For a complete listing of the Flags as Leaderheads series, please go to this thread:

Flags as Leaderheads - COMPLETE LIST (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1592959)

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Although it's nothing original (I got this idea from some of the conquests in C3C anyway), I wanted to give this a shot, since I personally enjoy to have flags as leaderheads in my epic games and all...

I put in lots of research in this, and I've been working on these for a while already (actually, making them took me one day, but the research took longer). I tried to make them as historically accurate as possible.

I tried to make them look more like the ones in C3C, that is, getting rid of the dull effects by adding some texture, making them look wavy like flags, etc...

Most of these images come from Flagspot, a GREAT online database for historical and current flags of nations of the world.

There MIGHT be some files with some errors in them, but just let me know. Possible errors might include .pcx files with 16 million colors (might have forgotten or just skipped to do this, but I double checked before posting, so this shouldn't be a problem) and some transparency problems (this shouldn't be a problem neither).

The complete pack is 2.35 mb. I wanted to split them separately, but that just took too much time.

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NOTE: The old ones had transparency issues, so I had to fix them. While doing that, I actually added a few more.

Click here to download version 1.5 of the leaderhead pack (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/leaderheads-flags-spincrus-pack1.5.zip).

The previews for the new ones are on the 3rd page.

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There is also a SECOND INSTALLMENT of these flags, people. Some of you have requested certain flags from me, which have already been made and posted a while back. Here is the link for that thread;

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71322

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America (Colonial/Union Flag)
Arab League
Austria (Republic of)
Byzantine Empire (Late)
China (Imperial Flag, w/ Dragon)
China (Imperial Flag, w/o Dragon)
China (People's Republic of)
England (Coat of Arms of London)
England
France
France (Ancien Regime)
France (Charlemagne's Flag/Holy Roman Empire)
Germany (Third Reich Naval Ensign)
Germany (Prussia)
Germany (Teutonic Order)
Gokturk (Ancient Turkish State)
Greece (Kingdom of)
Greece (Modern)
Greece (Ancient)
India (Early Indian Symbol of Chakra)
India (Modern)
Iran (Early)
Iran (Modern)
Iran (Persia)
Italy (With Fascist Eagle and Fasces)
Italy (Lombardia)
Japan (Rising Sun)
Kenya
NATO
Oman (Sultanate of / Modern)
Rome (SPQR)
Russia (Muscovy)
Russia (USSR)
Russia (Modern)
Saudi Arabia
Swaziland
Turkey (Ottoman Empire)
Turkey (Republic of)
United Nations (UN)

The Union flag / Colonial flag of the USA

France until the revolution / Ancien Regime

The Arab League (notice how the previews go in alphabetical order :))

late Byzantine Empire

USSR (or CCCP, whichever way you like to call it :D)

Charlemagne's flag of France/Holy Roman Empire

Chinese Imperial Flag (w/ Dragon) - This is not really a Chinese flag, but rather the banner of the emperor.

Chinese Imperial Flag (w/o the dragon)

People's Republic of China

England (Coat-of-arms for London, actually, but I thought it looked cool)

England!

Fascist Italy (this is more like what Mussolini came up with; an eagle holding an axe with bundles of sticks surrounding it. A flavor leaderhead alternative for WWII scenarios)

France

Gokturk (one of the first Turkish nations to be founded, having the word "Turk" in it. It also appears in sources as "Kokturk" and "Blue Turks").

Kingdom of Greece (Instead of the presidential coat-of-arms, this actually has a crown in the middle, but the coat of arms looked way too cool instead of the small crown. Oh, the kingdom was founded after Greece declared independence from the Ottomans).

Greece (modern flag, oh I just love this one)

Ancient Greek Symbol (Civ players who've at least seen the hoplite once MUST be familiar with this :P)

Edit: Oh also, this was the only symbol I could find. Ancient Greek city states all had different symbols, but they were out of my reach. Sorry.

Republic of Austria

(note: people, if I have done any mistakes, just let me know in a nice way, but don't flame me for ignorance and stupidity; this is childish)

Early Indian Symbol of Chakra (alternate for ancient age Indian leaderheads)

Early Iranian Flag (Golden sun and the golden sheep - circa 16th century)

Iran

Kenya (for those of you who feel the same about the lack of African civs in the game)

Swaziland (could be applied for any African civ, though. I just found this particular flag to be very beautiful)

India!

Italy/Lombardia!

Muscowy (or is it spelled Muscovy? I've just learned that Muscovy is a duck species, which was NOT what I was looking for. Anyway, this is for Muscowy...)

The Ottoman Empire! (notice the MULTIPOINTED star)

the Republic of Turkey! (pointed down, so that it doesn't look the same with the Ottoman flag. Besides, the star has only 5 points)

EDIT: The crescend in the leaderhead included with C3C is wrong. The Turkish crescend is much more unique than the other Islamic flags around.

NATO!

The United Nations (together with NATO, these are for those of you who plan to make/have made scenarios with these present. Could be good for the Cold War scenario projects out there).

Third Reich (Naval flag, which looks better than the other one, IMHO).

Japan! (the Rising Sun - this is present in C3C, but I made an alternate. It's actually the NAVAL flag, not the main state flag, despite the common misunderstanding).

Sultanate of Oman! (I just love Oman, I HAD to have them in somehow).

Persia! (I'm not really sure about the accuracy of this).

Prussia! (this didn't come out so well, but I think it's better than the C3C version).

ROME!!!

Russia! (i'm not satisfied with this neither)

Saudi Arabia!

The Teutonic Order! (this is the flag of the overlord, whereas the regular Teutonic Order flag is just a black cross over a white background).

