OK, so I decided to post the leaderhead pack that originally went with my flags at foreign advisor screen. This is basically a set of four static leaderheads for each covered civilization, every of which depicts a prominent figure of the appropriate age - for example, Rome/Italy has Caesar as ancient, Lorenzo Medici (il Magnifico) as medieval, Giuseppe Garibaldi (alternative Victor Emmanuel II or Mussolini) as industrial and Silvio Berlusconi (alternative De Gasperi) as modern. The civs covered are as follows:

America
Greece
Incas/Chilie
Germany
Russia
Rome/Italy
Egypt
Israel
India
Babylon/Iraq
Iroquois/Canada
France
Poland
England
Aztecs/Mexico
China
Scotland
Japan
Netherlands
Arabia
Celts/Ireland
Carthage/Tunisia
Spain
Turkey
Scandinavia (Sweden)
Mongolia
Korea
Mughal Empire/Afghanistan/Pakistan (a tricky one)
Nubia/Ethiopia
Zululand/Transvaal/South Africa

These pictures are only for diplomacy screen (as my flags are supposed to be used for foreign advisor in conjunction with that). Please also note, that I tried very hard to keep all the pictures from a single era in a semi-similiar style (don't really know how good I've managed)... If asked, I could post the exact names and prolly short infos on depicted folks. Not really making a preview as the mod is 127 separate pics (some nations have alternative leaderheads for some ages).

Ancient and medieval (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/leader1.zip)
Industrial and modern (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/leader2.zip)

P.S. Not all the leaderheads are of my made (about 10-15 of them are not). If you happen to stumble upon a head whose author you know, please inform me, and I shall make proper credit (or redo the head for myself if the author would deny me its usage).

Extra leaderheads:
Victor Emmanuel II, Mussolini, Friedrich Barbarossa and George I of Greece. (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/additional.zip)
Sequoyah, John Cabot, Walter Raleigh and Eamon de Valera (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/extras.zip)

Alternative modern leaders for Turkey and Italy are as attachments in the posts below.

For Italy:

On industrial era use Cavour, the Prime Minister of Sardinia (and Italy) kingdom; Garibaldi was not a politician but a general. 4 modern era, if you use only actual leaders ok, but if they must be the most importants use Alcide de Gasperi, first President of Council on Italian Republic and founder father of UE.

Thanx - I don't necessarily use contemporary leaders for modern age, and I'll produce an alternative sometime soon. As for Garibaldi, I just thought him easily recognizable (sort of trademark). I also had an idea to make Mussolini industrial (he fits in quite well), and this I'll probably do too. Fell free to comment on the others as well, especially if you find pics for replacements (some of the leaders are there simply because no better opportunity was available). For everyone's convinience I'm posting a list depicting who is who.

1) Russia
1 - Alexander Nevski/Ivan the Terrible
2 - Peter the Great
3 - Vladimir Lenin
4 - Vladimir Putin

2) America
1 - Christopher Columbus
2 - George Washington
3 - Abraham Lincoln
4 - George Bush Jr

3) Germany
1 - Heinrich der Vogler
2 - Friedrich der Grosse
3 - Bismarck
4 - Helmut Kohl

4) England
1 - William the Conqueror
2 - Elizabeth/Henry VII
3 - Winston Churchill
4 - Tony Blair

5) France
1 - Charlemagne (OK, not only France but still...)
2 - Louis XIV
3 - Charles DeGaulle
4 - Jacques Chirac

6) Poland
1 - Vitautas
2 - Kazimier
3 - Vojceh Pilsudski
4 - Lech Walesa

7) Scandinavia
1 - Canute (the true king of ALL Scandinavia)
2 - Karl XII
3 - Oscar II
4 - Carl XVI Gustav

8) Scotland
1 - Robert Bruce
2 - Bonnie Prince Charlie
3 - Andrew Carnegie (for the sake of obvious leader lack in the age)
4 - Neil MacCormick (nationalist leader)

