View Full Version : Armies of the World (Steph's mod, C3C version)
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:33 PM I've decided to start a new thread for the C3C version of my mod.
It will include in the first pages general info and screenshots.
Please be patient, it will take a while to upload everything, I'm just reserving post right now.
GI Dustin has made a very nice presentation of the game races, units, ressources, techs...
http://www.civ3files.com/Teasers/Steph/
I've decided to keep all the races, and to add a few. But warnings : some of them will be very similar.
Here are links to the PTW version. I will add C3C specific links as soon as I can. Note that the units zip should remain the same. Only the main files should change, and I will add specific zip for new units.
So if you already have the PTW version of my mod, you won't have to download everything.
Warning : requires Play the World)
Download the air units (22 Mb) (http://www.civfanatics.net/downloads/civ3/modpack/StephMod_Beta3_AirUnits.zip)
Download GSC units (American Conquest and Cossacks) (70 Mb) (http://www.civfanatics.net/downloads/civ3/modpack/StephMod_Beta3_GscUnits.zip)
Download the land units, part 1 (21 Mb) (http://www.civfanatics.net/downloads/civ3/modpack/StephMod_Beta3_LandUnits1.zip)
Download the land units, part 2 (37 Mb) (http://www.civfanatics.net/downloads/civ3/modpack/StephMod_Beta3_LandUnits2.zip)
Download the sea units (19 Mb) (http://www.civfanatics.net/downloads/civ3/modpack/StephMod_Beta3_SeaUnits.zip)
Download main files (7 Mb) (http://www.civfanatics.net/downloads/civ3/modpack/StephMod_Beta3_Main.zip)
Download additional files for Beta4 (98Mb) (http://www.civfanatics.net/~steph/Downloads/AOW/Steph_beta4.zip)
Link to patch (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1281248#post1281248)
Download Patch 1 for Beta 4(50 kb) (http://www.civfanatics.net/~steph/Downloads/AOW/StephM
od_Patch_4_1.zip)
New, C3C version
AoW version 0.1 (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_0_1.zip)
Note : In the screenshots, the units appear with the civ coloring of the showcased civ
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:33 PM Reserved for tech tree Era 1
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:33 PM Reserved for tech tree Era 2
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:34 PM Reserved for tech tree era 3
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:34 PM Reserved for tech tree, era 4
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:35 PM Screenshot showing the generic unit lines.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_generic.jpg
Unit lines are:
- Tribal Warrior, Warrior, Swordsman, Man at arm
- Spearman, Phalanx, Pikeman, Pikes
- hunter, archer, crossbowman, Arquebuse, Musketman, Musketeer, Fusillier, Rifleman, Infantry, Trooper, Modern Infantry, Advanced infantry.
- Grenadier, Guard, Engineer
- Machine Gun, AT infantry, Laser infantry
- Horseman, Horse archer, Mounted musket, hussar, dragoon, cavalry, motorized infantry, mechanized infantry
- chariot, heavy cavalry, knight, cavalier, cuirassier, tank, armor, heavy armor, modern armor, MBT
- Naval infantry, marine, modern marine
- paratrooper, airborne
- alpine trooper, mountain troop
- commando, special force
- militia, partisan, guerilla
- catapult, trebuchet, bombard, canon, howitzer, artillery
- horse artillery, motorized artillery, SPA, rocket artillery, grad, mortar
- Transport helicopter, attack helicopter
- boat, galley, cog, caravel, galleon, troop ship, landing craft, assault ship
- war galley, corvette, frigate, ship of the line, Ironclad, dreadnaught, battelship, modern battleship
- destroyer, modern destroyer, modern frigate, AA cruiser
- carrier, nuclear carrier
- submarine, attack submarine, ballistic submarine
- biplane, fighter, jet fighter, interceptor
- fighter bomber, jet fighter bomber
- bomber, jet bomber
- naval fighter, naval interceptor
- naval fighter bomber, naval jet fighter bomber
- stealth fighter bomber, stealth bomber
- flying bomb, cruise missile, tactical nuke, ICBM
-drone
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Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:35 PM Rome starts with Roman legions in the Ancient&Medieval Era. In the Renaissance & Imperialism, they have a mix of Venetian and Piemontese units. In Industrial and Modern, they have Italian units.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_Rome.jpg
Here are the Roman specific units (and between ( ) what they replace).