Finished! The thread is now open to comments.

Very nice flags:goodjob:

Another great resource is Heraldique européenne (http://www.heraldique-europeenne.org/) where there are symbols of aristocrats and states on Europe. Something like this:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/veneto.jpg

This is Lumbardy on 1848, part of Austrian empire.

Portuguese flag since 1910 (implementation of Republic) until nowadays:

The files:

Rufus: Great! I'll look there right now and try to get out as much as I can.

Raen: I can make era-specific Portuguese flags if you want... There is already one present in C3C's Napoleonic Conquest, which is perfect for the industrial era.

Great flags! :goodjob I think you should make of of Israel though.

Originally posted by SpincruS
Rufus: Great! I'll look there right now and try to get out as much as I can.

Raen: I can make era-specific Portuguese flags if you want... There is already one present in C3C's Napoleonic Conquest, which is perfect for the industrial era.

Yeah Rufus thanks for that site ;)

@SpincruS: Please do I am a newbie in graphics making. Thanks ;)

I made the royalty symbol that was in Rufus site and put a background (sea). The other flags of yours had very good graphics, if you can, do the four era specific of Portugal:) thanks once again ;)

edited: correction: yes napoleonic fits perfectly into industrial era, so more 3 to go :)

The files:

@raen: I already made two Portuguese flags, but I'll have to fix some transparency issues first (I totally forgot to set the last two colors of the palette as transparency colors. I'm an idiot).

While fixing the old files, I actually added a few more. They are all included in the file posted in the first page.

Click here to download version 1.5 of the leaderhead pack (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/leaderheads-flags-spincrus-pack1.5.zip).

The new ones are as follows:

Brazil (I made one for Mexico, too, but can't seem to find it anywhere...)

Germany (Bundesrepublik Deutschland) (Note, that I can do an East Germany [DDR] version of this).

Portugal (just as raen requested - I didn't like the other Portuguese flags I made, so I'm not going to post them yet with this pack).

Israel (just as Gogf requested).

Brazil thanks you... ;)

awesome you saved me a bunch of work! But if there happens to be US state flags...

by the waay, how did you get them to have the wavy look like C3C? I have a california flag but its stiff.

Basically how I do these:


- I get a stiff, dull image of a flag, usually images which look as if they've been assembled on MS Paint or something similar of that sort. More realistic and detailed graphics are always welcome.

- I apply some textures on it which I created.

- If necessary, I play around with some grunge brushes that I've created to give it more of a "random" look.

- With a special filter I have, I make it look wavy.

- I turn the whole thing into a vector, pull it from the sides and all (on PSP8, with the help of the shift and ctrl keys, you can do a lot) to give it a perspective (the best that I could do with the perspective changes, though, IMHO, are the flag of Greece and Charlemagne's Oriflamme).

- I play around with the brightnesses and darknesses of certain bumps and all (with the tool on PSP8).

- I sharpen the parts where the colors intersect with the sharpen tool of PSP8, as well as the logos, if there are any (so that the blurryness that makes it look non-realistic is gone).

- Finally, I play around with the brightness in general.

Originally posted by Ekmek
But if there happens to be US state flags...You want me to do US state flags? I'll do it right away. I'll just open up a new thread then, and call it the "second pack".

:worship: You included the Gok Turks! :worship: :thumbsup:

Originally posted by SpincruS
You want me to do US state flags? I'll do it right away. I'll just open up a new thread then, and call it the "second pack".

I was offering to, but I didnt realize it was such a complicated process. Now I REALLY respect the flags. If you are up to it, then thank you, but no rush.

California would be my real favorite. And I'm sure people want a Confederate flag for a civil war scenario.

thanks

Originally posted by SpincruS
@raen: I already made two Portuguese flags, but I'll have to fix some transparency issues first (I totally forgot to set the last two colors of the palette as transparency colors. I'm an idiot).

Take your time ;) good job with the modern age flag ;)

Originally posted by Mongoloid Cow
:worship: You included the Gok Turks! :worship: :thumbsup: Yep! :) Couldn't find enough on the old Mongoloid/Turkish cows, oh I mean tribes.

I'm also planning to come up with more of the Seljuks, maybe a renewed Ottoman, as well as the Uyghur, Ghaznavids, Akkoyunlu's, and the various Huns... Oh also, the Timurid Empire and Moghul Empire...

More requests, pretty please :cute: :
Imperial Germany (preferably the naval ensign, but the tricolor's okay too)
Imperial Russia (Basically the same as the other but not so vibrant colors and a coat of arms
Spain
Different Historial US flags
Mexico
Argentina
Sweden

Thanks a lot, they all look great!

@jamesjkirk: I had Mexico, I'm so sure about this, but it seems to be lost among the other graphics files. I'll be making another one soon.

Spain, Sweden, Portugal and Denmark were on my list. But the US historical flags are a priority right now.

I made an Imperial Germany flag before (actually the first flag I made was this) but the outcome wasn't as I desired. I guess you mean the red-black-white flag with the naval ensign of a Prussian cross. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Imperial Russia is included with C3C, but I'll come up with one soon.

Argentina is doable.

Imperial Russia w/ the coat-of-arms,

The ones I'm currently working on:

- Civil War Confederation flag (naval ensign, which looks much better)
- Alabama
- Texas
- United States (w/ 50 stars)
- California (hey Ekmek how you doin' :))
- Maryland
- Rhode Island
- Virginia

Any requests are welcome.

Originally posted by SpincruS
Yep! :) Couldn't find enough on the old Mongoloid/Turkish cows, oh I mean tribes.

