James Carter
George H. W. Bush

Strider
Jan 05, 2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by puglover


And even scarier is that they were hated political enemies.

Actually, my report is finished and written, and from my research, they were friends, became hated enemies, and then after both of there political careers ended, they resumed there friendship. Also, they both died on July 4th, Indepedence Day ;).

Archer 007
Jan 05, 2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by SeleucusNicator


Off the top of my head, the following Presidents have served one term or less:

John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Martin Van Buren
William Henry Harrison (30 days)
John Tyler (4 years minus 30 days)
James K. Polk
Zachary Taylor (2 years)
Millard Fillmore (2 years)
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Andrew Johnson (3 years)
Rutherford B. Hayes
James Garfield (6 months)
Chester A. Arthur (3.5 years)
Benjamin Harrison
Waren Harding (3 years)
Herbert Hoover
John F. Kennedy (1000 days)
Gerald Ford (2 years)
James Carter
George H. W. Bush

Many of those died in office or didnt run for a second term though.

SeleucusNicator
Jan 05, 2004, 06:30 PM
Yes. Of them, the following ran for second terms but were defeated:

John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Martin Van Buren
Benjamin Harrison
Herbert Hoover
Gerald Ford
James Carter
George H. W. Bush

Franklin Pierce and Millard Fillmore lost re-nomination campaigns and as such did not run in the general election.

TemporalAnomaly
Dec 18, 2004, 03:34 PM
Alien / Sedition Act?

#1 Person
Dec 18, 2004, 03:45 PM
On the committe that wrote the Declaration Of Independance, and for that matter was a delegate at the Second Contential Congress. Related to Samuel Adams.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams

Lots of good stuff about him

North King
Dec 18, 2004, 04:40 PM
You know, I think that the report in question is done, seeing the date. ;)

TemporalAnomaly
Dec 18, 2004, 04:42 PM
We are historians; sence when did the fact that the subject is dead stop us from debating it?

North King
Dec 18, 2004, 05:20 PM
Well, it is 10 months old...

But anyway, where's the debating?