9) Celts
1 - Arthur
2 - Hugh O'Neill
3 - Arthur Griffith (founder of Sinn Fein or something)
4 - Bertie Ahern

10) Korea
1 - anonymous deity ("Guardian")
2 - Sejong
3 - Syngman Rhee
4 - Kim Il Sung

11) Japan
1 - Jinmu Tenno
2 - Tokugawa Iyeasu
3 - Showa Hirohito
4 - Junichiro Koizumi

12) China
1 - Yui Xia (or how is he spelled)
2 - Hong Wu Ming
3 - Mao Tse Tung
4 - Jiang Zeming

13) Aztecs
1 - Montezuma
2 - Juan Cortez (a bit ironic, but...)
3 - Pancho Villa
4 - Fidel Castro (as Aztecs represent all Central America)

14) Incas
1 - Atahualpa
2 - Simon Bolivar
3 - Che Gevara (both for the reasons of South American location)
4 - Augusto Pinochet

15) Ethiopia
1 - Taharqua
2 - Ezana (not quite Ethiopia, would be great if someone finds adequate change)
3 - Haile Selassie
4 - Negaso Gidada

16) Iroquios
1 - Hiawatha
2 - Sitting Bull
3 - John A. MacDonald (turning into Canada)
4 - Jean Chretien

17) Spain
1 - Fernando I
2 - Isabella
3 - Francisco Franco
4 - Juan Carlos

18) Mughals
1 - Babur
2 - Akbar
3 - Muhammed Nadir Khan (Afghanistan)
4 - Pervez Musharaf (Pakistan)

19) Ottomans
1 - Osman
2 - Mehmed II
3 - Kemal Ataturk
4 - Mesut Yilmaz

20) Greece
1 - Iskander/Pericles
2 - Justinian (Byzantium)
3 - Alessandros Papagos
4 - Constantinos Simitis

21) Carthage
1 - Hannibal
2 - Khayr al-Din Barbarossa (pirates of Tunisia)
3 - Habib Bourgiba
4 - Zein Al-Abidin Ben Ali

22) India
1 - Asoka (don't ask, no better pic I've found)
2 - Duleep Singh (don't know who the guy was, but he fits in well)
3 - Mahatma Ghandi
4 - Indira Ghandi

23) Arabs
1 - Abu Bakr
2 - Harun Ar-Rashid
3 - Sharif Hussein Ben Ali
4 - Fahd

24) Mongols
1 - Temujin
2 - Tamerlane/Kublai Khan
3 - Suhbaatar
4 - Tsedenbal

25) Babylon
1 - Hammurabi
2 - Fath Ali Shs Qajar
3 - anonymous Jordan prince
4 - Saddam Hussein

26) Egypt
1 - Ramsess
2 - Saladin
3 - Fouad I
4 - Hosni Mubarak/Gamal Abdel Nasser

27) Rome
1 - Julius Caesar
2 - Lorenzo di Medici
3 - Giuseppe Garibaldi
4 - Silvio Berlusconi

28) Zululand
1 - Shaka
2 - Alfonso I (actually not zulu and prior to Shaka... Oh well)
3 - Paul Kruger
4 - Nelson Mandela

29) Israel
1 - David
2 - Herod
3 - Golda Meir/Theodor Herzl
4 - Ariel Sharon

30) Netherlands
1 - Hlothar (as no Netherlands existed then, Kingdom of Lotharingia somehow fits)
2 - Willem of Oranje
3 - Wilhelmina
4 - Beatrix

I think that industrial is only 1800 and modern 1900, no?