I'm also planning to come up with more of the Seljuks, maybe a renewed Ottoman, as well as the Uyghur, Ghaznavids, Akkoyunlu's, and the various Huns... Oh also, the Timurid Empire and Moghul Empire...

I suppose you could settle for a Mongolia flag though :D or even an Australian one.

I've just added Mongolia and Australia on my list :)

Oh, also, the Golden Horde!

Oh my lord. These are NICE.

Dare I say it...A***

I made an Imperial Germany flag before (actually the first flag I made was this) but the outcome wasn't as I desired. I guess you mean the red-black-white flag with the naval ensign of a Prussian cross. Correct me if I'm wrong.



Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. I later realized some of those probably came w/ C3C, but I wasn't sure if your flags were "compatible" with those, or if they looked very different ingame

Sweet... :)

Please, could you Spincrus make these flags:
- Imperial Brazil (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/br_emp.html)
- São Paulo (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/br-sp.html
- Rio Grande do Sul (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/br-rs.html)
- Warsaw Pact (couldn't find any flag for it... maybe these badges on a red background? http://images.google.com.br/images?q=warsaw+pact&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=pt-BR)
- European Union (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/eun.html)

The two Brazilian states and flags are for a scenario I'm planning after I finish StrOMod... The basic premise is about a WW3 set on South America. After the ICBM exchange, the Soviets and their allies invade the Brazilian northwest to impede the US to invade Angola and the rest of Africa from there. Meanwhile, troops on US-occupied Amazon launch several tactical nukes on the disembarking troops. Missile exchange follows, making the Amazon Basin into an inland sea of mud. Brazil and Argentina colapse, some states unite in different factions and try to overtake to others...

And the European Union, Warsaw Pact and Imperial Brazil flags would be good for anyone. :)

@Straczynki: Wow, that scenario sounds really interesting. Very original :)

I have made a EU flag already, but was waiting for the other stuff to finish so that I can post them all at once :)

The Warsaw Pact did not have a flag, ever. You can still use my Soviet flag if you want. I might come up with my own design, though.

Thanks! :)

Yes, I know the Warsaw Pact didn't had a flag... That's why I suggested that badge on a red field. :)

Or maybe something like that unnoficial Soviet Army flag, an yellow-outlined red star on a red background...?

Originally posted by SpincruS
Italy/Lombardia!

This is not right italy flag on 1800, but the napoleonic cispadan republic. The right flag (1848-1946) is this, the Tricolore (created for Cispadane Republic and derived by french one) with Savoia casate symbol.

Also it was the flag on fascist period: italian flag with eagle was created for Social Italian Republic, created on 1943 by Mussolini in north Italy against Italian kingdom, collaborator of Allies powers. Fascism was melted on 25 july 1943 and Mussolini arrested, he was liberated by nazi and he created this republic.

I haven't been to this thread for a while (sorry), but thanks you so much for the Israeli one! It's awesome, along with the other ones.

Very good pack. Two years ago I did something similar but this is much better.
Please add various flags for EVERY civ (including Conquests!)
I hope this link can be useful:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/

The Iroquois, Mongols, Vikings, Koreans, Aztecs, Mayans, Incans, Hittites, Babylonians, Sumerians and Celts don't have flags. Also Zimbabwe's flag would be much better for the Zulu.

Mongols - Modern flag of Mongolia or Mongol banner
Vikings - Viking banner or flag of Denmark
Koreans - Modern flag
Aztecs - Mexican flag?
Mayans - Guatemalan flag?
Incans - Flag of Cuzco (rainbow flag) or Peruvian flag
Hittites - I have no clue
Babylonians - I don't know, perhaps Iraq?
Sumerian - I don't know either
Celts - some sort of Celtic design, not the Celtic Cross!
Iroquois - go here (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-iroq.html)

Well there you go.

Nice work, I'm going to use these right away.

Uh oh. Modern Russia's flag has HORIZontal stripes... Red,Blue,White from the bottom up. Your flag seems to have vertical stripes for some odd reason...

And Muscovy? I know some westerners called the empire of Ivan IV that name but I think it's easier and more fair to call that the Moscow Princedom or Dukedom or whatever else because that St.George emblem specifically applies to Moscow city.

hittites could be syrian or georgian or armenian or azerbijani maybe the same for sumer?

@veezed: I know about the Russian flag. It's intentional. It looked better when I rotated it 90 degrees. I don't like this one anyway, I'll make a better one. Muscowy was the official name of the principality.

@Ekmek: seriously man, don't worry about the Hittites. I've got them covered ;)

I have becoming to do advisor and pedia pcx to use it in scenarios. On next week I think that I'll making all.

@SpincruS:
If you give us your texture and filter, we can help you. Think about it! :D

On the Portuguese flag, what about this...
Ancient era: Dom Henrique's banner, a blue cross on an white field. It's the country's most ancient flag - http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/pt-1143.html
Medieval era: The banner-of-arms of the Portuguese shield - http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/pt-1485.html
Industrial age: Either the one in the Napoleonic conquest, or the blue-white bicolour - http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/pt_1830.html
Modern era: The red-green bicolour.

Hey, what can I do, I love flags... :)

It'd be great to have Ancient, Middle, Indust, and Modern age versions for each flags like Stro had. For some civs this would be hard but I think it's possible.