Mirmillon (tribal warrior), Legionary (warrior), Praetorian (Swordsman), Princeps (Spearman), Imperial Legionary (Phalanx), Scutatio (Pikeman), Genoese crossbowman (crossbowman), Venetian musketman (musketman), Moschetiere (Musketeer), Auxilia (horseman), Dragone (Dragoon), Lancia IZM (tank), M13 (armor), Ariete (MBT), Dardo (mech infantry), Separatist (guerilla), Paladin(SPA), MRLS (grad), Trireme (war galley), Fiat CR32(biplane), Fiat G50 (fighter), Fiat G55 (fighter bomber), Spaviero (bomber), F104 (Jet fighter), F16 (interceptor), Tornado (jet fighter bomber), Harrier (naval interceptor & naval jet fighter bomber)
They have the following additional units:
Hospitaliers
Siege quinquereme
They don't have the following units:
all the camel line
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:35 PM Egypt remains Egypt during the whole game, though it borrows some Ottomans and English units. Modern Egypt is initially equipped with Russian aircrafts / Tanks, and American for the most recent units.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_Egypt.jpg
Egypt replacement units :
Eastern Swordsman (swordsman), Ottoman man at arm (man at arm), Egyptian levy (spearman), Eastern Pikeman (pikeman), Muslim pikes (pike), Muslim archer (Crossbowman), Janissary (musket), Bachibouzouk (fusillier), Eastern infantry (infantry), War chariot (chariot), Ansar Warrior (heavy cavalry), Arabian knight (knight), Arab horseman (horseman), Matilda (armor), T55 (modern armor), M1A1 (MBT), Allied motorized infantry (motorized infantry), Eastern para (airborne), JSU 152 (SPA), Egyptian galley (galley), Arabian caravel (caravel), Egyptian war galley(war galley), dhow(corvette),Mig15 (jet fighter), F16 (interceptor),
F4 (jet fighter bomber)
Egypt has all the camel line
It doesn't have Arquebuse, Musketeer, Grenadier, Guard, Cavalier, Hussar, Dragoon, Cavalry, Paratrooper, Cog
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:36 PM Greece uses Byzantine units in the medieval era, and early Renaissance era.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_Greece.jpg
Greek replacement units:
hypaspist (warrior), Hoplite (phalanx), scutatio (pikeman), orthodox pike (pike), Toxotes (archer), Orthodox musketman (musketman), Cataphract (heavy cavalry), Jaseran (cavalier), companion (horse archer), crusader (armor), leopard 2 (MBT), M113 (mech infantry), Resistor (guerilla), Paladin (SPA), Apache (attack helicopter), trireme (war galley), galleasse (corvette), F16 (interceptor), corsair II (jet fighter bomber)
Greece doesnt have:
Knight, all the camel line
Warlord 101 Dec 20, 2003, 02:36 PM This (and DyP for Conquests) is the only thing I look forward to more then your Beta 4 of your mod. I can't wait!
Also, new races? Which civ could you possibly be adding now?
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:36 PM Babylon uses generic muslim units from Medieval to industrial. For the modern era, is represents Iraq and is equipped mainly with Russian stuff.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_Babylon.jpg
Babylonian replacement units:
Eastern swordsman (swordsman), Muslim man at arm (man at arm), Eastern spearman (spearman), Eastern pikeman (pikeman), muslim pikes (pikes), bowman (archer), muslim archer (crossbowman), Janissary (musketman), Eastern infantry (infantry), ansar warrior (heavy cavalry), arab horseman (horseman), sipahi (cavalry), matilda (tank), T55 (modern armor), T62 (MBT), Allied mot. inf. (mot. inf), BTR 80 (mech inf.), eastern para (airborne), JSU 152 (SPA), Hind (attack helicopter), arabian caravel (caravel), Mig15 (jet fighter), SU 25 (jet fighter bomber), Badger (jet bomber),
Babylon doesn't have:
Arquebuse, musketeer, fusillier, grenadier, guard, knights, cavaliers, hussar, dragoon, mameluk, mehari, paratrooper, cog
Additional unit for Babylon:
Hashishin, Camel rider, camel warrior
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:36 PM Germany remains German during the whole game. During Renaissance and Imperialism, it uses Prussian units.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_Germany.jpg
German replacement units:
European Sworsman (swordsman), Axeman (man at arm), Northern Spearman (spearman), Imperial musketman (musketman), Musketier (musketeer), Prussian rifleman (rifleman), German infantry (infantry), Axis trooper (trooper), Prussian Grenadier (grenadier), Axis Pioneer (Engineer), Machinegewehr (Machine gun), Panzerschreck (AT infantry), Horse axeman (heavy cavalry), Horse Musketier (mounted musketeer), Dragoner (Dragoon), Kavallerie (cavalry), A7V (tank),
Panzr IV (armor), Tigre II (heavy armor), Leopard 1 (modern armor), Leopard 2 (MBT), Panzergrenadier (mot. inf.), Marder (mech inf), Fallschirmjaeger (paratrooper), Komando (commando), Resistor (Guerilla), Wespe (mot. art.), PW42 (rocket art.), Paladin (SPA), MRLS (grad), Granatwerfer (mortar), UH1 (helicopter), PAH2 Tiger (attack helicopter), DKM Dreadnaught (dreadnaught), Bismark (battleship), Uboat (submarine), Fokker (biplane), FW190 (fighter), Stuka (fighter bomber), Condor (bomber), ME109 (naval fighter), ME110 (naval fighter bomber), Me262 (jet fighter), Eurofighter (interceptor), MBB Tornado (jet fighter bomber),
Germany doesn't have:
phalanx, Guard, camel lines
German specific units:
Teutonic knight
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:37 PM Russia is always Russia
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_Russia.jpg
Russian replacement units:
Northern spearman (spearman), Kopyonets (pikeman), Pykynory (pikes), Stryelets (musketman), mooshketyor (musketeer), Grenadyor (Grenadier), Russian tropper (trooper), Russian soldier modern infantry), Horse axeman (heavy cavalry), Vityaz (knight),
Spear Cossack (horseman), Sword cossack (horse archer), Mounted Mooshketyor (mounted musket), Gusar (hussar), Dragouny (dragoon), Cossack (cavalry), T26 (Tank), T34 (armor), JS3 (heavy armor), T55 (modern armor), BlackEagle (MBT), BMP (mech inf), Spetsnaz (special force), Northern para (airborne), Su122 (mot. art.), Katyusha (rocket art.), Patria (SPA), Rocket launcher (grad), hokum (attack helicopter), kirov (modern battleship), Kiev (nuclear carrier), Nanushka (modern frigate), Orlan (nuclear cruiser), Akula (attack submarine), Typhooon (ballistic submarine), Lavochkin LA7 (fighter), Sturmovick (fighter bomber), Tupolev SB2 (bomber), Mig 21 (jet fighter), Su27 (interceptor), Su25 (jet fighter bomber), Badger (jet bomber), Su 27 navay (naval interceptor), Su37 (naval jet figther bomber),
Units not available to Russia:
Phalanx, Cavaliers, Camel line,
Russian specific units:
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:37 PM China remains China during the whole game. However, in modern time it uses a lot fo Russian like planes and tank, and in industrial it also have some US equipment.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_China.jpg
Chinese replacement units:
Shang soldier (warrior), Chinese swordsman (swordman)
, Chin swordsman(man at arm), Asian spearman (spearman), Chinese pikeman (phalanx), Chine pikeman (pikeman and pikes), Asian archer (archer), Chu ko nu (crossbowman), Arquebusier (Arqebusier - musketman), Asian musketeer (msuketeer & fusillier), Asian infantry (infantry), Rider (knight), asian horse archer (horse archer), asian horse musket (dragoon), asian cavalry (cavalry), M5 stuart (armor), T55 (modern armor), T90 (MBT), BTR80 (mech inf.), Asian marines (modern marines), JSU152 (SPA), blackhawk (helicopter), Junk (galley), Tongkang (war galley), canon tongkang (corvette), Baode (frigate & ship of the line), P16 (fighter), P40c (fighter bomber), mig21 (jet fighter), su24 (interceptor), Su25 (jet fighter bomber), Badger (jet bomber), asian settler, asian worker, asian catapult (catapult), fire canon( canon)
Units not available to China:
Grenadier, Guard, cavaliers, hussar, cog, caravel, galleon,
Units specific to China:
warrior monk
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:37 PM America starts the game with Native American units. The switch to "European" units at the end of the Renaissance Era.