1) Russia
1 - Alexander Nevski/Ivan the Terrible
2 - Peter the Great
3 - Vladimir Lenin
4 - Vladimir Putin -> Michael Gorbachev or Stalin

2) America
1 - Christopher Columbus -> No, it was italian.
2 - George Washington
3 - Abraham Lincoln
4 - George Bush Jr -> F.D. Roosvelt

3) Germany
1 - Heinrich der Vogler
2 - Friedrich der Grosse -> Friedrich I (Barbarossa)
3 - Bismarck
4 - Helmut Kohl -> Konrad Adeneuer

4) England
1 - William the Conqueror
2 - Elizabeth/Henry VII
3 - Winston Churchill -> Queen Victoria
4 - Tony Blair -> Churchill

5) France
1 - Charlemagne (OK, not only France but still...)
2 - Louis XIV
3 - Charles DeGaulle -> Napoleon I or III
4 - Jacques Chirac -> DeGaulle (as president)

20) Greece
1 - Iskander/Pericles
2 - Justinian (Byzantium)
3 - Alessandros Papagos -> king George I
4 - Constantinos Simitis

21) Carthage
1 - Hannibal
2 - Khayr al-Din Barbarossa (pirates of Tunisia)
3 - Habib Bourgiba
4 - Zein Al-Abidin Ben Ali -> Gheddaffi ?


23) Arabs
1 - Abu Bakr
2 - Harun Ar-Rashid
3 - Sharif Hussein Ben Ali
4 - Fahd -> Komehini?


25) Babylon
1 - Hammurabi
2 - Fath Ali Shs Qajar
3 - anonymous Jordan prince
4 - Saddam Hussein

26) Egypt
1 - Ramsess
2 - Saladin
3 - Fouad I
4 - Hosni Mubarak/Gamal Abdel Nasser

27) Rome
1 - Julius Caesar
2 - Lorenzo di Medici
3 - Giuseppe Garibaldi -> Cavour or king Vittorio Emanuele II
4 - Silvio Berlusconi :eek: -> Alcide de Gasperi or Benito


29) Israel
1 - David
2 - Herod
3 - Theodor Herzl
4 - Ariel Sharon -> Golda Meir

Originally posted by Walter Hawkwood
As for Garibaldi, I just thought him easily recognizable (sort of trademark).

Garibaldi is one of the most famous italiam modern heros. I use it as military advisor on my scenario.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/garibaldiadv.jpg

I tend to count the industrial age from 1850 to 1950. As it really was - we can't speak of industrialization prior to 1850 (at least, not in England), as well as we can't speak of post-industrial society before WWII. The Civ tech tree reflects it too.

Gorbachev was a leader of a state already dead, so it doesn't feel well modern somehow. Adeneuer too.

Papagos and his junta were in power in Greece up to WWII, so I kind of think he fits fine, but I could make an alternative. Ghedaffi is very good idea, and I think he goes in. Komehini can be used for Persia-Iran if I'm making one. Vittorio Emmanuele II sounds fine. I'm on it.

And lo, I up and did the leaders requested upon me!

Here are king Victor Emmanuel II of Italy, Benito Mussolini, Friedrich Barbarossa and king George I of Greece, all packed up and ready to go!

Download the extra request #1 (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/additional.zip)

I have added Gorbachev because he has modified modern russian history, he was the last CCCP president and he introduced the Perestroijka. Adenauer was the canchellor of West Germany and transformed nazi Germany on modern one, but also Khol is adeguated: riunification was important too.

Originally posted by Rufus T.Firefly
I think that industrial is only 1800 and modern 1900, no?

1) Russia
1 - Alexander Nevski/Ivan the Terrible
2 - Peter the Great
3 - Vladimir Lenin
4 - Vladimir Putin -> Michael Gorbachev or Stalin

2) America
1 - Christopher Columbus -> No, it was italian.
2 - George Washington
3 - Abraham Lincoln
4 - George Bush Jr -> F.D. Roosvelt

3) Germany
1 - Heinrich der Vogler
2 - Friedrich der Grosse -> Friedrich I (Barbarossa)
3 - Bismarck
4 - Helmut Kohl -> Konrad Adeneuer

4) England
1 - William the Conqueror
2 - Elizabeth/Henry VII
3 - Winston Churchill -> Queen Victoria
4 - Tony Blair -> Churchill

5) France
1 - Charlemagne (OK, not only France but still...)
2 - Louis XIV
3 - Charles DeGaulle -> Napoleon I or III
4 - Jacques Chirac -> DeGaulle (as president)

20) Greece
1 - Iskander/Pericles
2 - Justinian (Byzantium)
3 - Alessandros Papagos -> king George I
4 - Constantinos Simitis

21) Carthage
1 - Hannibal
2 - Khayr al-Din Barbarossa (pirates of Tunisia)
3 - Habib Bourgiba
4 - Zein Al-Abidin Ben Ali -> Gheddaffi ?