For America per say:
Ancient - Blue square in upper-left, red cross
Middle - 13 stars (one you have)
Industrial - 14-48 stars
Modern - 50 stars

Byzantines -
Ancient - Some ancient Greek banner
Middle - Byzantine flag
Industrial - Istanbul flag?
Modern - Modern Istanbul flag or flag of Bulgaria or something like that

Iroquois -
Ancient - Feathers
Middle - Iroquois flag
Industrial - previous flag but with stars or stripes for how many tribes in the confederacy
Modern - an evolved form of the Industrial

Vikings -
Ancient - some banner
Middle - old old Denmark
Industrial - Denmark
Modern - Norway

Celts -
Ancient - some banner/design
Middle - Irish kingdom/province or Wales
Industrial - Scotland or British Ireland
Modern - Ireland

etc. etc. Start coming up with lists..

For the US flag... Why not making the rattlesnake flag (the "Don't tread on me" one) for the Medieval era?

I was thinging of using that for the Ancient era because if you think about it.. the colonies were pre-industrial so that leaves them as middle aged.

I see... :)

Byzantines:

Ancient: Double headed eagle.
Middle: One you made with the St. Georges crosses on it.
Industrial: A Greek flag.
Modern: Make one yourself; get a red background and add the double headed eagle, in its two claws instead of a sword and royal orb add a hammer in one hand and a sickle in the other. That gives you the Byzantine Peoples Republic.

Originally posted by Rufus T.Firefly
I have becoming to do advisor and pedia pcx to use it in scenarios. On next week I think that I'll making all.

@SpincruS:
If you give us your texture and filter, we can help you. Think about it! :D
(Sorry guys couldn't attend the forums the past few days)

Yeah, it's basicly Xenofex 1.0's "Flag" filter. The texture itself can be anything with random stripes on it. The easiest one to use (and the first one I used) is a grass texture, but that didn't give the right effect, IMO.

Emperor Xerxes: The Byzantines flags can be just like the Greeks but red. Also branching off this idea.. the Iroquois modern flag could possibly be the Canadian flag but blue rather than red.

This morning since I had Saturday School (4 hours of doing nothing) I decided to come up with a list for every civilization including the flag for Ancient, Middle, Industrial, and Modern ages. It's incomplete but I have completed the entire row for a few civs.. this is what I have for those certain ones.

America:
A- Snake flag
M- Colonial flag (13 stars) (made by SprincruS)
I- 1867-77 flag (37 stars)
M- Current flag (50 stars)

Austria:
A- Yellow/black/white flag
B- Red/white/red flag
C- Red/white/red / red/white/green flag (Austro-Hungary)
D- Red/white/red w/coat (made by SprincruS)

Byzantines:
A- Red flag with white couped cross
B- St, George's cross flag (made by SprincruS)
C- Paleoleague Orthodox cross on red flag
D- Byzantine double-headed eagle over red flag

China:
A- Imperial flag w/no dragon (made by SprincruS)
B- Imperial flag w/dragon (made by SprincruS)
C- Republic of China flag/Current Taiwan
D- People's Republic of China (made by SprincruS)

England:
A- St. George's Cross (made by SprincruS)
B- St. George's Cross w/coat (made by SprincruS)
C- British Commonwealth flag? (made by Firaxis)
D- Union Jack (made already?)

Germany:
A- Some sort of Germanic symbol, any ideas?
B- Teutonic Order flag (made by SprincruS)
C- Nazi Germany [naval] (made by SprincruS)
D- DDR of Germany (made by SprincruS)

Greece:
A- Shield symbol (made by SprincruS)
B- Blue flag with white cross
C- Flag w/coat (made by SprincruS)
D- Current flag (made by SprincruS?)

Rome:
A- SPQR flag (made by SprincruS)
B- HRE flag (made by SprincruS?)
C- Italy w/coat (made by SprincruS)
D - Current Italy

Vikings:
A- Some sort of symbol
B- Another symbol
C- Denmark
D- Norway

Well there's some for you guys. For a lot of these flags we will have to create by ourselves because flags weren't really used until the 1600's. The only people to really carry flags before then were the Scythians, Huns, and other Turkic tribes.. and those flags were rather differating and extremely simplistic with symbols of animals, stars, etc.

Originally posted by Mobilize

Rome:
A- SPQR flag (made by SprincruS)
B- HRE flag (made by SprincruS?)
C- Italy w/coat (made by SprincruS)
D - Current Italy



B - What is HRE? On middle ages italy was not a country, but it was divided on communs, like Florence, Venice, Genua etc. You can use Venice Republic flag or Florence one.
C - If you tell about tricolore with eagle, not. The country flag was tricolore with Savoye arm, like the one I have already posted.

Originally posted by Mobilize
England:
C- British Commonwealth flag? (made by Firaxis)Commonwealth? Why not the pre-1801 UJ? http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/g/gb-1606.gif

Germany:
A- Some sort of Germanic symbol, any ideas?All I can think off is the Holy Roman Emperor's standart: http://crwflags.com/fotw/flags/de_roman.html

C- Nazi Germany [naval] (made by SprincruS)Why not the II Reich naval ensign? http://crwflags.com/fotw/flags/de1871~w.html

D- DDR of Germany (made by SprincruS)DDR? He did the DBR's state flag. West, not East. :)

Vikings:
A- Some sort of symbolMaybe this one? http://crwflags.com/fotw/flags/no-raven.html

Originally posted by Rufus T.Firefly
B - What is HRE? Holy Roman Empire.

:D While I am working on the scenario: My Vietnam - I had decided to remov animated leaders from the file - as their addition sent the scenario over 150MB. I decided to go back to unanimated flags. These were completed some time ago, but I do find the additional work you have done to be highly effective - in particular, the wave affect.

Since USSR and China are done, I wonder if you might consider a few additions. These, namely, Democratic Republic of Vietnam and Republic of Vietnam aka North and South Vietnam respectively. And The Royal Khmer government, Khmer Rouge, Royal Lao government, and Lao Patriotic Front, and, finally, Thailand.