Ameria is the civilization with the more flavour units.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_America.jpg
American replacements units:
Brave (warrior), native swordman (swordman), tomahawk (man at arm), native spearmn (spearman), delaware (pikeman), huron archer (archer), Sioux archer (crossbowman), Iroquois shooter (arquebusier), INative musket (musketman), minuteman (musketeer), American fusillier (fusillier), Allied infantry (infantry), allied trooper (trooper), G.I.(modern infantry), Allied engineer (engineer), sioux brave(heavy cavalry), sioux horseman (horseman), mounted brave (horse archer), sioux mounted shooter (mounted musket), sioux horse archer (hussar), US dragoon (dragoon), american cavalry (cavalry), MkIV (tank), Sherman (armor), Pershing (heavy armor), M60 (modern armor), M1A2 (MBT), Us Mot. inf. (mot. inf.), M2 Bradley (mech. inf.), Allied marines (marines), US marines (modern marine), US airborne(airborne), Ranger (special force), Resistor (guerilla), M7 priest (mot. art.), Calliope (rocket art.), Paladin (SPA), MRLS (grad), Blackhawk (helo), apache longbow (attack helicopter), canoe (cog), USN battleship (battleship), US carrier (carrier), CVN carrier (nuclear carrier), Ticonderoga (modern frigate), Seawolf (attack submarine), Ohio (ballistic submarine), P38 (fighter), P51 (fighter bomber), B29 (bomber), Corsair (naval fighter), SBU Dauntless (naval fighter bomber), F5 (jet fighter), F15 (interceptor), F111 (jet fighter bomber), B52 (jet bomber), F14 (naval interceptor)
, F18 (naval jet fighter bomber)
Units unaivalable to America:
Phalanx, pikes, grenadier, guard, chariot, camel line, kinghts, cavalir, cuirassier, boat, galley, war galley, caravel, )
Units specific to America:
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:38 PM Japan remains Japan during the whole game. It has many flavour units
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_Japan.jpg
Japanese flavour units:
Bushi (swordsman), Foot samourai (man at arm), Asian spearman (spearman), Yari (phalanx), Ashigaru Yari (pikeman), Naginata (pikes), Asian archer (archer), Daikyu (crossbowman), Arquebusier (Arquebusier and Musketman), Asian musketeer (musketeer and fusillier), Meiji rifleman (rifleman), Asian infantry (infantry), Japanse trooper (trooper), mounted samourai (knight), kensai (cavaliers), asian horse archer (horse archer), asian horse musket (dragoon), asian cavalry (cavalry), khago (armor), Type 90 (MBT), Japanese marines (marines), asian catapult (catapult), fire canon (cannon), MRLS (grad), Granatwerfer (mortar), Cobra (attack helicopter), junk (galley), Tongkang (war galley), canon tongkang (corvette), Baode (frigate & ship of the line), IJN battleship (battleship), IJN carrier (carrier), Shiden (fighter), Anne (fighter bomber), G3M (bomber), zero (naval fighter), Tenzan (naval fighter bomber), F104 (jet fighter), F15 (interceptor), F4 (jet fighter bomber)
Units unavailable to Japan:
Grenadier, guard, heavy cavalry, hussar, camel line, cog, cravel
Units specific to Japan:
Ninja, warrior monk
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:38 PM France remains France during the whole game.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_France.jpg
French flavour units:
Gallic warrior (warrior), Frank warrior (swordsman), Western spearman (spearman), Piquier (pikes), Arquebuse (arquebusier), Mousquetaire du Roy (muksetman), Mousquetaire (musketeer), Infanterie de ligne (rifleman), Allied infantry (infantry), allied trooper (trooper), fantassin (modern infantry), Garde Impériale (Guard), Allied engineer (engineer), Dragon (mounted musket)
FT17 (tank), CharB1 (armor), ARL44 (modern armor), Leclerc (MBT)
Marsouin (modern marines), parachutiste (airborne), Legionaire (special force), Separatist (guerilla), chasseur alpin (mountain troop), MRLS (grad), Tigre HAC (attack helicopter), Nieuport (Biplane), Dewoitine 520 (fighter), MB152 (fighter bomber), Bloch 510 (bomber), SuperSabre (jet fighter), Rafale (Interceptor), Jaguar (jet fighter bomber), Rafale Marine (naval interceptor), F8 Crusader (naval jet fighter bomber)
Units not available to France:
Phalanx, Camel line
Units specific to France:
Templar
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:38 PM India remains India during the whole game.