23) Arabs
1 - Abu Bakr
2 - Harun Ar-Rashid
3 - Sharif Hussein Ben Ali
4 - Fahd -> Komehini?


25) Babylon
1 - Hammurabi
2 - Fath Ali Shs Qajar
3 - anonymous Jordan prince
4 - Saddam Hussein

26) Egypt
1 - Ramsess
2 - Saladin
3 - Fouad I
4 - Hosni Mubarak/Gamal Abdel Nasser

27) Rome
1 - Julius Caesar
2 - Lorenzo di Medici
3 - Giuseppe Garibaldi -> Cavour or king Vittorio Emanuele II
4 - Silvio Berlusconi :eek: -> Alcide de Gasperi or Benito


29) Israel
1 - David
2 - Herod
3 - Theodor Herzl
4 - Ariel Sharon -> Golda Meir

I think for the modern age, Gasperi is a better choice.

For the Ottomans, however, Mesut Yilmaz shouldn't be the new one. He's now facing criminal charges and all, as he was only the prime minister for a short period of time. I think Turgut Ozal (passed away in 93) would be better.

You can always go with Suleyman Demirel, too... But dunno, he's not that "great" of a leader; he's been around for a very long time and is still alive but not in active politics.

Originally posted by SpincruS


I think for the modern age, Gasperi is a better choice.

For the Ottomans, however, Mesut Yilmaz shouldn't be the new one. He's now facing criminal charges and all, as he was only the prime minister for a short period of time. I think Turgut Ozal (passed away in 93) would be better.

You can always go with Suleyman Demirel, too... But dunno, he's not that "great" of a leader; he's been around for a very long time and is still alive but not in active politics.

Unfortunately, there are only B&W shots of Gasperi on the net. He doesn't fit in stylistically. As for Ozal, I've made him, but I keep wondering, what is the flag behind his back... Yilmaz, bad as he can be, is stylish, and that's why I keep him (after all, in YOUR Turkey, he could be the most noble person in the world). Anyways, here's Ozal.

1) Russia
1 - Alexander Nevski/Ivan the Terrible
2 - Peter the Great
3 - Vladimir Lenin
4 - Vladimir Putin

2) America
1 - Christopher Columbus
2 - George Washington
3 - Abraham Lincoln
4 - George Bush Jr

3) Germany
1 - Heinrich der Vogler
2 - Friedrich der Grosse
3 - Bismarck
4 - Helmut Kohl

4) England
1 - William the Conqueror
2 - Elizabeth/Henry VII
3 - Winston Churchill
4 - Tony Blair

5) France
1 - Charlemagne (OK, not only France but still...)
2 - Louis XIV
3 - Charles DeGaulle
4 - Jacques Chirac

6) Poland
1 - Vitautas
2 - Kazimier
3 - Vojceh Pilsudski
4 - Lech Walesa

7) Scandinavia
1 - Canute (the true king of ALL Scandinavia)
2 - Karl XII
3 - Oscar II
4 - Carl XVI Gustav

8) Scotland
1 - Robert Bruce
2 - Bonnie Prince Charlie
3 - Andrew Carnegie (for the sake of obvious leader lack in the age)
4 - Neil MacCormick (nationalist leader)

9) Celts
1 - Arthur
2 - Hugh O'Neill
3 - Arthur Griffith (founder of Sinn Fein or something)
4 - Bertie Ahern

10) Korea
1 - anonymous deity ("Guardian")
2 - Sejong
3 - Syngman Rhee
4 - Kim Il Sung