In case you are agreeable, I have attached sample flags...

Originally posted by Straczynski
On the Portuguese flag, what about this...
Ancient era: Dom Henrique's banner, a blue cross on an white field. It's the country's most ancient flag - http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/pt-1143.html
Medieval era: The banner-of-arms of the Portuguese shield - http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/pt-1485.html
Industrial age: Either the one in the Napoleonic conquest, or the blue-white bicolour - http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/pt_1830.html
Modern era: The red-green bicolour.

Hey, what can I do, I love flags... :)

I agree with your choices, makes sense ;) I love flags too, and I think Brasilian and Portuguese actual flags are a piece of art ;)

I love these flags and they look real cool with that wavy effect. Thanks to them, it's sooooo much easier to add a new civ now without all the headaches of animated leaderhead files. Many thanks :goodjob:

Originally posted by Straczynski
Holy Roman Empire.

Oh, ok. The Holy Roman Empire was more german than italian, so I think that is not so appropriated. Barbarossa can't have predominion over italian cities, and the Lumbardy league defeat the emperor on his italian campaigns. So, on meddle ages Italy was not a nation and its condition reamined untill 1861, with the proclamation of Italian kingdom (remember Metternich: "Italy is only a geographical expression). An alternative maybe the Papal state, the oldest italian state.

Originally posted by SpincruS

- Civil War Confederation flag (naval ensign, which looks much better)

Why don't you just use the Battle Flag? Its what it is famous for.

- Alabama
- Texas
- United States (w/ 50 stars)
- California (hey Ekmek how you doin' :))
- Maryland
- Rhode Island
- Virginia

Any requests are welcome.

How about Pennsylvania (if you need a picture of it, let me know).

Why don't you just use the Battle Flag? Its what it is famous for.

I say it's better to use the Stars and Bars since it was the first national flag of the Confederate States of America.

@Mobilize - The Union Jack for UK and the Rep. of China have been done by Firaxis, too.

@Everyone: For other minor flags, such as a white cross over a red background or a blue cross over a white background, recycle the Denmark and Finland flags I've done :)


Here's my to-do list on flags (it's very crude, I just add lines everytime someone comes up with an idea, so that I don't miss them while making flags and such):

Golden Horde
Seljuks
Ottomans
Huns
Timurid Empire
Moghul Empire
Mongolia
Republic of China (NOT people's republic)
America - Snake flag
America - Industrial Age Flag
Austria - Yellow/black/white
Austria - Red/white/red
Austria - Red/white/green
Byzantines - Red flag with white cross (flag for Denmark)
Byzantines - Paleoleague Orthodox cross on red
Byzantine - double headed eagle over red
Germany - DDR
Rome - Current Italy
Rome - Veneto
North Vietnam
South Vietnam
Thailand
Royal Khmer Govnt.
Khmer Rouge
ROyal Lao govnt.
Lao Patriotic Front (see 10Seven's post for the attachment)
Reconsider Straczynski's Portuguese flags
Pennsylvania

Originally posted by SpincruS
Habsburg Dynasty (excluding Spain) / Austria-Hungary

Austria-Hungary's Flag sure did not look like today's flag of the Republic of Austria, the one you have chosen to represent the Habsburg Dynasty.

So I would recommend either removing the Eagle or replacing it.
The correct eagle looks entirely differen: http://cs1.mcm.edu/~gshan/aeag.gif

Grave mistake there!

OK TheLastKnight; I'm half Austrian, lived in Vienna for years. I know that it's not the Habsburg flag as much as you do. The reason I did it that way was to make it usable for all eras of Austria.

I would like to remind you that I was doing the flags for another purpose in the beginning, and just wanted to share them to the public afterwards. I didn't have era-specific flags in mind, since I just wanted to be quickly done with flags that would maybe represent all eras.

The current Bundesgesetz used in my flag is that of Austria, and the two headed eagle would sure be the coat of arms of the Habsburgs. True, but if I did that, I should also have replaced one of the red stripes with green, symbolizing Hungary.

http://flagspot.net/images/a/ah-aust.gif

@SprincruS: "Byzantines - Red flag with white cross (flag for Denmark)"

No, no, no. A couped cross has an 'x' through it. One of the Byzantine flags was a red background with a couped cross and the letter P on the top. The P doesn't stand for Paleoleague because in the Greek alphabet P is the 'r' sound. Here's a link.

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/g/gr_byz04.gif

@Rufus: I know the HRE was more German than Italian, however the civilization is Rome and Holy Roman Empire has the word Roman in it thus it is more of a Roman flag. Get what I'm saying.. it's more of an alternative history solution to this. But a flag of Venice or another Italian state or perhaps the Papacy would be another good choice for the flag. I was just continuing with the Rome idea.

Spin. The addition of North and South Vietnam, etc, to your list is much appreciated :)

Many history books I've read that has the Holy Roman Empire usually mention the fact that it pretty much wasn't Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire :D

But still, it has the name. Isn't the eagle a symbol of Rome anyways?

The Holy Roman Empire still has nothing to do with Rome. I can't imagine what was in the minds of its creators when they named it, but it was more German states than anything else.

The only thing that made it Holy was that it was Catholic. The only thing that made it Roman was that it had connections with the Pope. And the only thing that made it an Empire was the title.

Still, it's a nice flag for Medieval Rome. :rolleyes:

Did someone say "Medieval Rome"? :cool:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/it_rome.html
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/va_hist.html

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
The Holy Roman Empire still has nothing to do with Rome. I can't imagine what was in the minds of its creators when they named it, but it was more German states than anything else.