I have few Indian flavour units... Units maker, to your 3D program!
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/AOW_India.jpg
Indian flavour units:
Indian Swordsman (swordsman), Indian spearman (spearman), Stone crossbow (crossbowman), Arquebuse, Sikh (infantry), Allied trooper (trooper), Indian soldier (modern infantry), rifle elephant (cavalry), crusader (armor), T55 (modern armor), Arjun (MBT), Allied mot. inf. (mot. inf.), BMP (mech. inf.), Asian catapult (catapult), fire canon (cannon), JSU152 (SPA), Mi24 (attack helicopter), Junk (galley), Tongkang (war galley), Canon Tongkang (corvette), Boade (frigate & ship of the line), VTOL carrier (nuclear carrier), Mig 21 (jet fighter), Mirage vajra (interceptor), Jaguar (jet fighter bomber), Harrier (naval interceptor), harrier (naval jet fighter bomber)
Units not available to India:
Man at arm, grenadier, guard, heavy cavalry, horse archer, camel line, hussar, dragoon, Cog, Caravel, Galleon
Units specific to India:
War elephant, Warrior monk
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:39 PM Reserved for Persia
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:39 PM Reserved for Aztecs
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:39 PM Reserved for Zululand
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:40 PM Reserved for England
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:40 PM Reserved for Mongols
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:40 PM Reserved for Spain
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:41 PM Reserved for Scandinavia
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:41 PM Reserved for Ottomans
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:41 PM Reserved for Celts
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:42 PM Reserved for Arabia
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:42 PM Reserved for Carthage
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:42 PM Reserved for Korea
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:42 PM Reserved for America
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:43 PM Reserved for Dutch
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:43 PM Reserved for Hittites
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:44 PM Reserved for Sumerians
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:44 PM Reserved for Byzance
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:44 PM Reserved for Maya
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:44 PM Reserved for Inca
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:45 PM Reserved for Portugal
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:45 PM Reserved for Poland
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:46 PM Reserved for Austria
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:46 PM Reserved for secret civ 1
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 02:46 PM Reserved for secret civ 2
Warlord 101 Dec 20, 2003, 02:53 PM Should I repeat my question because I think it may have gotten lost in the "Reservation" Posts? (I posted way too early I guess)
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 03:32 PM Originally posted by Warlord 101
Should I repeat my question because I think it may have gotten lost in the "Reservation" Posts? (I posted way too early I guess)
Yes you did. New civ are Austria and Poland.
Warlord 101 Dec 20, 2003, 03:44 PM And 2 secret civs? Hmm, this should be interesting. Any chance we can get a hint of whom they're going to be or have you not decided yet? Or don't give us a hint, your choice afterall.
Steph Dec 20, 2003, 03:51 PM The secret civs will be non historical civ, for people who want some different experience. They will be optional
Warlord 101 Dec 20, 2003, 04:00 PM None Historical, eh? Such as Fantasy or Futuristic?
Yoda Power Dec 20, 2003, 06:11 PM Steph the 31 limit still exists.
BTW I look forward to this version:)
Blue_Raven Dec 20, 2003, 06:49 PM yeah dont we all... your mod is bloody asome... but do you plan on making the last 2 ages tech bigger, they feal kind of small compared to the 2 first.........
Steph Dec 21, 2003, 01:13 AM Originally posted by Yoda Power
Steph the 31 limit still exists.
BTW I look forward to this version:)
Being optional, they will replace other civ in a special version of the mod.
Steph Dec 21, 2003, 01:18 AM Originally posted by Blue_Raven
yeah dont we all... your mod is bloody asome... but do you plan on making the last 2 ages tech bigger, they feal kind of small compared to the 2 first.........
Ancient & Medieval era : 57 techs
Renaissance & Imperialism : 55 techs
Industiral : 54 techs
Modern era : 61 techs.
I don't have the feeilng the 2 last era tech trees are so small.
R8XFT Dec 21, 2003, 02:14 AM Tch!! More downloading!! When will it ever end?!!? :lol:
Fantasic as ever. Thank you very much, Steph!! :goodjob:
Ville Dec 21, 2003, 02:42 AM I want it! I want it! I want it!
Great work as always:goodjob:
Steph Dec 22, 2003, 03:56 PM I've juste finished uploading the file for the beta 4 of the PTW version.
Ville Dec 23, 2003, 01:52 AM If animated avatars were allowed in CFC, I'd use that Santa:D
Again, thanks, this is the best mod now IMO.
:scan:Bug Report:scan:
File missing: art\tech chooser\icons\armortradition_sm.pcx
something like that, can't choose world, it crashes before that
Ville Dec 23, 2003, 02:44 AM Just making sure you see there are some new posts
:scan: Bug report :scan:
File missing: Art\tech chooser\Icons\Cybernetics_sm.pcx
probably also Cybernetics_lg.pcx
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Art\tech chooser\icons\FuelCells_sm.pcx
probably also FuelCells_lg.pcx
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Art\tech chooser\icons\globaleconomy_sm.pcx
large one too
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That's all at this point
Steph Dec 23, 2003, 03:50 AM Thanks. It's hard for me to check that everyfile is included, without resintalling the whole mod. Doing an incremental version, without including all the files, but only the most recent one, is a bit more error prone.
Link to patch added in the first post.
Blue_Raven Dec 23, 2003, 11:28 AM Originally posted by Steph
Ancient & Medieval era : 57 techs
Renaissance & Imperialism : 55 techs
Industiral : 54 techs
Modern era : 61 techs.