11) Japan
1 - Jinmu Tenno
2 - Tokugawa Iyeasu
3 - Showa Hirohito
4 - Junichiro Koizumi

12) China
1 - Yui Xia (or how is he spelled)
2 - Hong Wu Ming
3 - Mao Tse Tung
4 - Jiang Zeming

13) Aztecs
1 - Montezuma
2 - Juan Cortez (a bit ironic, but...)
3 - Pancho Villa
4 - Fidel Castro (as Aztecs represent all Central America)

14) Incas
1 - Atahualpa
2 - Simon Bolivar
3 - Che Gevara (both for the reasons of South American location)
4 - Augusto Pinochet

15) Ethiopia
1 - Taharqua
2 - Ezana (not quite Ethiopia, would be great if someone finds adequate change)
3 - Haile Selassie
4 - Negaso Gidada

16) Iroquios
1 - Hiawatha
2 - Sitting Bull
3 - John A. MacDonald (turning into Canada)
4 - Jean Chretien

17) Spain
1 - Fernando I
2 - Isabella
3 - Francisco Franco
4 - Juan Carlos

18) Mughals
1 - Babur
2 - Akbar
3 - Muhammed Nadir Khan (Afghanistan)
4 - Pervez Musharaf (Pakistan)

19) Ottomans
1 - Osman
2 - Mehmed II
3 - Kemal Ataturk
4 - Mesut Yilmaz

20) Greece
1 - Iskander/Pericles
2 - Justinian (Byzantium)
3 - Alessandros Papagos
4 - Constantinos Simitis

21) Carthage
1 - Hannibal
2 - Khayr al-Din Barbarossa (pirates of Tunisia)
3 - Habib Bourgiba
4 - Zein Al-Abidin Ben Ali

22) India
1 - Asoka (don't ask, no better pic I've found)
2 - Duleep Singh (don't know who the guy was, but he fits in well)
3 - Mahatma Ghandi
4 - Indira Ghandi

23) Arabs
1 - Abu Bakr
2 - Harun Ar-Rashid
3 - Sharif Hussein Ben Ali
4 - Fahd

24) Mongols
1 - Temujin
2 - Tamerlane/Kublai Khan
3 - Suhbaatar
4 - Tsedenbal

25) Babylon
1 - Hammurabi
2 - Fath Ali Shs Qajar
3 - anonymous Jordan prince
4 - Saddam Hussein

26) Egypt
1 - Ramsess
2 - Saladin
3 - Fouad I
4 - Hosni Mubarak/Gamal Abdel Nasser

27) Rome
1 - Julius Caesar
2 - Lorenzo di Medici
3 - Giuseppe Garibaldi
4 - Silvio Berlusconi

28) Zululand
1 - Shaka
2 - Alfonso I (actually not zulu and prior to Shaka... Oh well)
3 - Paul Kruger
4 - Nelson Mandela

29) Israel
1 - David
2 - Herod
3 - Golda Meir/Theodor Herzl
4 - Ariel Sharon

30) Netherlands
1 - Hlothar (as no Netherlands existed then, Kingdom of Lotharingia somehow fits)
2 - Willem of Oranje
3 - Wilhelmina
4 - Beatrix

Christopher Colombus was not American, he was an Italian working for the Spanish. He shouldn't even be a leader, he ended up leading to the genocide of thousands and thousands of Native Americans, hell he didn't even discover the Americas. I think a better leader than him would be John Smith

As for the Celts.. I think you should include Eamon de Valera (leader of Irish independence and first president of Ireland) and Brian Boru (Irish leader in middle ages).

Sitting Bull should not be a leader of the Iroquois because the Lakota (the tribe which Sitting Bull was from) is not of Iroquois stalk. I would replace him with Sequoyah who was a great Cherokee leader and yes, the Cherokee were of Iroquois stock although they were more diverse and rather a farther relation to such stock.

For the Ethiopians queen Zweditu would be a better change for the person you have down.