The only thing that made it Holy was that it was Catholic. The only thing that made it Roman was that it had connections with the Pope. And the only thing that made it an Empire was the title.

Holy Roman Empire was named:
1) Holy: because the Emperor derived his right from Pope, and so from God. This signify that Pope can revoke his right and emperor fall.
2) Roman: emperor named him as heir of roman emperor and used his laws as laws, so he had historical right to command other german princes.
3) Empire: Germany was not a united country, but a federation of principates and emperor was eletted on "dieta" (a institution similar to papal conclave). So, emperor was conditioned by other princes, which ever seen to steal his power. This is the cause because emperor wanted to enforce his istitution with the creation of HRE.

Spincrus:

I would like to remind you that I was doing the flags for another purpose in the beginning, and just wanted to share them to the public afterwards. I didn't have era-specific flags in mind, since I just wanted to be quickly done with flags that would maybe represent all eras.

The current Bundesgesetz used in my flag is that of Austria, and the two headed eagle would sure be the coat of arms of the Habsburgs. True, but if I did that, I should also have replaced one of the red stripes with green, symbolizing Hungary.

First:
If you do not have era specific flags in mind, then why not choose the flag without any eagle overlay? If it weren't for Austria's past and the Habsburg's Dynasty, the red-white-red [flag] probably would not even show up in your listing.
Why? Because the first and second Republic of Austria are relatively unimportant for _world history_ (1919-1938, 1945 onwards). So forget that stupid Republican flag you have chosen, even in Austria most people don't like using this version.

Second:
You have to bear in mind that the eagle used in your flag is a symbol for the republic and only the Republic of Austria. Hammer & Scythe - which are basically the symbols of socialism; officially of course they represent the newfound "freedom" of the workers - take the place of monarchist Symbols such as Scepter and Crown. Confusing the two is a grave mistake, since the Habsburg Dynasty and the Republic of Austria are two things not to be mixed up. And as a matter of fact, the Republic of Austria is anything but proud of its (more) noble past; therefore it is only fair not to disgrace the past itself by symbolizing it with an ugly republican eagle.

Third:
It is the Monarchy of Austria under the leadership of the Habsburg Dynasty which has defined European history at the side of Germany, France and England. What you fail to recognize is that the Double Monarchy of Austria-Hungary you keep mentioning only existed from 1867-1919. Considering that Austria was in the hands of the Habsburg family for over 600 years, this is only a very small period of time. And rest assured, Austria was neither small nor unimportant in the centuries before.
On the contrary, Austria-Hungary is far from representing the peak of Habsburg's influence and power in Europe it has had in earlier times.


This leaves us two options:
a.) If you want to represent "Austria", then choose the red-white-red flag excluding any eagle. With over 1000 years of age, this one also belongs to the oldest in history. A good solution.

b.) If you want to represent "Austria under the Habsburg Dynasty", it is best to choose the flag you have posted in your latest reply (or a high quality version of it). Austria-Hungary is not important enough to be taken into account here and can therefore be neglected.

What you may not do is to take a Republican Eagle and add the description "Austria under the Habsburg Dynasty". Hell, it is even a shame to speak about the two in one breath. Btw., I'm Austrian, and as you might read from my signature, I am very in that matter. So you can safely assume that my words reflect the truth.

That really looks great and I wanna use these flags in a game instead of actual faces.

But HOW DO I set these pics as Leader heads in a biq file ????
Do i have to change entries in Pedia Icons ? And if yes what entries do I change exactly ? I'm lost...

Please help me get full pleasure from this.

Thanks a lot !!

TheLastKnight;

1. Did I ever say Austria was unimportant? How could I? I'm half Austrian myself.

2. Did I ever say Austria-Hungary was the only one? The only reason I keep on mentioning that is because some people have been requesting Napoleonic era flags from me.

3. I guess you think I am really ill informed and stupid on this flag issue. Well don't deny it, that's what I understand from your post.


Now, I bid you to watch your language here:
- "Hell, it is even a shame to speak about the two in one breath."

Did you think it in this way: I desperately needed an Austrian flag for myself and the only one that I could find was the republican eagle that I have on my Austrian passport that I carry with great pride. I called it a Habsburg dynasty flag as a mistake, because that was actually my intention of using that flag in my own scenario.

As I said in my last post, I have done them for my own pleasure and accuracy was not in my mind when I first made them, and shared them all together. I didn't do enough research and already had an Austrian flag saved on my computer (with the republican eagle), so I said "what the hell" and used it. Let me remind you for a millionth time; I did them for myself, and shared them to the public thinking that people might enjoy it after all.

If you look at the post, it was 5 AM or so when I posted the files all together.

However, if you have EVER visited my second thread, then you'd understand that I am more careful about accuracy now.

When you start saying that it's a "grave mistake" and flame me with similar stuff on your second post, then things start to get ugly my friend.


- "And as a matter of fact, the Republic of Austria is anything but proud of its (more) noble past; therefore it is only fair not to disgrace the past itself by symbolizing it with an ugly republican eagle."

Remember, I'm half Austrian half Turkish; two nations which are extremely proud of their pasts. I'm not only patriotic, but I also agree with what you mean. I would be sensitive, too, but would choose my wording accordingly.


It is not because I don't believe you, but you think calling it a "grave mistake" and then flaming me for doing a mistake at 5 a.m will "fix Austria's reputation" or something? Cut me some slack here, I'm on my finals week... Geez...

It's not really easy to work with so many flags, and I would appreciate some understanding here. I always hated to say this, but if it's that easy, why don't you do it yourself?