I don't have the feeilng the 2 last era tech trees are so small.
mabye its one of them eye triking your mind....... i putt some buggreports on beta 4 in the other thread.....
keep up the good work :goodjob:
Mobilize Dec 29, 2003, 01:52 AM Looks good, I can't wait until it is done. It would be awesome if you can make all units the size they would be if they were made by Firaxis because having a Dragoon being bigger than the Cavalry unit which came with the game is kind of odd especially when you have units of much similarity being different sizes. It looks horrid.
Another thing is.. why are you making the Americans start off as Native Americans? That is insane! It would be extremely hypocritical that they would represent the peoples who they almost wiped off the face of the Earth in one of the most widespread genocides of all time. Being that I am 100% Cherokee it offends me in some ways that the murderers of my people represent us. Do what Rise of Nations is doing in their expansion pack, making the Americans European-like in all ages.
Steph Dec 29, 2003, 02:31 AM Originally posted by Mobilize
Looks good, I can't wait until it is done. It would be awesome if you can make all units the size they would be if they were made by Firaxis because having a Dragoon being bigger than the Cavalry unit which came with the game is kind of odd especially when you have units of much similarity being different sizes. It looks horrid.
If i did something about size, I would increase the size of Firaxis units. My dragoon are scaled with infantry. Why should I make the dragoon same size as cavalry, and lose details, when the dragoon is the same size as infantry? For me, it's Firaxis unit which is different
Originally posted by Mobilize
Another thing is.. why are you making the Americans start off as Native Americans? That is insane! It would be extremely hypocritical that they would represent the peoples who they almost wiped off the face of the Earth in one of the most widespread genocides of all time. Being that I am 100% Cherokee it offends me in some ways that the murderers of my people represent us. Do what Rise of Nations is doing in their expansion pack, making the Americans European-like in all ages.
Civilization is seldom a game of peaceful evolution, but a game of war and conquest. I've chosen not to use "civilization", because some of them existed only for a short period of time and have disapeared (like the Aztecs, the Babylonians, etc), or didn't exist initially like the American.
Instead, I'm using "area of the world", with evolution. So Rome will become Italy, Greece will be Byzance then Greece again, Ottomans will become Turkey, Babylon Iraq, Aztecs will become Spanish colonist then Mexican, and Native American will indeed be wiped out and became USA.
So don't think "America" = USA, but "America" = "Native Americans", then USA. If you don't want to see the US, then be very good at the beginning of the world and conquer the wolrd with your native units...
Using Europeans nations to represent America in the early stage of the game is as insane as using Native Americans. Beside, what modern units should I have used for Iroquois?
Lachlan Dec 29, 2003, 06:18 AM i will have 1024 Kb/s DSL, downloading a piece of 100-150-200 Mo will aren't longer a problem for me :)
When you will propose a C3C version ?
Steph Jan 04, 2004, 03:58 PM I've uploaded the very first version (0.1) that should be conquest compliant.
To install it first install all the files of the PTW version if you heven't already, then move them in the conquest/scenario folder.
Download the c3c version (aow_0_1.zip), unzip it in conquest/scenario
this version doesn't use any new unit or feature, it simply add the correct pathes, and use new civilopedia icons for units.
If you don't have PTW, you need to download additional units, not included with c3c, and put them in c3ptw/extra/world war II folder
The Cossack Jan 05, 2004, 03:22 AM Hey Steph, I was just trying to install your MOD here and I ran into a few problems.
First of all, I followed your instructions by downloading and installing the PTW files into the conquest/scenario folder and then I installed the aow files into the same folder.
The first thing I noticed when I opened the MOD in the map editor was that the icons of some of the units were either blank or didn't correspond to the correct unit type. For example the Su 122 unit had the icon of a Nebulan frigate from Star Wars!
Anyway, I tried running the MOD and at about the 61% mark I get this error message: FILE NOT FOUND: "Art\tech chooser\icons\mapmaking-small.pcx"
What did I do wrong?
The Cossack Jan 05, 2004, 03:40 AM Ok well I figured out why I was getting that error message. For some reason I forgot to copy the files from the original techchooser folder. I still haven't figured out how to fix the problem with the mismatched or missing icons. I also noticed that the natural resources are missing icons as well. Again it could be because I forgot to copy somethign from one of the folders, but I was looking through all the folders and don't know where the icon file is saved.
Lachlan Jan 05, 2004, 05:07 AM Steph should make a self-extractor file
Steph Jan 12, 2004, 01:16 AM The next version will take some time, I'm in heavy planning phase.
Mobilize Jan 12, 2004, 10:50 PM Well, the Iroquois would become modernized. Take RoN for instance, they have Aztec modern weapons. I just dislike the fact of my people becoming the people who wiped 95% of us off the face of the Earth and then displacing us into small reservations in Oklahoma. Oklahoma is horrible, it's flat, and dull. The original Cherokee territory, un-flat and beautiful.
I don't mean to be a thorn in your ass, but you don't understand our hate of what the US, English, and Spanish did to us. Don't worry, you're French.. French people were nice to us, especially to the my tribe. :)
Sleepy Eyes Feb 21, 2004, 07:12 PM I like your work, it is truely great. Your certainly put a lot of thought into everything. I also look forward to playing your new verson coming out, sounds great.
Steph Feb 22, 2004, 05:32 AM Originally posted by Mobilize
Well, the Iroquois would become modernized. Take RoN for instance, they have Aztec modern weapons. I just dislike the fact of my people becoming the people who wiped 95% of us off the face of the Earth and then displacing us into small reservations in Oklahoma. Oklahoma is horrible, it's flat, and dull. The original Cherokee territory, un-flat and beautiful.
I don't mean to be a thorn in your ass, but you don't understand our hate of what the US, English, and Spanish did to us. Don't worry, you're French.. French people were nice to us, especially to the my tribe. :)
Yes, French people are very nice ;).