Well there is some help, I'm gonna download a lot of these. Later.

Originally posted by Walter Hawkwood


Unfortunately, there are only B&W shots of Gasperi on the net. He doesn't fit in stylistically. As for Ozal, I've made him, but I keep wondering, what is the flag behind his back... Yilmaz, bad as he can be, is stylish, and that's why I keep him (after all, in YOUR Turkey, he could be the most noble person in the world). Anyways, here's Ozal. I have to admit on the stylishness :) However, I'm trying to be objective here. As more of his *dirty* work is being uncovered, it puts him in a lower position. Well, Ozal wasn't that clean after all neither.

Thanks for the file, though. It looks good.

As for the flag behind him, it's just the Presidential Turkish flag...

http://flagspot.net/images/t/tr_pres.gif.

The stars represent all the 16 Turkish states that have been formed through history, with the sun in the middle representing Turkey. More info (if you like) is to be found here:

http://flagspot.net/flags/tr_imp.html

Originally posted by Mobilize

Christopher Colombus was not American, he was an Italian working for the Spanish. He shouldn't even be a leader, he ended up leading to the genocide of thousands and thousands of Native Americans, hell he didn't even discover the Americas. I think a better leader than him would be John Smith

As for the Celts.. I think you should include Eamon de Valera (leader of Irish independence and first president of Ireland) and Brian Boru (Irish leader in middle ages).

Sitting Bull should not be a leader of the Iroquois because the Lakota (the tribe which Sitting Bull was from) is not of Iroquois stalk. I would replace him with Sequoyah who was a great Cherokee leader and yes, the Cherokee were of Iroquois stock although they were more diverse and rather a farther relation to such stock.

For the Ethiopians queen Zweditu would be a better change for the person you have down.

Well there is some help, I'm gonna download a lot of these. Later.

John Smith is all-too-medieval to be ancient to my taste, though I made even two options for those allergic to Columbus (and yes, I see he is a poor fit, but I do think none fots better - there is actually no ancient America (USA) civ, and as such, no leader) - John Cabot and Walter Raleigh. THough the first is still Italian, none of them worked for Spain and led a single genocide in their life :D

I made Sequoyah for you too, though he looks like Bilbo Baggins somehow...

Eamon de Valera is all right, and he is made too.

As for the queen of Ethiopia and the king of all celts, I just can't find a pic of them I like on the net.

Download the extras (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/extras.zip)

Columbus haven't killed any native american: he thinked that America was India and he come on America only 3 times. Remember that he died extremely poor. Have you ever know Cortes?

Originally posted by Rufus T.Firefly
Columbus haven't killed any native american: he thinked that America was India and he come on America only 3 times. Remember that he died extremely poor. Have you ever know Cortes?

Not only poor, but also imprisoned, I think. Wasn't he brought in chains from his last journey? Anyway, the killing indians thing is what modern cinematograph ("Conquest of paradise") tells us.

As for Cortez, I keep him mostly not as a conquistador, but because:
a) For some time he's been treated by the Aztecs as their king and deity.
b) He founded Mexico.

Oh, and both are largely AFAIR.

This is a color photo of De Gasperi, you can remake it

Photo (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/degasperi.zip)

Due to the poor quality of the photo, I didn't actually think something good could be made, but I actually managed to get the old man in quite a shape.

A pity he died in 1954 (not many color photos around those days), and as such might be more attributed with the industrial age. On the other hand, he is post-Mussolini and all. Anyway, I like the guy.

Thanx - I don't necessarily use contemporary leaders for modern age, and I'll produce an alternative sometime soon. As for Garibaldi, I just thought him easily recognizable (sort of trademark). I also had an idea to make Mussolini industrial (he fits in quite well), and this I'll probably do too. Fell free to comment on the others as well, especially if you find pics for replacements (some of the leaders are there simply because no better opportunity was available). For everyone's convinience I'm posting a list depicting who is who.