Oh let me mention one more thing: I have an early Karl V era tapestry with the Habsburg coat-of-arms on it, hanging on my wall back home, in Istanbul.

The origins of the holy roman empire go back to Charlemagne who was crowned king of the romans by the pope in 800. After his death his three sons split the empire. the eastern german half kept the holy roman title even as Otto I only ruled the german states. This was also the first reich. IRC

Originally posted by SpincruS

It is not because I don't believe you, but you think calling it a "grave mistake" and then flaming me for doing a mistake at 5 a.m will "fix Austria's reputation" or something? Cut me some slack here, I'm on my finals week... Geez...
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Ok, My tone might have been a bit harsh. Sorry for that. Nontheless did you create the impression on me (in your reply) that it would be "ok to have the republican flag in the game" since "it is usable for all eras of Austria." [which is wrong, as explained beforehand]. This is why your assumption "
I guess you think I am really ill informed and stupid on this flag issue" is true. Frankly, I did think that because your reply made me to do so! Reading your latest posted I still don't know why you claimed this and whether you are sticking to this opinion or not. Confusing that is.
Btw., I wouldn't count 1967 A.D. and onwards as "Napoleonic Era."

I agree that you would have no obligation to change any flag if I requested this. Rest assured I do not; what I tried was to point out your mistake in my first post, believing that it is in a mod maker's interest to critizise his work and thus giving him the possibility to improve it. How could I have been aware that you are informed and the flag mistake was only an accident anyway? After all, it is the facts that count. If someone makes a mistake, is being corrected by another person and still claims that he is right afterwards, the other guy has to assume that someone is all too confident in his (lack of) knowledge, be it either the other person or oneself. In this case, I could safely rule the possibility of "-myself" out for reasons I don't want to explain. Let's just say that, as for Austrian history, I know what I know.

Also, I didn't mean to insult you by calling this a grave mistake - the wording I chose in that post is based on my personal opinion and attitude towards the issue. And please correct me if you feel different about this, but: My first Posting in this thread did not contain any flame, did it?
If only you had set things clear in your reply...

-The Last Knight

This is the right Italian kingdom flag (1848-1946)
[EDIT:] I have found a picture with crown over the arm:now I'm remaking.

Preview:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/itsavoia.jpg


File:

Nice Rufus. :goodjob:

Originally posted by SpincruS
Muscowy (or is it spelled Muscovy? I've just learned that Muscovy is a duck species, which was NOT what I was looking for. Anyway, this is for Muscowy...)

In answer to your question, It was Moskovy. Moskovy was the original name of the city-state which is now Moscow (pronounced Moskva in Russian). All of Russia began from Moskovy.

Good job on your flags by the way.

Yuurei.


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SpincruS, do you take requests for similar flags as leaderheads?

I´d only need two - UK (union jack) and Argentinia (light blue/white/light blue horizontal tripes).

I just skimmed thought the thread and saw England, but not the UK, and not Argentinia.

That would help me a lot :)

There's an Union Jack on Spincrus' other flag thread, I guess.

Well, if I didn´t miss it there´s only an Australian flag (which has a little union jack in the corner)? However, there´s a flag of Argentinia I didn´t saw before, which helps me a lot :)

For the union jack I could use the Commonwealth flag of C3C´s pacific conquest (a union jack with a crown in the centre).

Good job on those flags, SpincruS :)

Great Rufus! I'm happy that the plug-in worked for you man :)

BeBro, I first didn't do the union jack for Britain, as it was included in C3C. The second thread is supposed to have one, though.

The second thread also has an Argentinian flag, along with other South American flags...

Is there a list of images of all the flags?

Or just a pack that replaces all the standard Civ Leaderheads? (Conquest leaders)

I love these flags, must more than the animated leaders. I am using india flags and really like them.

I found a possible bug. It may just be my computer, but i get a game crash when I conduct diplomacy with india where the ancient india flc is shown.

I don't get an error message, the game just crashes. Replacing the ancient india flc with the modern india flag you made allows the game to continue normally.

I disagree with you

I sense some anger in your dreamlish. Don't worry.. be happy.

I like these flags more than leaderheads as well.

;)

Excellent! You think you could come out with a WWI and WWII pack?;)

That'd be great. A lot of WWII is already done.

Eh.. can I make these leaderheads with Adobe Photoshop 7.0? If so tell me how because I could pump these babies out like a factory. ;)

If you can put it in the leaderhead large pcx file format, It'll be real easy to put into flic using PSP anim shop. If you dont have the anim shop post the pcx's and I'll put them into flics for you.

Great, that sounds like a plan. I don't have PSP anim shop so I'll do as you said. I'll start doing so right now. Thanks :)

Eh.. where do you find good flags?

You think you could make this flag?
http://flagspot.net/flags/de1871~w.html

The 1903 to 1919 one that is.:crazyeye:

I had been out of town, people, sorry for not answering. I don't have that much free time nowadays, but I'm keeping a list of all requests.

I like this idea as well. Thanks SpincruS for doing this.

If you are still flagging;) I could use a Poland flag. Some samples are here:

http://republika.pl/akromer/flagi_chor.html

these... are BEAUTIFUL! how did you make these? (especially the saudi flag, its got all that writing in arabic)

How about a Canadian flag?

Why there is no Serbia?
Serbia!!Serbia!!!Serbia!!!!

http://www.3dflags.com/assets/XV21AE/gif/2/y/3dflagsdotcom_yugos_2fawl.gif

I am taking requests again.

Please post your requests on this thread;

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76774

For this, you need to use another graphic for the small icons in diplomacy. They have added this with PTW I think, but it caused me problems, too. You can make smaller versions of the PCX files. I guess they have to be 20x20 size or maybe even smaller. Don't really recall. Have to check.