But if you want a real iroquois or cherokee civ, it's simple. Make me new units! I don't make unit myself, but use existing ones/ So without modern native units, my only choice is to use american ones
Sleepy Eyes Feb 25, 2004, 02:01 PM I have the same problem with icons not matching icons even with the mods pcx32 sheet. Its taking sometime to figure what is what. Otherwise I have no troubles with it.
Rhye Feb 27, 2004, 04:01 AM Looks good. But what is that mech in the upper right of some civs?
Sleepy Eyes Feb 27, 2004, 12:57 PM I noticed the pcx 32 sheet for this mod is double wide (24 across) and when I go to add a unit to it to fill in a blank it throws some other icons off line for units off in the editor. WHen I use a standard or mega sheet 14 across the counting of the icons doesnt change when I add them in. So I am wondering why I have troubles with a wider sheet over a norrower longer pcx sheet when i comes to adding icons and #ing. Mabye I just have a different version of c3c or something...? :confused:
Sleepy Eyes Mar 10, 2004, 01:02 PM I finally got the icons matched........I had to use a converter to make pcx 32 icons from flc for the units that didnt have any. I have to say this mod is GREAT! The work to get the icons was worth it! Though I think the native american units should be seperate from america. Anyways I look forward to your next mod.:scan: ;)
Bobisback Mar 10, 2004, 03:33 PM Could you post your unit 32 icons.
Sleepy Eyes Mar 11, 2004, 07:23 PM I would have to post the 32 units icons and the steph mod main file which matches them (btw I had never tinkered with any other settings in the Mod cept for icons). Since I am a rookie on this site I have to figure out how to uplink it here...And where is the right place to post it?
There also seems to be missing two units I can not find the unit folder for the flc to make the Icon.
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_NavalFighterBomberJapanese
_air_Val
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_ModernInfantryFrance
_landInf_Peacekeeper
So I am wonder if I should switch the peacekeeper as the blue cask unit I had downloaded and I am not so sure what to do about the _air_Val unit yet. Any suggestions or am I missing something everyone else has.
As For details on the Icons
The Su35 and the German Musket have a green or tan background. However, I had succesfully found or made proper transperant icons for all the other units. Plus I made a new icon for the axis and allied commando and a couple others to try and help out. Ill post a link tonight and hopefully some of you will find it useful since it took me a few long hours to do.
Bobisback Mar 11, 2004, 08:25 PM Just put the .biq or .bix and the icons in a zip. Then at the bottom of the page their is a Upload File click that and get the file. hope that helps:)
btw just post it here.
Edit: I had those errors and posted them in the old thread but steph did not answer, I look Froward to trying the 32 unit icons.
here is my older post: I have found the .ini file but I have not found the folder, there is no folder.
btw the .ini file is in the units folder.
edit: I found out that it is the Tenzan, Naval Fighter Bomber for the Japanese and the folder name is suppose to be _air_Val but there is no folder by that name all there is is a .ini file. There is no animation files either.
Sleepy Eyes Mar 11, 2004, 08:50 PM Here is part one the pcx 32 for AOW put in the arts units directory in the steph scenerio folder. (Of course back up your originals if you want)
Sleepy Eyes Mar 11, 2004, 08:53 PM This one is to replace the steph scenerio edit file in order to match the icons. No other changes have been made to the setting other than icons.
(Ill make a new thread for these two downloads so it may be easier to find)
Bobisback Mar 11, 2004, 09:04 PM ok thanks:goodjob::)
Sleepy Eyes Mar 13, 2004, 01:13 PM Yeah, I am glad I could contribute something around here, I wanted to play this mod myself but I had to put a few hours into it first. But I figure the creator worked so hard to put it together its no sense to leave such a nice thing incomplete. I am playing this mod multiplayer now on a network so I am wondering if I could post temp patches (????) since it seems Steph is busy lately...
The civpedia art unit file for catapult needed a minor correction in taking away the underscore to match the pedia text. But so far after that so good. And I replaced the 2 missing units..:crazyeye:
Sword_Of_Geddon Mar 21, 2004, 11:16 PM Great mod Btw. Did you use all of Aaglos and Bebro's ship, knight and plane units in this mod, or is it just me?
Steph Mar 22, 2004, 12:41 AM Not all of them. I used many, but I'm to busy on other projects (including my job ;) ) and I have not been able to work on the mod for weeks. So the latest units are not in.
Sword_Of_Geddon Mar 22, 2004, 04:15 AM Is this mod finished or are you still working on it Steph?
Bobisback Mar 26, 2004, 08:29 AM The UH60blackhawk is a land unit that is immobile and can not airdrop so it is pointless.
Steph Mar 26, 2004, 11:17 AM The mod is functionnal, but not finished. It doesn't include the latest units released here. But I don't have time to work on it anymore for the moment.
Bobisback Mar 26, 2004, 01:27 PM but were you intending to use it as land unit or air unit? thats so I can fix it in my version.
Steph Mar 26, 2004, 03:22 PM It's supposed to be a "land" transport unit (in the editor, you have two other helicopters that should work OK)
Bobisback Mar 26, 2004, 07:11 PM ok cool:)
Bobisback Mar 27, 2004, 09:29 PM My frist Steph's mod game finished:) here are some screenshots. very fun mod Steph love it:goodjob:
Level: deimgod
Map type: world map
Civ: America
Game time: 19 hours
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/gamewon.jpg http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/gamewon2.jpg http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/gamewon3.jpg
Steph Apr 05, 2004, 04:21 AM With many thanks to GIDustin
http://www.civ3files.com/Teasers/Steph/
Eddiit Apr 19, 2004, 09:49 PM Steph....what folders do i put all these downloads in....im seriously confused where everyhting goes....