1) Russia
1 - Ivan the Terrible
2 - Peter the Great
3 - Vladimir Lenin
4 - Stalin/Khrushev

2) America
1 - George Washington
2 - Thomas Jefferson
3 - Abraham Lincoln
4 - Franklin D. Roosevelt

3) Germany
1 - Heinrich der Vogler
2 - Friedrich der Grosse
3 - Bismarck
4 - Adolf Hitler (Although one of the most evil men ever, he did create WWII)

4) England
1 - William the Conqueror
2 - Alfred The Great
3 - Elizabeth I
4 - Winston Churchill

5) France
1 - Charlemagne (OK, not only France but still...)
2 - Louis XIV
3 - Napoleon
4 - DeGaulle

6) Poland
1 - Vitautas
2 - Kazimier
3 - Vojceh Pilsudski
4 - Lech Walesa

7) Scandinavia
1 - Canute (the true king of ALL Scandinavia)
2 - Karl XII
3 - Oscar II
4 - Carl XVI Gustav

8) Scotland
1 - Robert Bruce
2 - Bonnie Prince Charlie
3 - Andrew Carnegie (for the sake of obvious leader lack in the age)
4 - Neil MacCormick (nationalist leader)

9) Celts
1 - Arthur
2 - Hugh O'Neill
3 - Arthur Griffith (founder of Sinn Fein or something)
4 - Bertie Ahern

10) Korea
1 - anonymous deity ("Guardian")
2 - Sejong
3 - Syngman Rhee
4 - Kim Il Sung

11) Japan
1 - Jinmu Tenno
2 - Oda Nobunaga
3 - Tokugawa Iyeasu
4 - Showa Hirohito

12) China
1 - Yui Xia (or how is he spelled)
2 - Hong Wu Ming
3 - Mao Tse Tung
4 - Deng Xiaopeng

13) Aztecs
1 - Montezuma
2 - Juan Cortez (a bit ironic, but...)
3 - Pancho Villa
4 - Fidel Castro (as Aztecs represent all Central America)

14) Incas
1 - Atahualpa
2 - Simon Bolivar
3 - Che Gevara (both for the reasons of South American location)
4 - Augusto Pinochet

15) Ethiopia
1 - Taharqua
2 - Ezana (not quite Ethiopia, would be great if someone finds adequate change)
3 - Haile Selassie
4 - Negaso Gidada

16) Iroquios
1 - Hiawatha
2 - Sitting Bull
3 - John A. MacDonald (turning into Canada)
4 - Jean Chretien

17) Spain
1 - Fernando I
2 - Isabella
3 - Francisco Franco
4 - Juan Carlos

18) Mughals
1 - Babur
2 - Akbar
3 - Muhammed Nadir Khan (Afghanistan)
4 -

19) Ottomans
1 - Osman
2 - Mehmed II
3 - Kemal Ataturk
4 -

20) Greece
1 - Iskander/Pericles
2 - Alexander the Great
3 - Justinian (Byzantium)
4 -

21) Carthage
1 - Hannibal
2 - Khayr al-Din Barbarossa (pirates of Tunisia)
3 - Habib Bourgiba
4 -

22) India
1 - Asoka (don't ask, no better pic I've found)
2 - Duleep Singh (don't know who the guy was, but he fits in well)
3 - Mahatma Ghandi
4 - Indira Ghandi

23) Arabs
1 - Abu Bakr
2 - Harun Ar-Rashid
3 - Sharif Hussein Ben Ali
4 - Fahd

24) Mongols
1 - Temujin
2 - Kublai Khan
3 - Timurlane
4 - Suhbaatar

25) Babylon
1 - Hammurabi


26) Egypt
1 - Ramsess
2 - Saladin
3 - Fouad I
4 - Hosni Mubarak/Gamal Abdel Nasser

27) Rome
1 - Julius Caesar
2 - Marcus Aurelius
3 - Lorenzo di Medici
4 - Giuseppe Garibaldi\Musolini

28) Zululand
1 - Shaka
2 - Alfonso I (actually not zulu and prior to Shaka... Oh well)
3 - Paul Kruger
4 - Nelson Mandela

29) Israel
1 - David
2 - Herod
3 - Golda Meir/Theodor Herzl
4 - Ariel Sharon

30) Netherlands
1 - Hlothar (as no Netherlands existed then, Kingdom of Lotharingia somehow fits)
2 - Willem of Oranje
3 - Wilhelmina
4 - Beatrix

Why did you just put in current people when their entries aren't warranted.