Originally posted by DS_CL
I love these flags, must more than the animated leaders. I am using india flags and really like them.

I found a possible bug. It may just be my computer, but i get a game crash when I conduct diplomacy with india where the ancient india flc is shown.

I don't get an error message, the game just crashes. Replacing the ancient india flc with the modern india flag you made allows the game to continue normally.

Thanx Spincrus for your flags ! :goodjob:

I've created a WW1 scenario and people requested me to change leaderheads with your flags :). The thing is that I would need 10 more flags to make it possible. So forget about it. :)

However, as a French girl :D, I would like a better French flag (you know how we are with our tricolore flag :p). Would you be so kind to make a French flag like the one below ? That would looks a lot prettier ! :cool:

I've actually just rotate your flag a bit because I didn't like the "straight" effect. However, I'm not fully glad of the one about. A bit less white in the center would be better to me.

Did anyone ever make a Viking flag set? That would be nice. I believe I saw a crow flag on a Viking history show. I think it was for the Danish Vikings. Not sure. Still looks cool, though.

Originally posted by Marla_Singer
Thanx Spincrus for your flags ! :goodjob:

I've created a WW1 scenario and people requested me to change leaderheads with your flags :). The thing is that I would need 10 more flags to make it possible. So forget about it. :)

However, as a French girl :D, I would like a better French flag (you know how we are with our tricolore flag :p). Would you be so kind to make a French flag like the one below ? That would looks a lot prettier ! :cool:

I've actually just rotate your flag a bit because I didn't like the "straight" effect. However, I'm not fully glad of the one about. A bit less white in the center would be better to me. Thank you :)

I will try to come up with better versions for France, Austria and Russia. There might be a couple more which I have to play around with.

Originally posted by A Viking Yeti
Did anyone ever make a Viking flag set? That would be nice. I believe I saw a crow flag on a Viking history show. I think it was for the Danish Vikings. Not sure. Still looks cool, though. Hmm why don't you put it up as a request on my request thread? I'll look into it. There is a modern age Scandinavian set, though, if you're interested.

(The server slowed down, this happened, that happened, etc, etc, and I double posted...)

hey how can i make a flag or a leader head?

Originally posted by Rolo Master
hey how can i make a flag or a leader head? It's explained in detail within this thread. You can also find it in the Tutorials forum.

Is there going to be pack 3?

There is

There is

Sorry that it was a double post

when is the next pack to come?

I am sort of loathe to post this as its my first attempt at making graphics from scratch. I've searched the forums high and low though and havent found any scotland flags though so ill put it up till someone makes a better one. Dosen't look TOO bad in game. Files are in next post.

Includes
scotland_large
scotland_small
race scotland_large
race scotland_small
scotland_all

scotland

venice

venice pack

You should put this in pack 3.

From a request from a Brazilian Friend I made Brazilian States Flags as Leaderheads. I am not expert, I did the best I could do :)

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/estadosbrasileiros1.zip
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/estadosbrasileiros2.zip

what you could have done is that you made bullet holes or something in the flags when they have been conquered.

First of all, sorry for the bump people :mischief:

There is a reason I would not do "been conquered" flags. See, flags are highly valued by many people and have pretty much a lot symbolism in them. If I were to make flag gfx with bullet holes on them, it might cause a huge uproar against my work.

Besides, I would never put bullet holes or anything similar to the Turkish flag myself :P

what you could have done is that you made bullet holes or something in the flags when they have been conquered.

I was wondering if you'd consider creating a flag leaderhead based on the regular Nazi flag featuring the swastika in the white circle. Something about the design's simplicity makes it stand out.

I got the flag to work during diplomacy as an flc file, but can you use it for other times when the leaderhead appears such as the foreign minister screen and such?

@nj21dude: I sure will, in the future. I don't have the time I used to have anymore.

@joeskip: same with your request; making the foreign minister screens is just a pain in the ass when doing flags at such massive amounts.

As I've said before, I will COMPLETELY update all these graphics in the near future with much better ones, as I have better technology graphics software, graphics tablet and more skill :)

I made some pcx files to use as leaderheads on the foreign minister screen from sprincrus' flags. I just used his civilopedia pcx's and scaled them down to the right size and copied it over twelve times. I made these for my own use and there are only 19 of them but I thought I'd share them. Maybe I can do more if someone wants... You should get Sprincrus' actual flags flc files first ;)

List of Flags PCX's I did:

1)Belgium
2)Bulgaria
3)Czech Republic
4)Denmark
5)Netherlands 16th Century
6)Finland
7)France
8)Greece
9)Hungary
10)Ireland
11)Norway
12)Ottoman Empire
13)Poland
14)Portugal
15)Romania
16)Spain
17)Sweeden
18)Switzerland
19)USSR/CCCP

Edit: let me know if you need winrar to get the files. If so I can post a link to get it free.

Thank you joeskip, I really appreciate that :) Maybe in the future, when I make new flags or update the ones I already have, you can help me do these? It's not because I'm lazy, but because making them, converting them, scaling them, decreasing the pallettes, fixing transparency issues, saving under different names and formats, over, over, over and over again is just a huge pain in the ass, especially when you do so many flags at once.

That's why I never find the willpower to do the rest of the job (simply advisor graphics).

Thanks again joeskip!

Sprincrus, I made advisor pcx files for all the flags in your 1.5 pack.
Maybe you could update the download links on the first post to include them.
I might do the 2nd and 3rd pack in a while, but i'm going out of town tommorow. Hope you like these