Steph Apr 20, 2004, 01:17 AM same as other scebarios. create a steph folder in your scenario folder, put all folders in it (same structure as other scenarios), and the biq file wher the others are.
Bobisback Apr 22, 2004, 10:16 AM spelling error the unit folder is _landInf_Parachutiste and needs to be _landInf_Peacekeeper
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/Image1.jpg
MSpencer1313 May 06, 2004, 05:39 PM Big bug. Missing the INI file for the Asian settler. Causes CTD about 3 mins into game.
And yes I installed correctly.
Steph May 07, 2004, 01:37 AM Asian settler is a unit coming from PTW and Conquest. So the ini should be included in the game install, not in my mod?
MSpencer1313 May 07, 2004, 06:22 AM It's looking for JapaneseSettler.ini.
I have PTW and C3C.
Bobisback May 07, 2004, 12:06 PM I had the same problem but I fixed it all you have to do is copy the PTW extras folder to the C3C folder.
wolfieberserker May 17, 2004, 10:57 PM i having been searching for a mod like this, and am glad i have found it, however, i cant get it to work :sad: . i have read all posts and, i believe put things in their proper places. could you possibly right up a general unzip path for files? :groucho:
i have included the error screen from C3C along with what must be the "missing" text from the pediaicons list in the text folder. ??? thanks for the help, this looks great and i cant wait to play it.
wolfieberserker May 18, 2004, 02:38 PM after many hours of experimenting i have gotten the C3C version to a point where it is just stuck looking for ANIMNAME_PRTO_ModernInfantryRussian. my previous post can be disregarded as i have figured out my issue there, but this one i cannot figure. the only entry i could find was for a ModernInfantry. how did those of you who have played this mod get around this?
privatehudson Aug 04, 2004, 05:23 AM Well...
Firstly may I say that this is a truly excellent mod and I love it to bits :goodjob:
However, in it's unfinished state it does need extensive changes done. So far I've only played Russia and America, so my comments will for now relate to those :)
The Badger Russian bomber cannot relocate it's base, meaning where they're built is where they stay. This obviously is just changed in the editor.
The Blackhawk problem above
The F5 fighter plane for the Americans can land on carriers, that might be intended I dunno, but since no other jet plane of the era it's in can....
In the modern aviation advance (I forget the name, but the one where the eurofighter and SU37 are in) has a problem with the Eurofighter small picture for the civilopedia. The SU37 naval plane cannot operate at all without modifying the text file in the unit's folder. Currently it has an extra = for each of the instructions, ie it says ==
I'll try another country soon to test theirs if you want :)
Not that I'm having a go at you, I know it's unfinished atm, but I figured it might help maybe? :confused:
Oh and I figure I must be dumb or something, because when I use this mod I can never get the different terrain in those screenshots :(
Steph Aug 04, 2004, 05:34 AM I'm not sure it will. I don't plan to work again on this mode, as I'm to busy with SSS.
But I may decide to make a "version 2.0", that could be quite different.
privatehudson Aug 04, 2004, 12:44 PM Oh ok :) [10 characters rubbish]vfnkbndfionbidfnbidnfibvndifnbidfnbibidfbi [/10 characters rubbish]
DemonMaster Aug 05, 2004, 11:34 AM First I have not downloaded everything yet, but I read about the races and in the unit list I saw that JAS39 Gripen can carry foot units ? If you like to know, the plane is actually smaller than the replaced J37 Viggen (yes J37 is called viggen, J35 is Draken), so I just wonder where the foot units are to be transported (in a container below). By the way since I also saw that the bombardment is quite high on the J37 viggen, it should be called AJ37 viggen since J37 viggen (or more correctly JA37 viggen) isn't a very good bomber.
Someone should do (not me, I mean an artist) the swedish stealthship (called smyge in swedish), it is a corvette class ship with stealth capability.
Steph Aug 05, 2004, 11:44 AM Haven't you read anything about Norse mythology? They have dwarves who can fit in a Grippen.
DemonMaster Aug 05, 2004, 12:14 PM It must be, did you know that we have a missile system called Bamse, Bamse is a bear that get strong with honey made by his grandmother. So be aware of the swedish bear.
sourboy Aug 08, 2004, 06:03 PM Any chance the tech trees will be posted soon? I noticed there are posts reserved for them...
Iron+Cross Sep 17, 2004, 08:36 AM Hey Sweet job & great work with the newgame "stephs great project" :eek:
looks amazing just dont forget the diplomatic overhaul :goodjob:
ok well guys i downloaded this a few weeks ago & tryed & tryed to figure oiut how to install it & gave up well im BACK :scan:
can some one PLEASE Tell me How in hell am i suposed to install this?!?!?!?
isent there a self extracting zip like the other mods? :sad:
if not what should i do with each folder? apart from extract them all to my Scenarios folder & make a huge mess?
ive looked & looked over this forum & cant find one thread/post saying how i am exsactly ment to install this cool looking mod! :mad: not evrye one has an IQ of 120 u know :(
PresidentMarcos Sep 17, 2004, 06:23 PM Actually, I think you should have feautured Chinese equipment--i.e. their own unique jet fighters and tanks and such. Although they were based on captured or purchased Soviet equipment, they were still their own thing and in some cases were superior to the original.
Sword_Of_Geddon Sep 17, 2004, 06:54 PM Haven't you read anything about Norse mythology? They have dwarves who can fit in a Grippen.
Dwarfs orginate in Norse mythology, just as Elves orginate in Celtic mythology.... :goodjob:
Steph Sep 18, 2004, 12:19 AM Actually, I think you should have feautured Chinese equipment--i.e. their own unique jet fighters and tanks and such. Although they were based on captured or purchased Soviet equipment, they were still their own thing and in some cases were superior to the original.
I think I would have if a unit creator would had.