Why did you just put in current people when their entries aren't warranted.

Do you mean that the current world leaders don't fit best for the fourth age? Well, my concept was that the end of the tech-tree upon reaching should give you something like modern world, and so all the leaders included in the fourth age are the world situation in 2003. If you don't like any of them, you can request any other leaderhead.

Modern age for Iroquois/Canada should certainly be Pierre Turdeau, easily the most recognizable Canadian leader (although Jean does stick in your mind :mischief: )

How about Soloman instead of David? They were both great leaders, but Soloman was more of a king while David was more of a general.

How about Soloman instead of David? They were both great leaders, but Soloman was more of a king while David was more of a general.

Here you are, though it wasn't too easy to find Solomon on the web (as a matter of fact, finding David was even harder).

Modern age for Iroquois/Canada should certainly be Pierre Turdeau, easily the most recognizable Canadian leader (although Jean does stick in your mind :mischief: )

Couldn't find this one's picture/photo. If you post one, I can make him.

Google is a good resource for quick research ;) (www.google.com) here are 3 pics of pierre trudeau, personally i like the top left :D
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/Ptrudeau.jpg http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/ptrudeau2.jpg
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/Trudeau-portrait.gif

My gosh! I've been following a misprint in the original post... :blush:
Anyway, here it is, ready to rumble...

Excellent! :D did you put the face through a filter thingy, it looks more "artistic" than the pic I posted? :goodjob:

Excellent! :D did you put the face through a filter thingy, it looks more "artistic" than the pic I posted? :goodjob:

Sure. I try to make all faces of one epoch look in the same style as the others. For modern age, I chose a photo (prefferably with national flag) put through one of Photoshop filters.

The civs covered are as follows:

America
Greece
Incas/Chilie
Germany
Russia
Rome/Italy
Egypt
Israel
India
Babylon/Iraq
Iroquois/Canada
France
Poland
England
Aztecs/Mexico
China
Scotland
Japan
Netherlands
Arabia
Celts/Ireland
Carthage/Tunisia
Spain
Turkey
Scandinavia (Sweden)
Mongolia
Korea
Mughal Empire/Afghanistan/Pakistan (a tricky one)
Nubia/Ethiopia
Zululand/Transvaal/South Africa

Alternative modern leaders for Turkey and Italy are as attachments in the posts below.

What did happen of Portugal??? :hmm:

What did happen of Portugal??? :hmm:

It was made before Conquests. If you wish, introduce your proposals for 4 Portugese leaders of appropriate eras (you may even provide pics), and I will make them in no time.

It was made before Conquests. If you wish, introduce your proposals for 4 Portugese leaders of appropriate eras (you may even provide pics), and I will make them in no time.

Ancient Times: Viriato or D.Afonso Henriques
Viriato
http://coloquio.com/famosos/viriato.jpg
D.Afonso Henriques
http://bigeye.com.sapo.pt/portugal/afhen.jpg
Med. Ages: Infante D. Henrique (Prince Henry)
http://www.pucrs.br/biblioteca/500_ridh.jpg
Industrial Age: Marquês de Pombal
http://www.cm-sjpesqueira.espigueiro.pt/imagens/fotos_visita_concelho/marques_pombal.jpg
Modern Age: (?) It's dificult at this point to say who!!!

Hi

Where did you get the Mughal civilization from?

Hi

Where did you get the Mughal civilization from?

Made it up of Persians. Thought that India could use two civs to represent muslim/hindu conflicts. A highly optional thing, but I liked it.