Iron+Cross Sep 18, 2004, 03:59 AM hey ive seen ignorance in my time but this beats it....guys im asking for some help i cant understand how to install this thing i know roughly how its suposed to be done but i keep bugering it up HELP some info.
ive tried "extract to" thing in the folder i named steph's mod & it just dosent work write.
Steph Sep 18, 2004, 08:13 AM Unzipped the different folders in a Steph folder(compare with the existing structure, you should have the same, ie : arts\units, etc, but inside the Steph folder.
So you will have for instance Steph\arts\units.
Normally, everything should be in the correct folder then
It should look like that
Lachlan Sep 18, 2004, 02:57 PM What do i need to download for have the entire mod in his C3C version ?
Have a single file who reunite all needed files ?
Because i want taste your flavor mod :)
Do you remember of me ?
Steph Sep 18, 2004, 04:38 PM There is no single file, you should download all the different zip in the first post
Admiral Armada Sep 24, 2004, 09:55 PM I have downloaded it and unzipped to a folder i made, but it is all inside it in a jumble instead of being nice and neat. For example, when i click on my folder it says: air 1930's fighter, air albatros, etc. All the units dont go into one folder and all the everything else dosent either, how the heck do i make this work?
Steph Sep 25, 2004, 01:19 AM When you unzip, be sure you set the options to keep the subfolders
Also, I don't remember exactly as I have lost my saves, there are "unit packs", and they should be unzipped in the correct subfolder (ie arts/units). I'm not sure how I zipped them
Admiral Armada Sep 25, 2004, 10:00 AM thanks, ill have to try that later today.
Gosl Nov 08, 2004, 06:41 PM Hi Steph,
Me again, i need --> Download Patch 1 for Beta 4(50 kb) because the link -->
http://www.civfanatics.net/~steph/Downloads/AOW/StephM%3Cbr%20/%3Eod_Patch_4_1.zip
doesn´t work anymore, it is the only file i need, i have the rest.
Should you help me, please
Thanks, again
Gosl
Warlord 101 Apr 03, 2005, 05:15 AM I hate to post on something that hasn't been posted on in a long while (even though this was one of the most recent things before my last absence) but will this mod ever recieve further updating? It's just I thoroughly enjoyed the PTW experience with Steph's mod and I'm wondering if we'll ever see the Conquests version completed.
Iron+Cross Apr 04, 2005, 11:30 AM Great mod but i still couldent install its so complex.. guese you need a IQ of 120+ to install :sad:
bobmcclune Apr 06, 2005, 11:32 AM This looks great but I am having trouble getting it to work on C3C...any helpful hints...or updates? :blush:
Nesborn Apr 24, 2005, 12:09 PM When attempting to start a new game, I get a "/Art/Units/Russian Rifleman/Russian Rifleman.ini missing" error. Checked through all the downloadable zip files, and don't see the russian rifleman unit anywhere.
Also, the Patch 1 for Beta 4 link seems to be fubar'd.
NeverMind May 02, 2005, 12:57 PM Download Patch 1 for Beta 4(50 kb) link in the first post of the thread is corrupted.
Right link:
http://www.civfanatics.net/~steph/Downloads/AOW/StephMod_Patch_4_1.zip
ejsaunders May 23, 2005, 01:48 PM Hi guys
I've been playing Steph's mod since its beta3 PTW era, and have recently formatted my computer and had to re-download the files from this site.
I however found a problem - The units in the .biq didn't match up with the icons in the units32 file. Some were just blank tiles, others where completely off the wall - tanks as foot troops, boats as planes that sort of thing.
So I dug about a few odd cd's I'd backed some stuff up on and for some reason I had two zip files, one of the mod file itself and the other of a units32... Odd but I thought I'd try them and see if they worked. THEY DID! If anyone else is having this problem after downloading the mod again, I've posted the two files on my website just in case.
http://www.ellsweb.com/civ3/units32.zip
http://www.ellsweb.com/civ3/stephConq.zip
Hope that's of use to someone as it saved this fantatic mod for me, but, anyone else ever have this problem?
NeverMind May 24, 2005, 04:20 AM Yes, I had the same problem, and i think any newcomer to this mod did. It's a good idea to place the files here. :goodjob:
Just note: the files were made by Sleepy Eyes and also available in this thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=81563
edil Aug 03, 2007, 05:43 AM but is this mod autoistaller?...ops my bad anglosaxson sorry:crazyeye:
Steph Aug 03, 2007, 05:48 AM No autoinstaller.
Beside, it's an an old version, not supported any longer.
I'm currently working on a brand new version, which is in alpha stage (link to the alpha thread in my signature)
edil Aug 03, 2007, 10:52 AM thank you are my idol , i love cossacks and american conquest....very very tank :goodjob:
edil Aug 20, 2007, 04:53 AM when when can I to play?:)
wow in the your mod the units by Gex of European warfare napoleonica , big steph....GRAZIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!:goodjob:
Light-Giver Nov 21, 2007, 09:58 PM wow so many downloads!
Nice work
ill get started on this tomarrow right now i cant ( long story)
Steph Nov 22, 2007, 01:42 AM This mod is no longer supported. I suggest you try the alpha version of Steph's mod 2.
Link in my signature
T.A JONES Nov 22, 2007, 10:04 AM Steph please don't cut your 1st mod shot. MAny will want to play it if they know how good it is like I do.
It it full of techs and units and pedia entrys and unique strat like units costing population. Stephs mod 1 is complete and playable . I will provide what updates later today (theres one guy who made it Conquest adaptable on here since the original was for PtW)
Steph Nov 22, 2007, 10:11 AM I'm not saying I will remove it, I'm just saying it's not supported : I will not upgrade it or patch it.
It stays as it is. Except if someone else is willing to upgrade it.
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